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Offline TacticalCoder

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Re: What do you think about the HHKB free spaces at its bottom corners?
« Reply #50 on: Wed, 07 October 2015, 10:57:39 »
They are wasted spaces? Ok, under what logic?

I looked at my HHKB and was like "which wasted space!?"

Oh, right, I've got that HHKB Pro JP (which totally rocks BTW -- tiny spacebar FTW and many modifiers easibly reachable with the thumbs FTW too).

Ain't the "logic" here simply that the HHKB Pro JP and HHKB Pro 2 have nearly the same case?
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Offline Macsmasher

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Re: What do you think about the HHKB free spaces at its bottom corners?
« Reply #51 on: Wed, 07 October 2015, 14:10:09 »
WASD is not the holy grail gaming configuration. I FPS game with left-handed mouse, so my movement cluster is OKL: on the right side of the keyboard (I'm right-handed btw). Every game allows you to change key bindings for a reason. I understand that most guys are left hand on the keyboard. However, moving over just one row, say ESDF, provides more keys that you can assign functions to. And it is arguably better because you have the bump on the F key for your index finger, allowing you to find your movement cluster without looking. Seriously, I don't understand the resistance to changing from WASD. I guess the only reason to stay with WASD would be if you had custom keycaps for that cluster. And if you replaced the F key with the Topre four key replacement set for example, you'd lose your F key bump.

Offline NewbieOneKenobi

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Re: What do you think about the HHKB free spaces at its bottom corners?
« Reply #52 on: Thu, 08 October 2015, 15:41:07 »
My first inclination was with wasted space, but I realized that was exactly where I allowed my hands to rest sometimes, the bases of my small fingers. I press a lot of keys there with the side of my palm rather than with a finger, especially in combinations, and to some extent this also goes for left ALT (like in ALT+F4). I would probably be using left CTRL for support if it didn't move. :P Hence, I think the solid, stable ground there on which to rest that part of your palm may be very important pivot in the typic dynamics of your hands. Perhaps also ergonomy, as in enabling you to use young fingers in a bit similar way to how it's done on MS Natural or Curve or Logitech Wave (30º rather than the traditional 90º).

To get an illustration try pressing and holding CTRL+Q with just your left hand. You should then see what I mean.
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Offline hoz

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Re: What do you think about the HHKB free spaces at its bottom corners?
« Reply #53 on: Fri, 09 October 2015, 20:37:25 »
i think i like it, especially accompanied by iso left shift to get "100%" iso functionality, building another wkl.kr hhkb up this week hopefully :)
the keys gone are keys i hate using in their original position anyway.


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Re: What do you think about the HHKB free spaces at its bottom corners?
« Reply #54 on: Tue, 13 October 2015, 16:10:12 »
Old layout,  antiquated design,  rubber dome,  meh
Keyboard error F1 to continue.

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Re: What do you think about the HHKB free spaces at its bottom corners?
« Reply #55 on: Tue, 13 October 2015, 16:51:06 »
Old layout,  antiquated design,  rubber dome,  meh

Hehe, the HHKB fans will crucify you.

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Re: What do you think about the HHKB free spaces at its bottom corners?
« Reply #56 on: Tue, 13 October 2015, 16:51:44 »
Old layout,  antiquated design,  rubber dome,  meh

Old layout - uses tkl  :p

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Re: What do you think about the HHKB free spaces at its bottom corners?
« Reply #57 on: Tue, 13 October 2015, 17:08:31 »
Old layout,  antiquated design,  rubber dome,  meh
 
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Offline hoz

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Re: What do you think about the HHKB free spaces at its bottom corners?
« Reply #58 on: Tue, 13 October 2015, 17:10:03 »
Old layout,  antiquated design,  rubber dome,  meh

what's new about the poker and a tkl? oO_
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Re: What do you think about the HHKB free spaces at its bottom corners?
« Reply #59 on: Tue, 13 October 2015, 17:11:27 »
Old layout,  antiquated design,  rubber dome,  meh

Hehe, the HHKB fans will crucify you.

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Re: What do you think about the HHKB free spaces at its bottom corners?
« Reply #60 on: Wed, 14 October 2015, 04:50:36 »
Old layout,  antiquated design,  rubber dome,  meh

Them's fightin' words! :p
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