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Re: IBM Model M, Victoria, Australia
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 09 May 2016, 05:59:25 »
Missing 4 keycaps, but all the larger keycaps are there, including the space bar.

A nice project for someone.

Uses an SDL cable, so you can get one of Orihalcon's cables - costs more than the keyboard :))
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Re: IBM Model M, Victoria, Australia
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 09 May 2016, 09:19:17 »
Yeah, or you could mod it to be USB output without having to use a cable.

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Re: IBM Model M, Victoria, Australia
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 09 May 2016, 10:05:50 »
I would have thought that the 92G* was well into the attached-cable era.
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Re: IBM Model M, Victoria, Australia
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 18 May 2016, 07:46:10 »
Okay. So does anyone around Australia have a Model M cable sitting around that they are willing to sell to me?

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Re: IBM Model M, Victoria, Australia
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 18 May 2016, 21:45:05 »
Okay. So does anyone around Australia have a Model M cable sitting around that they are willing to sell to me?

Worst case scenario you could get one from: http://clickykeyboards.com/product-category/replacement-model-m-sdl-to-ps2-keyboard-cables/

orihalcon seems to be out of stock of the SDL to USB cable: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/USB-to-SDL-6-Pin-6ft-IBM-Lexmark-Unicomp-Model-M-Clicky-Keyboard-Cable-NEW-/271367683396

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Re: IBM Model M, Victoria, Australia
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 19 May 2016, 00:45:05 »
Clickykeyboards.com didn't have the replacement keys so I had to go with Unicomp for those. Thought I would just combine shipping with the cable from Unicomp too. Now just to see if it works...

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Re: IBM Model M, Victoria, Australia
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 19 May 2016, 01:32:01 »
I have a couple of extra SDL cables of the grey variety.  I'll start a private auction for you if you are interested in one.
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Re: IBM Model M, Victoria, Australia
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 19 May 2016, 04:02:42 »
Argh, wish I'd read this before ordering from Unicomp. Are you located in Australia?

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Re: IBM Model M, Victoria, Australia
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 19 May 2016, 05:09:29 »
Argh, wish I'd read this before ordering from Unicomp. Are you located in Australia?

I believe he's from Canada ayyyy

Shipping shouldn't hurt you too much m8 and gz on the Keyboard, I was eyeing it but... I already got a Model M  :blank:

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Re: IBM Model M, Victoria, Australia
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 19 May 2016, 07:54:47 »
haha, thanks. To be honest, I think it'll be a present for my brother, who just bought a new desktop computer. I'll probably never stop using the Model F that I got given for free.

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Re: IBM Model M, Victoria, Australia
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 19 May 2016, 08:11:02 »

I'll probably never stop using the Model F


Depending on how young you are, you might possibly wear it out before you die.
Citizens United violates the essence of what made America a great country in its political system. Now it’s just an oligarchy, with unlimited political bribery being the essence of getting the nominations for president or to elect the president.
So now we’ve just seen a complete subversion of our political system as a payoff to major contributors, who want and expect and sometimes get favors for themselves after the election’s over.”
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Re: IBM Model M, Victoria, Australia
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 19 May 2016, 08:11:54 »
Damn, I would've bought that and bolt modded it for someone to sell to

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Re: IBM Model M, Victoria, Australia
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 19 May 2016, 08:20:24 »

I'll probably never stop using the Model F


Depending on how young you are, you might possibly wear it out before you die.

If it gets worn out I'll just replace the broken parts... it seems that on here and deskthority there are new parts for everything...

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Re: IBM Model M, Victoria, Australia
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 19 May 2016, 21:46:47 »

I'll probably never stop using the Model F


Depending on how young you are, you might possibly wear it out before you die.


A Model F can wear out? :confused:
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

NEC APC-H4100E | Ducky DK9008 Shine MX blue LED red | Ducky DK9008 Shine MX blue LED green | Link 900243-08 | CM QFR MX black | KeyCool 87 white MX reds | HHKB 2 Pro | Model M 02-Mar-1993 | Model M 29-Nov-1995 | CM Trigger (broken) | CM QFS MX green | Ducky DK9087 Shine 3 TKL Yellow Edition MX black | Lexmark SSK 21-Apr-1994 | IBM SSK 13-Oct-1987 | CODE TKL MX clear | Model M 122 01-Jun-1988

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Re: IBM Model M, Victoria, Australia
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 19 May 2016, 22:01:08 »

I'll probably never stop using the Model F


Depending on how young you are, you might possibly wear it out before you die.


A Model F can wear out? :confused:
It may not wear out, but some maintenance is required to keep it in optimal condition.  Since I use my XT heavily and often for gaming, some keys simply don't ping but twang now.  Not that it's an actual issue of any importance (IBM didn't guarantee a ping from any key).

Argh, wish I'd read this before ordering from Unicomp. Are you located in Australia?

No, I'm not located in Australia.  Within the same Commonwealth, though. 
Keyboards owned: IBM Selectric | 3278 | 3101 | 5251 | Model F XT | AT | 122 (6110344) | Model M 1390120 | 1390131 | 1391472 | 1392464 (DisplayWriter SSK) | 1395100 (SSK) | Honeywell RD IBM 09F4230 | Leading Edge DC-2014 (Blue Alps) | Chicony 5891 (Monterey Blue) | E&E-101 (KPT Blue) | BTC 5100 | 5100C | 5369 | DEC VT100 (Hi-tek Linear) | Burroughs TP109 (Hall) | Realforce 87 (55g)

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Re: IBM Model M, Victoria, Australia
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 20 May 2016, 05:02:58 »
Heh. Well, shipping from Canada is similar to that from the USA. In any case, I'm still preserving the number of working Model M's in Australia by making this one work (and replacing the keys).

For the record, my XT F has all keys still pinging. I guess that might mean it has a lot more life left in it.

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Re: IBM Model M, Victoria, Australia
« Reply #17 on: Fri, 20 May 2016, 07:17:50 »

In any case, I'm still preserving the number of working Model M's in Australia


Just out of curiosity, I have no idea about shipping in Australia. Does your PO offer "flat rate" boxes like we have?

What would it cost to ship something the weight of a vintage IBM keyboard from, say, Sydney to Melbourne, and what to go all the way across to Perth?

In the US the short run would probably be in the $12-$14 range, and the flat rate box would be $19 to anywhere domestic. Without the flat rate it would probably be in the $20-$25 range coast-to-coast and maybe $25-$30 up to Alaska.
« Last Edit: Fri, 20 May 2016, 07:21:48 by fohat.digs »
Citizens United violates the essence of what made America a great country in its political system. Now it’s just an oligarchy, with unlimited political bribery being the essence of getting the nominations for president or to elect the president.
So now we’ve just seen a complete subversion of our political system as a payoff to major contributors, who want and expect and sometimes get favors for themselves after the election’s over.”
- Jimmy Carter 2015

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Re: IBM Model M, Victoria, Australia
« Reply #18 on: Fri, 20 May 2016, 09:07:58 »
Shipping within Australia is pretty much dependent on weight and dimensions rather than distance for the most part. That Model M cost $20.35 AUD to ship from Melbourne to pretty much anywhere in Australia, whether it's Perth or Sydney. Tasmania doesn't seem to cost extra either. International shipping hurts a lot though. That would be why I was looking for someone within Australia with a cable.

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Re: IBM Model M, Victoria, Australia
« Reply #19 on: Wed, 01 June 2016, 16:08:07 »
And the unicomp cables and keys have arrived. The keys definitely don't match, but the cable and keyboard work perfectly, and that's what matters the most.

My brother is now one of the converted. Now to keep him away from my F.