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F-122
« on: Thu, 27 February 2014, 06:25:19 »
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Re: F-122
« Reply #1 on: Thu, 27 February 2014, 06:58:13 »
That is interesting. Of a dozen or so F-122s that have passed through my hands over the last few years, probably a quarter of them were from August 1985, and I don't think I ever had one newer than that.

Also, I have never had one that was not numbered 6110xxx, I thought that the part number 138xxxx/139xxxx signified the change to the Model M.
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Re: F-122
« Reply #2 on: Thu, 27 February 2014, 07:43:36 »
Some model Fs are 138**** For example the "unsaver" is a 1387033. It has been speculated that these came from lexmark using IBM parts and equipment, or as refurbs or something.

I'm not sure if I knew of the 1385151 product number before now.

You can see that the APL model F in this posthas a PN of 1385167. also a relatively new date of 16 oct '85
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Re: F-122
« Reply #3 on: Thu, 27 February 2014, 07:58:03 »
Quote from: dorkvader on Thu, 27 February 2014, 07:43:36
Some model Fs are 138**** For example the "unsaver" is a 1387033. It has been speculated that these came from lexmark using IBM parts and equipment, or as refurbs or something.

I'm not sure if I knew of the 1385151 product number before now.

You can see that the APL model F in this posthas a PN of 1385167. also a relatively new date of 16 oct '85

I thought Lexmark did not exist until the 1990s or so.
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Re: F-122
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 27 February 2014, 09:30:48 »
I could be wrong, but my understanding is that Model Fs would not have keycaps, correct?  It seems that this keyboard is missing a keycap for key to the left of "1".  If that is the case, then is this one of the keyboards that is changing to Model M as suggested by fohat.digs? 

I am just starting to learn about keyboards so could be way off here.
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Re: F-122
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 27 February 2014, 09:41:57 »
Quote from: milubilu on Thu, 27 February 2014, 09:30:48
I could be wrong, but my understanding is that Model Fs would not have keycaps, correct? 

All my Fs have had 2-piece keys, with rare exceptions, except for the XTs, which usually had 1-piece keys.

Maybe I should check my AT, I have not had it out in a couple of years.
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That's the message. That's the whole message. Say that every day, not just to reach America's frustrated young white men, but people of every age, race, and gender.
Late-stage capitalism is a wealth-concentration engine, focused on vacuuming up every dollar and putting it in as few hands as possible. Republicans are helping that vacuum suck.
How does a tiny fraction of the population get away with this? They do it by dividing the other 99% of Americans against themselves."
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Re: F-122
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 27 February 2014, 12:07:05 »
Quote from: fohat.digs on Thu, 27 February 2014, 09:41:57
Maybe I should check my AT, I have not had it out in a couple of years.

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Re: F-122
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 27 February 2014, 12:30:35 »
COME ON

I WAS GOING TO BUY IT

GRRRRRR
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Re: F-122
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Re: F-122
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 27 February 2014, 13:57:25 »
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Re: F-122
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 27 February 2014, 14:03:50 »
Quote from: fohat.digs on Thu, 27 February 2014, 06:58:13
That is interesting. Of a dozen or so F-122s that have passed through my hands over the last few years, probably a quarter of them were from August 1985, and I don't think I ever had one newer than that.

Also, I have never had one that was not numbered 6110xxx, I thought that the part number 138xxxx/139xxxx signified the change to the Model M.

I have one from November of 1985.
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Re: F-122
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 27 February 2014, 14:05:46 »
How much do you think this'll go for? I really would love to get an F122 but have no idea how much they usually sell for.
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Re: F-122
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 27 February 2014, 14:09:07 »
You guys should let me get this one, since I got screwed on that last eBay sale for them. ;)
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Re: F-122
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 27 February 2014, 14:12:17 »
Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 27 February 2014, 14:05:46
How much do you think this'll go for? I really would love to get an F122 but have no idea how much they usually sell for.


Depends, the one I got was 55$ + shipping, but I was very lucky I suppose. JD got less lucky...
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Re: F-122
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 27 February 2014, 14:35:00 »
Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 27 February 2014, 14:09:07
You guys should let me get this one, since I got screwed on that last eBay sale for them. ;)

I won't bid on it for sure :P
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Re: F-122
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 27 February 2014, 14:37:51 »
Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 27 February 2014, 14:05:46
How much do you think this'll go for? I really would love to get an F122 but have no idea how much they usually sell for.

Price seems to be trending towards $150 or so - I got two for $75/each a while back, and feel like I got a good deal.

Of course, the motherload of F122s may depress prices soon.
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Re: F-122
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 27 February 2014, 15:17:44 »
Quote from: semyorka on Thu, 27 February 2014, 14:37:51
Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 27 February 2014, 14:05:46
How much do you think this'll go for? I really would love to get an F122 but have no idea how much they usually sell for.

Price seems to be trending towards $150 or so - I got two for $75/each a while back, and feel like I got a good deal.

Of course, the motherload of F122s may depress prices soon.
What the **** is that collection
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Re: F-122
« Reply #17 on: Thu, 27 February 2014, 16:53:02 »
Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 27 February 2014, 12:30:35
COME ON

I WAS GOING TO BUY IT

GRRRRRR


Did you win it?
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Re: F-122
« Reply #18 on: Thu, 27 February 2014, 17:57:35 »
Quote from: jonathanyu on Thu, 27 February 2014, 15:17:44
Quote from: semyorka on Thu, 27 February 2014, 14:37:51
Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 27 February 2014, 14:05:46
How much do you think this'll go for? I really would love to get an F122 but have no idea how much they usually sell for.

Price seems to be trending towards $150 or so - I got two for $75/each a while back, and feel like I got a good deal.

Of course, the motherload of F122s may depress prices soon.
What the **** is that collection
That seems to be the pretty universal response.
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Re: F-122
« Reply #19 on: Thu, 27 February 2014, 18:41:41 »
Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 27 February 2014, 16:53:02
Quote from: Pacifist on Thu, 27 February 2014, 12:30:35
COME ON

I WAS GOING TO BUY IT

GRRRRRR


Did you win it?

My snipe was for $125 and I was banking off of no one finding it
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Re: F-122
« Reply #20 on: Thu, 27 February 2014, 18:58:35 »
Don't ever count on no one finding it. I knew about it before this thread appeared. If you have a search saved on eBay with the right keywords, you'll find these things in your email periodically.
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Re: F-122
« Reply #21 on: Thu, 27 February 2014, 19:20:13 »
Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 27 February 2014, 18:58:35
Don't ever count on no one finding it. I knew about it before this thread appeared. If you have a search saved on eBay with the right keywords, you'll find these things in your email periodically.

A bit off topic, but I've found ebay's notifications to be near useless, because they're delayed by hours. Does anyone have a recommendation for an instantaneous email notification service?
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Re: F-122
« Reply #22 on: Thu, 27 February 2014, 20:03:03 »
Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 27 February 2014, 19:20:13
because they're delayed by hours.

They come out once a day. A listing might be 23 seconds old or 23 hours old. But you're right, a good deal might have gotten snatched up.
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That's the message. That's the whole message. Say that every day, not just to reach America's frustrated young white men, but people of every age, race, and gender.
Late-stage capitalism is a wealth-concentration engine, focused on vacuuming up every dollar and putting it in as few hands as possible. Republicans are helping that vacuum suck.
How does a tiny fraction of the population get away with this? They do it by dividing the other 99% of Americans against themselves."
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Re: F-122
« Reply #23 on: Thu, 27 February 2014, 21:23:52 »
Quote from: JPG on Thu, 27 February 2014, 14:12:17
Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 27 February 2014, 14:05:46
How much do you think this'll go for? I really would love to get an F122 but have no idea how much they usually sell for.


Depends, the one I got was 55$ + shipping, but I was very lucky I suppose. JD got less lucky...

mine was $35+shipping
Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 27 February 2014, 18:58:35
Don't ever count on no one finding it. I knew about it before this thread appeared. If you have a search saved on eBay with the right keywords, you'll find these things in your email periodically.
^this. I have my own IBM filters set up on eBay, and I know several other GH'ers that do too. The only items that go "unnoticed" are mis-listed, and often not even then.

For example, I saw as displaywriter (beamspring) listed as "IBM system information card". The word "keyboard' was not in the title or description. Yet, another Geekhacker still noticed it. (and politely declined to bid for my sake).
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Re: F-122
« Reply #24 on: Thu, 27 February 2014, 21:44:52 »
Ah okay

thanks for the advice

so only newly listed BINs are easy pickings
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Re: F-122
« Reply #25 on: Thu, 27 February 2014, 22:50:31 »
Quote from: fohat.digs on Thu, 27 February 2014, 06:58:13
That is interesting. Of a dozen or so F-122s that have passed through my hands over the last few years, probably a quarter of them were from August 1985, and I don't think I ever had one newer than that.
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Re: F-122
« Reply #26 on: Thu, 27 February 2014, 23:05:24 »
Quote from: REVENGE on Thu, 27 February 2014, 22:50:31
Quote from: fohat.digs on Thu, 27 February 2014, 06:58:13
That is interesting. Of a dozen or so F-122s that have passed through my hands over the last few years, probably a quarter of them were from August 1985, and I don't think I ever had one newer than that.
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Re: F-122
« Reply #27 on: Thu, 27 February 2014, 23:19:42 »
Quote from: REVENGE on Thu, 27 February 2014, 22:50:31
Quote from: fohat.digs on Thu, 27 February 2014, 06:58:13
That is interesting. Of a dozen or so F-122s that have passed through my hands over the last few years, probably a quarter of them were from August 1985, and I don't think I ever had one newer than that.
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Re: F-122
« Reply #28 on: Fri, 28 February 2014, 07:02:42 »
Quote from: fohat.digs on Thu, 27 February 2014, 20:03:03
Quote from: intelli78 on Thu, 27 February 2014, 19:20:13
because they're delayed by hours.

They come out once a day. A listing might be 23 seconds old or 23 hours old. But you're right, a good deal might have gotten snatched up.


Hmmm...  I wonder if anyone has written a tool to perform searches periodically.   Might be a market for such a tool.  The difficult aspect is that ebay does not provide an API, so you have to scrape the data.   
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Re: F-122
« Reply #29 on: Fri, 28 February 2014, 07:10:17 »
Quote from: JWK on Fri, 28 February 2014, 07:02:42
so you have to scrape the data.   

I am sure that we all forget the sheer size of ebay.

For example, a search for "IBM keyboard" give 10K hits and "Dell keyboard" yields 30K hits. And my ebay is only set to North America.

Personally, I appreciate that ebay allows me to have a watch list at all. At some point you just have to let go and be satisfied with less than everything.
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That's the message. That's the whole message. Say that every day, not just to reach America's frustrated young white men, but people of every age, race, and gender.
Late-stage capitalism is a wealth-concentration engine, focused on vacuuming up every dollar and putting it in as few hands as possible. Republicans are helping that vacuum suck.
How does a tiny fraction of the population get away with this? They do it by dividing the other 99% of Americans against themselves."
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Re: F-122
« Reply #30 on: Fri, 28 February 2014, 07:37:20 »
Quote from: fohat.digs on Fri, 28 February 2014, 07:10:17
Quote from: JWK on Fri, 28 February 2014, 07:02:42
so you have to scrape the data.   

I am sure that we all forget the sheer size of ebay.

For example, a search for "IBM keyboard" give 10K hits and "Dell keyboard" yields 30K hits. And my ebay is only set to North America.

Personally, I appreciate that ebay allows me to have a watch list at all. At some point you just have to let go and be satisfied with less than everything.


and yet a few simple exclusions narrows things down considerably. For example "ibm keyboard -usb -black -lenovo -laptop -thinkpad -think -pos" has less than 1000 hits, and you can easily get it down to a few hundred with more.
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Re: F-122
« Reply #31 on: Fri, 28 February 2014, 07:38:33 »
Quote from: fohat.digs on Fri, 28 February 2014, 07:10:17
At some point you just have to let go and be satisfied with less than everything.

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Re: F-122
« Reply #32 on: Fri, 28 February 2014, 07:43:47 »
I am not a software developer, but I am reasonably confident that I am not the first person to think of this. There is probably a good reason there's no such tool. But yes, anyone who could develop this service would rake in cash  :thumb:
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Re: F-122
« Reply #33 on: Fri, 28 February 2014, 10:05:11 »
So, did one of us here win the auction? I'm curious to know if the internals are different than the usual 6xxx model numbers.
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Re: F-122
« Reply #34 on: Fri, 28 February 2014, 10:14:41 »
It wasn't me who won it. FYI, I'm the one with 299 feedback.

Maybe it was EverythingIBM again.
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