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Can I use a Clackfactory Gumrot ESC key on my HHKB Pro 2?
« on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 19:36:16 »
Title say it also, also whats the best place get Topre keys that have could flush synergy with the HHKB Pro 2? Sorry for the noob questions. I'm new here.
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Re: Can I use a Clackfactory Gumrot ESC key on my HHKB Pro 2?
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 19:37:03 »
Gumrot is unfortunately limited to MX switch types for now. So no, it would not work with your HHKB.
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Re: Can I use a Clackfactory Gumrot ESC key on my HHKB Pro 2?
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 19:38:13 »
If it says topre, you can use it on HHKB

If it says MX, you can only use it on MX boards or CM Topre with Mx stem boards

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Re: Can I use a Clackfactory Gumrot ESC key on my HHKB Pro 2?
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 19:38:55 »
Gumrot is unfortunately limited to MX switch types for now. So no, it would not work with your HHKB.

Thanks for the quick reply. Any advice as to where to get some sweet Topre caps for this baby. Ahhh it's so smooth compare to my Leopold tenkeyless blue switches.
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Re: Can I use a Clackfactory Gumrot ESC key on my HHKB Pro 2?
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 19:40:46 »
If it says topre, you can use it on HHKB

If it says MX, you can only use it on MX boards or CM Topre with Mx stem boards

lol well yea... the thing is I don't even know where to get the Gumrot keys as of now anyway. Only place I ever saw them was Elitekeyboards but they are all sold out and the clackfactory website wasn't up last time I looked. Like I said I'm new here so excuse my ignorance in these matters please.
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Re: Can I use a Clackfactory Gumrot ESC key on my HHKB Pro 2?
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 19:42:13 »
Gumrot is unfortunately limited to MX switch types for now. So no, it would not work with your HHKB.

Thanks for the quick reply. Any advice as to where to get some sweet Topre caps for this baby. Ahhh it's so smooth compare to my Leopold tenkeyless blue switches.

Keep an eye out for sales from clackfactory in his 4grabs thread on his vendor forum.  Here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?board=78.0

Also recommend taking a look at the gas mask keycaps here: http://gasmaskkeycap.com/

Unfortunately these sell out rather quick, but i can tell you, Bro Caps is a huge fan of Topre and his v2 brobots are not far off from going on sale. I would highly recommend keeping an eye on his vendor forum as well.  Here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?board=145.0

The HHKB is indeed a god tier keyboard. Glad you're enjoying it.

Good luck with the hunt!

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Re: Can I use a Clackfactory Gumrot ESC key on my HHKB Pro 2?
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 19:43:21 »
If it says topre, you can use it on HHKB

If it says MX, you can only use it on MX boards or CM Topre with Mx stem boards

lol well yea... the thing is I don't even know where to get the Gumrot keys as of now anyway. Only place I ever saw them was Elitekeyboards but they are all sold out and the clackfactory website wasn't up last time I looked. Like I said I'm new here so excuse my ignorance in these matters please.

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Re: Can I use a Clackfactory Gumrot ESC key on my HHKB Pro 2?
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 19:43:50 »
I think the OP is under the impression that clacks are off-the-shelf items and are only unavailable because it's waiting for a restock shipment.
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Re: Can I use a Clackfactory Gumrot ESC key on my HHKB Pro 2?
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 19:44:40 »
I think the OP is under the impression that clacks are off-the-shelf items and are only unavailable because it's waiting for a restock shipment.

+1

this seems to be a popular thing with noobs
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Re: Can I use a Clackfactory Gumrot ESC key on my HHKB Pro 2?
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 19:46:39 »
I think the OP is under the impression that clacks are off-the-shelf items and are only unavailable because it's waiting for a restock shipment.

And next thing he's going to think is people will try to sell it to him at the price they payed for it.

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Re: Can I use a Clackfactory Gumrot ESC key on my HHKB Pro 2?
« Reply #10 on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 19:48:51 »
I think the OP is under the impression that clacks are off-the-shelf items and are only unavailable because it's waiting for a restock shipment.

+1

this seems to be a popular thing with noobs

I think the OP is under the impression that clacks are off-the-shelf items and are only unavailable because it's waiting for a restock shipment.

And next thing he's going to think is people will try to sell it to him at the price they payed for it.


Can we please just explain to him the way these things work instead of being so condescending and elitist towards our newer members?

Just be helpful, no need to be mean.

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Re: Can I use a Clackfactory Gumrot ESC key on my HHKB Pro 2?
« Reply #11 on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 19:55:58 »
I think the OP is under the impression that clacks are off-the-shelf items and are only unavailable because it's waiting for a restock shipment.

+1

this seems to be a popular thing with noobs

I think the OP is under the impression that clacks are off-the-shelf items and are only unavailable because it's waiting for a restock shipment.

And next thing he's going to think is people will try to sell it to him at the price they payed for it.


Can we please just explain to him the way these things work instead of being so condescending and elitist towards our newer members?

Just be helpful, no need to be mean.

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whoa calm down

i wasn't being elitist

I was just cracking a joke at how this CC goes for around $150+ on classifieds

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Re: Can I use a Clackfactory Gumrot ESC key on my HHKB Pro 2?
« Reply #12 on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 20:29:04 »
lol alright lets get some noob questions out of the way

you guys are right about me thinking its an off the shelf item (the gumrot) but since it doesn't work on topre switches then I guess why should I care as of now. So is it a user on here that makes them?

what/who is noobinator?

Is there a dip switch on this HHKB to make the "Command/meta" key do something? What does it even do? I thought that was kind of going to be the windows key. Is it possible to do that?

Thanks for your patience I'm sure I'll have the hang on this and how things work around here in no time! :thumb:

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Re: Can I use a Clackfactory Gumrot ESC key on my HHKB Pro 2?
« Reply #13 on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 20:32:48 »
It's a user here who makes them. Clickclack/clackfactory

Nubbinator is a user here as well. He makes keycaps, cables, and a few other things.

The meta key should be a windows key, but I'm not sure.
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Re: Can I use a Clackfactory Gumrot ESC key on my HHKB Pro 2?
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 20:33:46 »
lol alright lets get some noob questions out of the way

you guys are right about me thinking its an off the shelf item (the gumrot) but since it doesn't work on topre switches then I guess why should I care as of now. So is it a user on here that makes them?

what/who is noobinator?

Is there a dip switch on this HHKB to make the "Command/meta" key do something? What does it even do? I thought that was kind of going to be the windows key. Is it possible to do that?

Thanks for your patience I'm sure I'll have the hang on this and how things work around here in no time! :thumb:

CC goes on GH, he makes CC's in his spare time. he has a FAQ which you should probally read.

Nubbinator is another maker of custom keycaps

read the dip switch manual for the key mapping

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Re: Can I use a Clackfactory Gumrot ESC key on my HHKB Pro 2?
« Reply #15 on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 20:36:03 »
I'm on my phone or I'd link it.

 But there is a recent thread on the HHKB dip switches.

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Re: Can I use a Clackfactory Gumrot ESC key on my HHKB Pro 2?
« Reply #16 on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 20:38:15 »
I'm on my phone or I'd link it.

 But there is a recent thread on the HHKB dip switches.

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52559.0
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Re: Can I use a Clackfactory Gumrot ESC key on my HHKB Pro 2?
« Reply #17 on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 20:41:16 »
Thanks for all the help guys, it's much appreciated. I think the manual was in a foreign language so I just tossed it to the side. I will double check tho.
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Re: Can I use a Clackfactory Gumrot ESC key on my HHKB Pro 2?
« Reply #18 on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 20:45:56 »
I couldn't make sense of the manual either.

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Re: Can I use a Clackfactory Gumrot ESC key on my HHKB Pro 2?
« Reply #19 on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 20:50:32 »
I couldn't make sense of the manual either.

yup I just can't seem to read this language that I simply do not know lol
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Re: Can I use a Clackfactory Gumrot ESC key on my HHKB Pro 2?
« Reply #20 on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 21:14:04 »
Thanks for all the help guys, it's much appreciated. I think the manual was in a foreign language so I just tossed it to the side. I will double check tho.

At least you got a manual :))
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Re: Can I use a Clackfactory Gumrot ESC key on my HHKB Pro 2?
« Reply #21 on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 21:31:40 »
for the dip switches I have everything Up but '2' and '5' Down

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Re: Can I use a Clackfactory Gumrot ESC key on my HHKB Pro 2?
« Reply #22 on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 21:33:42 »
for the dip switches I have everything Up but '2' and '5' Down

Only one I have up right now is 3, which one makes the Command/meta key function as the Windows key?
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Re: Can I use a Clackfactory Gumrot ESC key on my HHKB Pro 2?
« Reply #23 on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 21:39:54 »
for the dip switches I have everything Up but '2' and '5' Down

Only one I have up right now is 3, which one makes the Command/meta key function as the Windows key?

You can check the elite page below it should help

http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=pfu_keyboards,hhkbpro2&pid=pdkb400b

do you meta keys do anything at all now?

I'm thinking turn SW1 On and SW 2 Off to put it in light mode

and remember you need to unplug it, switch the dip switches and then plug back in.

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Re: Can I use a Clackfactory Gumrot ESC key on my HHKB Pro 2?
« Reply #24 on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 21:50:11 »
for the dip switches I have everything Up but '2' and '5' Down

Only one I have up right now is 3, which one makes the Command/meta key function as the Windows key?

You can check the elite page below it should help

http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=pfu_keyboards,hhkbpro2&pid=pdkb400b

do you meta keys do anything at all now?

I'm thinking turn SW1 On and SW 2 Off to put it in light mode

and remember you need to unplug it, switch the dip switches and then plug back in.

Nice lite mode fixed it thanks!
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Re: Can I use a Clackfactory Gumrot ESC key on my HHKB Pro 2?
« Reply #25 on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 22:10:20 »
for the dip switches I have everything Up but '2' and '5' Down


Wait my HHKB has a meta key???

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Re: Can I use a Clackfactory Gumrot ESC key on my HHKB Pro 2?
« Reply #26 on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 22:11:42 »
for the dip switches I have everything Up but '2' and '5' Down


Wait my HHKB has a meta key???

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Re: Can I use a Clackfactory Gumrot ESC key on my HHKB Pro 2?
« Reply #27 on: Wed, 08 January 2014, 23:24:31 »
for the dip switches I have everything Up but '2' and '5' Down


Wait my HHKB has a meta key???

Lolz

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Re: Can I use a Clackfactory Gumrot ESC key on my HHKB Pro 2?
« Reply #28 on: Fri, 10 January 2014, 03:50:09 »
Bingecaps left out entirely :(
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Re: Can I use a Clackfactory Gumrot ESC key on my HHKB Pro 2?
« Reply #29 on: Fri, 10 January 2014, 04:22:53 »
Where are you from kskwerl?
What do you mean with 'flush synergy'? Gasmask had some blanks that would look great. I have one which is on my switch tester as I don't own any Topre (yet) and a mask.
The two on the left are Topre compatible for example.


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Re: Can I use a Clackfactory Gumrot ESC key on my HHKB Pro 2?
« Reply #30 on: Fri, 10 January 2014, 04:36:43 »
Where are you from kskwerl?
What do you mean with 'flush synergy'? Gasmask had some blanks that would look great. I have one which is on my switch tester as I don't own any Topre (yet) and a mask.
The two on the left are Topre compatible for example.
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I'm from NJ USA but live in Florida. Are those for sale? That red Gasmask is sick looking! Do those eyes light up on the green one if there's an LED under it?
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Re: Can I use a Clackfactory Gumrot ESC key on my HHKB Pro 2?
« Reply #31 on: Fri, 10 January 2014, 04:53:31 »
As far as I remember they don't. The pink one is translucent and MX only. I'll have to check how much shipping is to you after the weekend. Otherwise you can have the green one with the red eyes if you just pay shipping from The Netherlands to the US. ;)
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Re: Can I use a Clackfactory Gumrot ESC key on my HHKB Pro 2?
« Reply #32 on: Fri, 10 January 2014, 05:21:19 »
Provided you're interested if course.
otherwise take a look on the Gasmask subforum. Martin has a true red topre gasmask that he is selling right now. ;)
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Re: Can I use a Clackfactory Gumrot ESC key on my HHKB Pro 2?
« Reply #33 on: Fri, 10 January 2014, 06:53:24 »
You can check the classifieds for novelty Topre caps and find whatever your wallet can handle, clacks, bro's, gas masks, and binge caps to name a few!

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Re: Can I use a Clackfactory Gumrot ESC key on my HHKB Pro 2?
« Reply #34 on: Fri, 10 January 2014, 08:01:50 »
Bingecaps left out entirely :(

noobs can't handle bingecaps :P

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Re: Can I use a Clackfactory Gumrot ESC key on my HHKB Pro 2?
« Reply #35 on: Sat, 11 January 2014, 01:22:56 »
It's a user here who makes them. Clickclack/clackfactory

Nubbinator is a user here as well. He makes keycaps, cables, and a few other things.

The meta key should be a windows key, but I'm not sure.

I no longer do cables for anyone but myself.  It just wasn't worth it.  Instead, I play around with wood projects (cases, wrist wrests, cap pullers, and keycaps), resin casting caps, metal casting caps, and other fun experiments when I have the time.

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Re: Can I use a Clackfactory Gumrot ESC key on my HHKB Pro 2?
« Reply #36 on: Sat, 11 January 2014, 08:47:43 »
It's a user here who makes them. Clickclack/clackfactory

Nubbinator is a user here as well. He makes keycaps, cables, and a few other things.

The meta key should be a windows key, but I'm not sure.

I no longer do cables for anyone but myself.  It just wasn't worth it.  Instead, I play around with wood projects (cases, wrist wrests, cap pullers, and keycaps), resin casting caps, metal casting caps, and other fun experiments when I have the time.

Yea I've seen those wood cases on Overclock.net, they are gorgeous
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Re: Can I use a Clackfactory Gumrot ESC key on my HHKB Pro 2?
« Reply #37 on: Sat, 11 January 2014, 09:39:06 »
Don't worry Binge, I have you bookmarked. Check my sig. ;)

Wow Pearltree is pretty bad ass. I need a better way to organize all my bookmarks and I like how you arranged these.
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Re: Can I use a Clackfactory Gumrot ESC key on my HHKB Pro 2?
« Reply #38 on: Mon, 13 January 2014, 14:04:54 »
Don't worry Binge, I have you bookmarked. Check my sig. ;)

Wow Pearltree is pretty bad ass. I need a better way to organize all my bookmarks and I like how you arranged these.
I know right? ;)

It's not a bookmark replacement but it can certainly function as such. Since it's all public you can even get notified whenever someone 'Pearls' the same page so you can take a look at their links. I primarily use it as a quick and easy way to gather info on things I like. :)
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