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GB SEPTEMBER 12TH

Vendors and pricing:

MOQ: 150
EU: https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/gmk-n9-ortholinear-add-on-kit_1238/ / Ä41.99
NA: https://olkb.com/parts/gmk-n9 / $46.99

This is a very simple modifier kit with N9 base and CP legends, meant to work with sets with white and beige alphas, and most sets with alphas that have white legends.

Why a modifier only kit? Well many GMK sets don't have ortholinear support and some of those that do don't even reach MOQ. This set is in N9 due to its broad compatibility with many different alphas. I have tried to keep this set as minimal as possible while making sure that it supports as many different ortholinear keyboards as possible.

Renders:

Planck with GMK Monochrome alphas


Planck with GMK Space Cadet alphas


Preonic with Cherry MX black switches



To do:
- get a quote from GMK done
- contact vendors done
- commission a proper render provided there is enough interest and the full kit's keys are decided commissioned, waiting for them to be done! done
- set a GB date done, 09/12

Special thanks to:
- Jack from olkb for expressing interest in this set very early on
- keeb.io doing likewise and offering to buy this set in bulk
- David and Yuliia from mykeyboard.eu for all the help and bearing with me and my countless questions about gmk
- Oblotzky for the lovely renders
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Re: [IC] GMK N9 Ortholinear Add-on Kit
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 28 May 2019, 11:03:08 »
While In the past few years some ortho sets may have had trouble reaching MOQ, I can't say I've seen a single run that hasn't hit its MOQ for Ortho/40% in recent GB's.

Ortho has a big following now. 

I do Like a lot of these "Mix and Match" add-on options that have been popping up though.  Lets people make there ideal set/colorway without blowing big $$$.

Basically what I'm saying is...I'd be in on this if it gets to GB.  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] GMK N9 Ortholinear Add-on Kit
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 28 May 2019, 11:15:42 »
While In the past few years some ortho sets may have had trouble reaching MOQ, I can't say I've seen a single run that hasn't hit its MOQ for Ortho/40% in recent GB's.

Ortho has a big following now. 

I do Like a lot of these "Mix and Match" add-on options that have been popping up though.  Lets people make there ideal set/colorway without blowing big $$$.

Basically what I'm saying is...I'd be in on this if it gets to GB.  :thumb:

Good to hear - and you're right. However, there are still a lot of sets that don't have ortho options so this kit should still be very helpful ;D

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Re: [IC] GMK N9 Ortholinear Add-on Kit
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 28 May 2019, 11:23:30 »
Have 2 40s/Ortho kits on the way, but I'd still be interested in picking up the N9 just for it's broad compatibility.

Re: [IC] GMK N9 Ortholinear Add-on Kit
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 28 May 2019, 11:39:52 »
Plenty of people can pick up terminal, eclipse, SkIIdata, GMK nines, etc and add these in for ortho without a jarring color difference too.

Cool idea

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Re: [IC] GMK N9 Ortholinear Add-on Kit
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 28 May 2019, 12:07:10 »
I'd be interested if it got expanded. You can't cater to all layouts, but it would be nice if there was an R3 tab and an additional R4 shift.

Two R4 1.5 keys would also cater to Corne, Atreus, etc.

I am also thinking full icon mods would be flexible when used with weeb alphas, often sold separately, allowing to skip an expensive base kit.

I joined the GMK blank GB for N9 mods, but they didn't make MOQ on Corne thumb keys, so I went with CR instead. Depending on the price I would be in for this.

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Re: [IC] GMK N9 Ortholinear Add-on Kit
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 28 May 2019, 12:43:00 »
I'd be interested if it got expanded. You can't cater to all layouts, but it would be nice if there was an R3 tab and an additional R4 shift.

Two R4 1.5 keys would also cater to Corne, Atreus, etc.

I am also thinking full icon mods would be flexible when used with weeb alphas, often sold separately, allowing to skip an expensive base kit.

I joined the GMK blank GB for N9 mods, but they didn't make MOQ on Corne thumb keys, so I went with CR instead. Depending on the price I would be in for this.

Thanks for the feedback - I appreciate it a lot. A R3 tab was intended, seems like I did two R2's by accident on the render and will fix that later.

As for the other extra keys - I will make a form in a couple days asking about extra keys and will be sure to include those.

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Re: [IC] GMK N9 Ortholinear Add-on Kit
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 28 May 2019, 12:43:48 »
Plenty of people can pick up terminal, eclipse, SkIIdata, GMK nines, etc and add these in for ortho without a jarring color difference too.

Cool idea

Thanks - N9 is a really great colour because of its broad compatibility so as an add-on kit it works wonderfully.
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Re: [IC] GMK N9 Ortholinear Add-on Kit
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 28 May 2019, 13:21:52 »
Iíd be in if the legend color was CP but not for WS1. The original Ivan dolch as well as Kekkonís re-run (which Iíd personally want to pair these with) both used CP, while WS1 was used by Originative on their version of dolch.

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Re: [IC] GMK N9 Ortholinear Add-on Kit
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 28 May 2019, 13:52:53 »
Yes this is great. I'm in the GMK Blanks buy for N9 1Us, but even though I'd be in for legended mods.

I'd maybe consider CP rather than WS1 as I think it'll go with more kits, WS1 is very white.
Does it really need tilde and backslash keys, don't most GMK kits come with these already? Feels like not many people would want/need/use these keys but I could be wrong.
An R4 "command" or "super" and/or "fn" key would be nice to give Mac users a 3rd modifier and to give people a few more options with their layer keys.

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Re: [IC] GMK N9 Ortholinear Add-on Kit
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 28 May 2019, 14:11:47 »

Iíd be in if the legend color was CP but not for WS1. The original Ivan dolch as well as Kekkonís re-run (which Iíd personally want to pair these with) both used CP, while WS1 was used by Originative on their version of dolch.

Yes this is great. I'm in the GMK Blanks buy for N9 1Us, but even though I'd be in for legended mods.

I'd maybe consider CP rather than WS1 as I think it'll go with more kits, WS1 is very white.
Does it really need tilde and backslash keys, don't most GMK kits come with these already? Feels like not many people would want/need/use these keys but I could be wrong.
An R4 "command" or "super" and/or "fn" key would be nice to give Mac users a 3rd modifier and to give people a few more options with their layer keys.

I'll be doing a secondary form in a day or two to decide the legend colour along with some extra keys to add.

As for the tilde and backslash keys, though they are in the GMK sets many would prefer to have their whole outer layer of keys all the same colour; it's just a lot more satisfying.

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Re: [IC] GMK N9 Ortholinear Add-on Kit
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 28 May 2019, 15:38:12 »

Iíd be in if the legend color was CP but not for WS1. The original Ivan dolch as well as Kekkonís re-run (which Iíd personally want to pair these with) both used CP, while WS1 was used by Originative on their version of dolch.

Yes this is great. I'm in the GMK Blanks buy for N9 1Us, but even though I'd be in for legended mods.

I'd maybe consider CP rather than WS1 as I think it'll go with more kits, WS1 is very white.
Does it really need tilde and backslash keys, don't most GMK kits come with these already? Feels like not many people would want/need/use these keys but I could be wrong.
An R4 "command" or "super" and/or "fn" key would be nice to give Mac users a 3rd modifier and to give people a few more options with their layer keys.

I'll be doing a secondary form in a day or two to decide the legend colour along with some extra keys to add.

As for the tilde and backslash keys, though they are in the GMK sets many would prefer to have their whole outer layer of keys all the same colour; it's just a lot more satisfying.

Awesome, Iíll be sure to fill out the form then

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Re: [IC] GMK N9 Ortholinear Add-on Kit
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 28 May 2019, 18:16:37 »
Any chance for two 2U spacebars?

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Re: [IC] GMK N9 Ortholinear Add-on Kit
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 28 May 2019, 18:20:52 »
Any chance for two 2U spacebars?
Had someone on reddit ask me about that too. Iíll make a poll in a day or two about that among other things.


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Re: [IC] GMK N9 Ortholinear Add-on Kit
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 28 May 2019, 23:43:00 »
Another vote for 2 2u space bars!
Also I missed the GMK blanks GB, so would not mind if there is a blank ortho version of this.

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Re: [IC] GMK N9 Ortholinear Add-on Kit
« Reply #15 on: Wed, 29 May 2019, 07:55:12 »
Another vote for 2 2u space bars!
Also I missed the GMK blanks GB, so would not mind if there is a blank ortho version of this.

Thanks for the feedback - I just added a second poll with this as one of the options.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScwTsHjE3g5hDCSVXXuP6hAgl1c2DutEoHpfDxVRFL2eXpMZQ/viewform?usp=sf_link

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Are all Row 4 blanks convex "spacebars"?

Interested based on price since I already have a ton of blanks ordered for this exact thing.



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Maybe a less-white white would be more applicable here. Something like CP.
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Are all Row 4 blanks convex "spacebars"?

Interested based on price since I already have a ton of blanks ordered for this exact thing.
Yeah, Iíll update the picture later to show that.


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Maybe a less-white white would be more applicable here. Something like CP.
Check the poll I posted. Currently itís 70% voting for CP, 30% for WS1 - looking like itíll change to that.

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Re: [IC] GMK N9 Ortholinear Add-on Kit (kit updated / third poll added)
« Reply #20 on: Thu, 30 May 2019, 08:02:54 »
posted an update and added another poll to see which R4 modifier key should be added :D

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Re: [IC] GMK N9 Ortholinear Add-on Kit (kit updated / third poll added)
« Reply #21 on: Thu, 30 May 2019, 12:25:18 »
Wow, this is progressing really fast, nice one, it's looking really nice now.

Question: I don't know what options GMK have for ortho keys, but are you set on having text + icons on tab and enter keys, while just text on the others? I'm not against it, just wondered what the rational was?

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Re: [IC] GMK N9 Ortholinear Add-on Kit (kit updated / third poll added)
« Reply #22 on: Thu, 30 May 2019, 18:44:56 »
Wow, this is progressing really fast, nice one, it's looking really nice now.

Question: I don't know what options GMK have for ortho keys, but are you set on having text + icons on tab and enter keys, while just text on the others? I'm not against it, just wondered what the rational was?

Honestly, I just took the general format that all the previous ortholinear sets that I researched have taken, for the sake of standardisation. The only other keys I could see having an icon would be shift possibly but in my opinion it would still be a bit out of place.

Also - it'll look even nicer once I get some proper renders :)

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Re: [IC] GMK N9 Ortholinear Add-on Kit (kit updated / third poll added)
« Reply #23 on: Fri, 31 May 2019, 03:00:56 »
However, less than a third wanted the two 1.5u keys so I likely will not add them for the time being to keep the price down.

That's too bad. I guess I'm out. GL with GB.

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Re: [IC] GMK N9 Ortholinear Add-on Kit (kit updated / third poll added)
« Reply #24 on: Fri, 31 May 2019, 05:59:51 »
However, less than a third wanted the two 1.5u keys so I likely will not add them for the time being to keep the price down.

That's too bad. I guess I'm out. GL with GB.

I think I'll do a poll later today asking how many people wouldn't buy if 1.5u keys weren't included. I don't want to exclude too many people.

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Re: [IC] GMK N9 Ortholinear Add-on Kit (kit updated / new poll)
« Reply #25 on: Sat, 01 June 2019, 01:33:29 »
Im in!

Can we get a R3 CAPS and R2 backslash?

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Re: [IC] GMK N9 Ortholinear Add-on Kit (kit updated / new poll)
« Reply #26 on: Sat, 01 June 2019, 05:57:33 »
Im in!

Can we get a R3 CAPS and R2 backslash?
What would that add compatibility for?


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Re: [IC] GMK N9 Ortholinear Add-on Kit (kit updated / third poll added)
« Reply #27 on: Sat, 01 June 2019, 11:51:49 »
However, less than a third wanted the two 1.5u keys so I likely will not add them for the time being to keep the price down.

That's too bad. I guess I'm out. GL with GB.

added them to the kit after a poll showed support for it :)

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Great. Thanks for being so responsive.

As for R3 Caps? Who actually uses dedicated caps on any layout, let alone ortho?

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As for R3 Caps? Who actually uses dedicated caps on any layout, let alone ortho?

My thoughts exactly. The truth is, if there exists a layout, somebody somewhere will be using it... But it's not realistic to support all of them.

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As for R3 Caps? Who actually uses dedicated caps on any layout, let alone ortho?

My thoughts exactly. The truth is, if there exists a layout, somebody somewhere will be using it... But it's not realistic to support all of them.

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yeah. not gonna be adding that, sry to whoever requested it.

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Is it possible to have 4x R4 keys which aren't nav arrows? Non-default planck layouts & the atreus for example don't have arrows on the lower right side.

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Is it possible to have 4x R4 keys which aren't nav arrows? Non-default planck layouts & the atreus for example don't have arrows on the lower right side.

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Sorry - i donít think Iím adding any more keys to the set. I want to keep it as affordable as possible and thereís already a decent amount of extra stuff :/


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Is it possible to have 4x R4 keys which aren't nav arrows? Non-default planck layouts & the atreus for example don't have arrows on the lower right side.

There's already 11 non arrow keys for R4 which should be enough.

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Is it possible to have 4x R4 keys which aren't nav arrows? Non-default planck layouts & the atreus for example don't have arrows on the lower right side.

There's already 11 non arrow keys for R4 which should be enough.

It's enough for someone using MIT layout or 2x2u layout. Not enough for Grid layout users.

Still very interested tho
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Re: [IC] GMK N9 Ortholinear Add-on Kit (New update / Renders by Oblotzky!)
« Reply #35 on: Sun, 16 June 2019, 06:00:48 »
posted an update with renders and some other stuff :)

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Re: [IC] GMK N9 Ortholinear Add-on Kit (New Update / Renders by Oblotzky!)
« Reply #36 on: Sun, 16 June 2019, 07:23:00 »
Looks cool

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Re: [IC] GMK N9 Ortholinear Add-on Kit (New Update / Renders by Oblotzky!)
« Reply #37 on: Thu, 20 June 2019, 12:21:54 »
I registered just to say how useful this would be.  I've just spent a couple days looking for ortho cherry profile sets and it's frustrating how you're forced to'mix and match from multiple sets.  I hope this becomes reality.

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Re: [IC] GMK N9 Ortholinear Add-on Kit (New Update / Renders by Oblotzky!)
« Reply #38 on: Thu, 20 June 2019, 12:26:40 »


...mix and match from multiple sets.  I hope this becomes reality.

I hear ya.

Currently am excited about combining this kit with GMK Oblivion V2 Hagoromo. :)

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Re: [IC] GMK N9 Ortholinear Add-on Kit (New Update / Renders by Oblotzky!)
« Reply #39 on: Thu, 20 June 2019, 14:28:20 »
I registered just to say how useful this would be.  I've just spent a couple days looking for ortho cherry profile sets and it's frustrating how you're forced to'mix and match from multiple sets.  I hope this becomes reality.
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Re: [IC] GMK N9 Ortholinear Add-on Kit (New Update / Renders by Oblotzky!)
« Reply #40 on: Thu, 20 June 2019, 14:28:36 »


...mix and match from multiple sets.  I hope this becomes reality.

I hear ya.

Currently am excited about combining this kit with GMK Oblivion V2 Hagoromo. :)

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Haha me too ;)


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Re: [IC] GMK N9 Ortholinear Add-on Kit (New Update / Renders by Oblotzky!)
« Reply #41 on: Thu, 20 June 2019, 17:55:42 »
I hear ya.

Currently am excited about combining this kit with GMK Oblivion V2 Hagoromo. :)

You just sold one more Hagoromo set. :)

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Re: [IC] GMK N9 Ortholinear Add-on Kit (New Update / Renders)
« Reply #42 on: Wed, 03 July 2019, 12:54:17 »
While youíre at it why not do ergo too?

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Re: [IC] GMK N9 Ortholinear Add-on Kit (New Update / Renders)
« Reply #43 on: Wed, 03 July 2019, 13:16:49 »
While youíre at it why not do ergo too?

not changing the kit anymore sry

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Re: [IC] GMK N9 Ortholinear Add-on Kit (New Update / Renders)
« Reply #44 on: Wed, 03 July 2019, 13:18:06 »
While youíre at it why not do ergo too?
Is it possible to have 4x R4 keys which aren't nav arrows? Non-default planck layouts & the atreus for example don't have arrows on the lower right side.

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Pretty much sums it up.

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Re: [IC] GMK N9 Ortholinear Add-on Kit (New Update / Renders)
« Reply #45 on: Thu, 04 July 2019, 21:48:09 »
Has there been an n9 ergo kit already? I saw someone looking for one on r/mm and that reminded me of this and I assumed there would be one

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Re: [IC] GMK N9 Ortholinear Add-on Kit (New Update / Renders)
« Reply #46 on: Thu, 04 July 2019, 22:00:31 »
There is. It's N9 blanks with accents for Terminal and a few other sets that use N9.

Here's a link to it.

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Re: [IC] GMK N9 Ortholinear Add-on Kit (New Update / Renders)
« Reply #47 on: Mon, 15 July 2019, 23:30:30 »
Can't wait for this. Any update?

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Re: [IC] GMK N9 Ortholinear Add-on Kit (New Update / Renders)
« Reply #48 on: Wed, 17 July 2019, 12:43:45 »
Can't wait for this. Any update?

good to hear, thanks. gmk has got back to us and we are very nearly ready for the gb  ;D

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Re: [IC] GMK N9 Ortholinear Add-on Kit (New Update / Renders)
« Reply #49 on: Fri, 23 August 2019, 13:11:50 »
Any update? Just can't wait anymore :(