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Offline Yakumo

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ISO PBT Doubleshot for Steelseries 6g/7g
« on: Mon, 24 November 2014, 20:38:48 »
Steelseries sold quite a lot of 6g/6gv2 and 7g keyboards with ISO keysets with windows keys, but the keys are laser etched ABS I believe, and mine have worn down so I'm really quite interested in a PBT doubleshot set, I've seen some posts about this before, but they're a year or more old, does anyone have any up to date info where I might find a set?

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Re: ISO PBT Doubleshot for Steelseries 6g/7g
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 24 November 2014, 20:42:41 »
I found https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=64674.0, but they're not doubleshot as far as google translate will help, and I'm not sure about ordering, or the google translate colours either...

"6G dedicated local tyrant Kim Jong-engraved" o_O
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Re: ISO PBT Doubleshot for Steelseries 6g/7g
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 24 November 2014, 20:53:40 »
I doubt that there will be a full DS set for the 6/7G. The odd enter existing on only that keyboard makes producing sets with it a but of a waste. Especially when you consider how many people who own one actually want to customize it.
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Re: ISO PBT Doubleshot for Steelseries 6g/7g
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 24 November 2014, 21:27:27 »
I found https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=64674.0, but they're not doubleshot as far as google translate will help, and I'm not sure about ordering, or the google translate colours either...

"6G dedicated local tyrant Kim Jong-engraved" o_O

As someone who reads Japanese manga I'm sure you know how important context is in all East Asian languages.

The translation is pretty funny but it actually comes from the brand name Tuhaojin (local bigwig/ mafia boss gold). Kim Jong Un's surname means Gold.

Anyway I do have that bigass enter for sale, but only SP DCS profile. I have BoW, WoB, and possibly colored.
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Re: ISO PBT Doubleshot for Steelseries 6g/7g
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 25 November 2014, 03:27:13 »
As someone who reads Japanese manga I'm sure you know how important context is in all East Asian languages.

The translation is pretty funny but it actually comes from the brand name Tuhaojin (local bigwig/ mafia boss gold). Kim Jong Un's surname means Gold.

Anyway I do have that bigass enter for sale, but only SP DCS profile. I have BoW, WoB, and possibly colored.

Yeah, it's just one of the best translations I've seen in years :D

Is it possible to get a pic? especially of the white lettering on black version.

And also how much do you sell them for/how would I go about buying from you? :)

I'd rather get a full set if possible obviously, but if not, at least something from the same materials for the enter key will have to be the next best.


edit: or perhaps as it seems you maybe understand chinese could you help me get a black full PBT set with lettering on the top, from http://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.149.wVciJB&id=38714414427 as it seems I'll have to give up on them being doubleshot.

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Re: ISO PBT Doubleshot for Steelseries 6g/7g
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 25 November 2014, 09:32:13 »


Yeah, it's just one of the best translations I've seen in years :D

Is it possible to get a pic? especially of the white lettering on black version.

And also how much do you sell them for/how would I go about buying from you? :)

I'd rather get a full set if possible obviously, but if not, at least something from the same materials for the enter key will have to be the next best.


edit: or perhaps as it seems you maybe understand chinese could you help me get a black full PBT set with lettering on the top, from http://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.149.wVciJB&id=38714414427 as it seems I'll have to give up on them being doubleshot.

The link makes no mention of a BLACK set. This is one of the problems with Taobao. Seller descriptions are sometimes vague. EG my impression of a tuhaojin set is that it's GOLD, especially since the first such sets in my memory were gold. I even posted about them earlier this year.

Anyway I am not the best person to proxy. Try bhiner.com. In any case stuff will wind up being sent to Singapore first incurring you extra shipping costs.

I am selling keycaps on my thread. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62921.0  I might be able to put together an entire set of SP DCS profile keycaps for you; would cost about the same as Taobao I think once you factor in Taobao proxying and shipping.

As this keycap selling thing is very time consuming I am going to close shop by the end of the year and put everything not sold into storage. I've already more or less settled on my ideal keyboard and am merely awaiting my Brother label printer to be delivered.
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Re: ISO PBT Doubleshot for Steelseries 6g/7g
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 25 November 2014, 11:38:05 »
Taihuojin is not a brand. It's the Chinese principle of of flaunting wealth. It implies gold, but doesn't directly mean gold. The word for gold is "金" or "Jīn".
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Re: ISO PBT Doubleshot for Steelseries 6g/7g
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 25 November 2014, 12:06:45 »
Taihuojin is not a brand. It's the Chinese principle of of flaunting wealth. It implies gold, but doesn't directly mean gold. The word for gold is "金" or "Jīn".

Is there any regional dialect usage associated with this? This March or so was the first time I ever came across this phrase tuhaojin. (I have come across tuhao in the past, but it isn't a commonly used phrase for me.)
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Re: ISO PBT Doubleshot for Steelseries 6g/7g
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 25 November 2014, 12:09:44 »
Taihuojin is not a brand. It's the Chinese principle of of flaunting wealth. It implies gold, but doesn't directly mean gold. The word for gold is "金" or "Jīn".

Is there any regional dialect usage associated with this? This March or so was the first time I ever came across this phrase tuhaojin. (I have come across tuhao in the past, but it isn't a commonly used phrase for me.)

I think it's largely a Taiwanese thing, but I really couldn't tell you. I'd have to do some research.
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Re: ISO PBT Doubleshot for Steelseries 6g/7g
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 25 November 2014, 14:31:17 »
I might be able to put together an entire set of SP DCS profile keycaps for you; would cost about the same as Taobao I think once you factor in Taobao proxying and shipping.

As this keycap selling thing is very time consuming I am going to close shop by the end of the year and put everything not sold into storage. I've already more or less settled on my ideal keyboard and am merely awaiting my Brother label printer to be delivered.

I tried looking through your thread, a lot of the abbreviations don't mean a lot to me at the moment.
The image you messaged me of the replacement enter key looks great, I was mostly just a little concerned as I'd found the g7 doesn't actually have a standard ISO key.

I'd be interested in a proper quote on a full set (usd is fine), though I'd like a shot of them before purchasing tbh as I have not liked some of the num pad sets I've seen.

Or if that's too much to put together, I would definitely like to get hold of that enter key so I could buy any other ISO or ANSI set.

I do live in the UK though, so I hope it's not too much of a bother to post there.

Many many thanks.


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Re: ISO PBT Doubleshot for Steelseries 6g/7g
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 25 November 2014, 18:49:18 »
Taihuojin is not a brand. It's the Chinese principle of of flaunting wealth. It implies gold, but doesn't directly mean gold. The word for gold is "金" or "Jīn".

Is there any regional dialect usage associated with this? This March or so was the first time I ever came across this phrase tuhaojin. (I have come across tuhao in the past, but it isn't a commonly used phrase for me.)

I think it's largely a Taiwanese thing, but I really couldn't tell you. I'd have to do some research.

I find that very interesting, because Taiwanese have their local variant of Mandarin. It's 99.9% the same but sometimes they say things differently. We tend to think that Taiwanese Mandarin (Guoyu) is the same as Commonspeak (Putonghua) but occasionally you bump into a usage you don't understand.

I always think things would have been so much better if the Nationalists had won the civil war and unified the country.

That said, I don't think its Minnanese. If it was a Hokkien phrase I should have heard it at some point in my life.
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Re: ISO PBT Doubleshot for Steelseries 6g/7g
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 25 November 2014, 19:00:43 »
I might be able to put together an entire set of SP DCS profile keycaps for you; would cost about the same as Taobao I think once you factor in Taobao proxying and shipping.

As this keycap selling thing is very time consuming I am going to close shop by the end of the year and put everything not sold into storage. I've already more or less settled on my ideal keyboard and am merely awaiting my Brother label printer to be delivered.

I tried looking through your thread, a lot of the abbreviations don't mean a lot to me at the moment.
The image you messaged me of the replacement enter key looks great, I was mostly just a little concerned as I'd found the g7 doesn't actually have a standard ISO key.

I'd be interested in a proper quote on a full set (usd is fine), though I'd like a shot of them before purchasing tbh as I have not liked some of the num pad sets I've seen.

Or if that's too much to put together, I would definitely like to get hold of that enter key so I could buy any other ISO or ANSI set.

I do live in the UK though, so I hope it's not too much of a bother to post there.

Many many thanks.



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It's too much trouble to keep explaining the same things to a newbie, but suffice it to say, DCS, SA, OEM, Cherry and DSA are all names for different profile types. Broadly speaking, when starting out you want to get everything the same profile type, just so that there is consistency in the heights of the keycaps.

I personally use several profile types on my keyboard, but that's because I need the different profiles in order to find my way around the keyboard by touch. If you used a matrix keyboard like me you might agree, since putting my hand the wrong way on this keyboard means a lot of nonsense will get typed.

Post or PM your keyboard needs to me (eg picture) and I'll try to build something that will fit. You should have your own spacebar but I'll try to build a complete set of whatever you want for you.

btw did you name yourself after the manga character from Shinrin Tantei Yakumo?
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Re: ISO PBT Doubleshot for Steelseries 6g/7g
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 25 November 2014, 21:57:24 »
DCS, SA, OEM, Cherry and DSA are all abreviations I knew or got from http://www.keycapsdirect.com/key-caps.php , I was a bit lost on CCnG and WYSE, POS, YOTS and some others but I didn't need explanations but thanks for your time, as I'd just like whatever is close a match to the original set as possible just with PBT as I don't like the fact that the surface of my keys has gone all slick now and the lettering has come off.

I particularly would like the numpad keys to have home, the arrows, PgUp etc under the numbers, as I've seen sets that have that and some that don't, if that's not possible then I'll probably just get the Ducky set I've seen that has the right look, as I've found it for £30 in the UK ( ~47 usd)

7g pics :
http://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/steelseries_7g_keyboard_04.jpg
http://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/steelseries_7g_keyboard_03.jpg
http://magaza.dp-gaming.org/pictures/20141031152820_7gg.jpg


No, I took Yakumo from 3x3 eyes, many many years ago as it made me laugh and suited the games I was playing when it first came out, and it just stuck.
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Re: ISO PBT Doubleshot for Steelseries 6g/7g
« Reply #13 on: Wed, 26 November 2014, 00:55:32 »
DCS, SA, OEM, Cherry and DSA are all abreviations I knew or got from http://www.keycapsdirect.com/key-caps.php , I was a bit lost on CCnG and WYSE, POS, YOTS and some others but I didn't need explanations but thanks for your time, as I'd just like whatever is close a match to the original set as possible just with PBT as I don't like the fact that the surface of my keys has gone all slick now and the lettering has come off.

I particularly would like the numpad keys to have home, the arrows, PgUp etc under the numbers, as I've seen sets that have that and some that don't, if that's not possible then I'll probably just get the Ducky set I've seen that has the right look, as I've found it for £30 in the UK ( ~47 usd)

7g pics :
http://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/steelseries_7g_keyboard_04.jpg
http://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/steelseries_7g_keyboard_03.jpg
http://magaza.dp-gaming.org/pictures/20141031152820_7gg.jpg


No, I took Yakumo from 3x3 eyes, many many years ago as it made me laugh and suited the games I was playing when it first came out, and it just stuck.
I know a lot of modern series, (and have read and seen all of Berserk to date! :-)  ), but not that one.


 CCnG and WYSE, POS, YOTS
That refers to the Cream Cheese and Green Group Buy, the keyboards by WYSE company, Point of Sale Keyboards and Ducky's Year Of The Snake series.

You have an excellent deal on the Ducky set and should buy it. Be aware that the legends will not look so vibrant because these are backlit keycaps.

I should just sell you one keycap, the bigass enter, for $4 shipped. Pay by donation to dorkvader. I will PM you his address.

The bigass enter keycap is $2, postage and handling $2. S&H will be the same for the first few keycaps. I have new Ducky backlit red WASD keycaps for $5 and they can go in the same shipment without additional shipping costs.
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Re: ISO PBT Doubleshot for Steelseries 6g/7g
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 26 November 2014, 01:45:31 »
that is big ass you can contact SP
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Re: ISO PBT Doubleshot for Steelseries 6g/7g
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 27 November 2014, 14:57:58 »
Sorted, I think, Berserkfan is sending me a big ass enter and some extras, and I've ordered a ducky PBT set.

Laser engraved.
I nearly went for the PBT+POM set, but I'm not actually convinced I'd ever get round to modding in a backlight.

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Re: ISO PBT Doubleshot for Steelseries 6g/7g
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 27 November 2014, 20:53:15 »
Sorted, I think, Berserkfan is sending me a big ass enter and some extras, and I've ordered a ducky PBT set.

Laser engraved.
I nearly went for the PBT+POM set, but I'm not actually convinced I'd ever get round to modding in a backlight.

I killed an expensive new keyboard's backlight a few months ago while modding and couldn't fix it. So yeah, this is not something you want to just jump in and do.
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Re: ISO PBT Doubleshot for Steelseries 6g/7g
« Reply #17 on: Fri, 28 November 2014, 06:54:54 »
Arg, steelseries spacebar is the same size as the ducky one, but the support pins are much closer in I can't use the ducky :(


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Re: ISO PBT Doubleshot for Steelseries 6g/7g
« Reply #18 on: Fri, 28 November 2014, 07:04:28 »
Arg, steelseries spacebar is the same size as the ducky one, but the support pins are much closer in I can't use the ducky :(


Don't worry about that, I haven't sent you the bigass enter yet. I'll just send you a couple of flawed keycaps as well, you can cut them up and use the stems on your spacebar in the famous bluetack mod. If you can't do it I'm sure CPTBadAss will be glad to teach.
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Re: ISO PBT Doubleshot for Steelseries 6g/7g
« Reply #19 on: Fri, 28 November 2014, 07:35:47 »
Thanks man, the rest has gone so well, they're SO much nicer than the ABS.

I'm going to try and see if I can find a real PBT space that fits too as well anyway though.

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« Reply #20 on: Fri, 28 November 2014, 10:22:59 »
Thanks man, the rest has gone so well, they're SO much nicer than the ABS.

I'm going to try and see if I can find a real PBT space that fits too as well anyway though.

Ask around for the universal spacebar and confirm it with people that it will fit steelseries. Most people have PBT universals, including me, but I don't have a black one to sell. You shouldn't need to pay over $5 or 6 for one.
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Re: ISO PBT Doubleshot for Steelseries 6g/7g
« Reply #21 on: Sun, 30 November 2014, 06:13:00 »
I tried messaging qtan about it on Friday as a lot of posts seem to suggest that's the way to go, but no reply as of yet.

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Re: ISO PBT Doubleshot for Steelseries 6g/7g
« Reply #22 on: Sun, 07 December 2014, 05:23:02 »
I think I've sorted everything thank's to a friend that can deal with ordering from china :)

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Re: ISO PBT Doubleshot for Steelseries 6g/7g
« Reply #23 on: Tue, 09 December 2014, 21:26:30 »
hmm, I've had the S9C3-S105-UKPLA Ducky set (PBT laser etched) set purchased from http://www.overclockers.co.uk/ all of 12 adys. and my S and D key leting has gone almost totally black, wtf ? this is insanely worse than the original ABS keys.

It doesn't seem to want to clean off, I'm worried about trying surgical spirit or isopropyl on it to in case it makes things worse.
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