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Offline ZX Spectrum

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IBM Model M: 1390120 - 1390131 controller compatibility
« on: Fri, 21 December 2018, 05:42:02 »
seeing a lot of photage online gave me the impression that model m 1390120 has exactly the same controller as the 1390131.
jugging by  what it appears to me from the photage I do think that 1390120 controller even has the LED plastic pin-connector already installed on the controller pcb?

so it appears to me that 1390120 controller can easily be used to run 1390131 board without any effort at all

can anyone confirm this ??!!
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Re: IBM Model M: 1390120 - 1390131 controller compatibility
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 22 December 2018, 20:07:02 »
seeing a lot of photage online gave me the impression that model m 1390120 has exactly the same controller as the 1390131.
jugging by  what it appears to me from the photage I do think that 1390120 controller even has the LED plastic pin-connector already installed on the controller pcb?

so it appears to me that 1390120 controller can easily be used to run 1390131 board without any effort at all

can anyone confirm this ??!!

I can't confirm that, but I do know you can use a 1391401 controller on most every IBM Model M terminal 101/102-key keyboard.
https://imgur.com/a/O7ayY
https://imgur.com/a/bBFuv
https://imgur.com/a/iNjFR
https://imgur.com/a/akDm6
Enjoy!

(Essentially, including the 1390120; which is just a 1390131 without LED's).
Swap, drill a few holes, connect the wires, put on the overlay and done.

It is a bit more expensive to go this route if you decide to do it, but well worth it.
Plus you are saving a keyboard that essentially would be considered useless and thrown out.

AND:
If it were me, I would just try it and see if the LED's work with that controller. You answered your own question.
If it doesn't work, no big deal.
If it does work, you're good.
« Last Edit: Sun, 23 December 2018, 09:52:46 by Snowdog993 »

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Re: IBM Model M: 1390120 - 1390131 controller compatibility
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 23 December 2018, 15:25:51 »
do you have those photos on somewhere else other than imgur
imgur is blocked where i live right now

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Re: IBM Model M: 1390120 - 1390131 controller compatibility
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 23 December 2018, 19:31:37 »
do you have those photos on somewhere else other than imgur
imgur is blocked where i live right now

There is another thread somewhere on here jdcarpe or Rowdy may know where it is. The pictures are too big to do a direct upload....
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Re: IBM Model M: 1390120 - 1390131 controller compatibility
« Reply #4 on: Sat, 29 December 2018, 01:47:30 »
Found this, if it's of any help.
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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