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Offline Sirgeorge

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Cheap custom injection mold making?
« on: Wed, 08 March 2017, 00:08:48 »
     So, I've been looking into the possibilities of the field of custom keycaps and I first decided to tackle the big one of actual new keycap molds. As it turns out, Signature Plastics will usually charge you about six grand per mold (ABS double shot machine variant). Of course, most people choose standard letters with some legend changes instead because doing that is way cheaper than doing what I'm suggesting and anytime someone wants a custom key like that...well...you just get an artisan type on the phone and put in an order.

     However, there may be a better way. See, the pricing information of custom molding is something I had to call SP in order to get. While I got them on the phone, I also asked them if they would be willing to take other people's molds and use those in their machines for manufacturing. They said that as long as you can meet their specific engineering standards, they would take in the molds and use them. Now, I didn't get as far as to ask them what those standards were because I haven't gotten that far into the process yet but now I know there is a way. Besides, you can get a generally good picture that it would require material and measurement specifications around the same as the rest of the industry so steel molds that fit within a specification of about a hundredth of a millimeter.

     This is all easy enough on paper but now comes the task of finding a cheap enough method of making such molds with those kinds of specs. My best guess as to what would fit would be SLS printing or Selective Laser Sintering printing for all those in need of the full name. Effectively, this can be summed up as metal 3D printing. If anyone else has any better ideas as to how to make high quality molds for cheap or where to get such services in the 3D printing world I'd like to know. I've got some contacts and sources as to where to find these guys but I'll need to dig that info back up so it'll take me a while. Regardless, it should be fun.

     

Offline Niomosy

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Re: Cheap custom injection mold making?
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 08 March 2017, 00:20:03 »
How accurate are the molds in this additive process going to be versus the standard reductive CNC process for mold making?

Offline Sirgeorge

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Re: Cheap custom injection mold making?
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 08 March 2017, 09:59:05 »
Last time I looked at it, we had gotten it down to the double digit micrometer scale so an industrial metal SLS machine is capable of creating the quality standards. I actually remembered a few people in my city who have access to these kinds of printers. I'd have to go and look around at who would be willing to do what. As for the CNC, I just suggested the SLS method because I thought it to be an easier one to look at but CNC could just as easily work. Who knows.

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Re: Cheap custom injection mold making?
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 08 March 2017, 18:44:57 »
New molds cost upward of 3k for a reason. Modern machinery operates at such a level because of the crazy standards for engineering.

Also: Consider the crap bag. Not every key they make comes out perfectly. This wastes valuable production time and effort.

I'm not a fan of trying to make cheap molds.
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Re: Cheap custom injection mold making?
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 08 March 2017, 19:03:27 »
What I'm wondering about is the molds that will result from SLS.  I see SLS being compared to injection molding more than SLS being used to create molds for injection molding.  The question that stems from this is whether SLS-created molds would stand up to heat the same way the steel or treated aluminum molds will.  Even then, those are replaced over time.

Offline Sirgeorge

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Re: Cheap custom injection mold making?
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 08 March 2017, 19:29:30 »
With over a decade in 3D printing experience let's just say that they've been slowly phasing out traditionally manufactured parts in aircraft for lighter and less material consuming 3D printed ones. So, yes. They can do it. However, since we are still in the relatively early transferring phase, most people still use standard milling and machining practices for making their molds. Thus, it costs an insane amount of cash to do it. However, with the rapid industrialization of 3D printing, we will find ourselves in a world where the cost for industrial grade molds are cheaper then the cost to modify legends today. All-in-all, the technology is still young, but anyone with access to such a printer can get a fairly banging deal in comparison with legacy methods.