KBP v60 or KBP Poker ll

[Mrupton]

I'm torn between these two. I'm switching from a cmstorm quickfire pro with brown switches to one of the ones in the title with blue switches. Which one should I get? Mostly going to be used for typing.

[demik]

Mostly going to be used for typing

so like every other keyboard

anyway, get the cheaper one.

[Mrupton]

Mostly going to be used for typing

so like every other keyboard

anyway, get the cheaper one.

Meant in the sense i'm not going to be gaming.. :#

[demik]

i know, im just messing with you.

either way, i'd still go for the cheaper one. they're basically the same keyboard other than one has backlighting and the other doesnt

[Mrupton]

i know, im just messing with you.

either way, i'd still go for the cheaper one. they're basically the same keyboard other than one has backlighting and the other doesnt

Gotcha! Thanks man Any recommendations on where to get blank keycaps for it?

[demik]

i know, im just messing with you.

either way, i'd still go for the cheaper one. they're basically the same keyboard other than one has backlighting and the other doesnt

Gotcha! Thanks man Any recommendations on where to get blank keycaps for it?

http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/keycap-set.html

[Badwrench]

i know, im just messing with you.

either way, i'd still go for the cheaper one. they're basically the same keyboard other than one has backlighting and the other doesnt

Gotcha! Thanks man Any recommendations on where to get blank keycaps for it?

White pbt:  http://www.ebay.com/itm/PBT-87-Set-Blank-White-Key-Caps-for-Cherry-MX-Keyboard-/251647317945?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a975957b9

[notsonerd]

They have different Fn layouts. And it's the KBP V60 and KBT* Poker II. They also have a few subtle differences, but these differences can be deal breakers.

-The default Fn layout for the V60 tends to make more sense than the Poker II, but the Poker II is completely reprogramable with a little effort.

-The Poker II also comes with PBT keycaps, so you'd have better quality there if you opt for no backlighting. Both backlit versions of the V60 and Poker II come with ABS.

-The Poker II is also more customizable than the V60. Although you could fit the V60 in a Poker II case, the DIP switches will become partially covered by the case. This isn't a problem with the Poker II.

Other than what I've listed above, they're essentially the same board.

I'm very happy with the V60 being my first board. I'm a fan of the backlight, and the ABS keycaps don't feel as bad as in others, though PBT is definitely in this keyboard's future.

Edit: You can also get the white PBT keycaps linked above for way cheaper on Banggood.com.

More from Pimpmykeyboard.com.

[Oobly]

Just thought I'd highlight the biggest difference that notsonerd mentioned, but it's an important one:

The Poker II is completely programmable!

You don't like the Fn layer? Reprogram it.

KBP V60 is not programmable. If you prefer the backlight options of the V60 and like the Fn layer and see no need to reprogram anything on it, then the V60 could suit you. If you prefer thick PBT caps or value customisability highly, get the Poker II unbacklit version (you can solder in any colour of LED's to make it backlit). If you don't want to do any soldering, but want backlighting AND programmability get the backlit Poker II.

[ConscienceDrop]

i will say as a v60 owner that the build quality feels much better than on the poker.

also there is the option of matias switches or green/white MX on the v60 although the white might be harder to track down

[notsonerd]

i will say as a v60 owner that the build quality feels much better than on the poker.

also there is the option of matias switches or green/white MX on the v60 although the white might be harder to track down

First I've heard of people thinking the build quality on the V60 feels better. That's nice to hear, but I hope to verify that myself some day soon.

The V60 also comes with Cherry MX Clears if you're ever curious.

[Mrupton]

Just thought I'd highlight the biggest difference that notsonerd mentioned, but it's an important one:

The Poker II is completely programmable!

You don't like the Fn layer? Reprogram it.

KBP V60 is not programmable. If you prefer the backlight options of the V60 and like the Fn layer and see no need to reprogram anything on it, then the V60 could suit you. If you prefer thick PBT caps or value customisability highly, get the Poker II unbacklit version (you can solder in any colour of LED's to make it backlit). If you don't want to do any soldering, but want backlighting AND programmability get the backlit Poker II.

I dont really know the difference between pbt and other types of keys :3

I'm new to all of this.

[notsonerd]

Just thought I'd highlight the biggest difference that notsonerd mentioned, but it's an important one:

The Poker II is completely programmable!

You don't like the Fn layer? Reprogram it.

KBP V60 is not programmable. If you prefer the backlight options of the V60 and like the Fn layer and see no need to reprogram anything on it, then the V60 could suit you. If you prefer thick PBT caps or value customisability highly, get the Poker II unbacklit version (you can solder in any colour of LED's to make it backlit). If you don't want to do any soldering, but want backlighting AND programmability get the backlit Poker II.

I dont really know the difference between pbt and other types of keys :3

I'm new to all of this.

A quick run-down: ABS keycaps are thin and the surface tends to wear out much more quickly with use, creating that "shine" you'll be reading about. If you've ever used a rubber dome keyboard for a few years, you already know what it feels like and why people generally don't like it. Being thin, they don't dampen sound as well as thick PBT keycaps. It's the same material used in modern Legos.

PBT is thicker and doesn't wear down nearly as easily. Thickness varies, but they'll dampen the sound of your typing better than any ABS keycap. People tend to like the way PBT keycaps sound and feel better than ABS. It's generally higher quality, hence the premium price tag.

[noodles256]

Mostly going to be used for typing

so like every other keyboard

anyway, get the cheaper one.

Meant in the sense i'm not going to be gaming.. :#

amen brotha

[AverageHybrid]

I don't own any of those but as far as I know if you are getting the backlight version of the KBP Poker II I do not know how they both but compare. But for me personally I would go for the PBT non-backlit version of the Poker II any day over backlit ABS keycaps.

[epzy]

Just thought I'd highlight the biggest difference that notsonerd mentioned, but it's an important one:

The Poker II is completely programmable!

You don't like the Fn layer? Reprogram it.

KBP V60 is not programmable. If you prefer the backlight options of the V60 and like the Fn layer and see no need to reprogram anything on it, then the V60 could suit you. If you prefer thick PBT caps or value customisability highly, get the Poker II unbacklit version (you can solder in any colour of LED's to make it backlit). If you don't want to do any soldering, but want backlighting AND programmability get the backlit Poker II.

I dont really know the difference between pbt and other types of keys :3

I'm new to all of this.

A quick run-down: ABS keycaps are thin and the surface tends to wear out much more quickly with use, creating that "shine" you'll be reading about. If you've ever used a rubber dome keyboard for a few years, you already know what it feels like and why people generally don't like it. Being thin, they don't dampen sound as well as thick PBT keycaps. It's the same material used in modern Legos.

PBT is thicker and doesn't wear down nearly as easily. Thickness varies, but they'll dampen the sound of your typing better than any ABS keycap. People tend to like the way PBT keycaps sound and feel better than ABS. It's generally higher quality, hence the premium price tag.

mind=blown

[Signature]

Just thought I'd highlight the biggest difference that notsonerd mentioned, but it's an important one:

The Poker II is completely programmable!

You don't like the Fn layer? Reprogram it.

KBP V60 is not programmable. If you prefer the backlight options of the V60 and like the Fn layer and see no need to reprogram anything on it, then the V60 could suit you. If you prefer thick PBT caps or value customisability highly, get the Poker II unbacklit version (you can solder in any colour of LED's to make it backlit). If you don't want to do any soldering, but want backlighting AND programmability get the backlit Poker II.

I dont really know the difference between pbt and other types of keys :3

I'm new to all of this.

A quick run-down: ABS keycaps are thin and the surface tends to wear out much more quickly with use, creating that "shine" you'll be reading about. If you've ever used a rubber dome keyboard for a few years, you already know what it feels like and why people generally don't like it. Being thin, they don't dampen sound as well as thick PBT keycaps. It's the same material used in modern Legos.

PBT is thicker and doesn't wear down nearly as easily. Thickness varies, but they'll dampen the sound of your typing better than any ABS keycap. People tend to like the way PBT keycaps sound and feel better than ABS. It's generally higher quality, hence the premium price tag.

mind=blown

Nothing beats the stock pbt poker caps tho, top noch quality 

[dante]

...Coming soon to MechanicalKeyboards.com

[notsonerd]

Just thought I'd highlight the biggest difference that notsonerd mentioned, but it's an important one:

The Poker II is completely programmable!

You don't like the Fn layer? Reprogram it.

KBP V60 is not programmable. If you prefer the backlight options of the V60 and like the Fn layer and see no need to reprogram anything on it, then the V60 could suit you. If you prefer thick PBT caps or value customisability highly, get the Poker II unbacklit version (you can solder in any colour of LED's to make it backlit). If you don't want to do any soldering, but want backlighting AND programmability get the backlit Poker II.

I dont really know the difference between pbt and other types of keys :3

I'm new to all of this.

A quick run-down: ABS keycaps are thin and the surface tends to wear out much more quickly with use, creating that "shine" you'll be reading about. If you've ever used a rubber dome keyboard for a few years, you already know what it feels like and why people generally don't like it. Being thin, they don't dampen sound as well as thick PBT keycaps. It's the same material used in modern Legos.

PBT is thicker and doesn't wear down nearly as easily. Thickness varies, but they'll dampen the sound of your typing better than any ABS keycap. People tend to like the way PBT keycaps sound and feel better than ABS. It's generally higher quality, hence the premium price tag.

mind=blown

Did I say something wrong? o_o

[Mrupton]

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Is that better then the two I listed? I dont know too much about keyboards.

[epzy]

Just thought I'd highlight the biggest difference that notsonerd mentioned, but it's an important one:

The Poker II is completely programmable!

You don't like the Fn layer? Reprogram it.

KBP V60 is not programmable. If you prefer the backlight options of the V60 and like the Fn layer and see no need to reprogram anything on it, then the V60 could suit you. If you prefer thick PBT caps or value customisability highly, get the Poker II unbacklit version (you can solder in any colour of LED's to make it backlit). If you don't want to do any soldering, but want backlighting AND programmability get the backlit Poker II.

I dont really know the difference between pbt and other types of keys :3

I'm new to all of this.

A quick run-down: ABS keycaps are thin and the surface tends to wear out much more quickly with use, creating that "shine" you'll be reading about. If you've ever used a rubber dome keyboard for a few years, you already know what it feels like and why people generally don't like it. Being thin, they don't dampen sound as well as thick PBT keycaps. It's the same material used in modern Legos.

PBT is thicker and doesn't wear down nearly as easily. Thickness varies, but they'll dampen the sound of your typing better than any ABS keycap. People tend to like the way PBT keycaps sound and feel better than ABS. It's generally higher quality, hence the premium price tag.

mind=blown

Did I say something wrong? o_o

"ABS keycaps are thin" and "PBT is thicker"... check out GMK and Cherry ABS keycaps

[notsonerd]

Just thought I'd highlight the biggest difference that notsonerd mentioned, but it's an important one:

The Poker II is completely programmable!

You don't like the Fn layer? Reprogram it.

KBP V60 is not programmable. If you prefer the backlight options of the V60 and like the Fn layer and see no need to reprogram anything on it, then the V60 could suit you. If you prefer thick PBT caps or value customisability highly, get the Poker II unbacklit version (you can solder in any colour of LED's to make it backlit). If you don't want to do any soldering, but want backlighting AND programmability get the backlit Poker II.

I dont really know the difference between pbt and other types of keys :3

I'm new to all of this.

A quick run-down: ABS keycaps are thin and the surface tends to wear out much more quickly with use, creating that "shine" you'll be reading about. If you've ever used a rubber dome keyboard for a few years, you already know what it feels like and why people generally don't like it. Being thin, they don't dampen sound as well as thick PBT keycaps. It's the same material used in modern Legos.

PBT is thicker and doesn't wear down nearly as easily. Thickness varies, but they'll dampen the sound of your typing better than any ABS keycap. People tend to like the way PBT keycaps sound and feel better than ABS. It's generally higher quality, hence the premium price tag.

mind=blown

Did I say something wrong? o_o

"ABS keycaps are thin" and "PBT is thicker"... check out GMK and Cherry ABS keycaps

Thanks for letting me know. The stock ABS keycaps for the V60 and Poker II are thin* epzy's listed thicker ABS alternatives in case you're not into PBT.

[Signature]

Just thought I'd highlight the biggest difference that notsonerd mentioned, but it's an important one:

The Poker II is completely programmable!

You don't like the Fn layer? Reprogram it.

KBP V60 is not programmable. If you prefer the backlight options of the V60 and like the Fn layer and see no need to reprogram anything on it, then the V60 could suit you. If you prefer thick PBT caps or value customisability highly, get the Poker II unbacklit version (you can solder in any colour of LED's to make it backlit). If you don't want to do any soldering, but want backlighting AND programmability get the backlit Poker II.

I dont really know the difference between pbt and other types of keys :3

I'm new to all of this.

A quick run-down: ABS keycaps are thin and the surface tends to wear out much more quickly with use, creating that "shine" you'll be reading about. If you've ever used a rubber dome keyboard for a few years, you already know what it feels like and why people generally don't like it. Being thin, they don't dampen sound as well as thick PBT keycaps. It's the same material used in modern Legos.

PBT is thicker and doesn't wear down nearly as easily. Thickness varies, but they'll dampen the sound of your typing better than any ABS keycap. People tend to like the way PBT keycaps sound and feel better than ABS. It's generally higher quality, hence the premium price tag.

mind=blown

Did I say something wrong? o_o

"ABS keycaps are thin" and "PBT is thicker"... check out GMK and Cherry ABS keycaps

Nothing compares to the stock poker pbt

[Oobly]

Just thought I'd highlight the biggest difference that notsonerd mentioned, but it's an important one:

The Poker II is completely programmable!

You don't like the Fn layer? Reprogram it.

KBP V60 is not programmable. If you prefer the backlight options of the V60 and like the Fn layer and see no need to reprogram anything on it, then the V60 could suit you. If you prefer thick PBT caps or value customisability highly, get the Poker II unbacklit version (you can solder in any colour of LED's to make it backlit). If you don't want to do any soldering, but want backlighting AND programmability get the backlit Poker II.

I dont really know the difference between pbt and other types of keys :3

I'm new to all of this.

A quick run-down: ABS keycaps are thin and the surface tends to wear out much more quickly with use, creating that "shine" you'll be reading about. If you've ever used a rubber dome keyboard for a few years, you already know what it feels like and why people generally don't like it. Being thin, they don't dampen sound as well as thick PBT keycaps. It's the same material used in modern Legos.

PBT is thicker and doesn't wear down nearly as easily. Thickness varies, but they'll dampen the sound of your typing better than any ABS keycap. People tend to like the way PBT keycaps sound and feel better than ABS. It's generally higher quality, hence the premium price tag.

mind=blown

Did I say something wrong? o_o

"ABS keycaps are thin" and "PBT is thicker"... check out GMK and Cherry ABS keycaps

Nothing compares to the stock poker pbt

There are a lot of better keycaps than stock Poker II caps. They're lasered, so the legends are raised and they're OEM profile. They are at least thick and made from PBT, but that doesn't make them the best. I'd say they're almost as good as the new Leopold sets and that those are two of the best STOCK keycap sets that come on currently made boards.

IMHO, Cherry profile dyesub thick PBT are way better (nicer profile for typing on and dyesub legends are not raised so you don't feel them). As are Cherry POM caps (better profile and material), GMK thick doubleshot ABS (ultra high quality and smooth, thick and heavy), SA profile doubleshot ABS (smooth, thick and heavy, look awesome), etc.

[Signature]

Just thought I'd highlight the biggest difference that notsonerd mentioned, but it's an important one:

The Poker II is completely programmable!

You don't like the Fn layer? Reprogram it.

KBP V60 is not programmable. If you prefer the backlight options of the V60 and like the Fn layer and see no need to reprogram anything on it, then the V60 could suit you. If you prefer thick PBT caps or value customisability highly, get the Poker II unbacklit version (you can solder in any colour of LED's to make it backlit). If you don't want to do any soldering, but want backlighting AND programmability get the backlit Poker II.

I dont really know the difference between pbt and other types of keys :3

I'm new to all of this.

A quick run-down: ABS keycaps are thin and the surface tends to wear out much more quickly with use, creating that "shine" you'll be reading about. If you've ever used a rubber dome keyboard for a few years, you already know what it feels like and why people generally don't like it. Being thin, they don't dampen sound as well as thick PBT keycaps. It's the same material used in modern Legos.

PBT is thicker and doesn't wear down nearly as easily. Thickness varies, but they'll dampen the sound of your typing better than any ABS keycap. People tend to like the way PBT keycaps sound and feel better than ABS. It's generally higher quality, hence the premium price tag.

mind=blown

Did I say something wrong? o_o

"ABS keycaps are thin" and "PBT is thicker"... check out GMK and Cherry ABS keycaps

Nothing compares to the stock poker pbt

There are a lot of better keycaps than stock Poker II caps. They're lasered, so the legends are raised and they're OEM profile. They are at least thick and made from PBT, but that doesn't make them the best. I'd say they're almost as good as the new Leopold sets and that those are two of the best STOCK keycap sets that come on currently made boards.

IMHO, Cherry profile dyesub thick PBT are way better (nicer profile for typing on and dyesub legends are not raised so you don't feel them). As are Cherry POM caps (better profile and material), GMK thick doubleshot ABS (ultra high quality and smooth, thick and heavy), SA profile doubleshot ABS (smooth, thick and heavy, look awesome), etc.

Just Malung a spion of the guy at resedit WHO had an argument with epzy and Said poker stock caps>all

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Just thought I'd highlight the biggest difference that notsonerd mentioned, but it's an important one:

The Poker II is completely programmable!

You don't like the Fn layer? Reprogram it.

KBP V60 is not programmable. If you prefer the backlight options of the V60 and like the Fn layer and see no need to reprogram anything on it, then the V60 could suit you. If you prefer thick PBT caps or value customisability highly, get the Poker II unbacklit version (you can solder in any colour of LED's to make it backlit). If you don't want to do any soldering, but want backlighting AND programmability get the backlit Poker II.

I dont really know the difference between pbt and other types of keys :3

I'm new to all of this.

A quick run-down: ABS keycaps are thin and the surface tends to wear out much more quickly with use, creating that "shine" you'll be reading about. If you've ever used a rubber dome keyboard for a few years, you already know what it feels like and why people generally don't like it. Being thin, they don't dampen sound as well as thick PBT keycaps. It's the same material used in modern Legos.

PBT is thicker and doesn't wear down nearly as easily. Thickness varies, but they'll dampen the sound of your typing better than any ABS keycap. People tend to like the way PBT keycaps sound and feel better than ABS. It's generally higher quality, hence the premium price tag.

mind=blown

Did I say something wrong? o_o

"ABS keycaps are thin" and "PBT is thicker"... check out GMK and Cherry ABS keycaps

Nothing compares to the stock poker pbt

There are a lot of better keycaps than stock Poker II caps. They're lasered, so the legends are raised and they're OEM profile. They are at least thick and made from PBT, but that doesn't make them the best. I'd say they're almost as good as the new Leopold sets and that those are two of the best STOCK keycap sets that come on currently made boards.

IMHO, Cherry profile dyesub thick PBT are way better (nicer profile for typing on and dyesub legends are not raised so you don't feel them). As are Cherry POM caps (better profile and material), GMK thick doubleshot ABS (ultra high quality and smooth, thick and heavy), SA profile doubleshot ABS (smooth, thick and heavy, look awesome), etc.

Just Making a spoof of the guy at reddit WHO had an argument with epzy and Said poker stock caps>all

Edit: fk you auto correct

[Oobly]

Ah, sorry, didn't catch the reference. 

[Signature]

Ah, sorry, didn't catch the reference. 

Nah I should stick to trolling only on the off topic forum, I'm just confusing people...