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[GB] SA Arcane - Group buy OPEN - Last Week
« on: Tue, 09 April 2019, 04:26:49 »


Greetings traveler!

I'm pleased to announce that we are going to give the Arcane colorway another shot after it sadly fell through as a DSA set. This time I'll be focusing on one of the two colorways first, so SA Plague would follow after this is completed. The DSA buy was competing with itself so I want to avoid doing that this time.

Additionally I am skipping the IC phase for this one as the kits are pretty much final and vendors are set, and most of the required discussion was already had in the IC for the DSA version. Ergodox and such have been left out as they move very little units and can be quite expensive (40% and Ergodox kits can easily be 80$+ at low volumes for SA due to lots of mold changes required). So I am focusing on more standard layouts of this community. This doesn't mean you are forbidden from discussing the set until it launches of course, feel free to make conversation! I will remain making IC's for GMK sets and other bigger projects that require more input, don't worry.

Manufacturer: Signature Plastics

Vendors:

US: https://kono.store/products/sa-arcane
EU: https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/category/group-buys/sa-arcane_155/
ASIA: kbdfans taobao store: https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a2126o.11854294.0.0.2eb44831CbiC3N&id=592719002109

Prices:



MOQ:



Colors: BBJ (Blue), RDA (Purple) and WFK (White)

Ships: Q4 2019

Artwork and Novelties were done by my friend Gregor, and Engicoder and Biip gave the Novelties some final tweaks to make them production ready.


Kits:
















Keyboards:

Verne TKL by Zambumon




TGR Jane V2




Zambumon x Oblotzky Andromeda




TGR 910 Polycarb




Omega60 by Windeh




RAMA M60-A


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Re: [GB] SA Arcane - Launching very soon!
« Reply #1 on: Thu, 18 April 2019, 07:48:43 »
Approved.

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Re: [GB] SA Arcane - Launching very soon!
« Reply #2 on: Thu, 18 April 2019, 07:52:40 »
This is a pretty set. GLWGB!
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Re: [GB] SA Arcane - Launching very soon!
« Reply #3 on: Thu, 18 April 2019, 08:08:15 »
Wooo! Glad to see this running again and in a different profile.

Can we link to this from the old GB thread for all those watching?

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Re: [GB] SA Arcane - Launching very soon!
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 18 April 2019, 08:10:56 »
Wooo! Glad to see this running again and in a different profile.

Can we link to this from the old GB thread for all those watching?

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Yeah, good point. I'm currently coordinating with the vendors and expect this to launch next week. Will post with the firm date soon.

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Re: [GB] SA Arcane - Launching very soon!
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 18 April 2019, 09:51:27 »
Oh hell yeah! I love SA so much more than DSA!
edit: but no Colemak support nooooooo >_< I might still buy it if the price is right, but... noooooo
« Last Edit: Thu, 18 April 2019, 10:15:18 by sevenseacat »

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Re: [GB] SA Arcane - Launching very soon!
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 18 April 2019, 11:29:32 »
damn, i've kinda sworn off sa because i feel like it's so inefficient for typing even though it's my favorite looking style. i didn't join green screen because of it even though i thought that looked amazing. i probably still will get this. especially if dsa arcane/plague doesn't run again.

thanks for bringing this back oblotzky :)

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Re: [GB] SA Arcane - Launching very soon!
« Reply #7 on: Fri, 19 April 2019, 01:33:07 »
interesting novelties.
i'm in.

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Re: [GB] SA Arcane - Launches Friday April 26th
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 22 April 2019, 11:02:40 »
Update:

Launching this Friday, April 26th! Asian vendor will be kbdfans. Pricing will be shown in the coming days, just confirming the final numbers with kono.store currently.

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Re: [GB] SA Arcane - Launches Friday April 26th
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 22 April 2019, 11:39:15 »
Is it SP SA or Maxkey SA? Also lovely surprise and colour scheme.

Edit: Ignore plz. I need glasses.

In for base + numpad + alt colour
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Re: [GB] SA Arcane - Launches Friday April 26th
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 22 April 2019, 14:52:30 »
Its SP, any possibility of breaking up base in mods and alphas? Unless the kits are locked in?

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Re: [GB] SA Arcane - Launches Friday April 26th
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 22 April 2019, 14:53:52 »
Its SP, any possibility of breaking up base in mods and alphas? Unless the kits are locked in?

I don't see a point in doing so since there's no Planck/Ergodox kits anyways.

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Re: [GB] SA Arcane - Launches Friday April 26th
« Reply #12 on: Mon, 22 April 2019, 15:17:37 »
This looks amazing!

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Re: [GB] SA Arcane - Launches Friday April 26th
« Reply #13 on: Mon, 22 April 2019, 21:01:38 »
(Colemak kit plzzzz?)

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Re: [GB] SA Arcane - Launches Friday April 26th
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 23 April 2019, 12:44:42 »
Its SP, any possibility of breaking up base in mods and alphas? Unless the kits are locked in?

I don't see a point in doing so since there's no Planck/Ergodox kits anyways.

Being a bit cost conscious on my end given some SA Laser, GMK Striker, to come and Waves, Metropolis Skidata running, + your git mods being added to SA Laser. If its split, I will def go for alphas + numpad and if my budget allows mods, else I may have to forgo this, esp after SA Laser OBnet kit.

There are too many good sets being run in parallel, not good for my wallet and heart.

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Re: [GB] SA Arcane - Launches Friday April 26th
« Reply #15 on: Fri, 26 April 2019, 05:40:06 »
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Re: [GB] SA Arcane - Group buy OPEN
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 26 April 2019, 06:02:18 »
Love the novelties <3

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Re: [GB] SA Arcane - Group buy OPEN
« Reply #17 on: Fri, 26 April 2019, 11:49:06 »
Has a specific end date been set for this buy?

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Re: [GB] SA Arcane - Group buy OPEN
« Reply #18 on: Fri, 26 April 2019, 12:44:58 »
I don't understand the EU pricing. Base kit is much more expensive when converting USD to EUR compared to the other kits. The other kits are between 6% and 13% more expensive in EU, while the base kit is 32% more expensive. VAT in Belgium (where mykeyboard.eu is located) is 21% so one would expect all kits to have the price increased by this ratio. Is this a way to subsidize the other kits via the base kit or something like that?

For example, assuming 1 USD = 0.9 EUR, then the base kit that costs 99.99 USD is 89.99 EUR when converted directly. 89.99 / 119 = 1.32 more cost for the base kit. Novelties is 59.99 USD = 53.99 EUR, 53.99 / 60 = 1.13.

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Re: [GB] SA Arcane - Group buy OPEN
« Reply #19 on: Fri, 26 April 2019, 12:51:39 »
when will this run to? i am going to be a last day/week participant to delay the charge.

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Re: [GB] SA Arcane - Group buy OPEN
« Reply #20 on: Fri, 26 April 2019, 16:38:24 »
I don't understand the EU pricing. Base kit is much more expensive when converting USD to EUR compared to the other kits. The other kits are between 6% and 13% more expensive in EU, while the base kit is 32% more expensive. VAT in Belgium (where mykeyboard.eu is located) is 21% so one would expect all kits to have the price increased by this ratio. Is this a way to subsidize the other kits via the base kit or something like that?

For example, assuming 1 USD = 0.9 EUR, then the base kit that costs 99.99 USD is 89.99 EUR when converted directly. 89.99 / 119 = 1.32 more cost for the base kit. Novelties is 59.99 USD = 53.99 EUR, 53.99 / 60 = 1.13.

Shipping/import from SP (located in USA) to MKB (located in Belgium as you correctly pointed out) is added to the base kit price alone. I have the spreadsheet for the exact calculation of all the items and it makes sense if you saw all that info. Hope that helps shed light on things!

Has a specific end date been set for this buy?

when will this run to? i am going to be a last day/week participant to delay the charge.

About 4 weeks, a precise closing date will be announced later.

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Re: [GB] SA Arcane - Group buy OPEN
« Reply #21 on: Thu, 02 May 2019, 12:15:24 »
Orders as of 5/2:


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Re: [GB] SA Arcane - Group buy OPEN
« Reply #22 on: Thu, 02 May 2019, 12:21:00 »
Orders as of 5/2:

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Thanks Dvorcol  :thumb: If we keep pushing, I see this set hitting MOQ by the end of the GB. I'll be buying some extras myself to help as well. It's clearly far from the scale of say Laser, but I think it will be a very cool set to have down the road :) Thanks to everyone that joined already!

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Re: [GB] SA Arcane - Group buy OPEN
« Reply #23 on: Thu, 02 May 2019, 12:50:15 »
Orders as of 5/2:

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More orders for novelties than base? What?

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Re: [GB] SA Arcane - Group buy OPEN
« Reply #24 on: Thu, 02 May 2019, 12:56:32 »
Orders as of 5/2:

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More orders for novelties than base? What?

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I'm surprised myself, but someone in China really loves the novelties  :))

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Re: [GB] SA Arcane - Group buy OPEN
« Reply #25 on: Thu, 02 May 2019, 21:19:21 »
Shipping from Kono wasn't as bad as I thought - jumped in for base + novelties.

(And then impulse bought SA Granite while I was there. Whoops.)

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Re: [GB] SA Arcane - Group buy OPEN
« Reply #26 on: Thu, 02 May 2019, 21:23:02 »
for base kit price, price is quite difference between US price and CN price. Personally, I think CN proxy is too greed. It will block some CN players join this GB. Not all players know how to ship it via proxy.
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Re: [GB] SA Arcane - Group buy OPEN
« Reply #27 on: Fri, 03 May 2019, 03:15:58 »
for base kit price, price is quite difference between US price and CN price. Personally, I think CN proxy is too greed. It will block some CN players join this GB. Not all players know how to ship it via proxy.

Hey, I'm sorry to hear that. I don't really have insight into how high the cost of importing the sets from USA is so it's not really possible for me to say if their price is unjustified or not.  :-[ I've been talking with Wei to offer the set on their international store page after all, crossing fingers for that to be available very soon.

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Re: [GB] SA Arcane - Group buy OPEN
« Reply #28 on: Fri, 03 May 2019, 03:26:03 »
for base kit price, price is quite difference between US price and CN price. Personally, I think CN proxy is too greed. It will block some CN players join this GB. Not all players know how to ship it via proxy.

Hey, I'm sorry to hear that. I don't really have insight into how high the cost of importing the sets from USA is so it's not really possible for me to say if their price is unjustified or not.  :-[ I've been talking with Wei to offer the set on their international store page after all, crossing fingers for that to be available very soon.

Thanks for your kindly help on it. I knew that it is out of your control :)
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Re: [GB] SA Arcane - Group buy OPEN
« Reply #29 on: Thu, 09 May 2019, 23:37:16 »
Be good to see an update on numbers soon.

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Re: [GB] SA Arcane - Group buy OPEN
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Re: [GB] SA Arcane - Group buy OPEN
« Reply #31 on: Sun, 19 May 2019, 16:50:40 »
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Thanks for the graphs as usual  :thumb:

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Re: [GB] SA Arcane - Group buy OPEN
« Reply #32 on: Sun, 19 May 2019, 19:07:14 »
I'm a little concerned about the Specialties kit. Is end-date for the GB still next week?

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Re: [GB] SA Arcane - Group buy OPEN
« Reply #33 on: Sun, 19 May 2019, 23:09:16 »
I'm a little concerned about the Specialties kit. Is end-date for the GB still next week?

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The current plan is SA Arcane group buy ends 5/31.

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Re: [GB] SA Arcane - Group buy OPEN
« Reply #34 on: Fri, 24 May 2019, 14:53:09 »
One week left  ;D