Author Topic: Question regarding Cherry G80-3000 keyboard. (Read 3589 times)

liorde · « **on:** Wed, 04 November 2009, 07:08:19 »

Hello everyone.

I would like to know if you have heard of a Cherry G80-3000 model with white switches.
I know of black brown and blue.

What do you think?

Thank-you.

itlnstln · « **Reply #1 on:** Wed, 04 November 2009, 07:54:03 »

I don't know of any with white switches (it would have to be quite old as whites have been discontinued for a long time). There are a few European members that have some with clear switches, though, so they are out there, and maybe someone might know of a source.

liorde · « **Reply #2 on:** Wed, 04 November 2009, 08:06:22 »

Well..

The reason I am asking this is because I made an order at the official importer of Cherry products, for the Black G80 with the BROWN switches. When the keyboard eventually arrived, it actually had white switches so the clerk told me. Since this is a pricy keyboard (around 100$) I would not want to buy Cherry fakes or copies or anything heavier then the black switches which I already have on my light grey G80-3000.
I have not seent he keybaord yet, this is only from what the person who ordered it told me.

What do you guys think ??

itlnstln · « **Reply #3 on:** Wed, 04 November 2009, 08:16:17 »

They would have to be clears (they do look white, though). The clears are fairly heavy, but I don't think they are quite as heavy as blacks. Ripster tried them out in his N52 mod (see the mods section for more info), and he really didn't like them. IIRC, he thought they felt a lot like ALPS switches, and they were very friction-y. If that is not something that would appeal to you, I would have them send it back, and get you the right one.

liorde · « **Reply #4 on:** Wed, 04 November 2009, 08:36:07 »

"Get you the right one ?"

Well, I told them what I wanted and it took around 1 month for this one to arrive.
The model number says: LQCEU-2
Could not find anywhere that can show me the switches.
Crap, can anyone find something about this ? Google images does not always return the correct image for search.

Thanks !

liorde · « **Reply #5 on:** Wed, 04 November 2009, 08:56:47 »

Thank-you Ripster

Saw the link, thank-you!
I just want to see an image of these before I go there.
To know what to expect...

Thaxll'ssillyia · « **Reply #6 on:** Wed, 04 November 2009, 08:58:51 »

The LQC (i have one myself) has "clear" switches (at least that they are called in the wiki), but they are white.

Edit: The switches of the LQC have an actuation force of 60cN and are tactile but not clicky.

Hakhu · « **Reply #7 on:** Wed, 04 November 2009, 09:04:21 »

When you compare the pdf linked to in the wiki (Link on page 5) with the current switch article on the Cherry website (Link at the bottom of the page), you'll notice that the order code for the brown switches is no longer included.

Also, none of the major online shops here in Europe carry the LXxxx G80s anymore. The only available G80 with tactile feel are LQxxx.

Seems like Cherry is no longer producing G80 with brown switches. Maybe not even the switches themselves (no idea).

Hakhu · « **Reply #8 on:** Wed, 04 November 2009, 09:11:51 »

Does that mean there never were G80s with brown switches except for that special order from DataCal?

liorde · « **Reply #9 on:** Wed, 04 November 2009, 09:30:49 »

Hi Ripster.

I ordered it at the same place I ordered the light grey (superb keyboard BTW but a bit lighweight, not the switches, the keyboard...), which is an official importer of Cherry switches, and such...
they do know what they are doing but I guess they did not knowthe fact about the brown switches...
The clerk said that he queried them for an English black keyboard and the only one available was this...

Thank-you for the help .

itlnstln · « **Reply #10 on:** Wed, 04 November 2009, 09:41:06 »

Unless the importer ordered a custom run, Cherry will usually only sell "stock" keyboards. DataCal orders whole runs of the brown version.

ernestrome · « **Reply #11 on:** Wed, 04 November 2009, 10:22:22 »

I just got an old white g80-3000HEMGB which also has cherry clears, and double shot keys.

I am liking it a lot so far.

keyb_gr · « **Reply #12 on:** Wed, 04 November 2009, 13:10:44 »

Quote from: Hakhu;130331

Does that mean there never were G80s with brown switches except for that special order from DataCal?

As far as G80-3000s are concerned, yes that's true. (The standard selection for G80-1800s is even smaller - blacks only.) Browns have only been standard fare on specialty boards (mostly POS boards like the G80-8xxx, or the old ergo boards of course), otherwise they're a special order item.

I like to think of clears as having sort of a "scissor switch" response with some extra travel tacked on. Bottoming these out hard is pretty much impossible, which is welcome if you have sort of a heavy touch otherwise.

Now what I would do if I'd ordered browns and gotten clears, hmm. Depends on the priorities I guess.

mike2h · « **Reply #13 on:** Wed, 04 November 2009, 13:46:06 »

wished i had a cherry blue or brown kb so i could see what ripster was talking about as far 'frictiony' goes. as the only 2 kb i have are clears & alps black(simp) i dont have any reference.
to me the alps seem grainy, but it is not bothersome or effects performance in anyway. the clears are grainy(perfect desription for that imo) but slightly less so than the alps. fwiw i like the clears feel & performance over the alps.
for me, if im typing fast or gaming, i barely feel the grainyness(sp?) in the alps & not at all in the clears.

ch_123 · « **Reply #14 on:** Wed, 04 November 2009, 14:06:29 »

I have no idea how the Cherry Clears are like, but I'd definitely prefer a Cherry Blue to a Black Alps. Are there any Alps switches that are lower in force compared with the Black Alps?

ch_123 · « **Reply #15 on:** Wed, 04 November 2009, 14:09:14 »

Interesting. I thought the White switches were meant to be heavier than the Black ones?

ch_123 · « **Reply #16 on:** Wed, 04 November 2009, 14:15:47 »

They're linear ones, right?

As for the Fukkas, how light are they?

mike2h · « **Reply #17 on:** Wed, 04 November 2009, 14:15:50 »

Quote from: ch_123;130390

Interesting. I thought the White switches were meant to be heavier than the Black ones?

see here- http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Mechanical+Switch+Keyboards+Sorted+By+Switch

Xero · « **Reply #18 on:** Wed, 04 November 2009, 17:20:27 »

where is everyone coming across these g80-3000 with clears? I'd gladly buy one of those in US ANSI...I have a feeling they're all UK layout though.

Xero · « **Reply #19 on:** Wed, 04 November 2009, 18:52:54 »

that gives me an idea....you could swap the switches on another g80-3000 with whites, since they are PCB mounted, you should theoretically be able to open them without de-soldering....if only getting g80-3000s wasn't such a pain (though i got mine at datacal which definitely has them in stock, its just I don't think I can tear apart a $100 keyboard so easily)

Hak Foo · « **Reply #20 on:** Wed, 04 November 2009, 19:18:45 »

Is it though:

* A brown G80 costs $40 more than a blue one?

* Datacal's prices are stratospheric, and a blue one would cost about $100 from them too?

microsoft windows · « **Reply #21 on:** Wed, 04 November 2009, 19:38:57 »

Are white and clear Cherries linear or tactile?

mike2h · « **Reply #22 on:** Wed, 04 November 2009, 21:40:54 »

clear are tactile, dont know about whites.

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