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Offline jagger27

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[IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« on: Fri, 19 April 2019, 16:19:41 »
For my first interest check, I thought I'd keep it simple. I am looking to do a run of Colevrak in the GMK White on Black colorways.



Current uncertainties:
  • Barred homing (shown in pic)
  • Scooped homing (shown in pic)
  • Scooped & barred?
  • Include normal R3 keys for U, N, T?
  • Stepped Colemak Backspace?

Have I missed anything? Any other exotic layouts need of some love that weren't covered by NORDEUK++?

Looking forward to your feedback. Hopefully we can sneak this one in this year!
« Last Edit: Fri, 19 April 2019, 16:26:44 by jagger27 »


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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 19 April 2019, 16:22:15 »
Looks sick, can't wait till it runs   :thumb:

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 19 April 2019, 16:59:16 »
Cool! Good luck with your buy. Hope there's enough interest.
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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #3 on: Fri, 19 April 2019, 17:08:53 »
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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #4 on: Fri, 19 April 2019, 22:35:06 »
Interested!

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #5 on: Sat, 20 April 2019, 12:27:29 »
If there are any vendors who stumble upon this who would like to work with me on this, please get in touch!


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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 21 April 2019, 01:14:09 »
Awesome! Interested for sure!

It would be nice if it was possible to support other Colemak and Dvorak variations like the MT3 sets https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/massdrop-x-mito-mt3-godspeed-custom-keycap-set/FP/pRYVTW8eT3OGtucs7K4K_11%20-%20colevrak.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=max&w=412&h=501&dpr=3.5&q=14

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 21 April 2019, 01:37:10 »
If there are any vendors who stumble upon this who would like to work with me on this, please get in touch!
It's way easier to ask them: use the contact form on the vendor sites.

Offline equalunique

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 21 April 2019, 02:10:54 »
Also here is a special Dvorak version for German typists. A kit exists for it in the recently released DSA Ferrous. Link: https://simon.spruenker.de/dvorak

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 21 April 2019, 02:58:14 »

Offline jagger27

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 21 April 2019, 23:17:14 »
If there are any vendors who stumble upon this who would like to work with me on this, please get in touch!
It's way easier to ask them: use the contact form on the vendor sites.

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« Last Edit: Mon, 22 April 2019, 12:36:25 by jagger27 »


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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 22 April 2019, 01:24:14 »
Can you please look into supporting mod dh (colemak variant). I'm definitely interested (and would buy multiple sets) if it sorted mod dh

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #12 on: Mon, 22 April 2019, 11:53:23 »
Would definitely be in for this!

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #13 on: Mon, 22 April 2019, 12:36:00 »
Can you please look into supporting mod dh (colemak variant). I'm definitely interested (and would buy multiple sets) if it sorted mod dh

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Sure. Looks like it's only three more keys! That's what this interest check is for!

R2 B
R4 D, H

And no changes to the homing keys. Is this correct?


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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #14 on: Mon, 22 April 2019, 21:36:25 »


Can you please look into supporting mod dh (colemak variant). I'm definitely interested (and would buy multiple sets) if it sorted mod dh

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Sure. Looks like it's only three more keys! That's what this interest check is for!

R2 B
R4 D, H

And no changes to the homing keys. Is this correct?

That's right, the homing keys are the same.

If this works out, I will have to buy a gmk WoB set from somewhere!!!

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #15 on: Sun, 28 April 2019, 14:32:05 »
Definitely down for a few sets if the GB happens!

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #16 on: Sun, 28 April 2019, 16:45:34 »
I'll also most likely pick up a kit if it supported mod dh.

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #17 on: Sun, 28 April 2019, 19:36:59 »
If I buy this, will it help me learn Colemak?  :))

Maybe if this ever goes to GB I will get it as a commitment device...

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #18 on: Tue, 14 May 2019, 11:25:09 »
Might be worth expanding the kit a little more to support some other layouts too. On the MT3 Serika IC thread, they have added support for Colemak, Colemak DH, Colemak DHm, Dvorak, Workman, Norman, and Carpalx QGMLWY.

See: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=100489.msg2757949#msg2757949

Regardless of whether or not any new layouts are supported, I'm still interested - you already have my favorite one covered (Dvorak).

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #19 on: Tue, 14 May 2019, 11:27:12 »
Wooo Colemak bois we eatin!
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Offline nuclear_wizard

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #20 on: Thu, 06 June 2019, 16:42:41 »
Is this still in the works?

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #21 on: Thu, 06 June 2019, 18:43:06 »
No rh lh Dvorak support shm

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #22 on: Tue, 11 June 2019, 23:12:28 »
Good to know this was brought up, even though GMK MOQs are usually tough. Still possible if we're looking at 50 MOQ for this.

I don't have GMK WoB keyset, but I might be able to buy one or two to support.


     
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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #23 on: Wed, 12 June 2019, 00:42:35 »

Have I missed anything? Any other exotic layouts need of some love that weren't covered by NORDEUK++?

Looking forward to your feedback. Hopefully we can sneak this one in this year!

The NORDEUK++ kit has a R3 @` key but the ISO-UK Dvorak has a R2 @` key instead. Maybe that could be added?

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #24 on: Wed, 12 June 2019, 09:19:41 »
This is on hold for now. I haven't found a vendor and don't want to run it myself. I would definitely add as much exotic layout support as possible, so keep the suggestions coming!


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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #25 on: Wed, 12 June 2019, 10:06:52 »
 :thumb:

I just learned colemak a few weeks ago, in!

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #26 on: Wed, 12 June 2019, 10:16:41 »
Take a look at SA Laser and MT3 kits.

I am not sure if I will be in for WoB since I am not a fan of the look, but depending on price it could be interesting and I might support it just to get the molds made.

This will add support for Colemak DH and DHm:

R2 B
R3 M
R4 DH

Adding the following keys on top of this will also support Workman, Norman and Progammer's Dvorak:

R2: DK
R3: Y
R4: PL"

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #27 on: Fri, 14 June 2019, 23:54:21 »
Take a look at SA Laser and MT3 kits.

I am not sure if I will be in for WoB since I am not a fan of the look, but depending on price it could be interesting and I might support it just to get the molds made.

This will add support for Colemak DH and DHm:

R2 B
R3 M
R4 DH

Adding the following keys on top of this will also support Workman, Norman and Progammer's Dvorak:

R2: DK
R3: Y
R4: PL"

Adding mod dh support would be amazing for me. Instabuy if so.

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #28 on: Sun, 16 June 2019, 09:20:06 »
I have an idea on this which may or may not be a good one. Why not offer a complete alpha kit without the QWERTY keys we'd be throwing away, but with these keys added instead?

That way we could combine these alphas with a wide range of modifiers without having to buy the rest of GMK WOB.

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #29 on: Sun, 16 June 2019, 09:32:27 »
I have an idea on this which may or may not be a good one. Why not offer a complete alpha kit without the QWERTY keys we'd be throwing away, but with these keys added instead?

That way we could combine these alphas with a wide range of modifiers without having to buy the rest of GMK WOB.
I'm interested in this too.

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #30 on: Mon, 17 June 2019, 10:49:05 »
Quote
Scooped & barred?
I preferred both.


Offline equalunique

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #31 on: Mon, 17 June 2019, 16:50:50 »
Any chance of this running again but in GMK color code L9 for retro sets?

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #32 on: Mon, 17 June 2019, 16:57:16 »
Any chance of this running again but in GMK color code L9 for retro sets?

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Can't tell if /s, but the set hasn't run, and matching modern WoB sets is the whole point of this set...

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #33 on: Mon, 17 June 2019, 18:46:49 »
I have an idea on this which may or may not be a good one. Why not offer a complete alpha kit without the QWERTY keys we'd be throwing away, but with these keys added instead?

That way we could combine these alphas with a wide range of modifiers without having to buy the rest of GMK WOB.
I like the idea, but this got me thinking :I never bought gmk WoB in the first place, so I'd end up with the colemak compatibility without the rig colour compatibility.

What about offering the final kit in two or more alternative colours.

Eg. WoB
BoW
N9
U9

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #34 on: Tue, 18 June 2019, 23:48:11 »
I have an idea on this which may or may not be a good one. Why not offer a complete alpha kit without the QWERTY keys we'd be throwing away, but with these keys added instead?

That way we could combine these alphas with a wide range of modifiers without having to buy the rest of GMK WOB.
I like the idea, but this got me thinking :I never bought gmk WoB in the first place, so I'd end up with the colemak compatibility without the rig colour compatibility.

What about offering the final kit in two or more alternative colours.

Eg. WoB
BoW
N9
U9

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Full colevrak alpha sets would solve just about all my problems. Would have to buy a few at minimum.

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #35 on: Wed, 19 June 2019, 02:24:59 »
I have an idea on this which may or may not be a good one. Why not offer a complete alpha kit without the QWERTY keys we'd be throwing away, but with these keys added instead?

That way we could combine these alphas with a wide range of modifiers without having to buy the rest of GMK WOB.
I like the idea, but this got me thinking :I never bought gmk WoB in the first place, so I'd end up with the colemak compatibility without the rig colour compatibility.

What about offering the final kit in two or more alternative colours.

Eg. WoB
BoW
N9
U9

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I am absolutely interested in all of these options. Like I said in a previous post, I am not really a fan of WOB. It just reminds me of 1992 Dell rubber dome. I would absolutely buy N9/U9 without hesitation and BoW could be a great match on other kits as well.

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #36 on: Sat, 22 June 2019, 08:28:36 »
Take a look at SA Laser and MT3 kits.

I am not sure if I will be in for WoB since I am not a fan of the look, but depending on price it could be interesting and I might support it just to get the molds made.

This will add support for Colemak DH and DHm:

R2 B
R3 M
R4 DH

Adding the following keys on top of this will also support Workman, Norman and Progammer's Dvorak:

R2: DK
R3: Y
R4: PL"
I'd get this if these keys were added. Personally, I need R2 BDK and R4 H

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #37 on: Wed, 26 June 2019, 07:36:55 »
Are there mods for these keys for Colemak variants, Dvorak varients and Workman etc. layouts? Will it be too expensive if new mods are needed to produce these keys?

It helps the sale to add more keys. But I think OP should get quotes about the MOQs and prices, and check whether it will be too expensive to add these keys for a practical run. The colevrak kit usually just sells a few dozens of units. I'm afraid it's not easy for us to reach 150 or 250 MOQ like many GMK keysets did. Even if it's possible for us to run it at MOQ 50 for price $60/kit (refer to recent GMK Oblivion R2). But when more keys are added, there is a risk that the price goes too high and then hurts the sale.

I would like to support but I don't feel confident it would work out given how GMK keysets run. It's out of this thread, but I think it's more practical to make some Colemak kit for some keyset with low MOQ and proper price, e.g., SP SA Hyperfuse, etc. So that we Colevrak users could have more choices on different keyset themes rather than being limited to several popular GBs(most on Drop) with Colevrak support.
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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #38 on: Thu, 27 June 2019, 10:47:15 »
I have an idea on this which may or may not be a good one. Why not offer a complete alpha kit without the QWERTY keys we'd be throwing away, but with these keys added instead?

That way we could combine these alphas with a wide range of modifiers without having to buy the rest of GMK WOB.
I like the idea, but this got me thinking :I never bought gmk WoB in the first place, so I'd end up with the colemak compatibility without the rig colour compatibility.

What about offering the final kit in two or more alternative colours.

Eg. WoB
BoW
N9
U9

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GMK WoB is being offered again on Drop (formerly Massdrop) as of yesterday. I purchased a set specifically because this IC exists... don't let me down! haha

Link: https://drop.com/buy/gmk-white-on-black-custom-keycap-set

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #39 on: Thu, 27 June 2019, 10:52:31 »
in for two :)

Offline KingOfMemes

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #40 on: Thu, 27 June 2019, 10:53:12 »
I have an idea on this which may or may not be a good one. Why not offer a complete alpha kit without the QWERTY keys we'd be throwing away, but with these keys added instead?

That way we could combine these alphas with a wide range of modifiers without having to buy the rest of GMK WOB.
I like the idea, but this got me thinking :I never bought gmk WoB in the first place, so I'd end up with the colemak compatibility without the rig colour compatibility.

What about offering the final kit in two or more alternative colours.

Eg. WoB
BoW
N9
U9

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GMK WoB is being offered again on Drop (formerly Massdrop) as of yesterday. I purchased a set specifically because this IC exists... don't let me down! haha

Link: https://drop.com/buy/gmk-white-on-black-custom-keycap-set
Good find, just copped a set myself. Lets make this Colevrak set happen  :thumb:
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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #41 on: Wed, 03 July 2019, 19:55:46 »
This just came in

Let's make my dream come true, daddy  :-*
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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #42 on: Thu, 04 July 2019, 19:43:06 »
Made an account just to show my support. (Long time lurker) I'll be in for at least one, if it's all alphas I'll for sure get multiple sets

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #43 on: Fri, 05 July 2019, 01:19:00 »
I'm in, just to support a Colemak project.

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #44 on: Fri, 05 July 2019, 01:26:35 »
Nice project.

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #45 on: Wed, 10 July 2019, 05:41:15 »
Yes please. I'll get 4.

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #46 on: Fri, 26 July 2019, 13:00:53 »
I need this, I'll buy one no matter the price. Please run this

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #47 on: Fri, 26 July 2019, 13:42:46 »
I need this, I'll buy one no matter the price. Please run this

Lol every GMK starved coleverak user drooling at the mouth for this xD
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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #48 on: Fri, 26 July 2019, 14:48:13 »
Ummm yes please!! Would definitely buy this

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Re: [IC] GMK WoB Colevrak
« Reply #49 on: Sun, 28 July 2019, 05:25:08 »
Hi jagger this is a really awesome kit and I would like to see it succeed in the GB stage. My idea: so I'm running a GMK set that uses the same colours as this and if you want I think we can arrange with GMK to produce the 2 set in parallel and get the moq for this set lowered to 100 (maybe even lower) instead of the standard 150 units ;) the set is going to GB in 2 weeks from now

what do you think?