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Offline fireworm

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[IC] SA Blanks R2 - Feedback from R1?
« on: Fri, 26 April 2019, 19:20:01 »


As I wrap up R1, I'm interested in discussing R2 for SA Blanks.  R1 was all black w/ some white alphas. 

What do you want to see in R2?
Form Here.

Do you want do see more colors? PBT? More kits? Less kits? Nothing at all? 

No polls / forms yet, as I would rather get more candid feedback at this time.

Here's the details from R1:

More

Sculpted in 1-1-2-3-4-3

Colors are TBD.

Sets:
60's set
TKL set
40's set
Ergo set
Ortho set

Alpha Kits:
Alphas WFK
Alphas NN
Deep Dish WFK
Deep Dish NN
Deep Dish Alpha WFK
Deep Dish Alpha NN

Modifier Kits:
Standard Mods
65 Nav
40's
Ortho
Split Shifts
ErgoDox

Bottom Row:
Spacebar 7u
Spacebar 6.25u
Spacebar 3u
Split Space
Hybrid Bottom Row
Winkey Bottom Row
Winkey-less Bottom Row

Etc.:
F-Row / Nav (TKL)
Numpad
ISO Enter
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Offline rooney

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Re: [IC] SA Blanks R2 - Feedback from R1?
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 28 April 2019, 02:48:11 »
i'd love to keep on eye on this!

Re: [IC] SA Blanks R2 - Feedback from R1?
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 28 April 2019, 03:06:00 »
What are the prices of R1, just to understand if I'm interested in it and it's worth the risk of trying a new profile. Thanks.

Offline minaknits

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Re: [IC] SA Blanks R2 - Feedback from R1?
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 28 April 2019, 10:54:17 »
Split space keycaps in more colors, starting with a light neutral/white


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Offline Jurka

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Re: [IC] SA Blanks R2 - Feedback from R1?
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 28 April 2019, 10:58:48 »
If you can make SA PBT you have my attention for an ortho set.
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Offline ullr

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Re: [IC] SA Blanks R2 - Feedback from R1?
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 28 April 2019, 11:16:47 »
I'd probably be in for any other color but black since I got in on R1. red, yellow, white, and pink are what I'm most interested in.

Jurka brings up a good point, it may be worth talking to SP about doing PBT since they don't need to get the dye sub stuff figured out and they already have the molds. They may not be interested at this time, though.

Offline LuiKang

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Re: [IC] SA Blanks R2 - Feedback from R1?
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 28 April 2019, 13:40:51 »
Would be interested in thick PBT, preferably > 1.5mm. I'd like to see some colorful blank sets, either soft or vibrant colors.

Offline piit79

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Re: [IC] SA Blanks R2 - Feedback from R1?
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 28 April 2019, 14:15:51 »
Another +1 for PBT and more colours.

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Offline AaronR

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Re: [IC] SA Blanks R2 - Feedback from R1?
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 28 April 2019, 16:50:54 »
Sp PBT blanks are meant to be very expensive compared to abs.

Offline fireworm

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Re: [IC] SA Blanks R2 - Feedback from R1?
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 28 April 2019, 18:12:18 »
Sp PBT blanks are meant to be very expensive compared to abs.
Yes. I was gonna look toward the East... Though I worry about PBT spacebars warping...
Another +1 for PBT and more colours.

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PBT is an interest for sure.
Would be interested in thick PBT, preferably > 1.5mm. I'd like to see some colorful blank sets, either soft or vibrant colors.
Aka "not black", got it.
I'd probably be in for any other color but black since I got in on R1. red, yellow, white, and pink are what I'm most interested in.

Jurka brings up a good point, it may be worth talking to SP about doing PBT since they don't need to get the dye sub stuff figured out and they already have the molds. They may not be interested at this time, though.
Good. A return customer. :)  I'll double check PBT pricing w/ SP, but I think it's more expensive than ABS, due to their new tooling etc.
Split space keycaps in more colors, starting with a light neutral/white


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White was my first guess for next colors.
If you can make SA PBT you have my attention for an ortho set.
I'll look into PBT.
What are the prices of R1, just to understand if I'm interested in it and it's worth the risk of trying a new profile. Thanks.
TKL, which includes split space, split shifts, alphas, deep dish, frow / nav, WK, WKL, 6.25 & 7 spacebars (no ISO Enter, no numpad) was $99.

Other sets were cheaper (60s, 40s, ergo, ortho), check out the links in the description. You could also buy individual kits for cheaper.
i'd love to keep on eye on this!
;)

Driving the conversion forward, do you folks feel like colored accents plus a neutral base (gray / white / beige ala Mondrian) would be a good idea / bad idea?

Or a just a colored base set is better (pink / purple ala Grand Budapest for example)?
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Offline Jurka

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Re: [IC] SA Blanks R2 - Feedback from R1?
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 28 April 2019, 19:49:56 »
I've seen this on reddit a while back. I really dig all the colors and the the color combinations. Looks really nice.
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Offline fireworm

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Re: [IC] SA Blanks R2 - Feedback from R1?
« Reply #11 on: Sun, 28 April 2019, 21:34:33 »
I've seen this on reddit a while back. I really dig all the colors and the the color combinations. Looks really nice.
That is ..interesting...

I think it could be done with a few "alpha" accent (like Mondrian) kits

Alpha accent would be (say) 4x R1, 4x R2, 4x R3, 4x R4.

Offline ullr

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Re: [IC] SA Blanks R2 - Feedback from R1?
« Reply #12 on: Mon, 29 April 2019, 00:12:44 »
I am actually most interested in all one color blank sets.

Offline fireworm

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Re: [IC] SA Blanks R2 - Feedback from R1?
« Reply #13 on: Mon, 29 April 2019, 11:50:44 »
I am actually most interested in all one color blank sets.

Probably what will happen is:

I'll offer one color mods + alphas, an alt color for mods or alphas, and an accent color pack too.  I think accent colors could contain more than one color as well.

Pretty much what I did for R1, but adding an option for more colors is always nice.

Offline Minterly

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Re: [IC] SA Blanks R2 - Feedback from R1?
« Reply #14 on: Mon, 29 April 2019, 13:16:29 »
I would LOVE SA R3 blanks 🤤

Offline equalunique

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Re: [IC] SA Blanks R2 - Feedback from R1?
« Reply #15 on: Mon, 29 April 2019, 13:37:49 »


Driving the conversion forward, do you folks feel like colored accents plus a neutral base (gray / white / beige ala Mondrian) would be a good idea / bad idea?

Or a just a colored base set is better (pink / purple ala Grand Budapest for example)?

I'm sure there are others who would like colored base sets, but black/white is fine for me. The colored accents idea seems like a good one. Getting a colored accent key from SP today means buying 10 of them for $12+s/h. That's a lot if you only want 1 or a small number keys.

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Re: [IC] SA Blanks R2 - Feedback from R1?
« Reply #16 on: Mon, 29 April 2019, 13:49:22 »


Driving the conversion forward, do you folks feel like colored accents plus a neutral base (gray / white / beige ala Mondrian) would be a good idea / bad idea?

Or a just a colored base set is better (pink / purple ala Grand Budapest for example)?

I'm sure there are others who would like colored base sets, but black/white is fine for me. The colored accents idea seems like a good one. Getting a colored accent key from SP today means buying 10 of them for $12+s/h. That's a lot if you only want 1 or a small number keys.

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Yea, mine could be cheaper I think, though you wouldn't have 'free reign' over your colors (but SP's shop doesn't exactly offers a ton of choice either). 

I think the real issue is the other keys, e.g., 2.25u R3 (enter) 1.25u / 1.5u (ctrl alt), where you can't really buy 'one' from SP...

Maybe 'alpha' accents (for things like wasd / vim nav) and 'mod' accents is a good split.  Or just 'accent's with alpha and mods...  Hmm...

Offline fireworm

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Re: [IC] SA Blanks R2 - Feedback from R1?
« Reply #17 on: Mon, 29 April 2019, 16:58:31 »
I got prices for PBT from SP:  PBT Alphas are literally double the price of ABS.  :eek:  Other caps are about 30%+ more.  So all in all, slightly less than double the cost of the last GB.  I could probably drop prices a bit, but we are still looking at over $150 for a TKL Blank set.  :-X

And it doesn't look like they offer 7u PBT spacebars. 

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Re: [IC] SA Blanks R2 - Feedback from R1?
« Reply #18 on: Mon, 29 April 2019, 17:31:43 »
I'm in on any kit where I can get a row 3 1.75u WFK or two, even if it has like 30 other keys.
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Offline fireworm

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Re: [IC] SA Blanks R2 - Feedback from R1?
« Reply #19 on: Mon, 29 April 2019, 17:38:18 »
I'm in on any kit where I can get a row 3 1.75u WFK or two, even if it has like 30 other keys.

If we are doing WFK, it would be super easy.  Split Space kit had 2, plus a bunch of common split space bar caps (2u, two 2.25u, 2.75u).

Offline fireworm

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Re: [IC] SA Blanks R2 - Feedback from R1?
« Reply #20 on: Fri, 03 May 2019, 18:30:53 »
Got some PBT SA Caps off KBDFans:

They are warped.  What do you guys think?







Offline dragonfell

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Re: [IC] SA Blanks R2 - Feedback from R1?
« Reply #21 on: Sat, 04 May 2019, 17:14:18 »
Not much to say besides:

- not black
- if white, more cream/off-white
- am very partial to pink

Thank you! Typing on my UT47 with caps from R1 and they're great.

Offline AaronR

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Re: [IC] SA Blanks R2 - Feedback from R1?
« Reply #22 on: Mon, 06 May 2019, 19:26:48 »
It would be nice for international orders to partner with a us vendor that can get better shipping rates.

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Re: [IC] SA Blanks R2 - Feedback from R1?
« Reply #23 on: Mon, 06 May 2019, 23:35:05 »
I would LOVE SA R3 blanks 🤤

second this, would love to see all-r3 ergo/ortho sets.

Offline fireworm

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Re: [IC] SA Blanks R2 - Feedback from R1?
« Reply #24 on: Sun, 12 May 2019, 16:25:35 »
Not much to say besides:

- not black
- if white, more cream/off-white
- am very partial to pink

Thank you! Typing on my UT47 with caps from R1 and they're great.
You thinking more like Carbon / Godspeed cream, right? I'm tilting toward gray and pink.
It would be nice for international orders to partner with a us vendor that can get better shipping rates.
Yep.  I totally agree. No Asia proxy really did increase shipping costs for you folks. I don't know a cheaper shipping method from US to Asia, unfortunately. What Asia proxies do you typically use?
I would LOVE SA R3 blanks

second this, would love to see all-r3 ergo/ortho sets.
You aren't the only one, I could definitely offer R3 kits, the mod kits overlap with the split space, so not too many snowflake caps.

I generally need to tweak the kits. It was annoying for me to sort so many little bags, and I think confused some folks. For example, I'll likely add a 1.75u "shift" to the 65 kit.

The sets did end up being popular, and a good value for folks, so I might only offer a mods kit (std mods, WKL WK), FRow / 65, ortho, ergo, alphas, etc. Any thoughts on this?

Offline fireworm

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Re: [IC] SA Blanks R2 - Feedback from R1?
« Reply #25 on: Tue, 14 May 2019, 13:13:42 »
Form Here.

Offline fireworm

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Re: [IC] SA Blanks R2 - Feedback from R1?
« Reply #26 on: Tue, 18 June 2019, 18:31:19 »
Update results from that poll (so long ago):












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Re: [IC] SA Blanks R2 - Feedback from R1?
« Reply #27 on: Sat, 26 September 2020, 11:36:06 »
Will there be another round of this? Would love some blanks in NN (black) and SP basically has none in stock. And also a SA run of red riot too.


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Re: [IC] SA Blanks R2 - Feedback from R1?
« Reply #28 on: Sun, 22 November 2020, 22:29:25 »
Will there be another round of this? Would love some blanks in NN (black) and SP basically has none in stock. And also a SA run of red riot too.


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Probably not. Sorry to disappoint.

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Re: [IC] SA Blanks R2 - Feedback from R1?
« Reply #29 on: Sun, 22 November 2020, 22:32:42 »
Will there be another round of this? Would love some blanks in NN (black) and SP basically has none in stock. And also a SA run of red riot too.


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Probably not. Sorry to disappoint.
Darn. Thanks for the response though.


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