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Offline w00tzorz656

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Keyboard Keys that don't send scan codes
« on: Fri, 20 February 2015, 18:35:42 »
I own several key caps that have keys that do not support any kind of scan code. Is there any way to get this to work? For instance, I am currently typing this on a Apple II Keyboard but it has the big, "power button" at the top which doesn't work as well as a "num equals" and a "§" that doesn't work.

I have tried using different programs like Auto Hot Key, and even tried adding them through the registry but it doesn't send a scan code so I can't really work with it.

Any help would be appreciated, I have like 6 keyboards that do this now, ARGH!

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Re: Keyboard Keys that don't send scan codes
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 21 February 2015, 03:04:54 »
Apple II Keyboard, or Apple Keyboard II ?
Also, which language layout? (US and UK can be different)

I assume that you are using some kind of converter... Which one? The problem is probably in that one: either it doesn't translate the Apple keyboard's code or it translates to an unusual code that is not recognized on the host side.
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Re: Keyboard Keys that don't send scan codes
« Reply #2 on: Sat, 21 February 2015, 07:08:05 »
Does Switch Hitter tell you anything?

http://elitekeyboards.com/switchhitter.php
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Offline w00tzorz656

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Re: Keyboard Keys that don't send scan codes
« Reply #3 on: Sat, 21 February 2015, 16:40:01 »
Thank you for the reply and sorry if I left out some detail.  I am using an Apple Keyboard II although if you want some other keyboards that do this I would be happy to list them.

And yes I have used programs like switchhitter and many other program similar, including a very helpful AHK script that I was able to use to map some keys that couldn't be detect but did indeed send scan codes. However all programs I use don't seem to be able to pick up anything it seems as though the keys just don't work at all.  There has to be a way to get these keys to work or at least map them to something.

As for the language of the keyboard I am using standard US qwerty
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Re: Keyboard Keys that don't send scan codes
« Reply #4 on: Sat, 21 February 2015, 16:52:10 »
This is an Apple ADB keyboard connected to a PC — how are you accomplishing this?

I was going to verify your findings, but it seems my iMate has died.
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Offline w00tzorz656

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Re: Keyboard Keys that don't send scan codes
« Reply #5 on: Sat, 21 February 2015, 17:29:14 »
Your way is my way.  I am using an iMate as well.  I have connecting the keyboard to the iMate and then the USB to my computer.  When I hit the buttons on the keyboard that do not work the iMate shows a small light that turns on as long as the key is being suppressed meaning that it is sending SOME kind of signal.

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Re: Keyboard Keys that don't send scan codes
« Reply #6 on: Sat, 21 February 2015, 17:56:46 »
Ignoring mistakes such as the lack of a window title in alt+tab, messed-up program icon, and a restore button in the title bar that does nothing …

I do have to wonder if Switch Hitter ignores keys that the OS doesn't recognise, or whether Windows itself simply drops the requests at a lower level than Switch Hitter is running at, especially since Switch Hitter doe. I connected my Tactile Pro 3, and Switch Hitter recognises volume up, down and mute, but it doesn't register the eject key. Otherwise it behaves as a perfectly ordinary Windows keyboard, and § produces ` which is what's printed on the key in my layout. F14 is scroll lock, for example.

You say that you have 6 keyboards that do this — are any of them full size? If you've got a full-size one (AEK/AEK II/AppleDesign) with F13–F15, do those three register as print screen/scroll lock/pause as on a PC keyboard?
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Offline w00tzorz656

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Re: Keyboard Keys that don't send scan codes
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 22 February 2015, 22:53:15 »
Yes in fact I do, I have a keyboard that goes from F1 - F20.  There are several keys that don't work on that one, for instance it has a, "DO" key that does nothing and several of the, "F" keys register as nothing as well.  And yes, to answer your question the last three (F20, F19, and F18) do send keys like, break, print screen, etc

I will have to dig it out if you want a model though  :rolleyes:

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Re: Keyboard Keys that don't send scan codes
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 23 February 2015, 01:51:32 »
You can build Hasu keyboard converter for ADB and use all the keys on your keyboard you want. And remap it how you want.
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