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Offline tototo

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Lenovo ThinkPad Compact Bluetooth Keyboard with TrackPoint
« on: Mon, 02 February 2015, 03:12:33 »
Does anybody have experience of this? Sometimes you just want to relax and laptype but as the Tex Yoda is still not programmable and I am forced to use Windows at work there are very few options as I need to have a mouse in easy reach. If only windows allowed other window mangers a lot would be won.

I've never used thinkpads so do not know what to expect though they have been regarded decent keyboards with great trackpoints from what I gather (even if the accessories like this are claimed to not have an equally good feel). In no way do I think it will outfeel the current poker with alucasing but as a supplementary board for lazy typing i want something with the mouse close at hand.

Any strong reasons not to get it?

http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/itemdetails/0B47189/460/60AC6A0372B14F5BA7B12F1FF88E33C7
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Re: Lenovo ThinkPad Compact Bluetooth Keyboard with TrackPoint
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 02 February 2015, 09:57:11 »
I have been using a thinkpad with track point since two years now. The keyboard is awesome, crispy, responsive, full size. However the track point is something I have never been accustomed to, I always need a mouse. It is usable, but I wont depend on it, only for those occasions a mouse is just not convenient, as when I travel.

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Re: Lenovo ThinkPad Compact Bluetooth Keyboard with TrackPoint
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 02 February 2015, 10:06:49 »
I have one as my travel keyboard and it's the best chiclet board I've used... nicely spaced and snappy keys, and although I don't use the trackpoint much it's useful to have when I'm lap typing and can't be bothered with a mouse. Rechargeable battery is nice and seems to last for ever, connection is solid, but there's no indication of the battery level.

Thinkpad keyboards are not what they once were, but they're still among the best IMO in terms of key travel and feel. Still can't touch a mechanical tho, but they are nearly silent which is refreshing.

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Re: Lenovo ThinkPad Compact Bluetooth Keyboard with TrackPoint
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 11:00:54 »
Thank you for the opinions Sirs. I have now ordered one. Like you I do not use a trackpoint as main mouse input but it can be really convenient to have sometimes. More and more so as I travel with a TouchStyk (tm HP's version) laptop and at work/home miss the nub at times. Particularly lazytyping.

On the other hand, you have to wonder about the level of lazy when moving your hand 5" to reach a mouse is enough of an effort to annoy you. :)
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Re: Lenovo ThinkPad Compact Bluetooth Keyboard with TrackPoint
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 11:19:36 »
Been on the fence about this thing for a while now, I think this thread just pushed me over the edge to buying one.

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Re: Lenovo ThinkPad Compact Bluetooth Keyboard with TrackPoint
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 11:26:21 »
I have been on the fence for ages, too.

The keyboard appears to be the same as that used in some of their laptops I have tried and very much liked.

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Re: Lenovo ThinkPad Compact Bluetooth Keyboard with TrackPoint
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 11:35:20 »
It actually looks pretty good.  I have a Lenovo 888015122 Bluetooth Tablet Keyboard, and it works okay, but the tablet channel leaves a little to be desired.  If I move the keyboard a bit, the whole tablet falls out of the channel.  I just use a separate stand for it when I use it.  It's okay, but I actually like the Logitech Bluetooth Keyboard for Windows and Android better.  The keys feel more tactile than the Lenovo, and the case for it doubles as a stand.  Very portable and functional.
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/tablet-keyboard-android-win8-rt?crid=26
Just my two cents.  Of course both don't have a trackpoint, I just use a bluetooth mouse with them.

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Re: Lenovo ThinkPad Compact Bluetooth Keyboard with TrackPoint
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 16:49:24 »
The keyboard appears to be the same as that used in some of their laptops I have tried and very much liked.

As far as I can tell it's identical to the keyboard on my Thinkpad T440p, but without a backlight
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Re: Lenovo ThinkPad Compact Bluetooth Keyboard with TrackPoint
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 04 February 2015, 08:45:54 »
I ordered the USB version of this keyboard because there were a lot of reviews mentioning connectivity issues. I set my personal best WPM on it. It's a little more sensitive than I'm used to but it doesn't take me long to get adjusted. I love the shape of the keys and the TrackPoint.

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Re: Lenovo ThinkPad Compact Bluetooth Keyboard with TrackPoint
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 05 February 2015, 00:14:22 »
Well, I've never tried this keyboard, but I'm using a ThinkPad T540p, if they feel exactly same, this is not worthy for the money

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Re: Lenovo ThinkPad Compact Bluetooth Keyboard with TrackPoint
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 10 February 2015, 05:20:51 »
Initial impressions after some 20 minutes of use.

1. Dimensions
Being so used to the PokerII I have a difficult time positioning the hands properly. End up on the wrong row based on where the palm touches the edge.

2. Nub
After installing the drivers the nub was good and the drivers enable independent settings for the TouchStyk and TrackPoint both. Particularly good as they behave and respond very differently to touch.

3. Fn key
I have never liked the Fn key in bottom left position, where Ctrl normally is). The drivers to not allow changing this so I appear to be stuck with fumbling for the Ctrl key.

4. Layout
Will take some time getting used to. Those extra keys are not in the muscle memory and the positioning of the arrow keys is not familiar.

I need to finalize a Thinkpad version of my PokerII.ahk scipt before I can use it more regularly and work with the shortcuts and Fn layer I want. Best outcome is actually Tex getting its act together and releasing programmable firmware for the Yoda.
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Re: Lenovo ThinkPad Compact Bluetooth Keyboard with TrackPoint
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 10 February 2015, 05:37:09 »
I bought a Thinkpad T430 as my primary laptop mid-2014. For a chiclet keyboard, it's quite nice. The positioning of the PgUp/PgDown buttons are a bit awkward for me, and I opted to use the option to reverse the Fn/Ctrl keys. I don't know what they were smoking.

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Re: Lenovo ThinkPad Compact Bluetooth Keyboard with TrackPoint
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 10 February 2015, 06:32:37 »
How does it feel typing on the best laptop keyboard?

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Re: Lenovo ThinkPad Compact Bluetooth Keyboard with TrackPoint
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 10 February 2015, 07:16:44 »
People using a Thinkpad keyboard feel a difference almost always. When someone tries the keyboard of my old Thinkpad - x61t - he or she always says something like, wow this thing feels nice.

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Re: Lenovo ThinkPad Compact Bluetooth Keyboard with TrackPoint
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 10 February 2015, 07:22:04 »
People using a Thinkpad keyboard feel a difference almost always. When someone tries the keyboard of my old Thinkpad - x61t - he or she always says something like, wow this thing feels nice.
I'll definitely vouched for this having used ThinkPads for almost 18 years. And I used to own a similar USB ThinkPad external keyboard. It is wonderful. I am not sure about Lenovo branded one though. You definitely cannot compare to a mechanical keyboard but as far as chiclet keyboard, the ThinkPads are one of the best. Good choice!  :thumb:
 

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Re: Lenovo ThinkPad Compact Bluetooth Keyboard with TrackPoint
« Reply #15 on: Tue, 10 February 2015, 07:47:01 »
People using a Thinkpad keyboard feel a difference almost always. When someone tries the keyboard of my old Thinkpad - x61t - he or she always says something like, wow this thing feels nice.
I'll definitely vouched for this having used ThinkPads for almost 18 years. And I used to own a similar USB ThinkPad external keyboard. It is wonderful. I am not sure about Lenovo branded one though. You definitely cannot compare to a mechanical keyboard but as far as chiclet keyboard, the ThinkPads are one of the best. Good choice!  :thumb:

My Poker with reds is always a better alternative to the Thinkpad keyboard. I use the lap top keyboard only when I am away from my desk. Also, the trackpoint is ok for occasional use, but for serious work a portable mouse is always preferred.

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Re: Lenovo ThinkPad Compact Bluetooth Keyboard with TrackPoint
« Reply #16 on: Tue, 10 February 2015, 13:03:50 »
To add my support, I recently purchased a T440s a few months ago. For a laptop keyboard, I'm incredibly happy. The keys are very snappy and crisp. yummy