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Offline psxndc

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Re: [IC] MT3 SNES
« Reply #400 on: Fri, 04 September 2020, 22:34:19 »
Here's hoping Drop gets it right.
Awwwww, that's adorable.

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Re: [IC] MT3 SNES
« Reply #401 on: Fri, 04 September 2020, 23:12:05 »
Here's hoping Drop gets it right.
Awwwww, that's adorable.

I feel it, lol. After the Holy Panda debacle and a few other things, I'm getting really anxious about this cap set.

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Re: [IC] MT3 SNES
« Reply #402 on: Sat, 05 September 2020, 21:41:39 »
Amazing.

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Re: [IC] MT3 SNES
« Reply #403 on: Tue, 29 September 2020, 14:05:07 »
Any news on a start date for the GB?

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Re: [IC] MT3 SNES
« Reply #404 on: Tue, 29 September 2020, 14:06:30 »
Any news on a start date for the GB?

I'm working on a big update post!

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Re: [IC] MT3 SNES
« Reply #405 on: Tue, 29 September 2020, 14:11:19 »

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Re: [IC] MT3 SNES
« Reply #406 on: Tue, 29 September 2020, 14:39:21 »
Not sure if it’s been brought up yet, but you only have a single 1.75u spacebar in the 40s kit. The 40s boards which use a 1.75u spacebar use two of them and not one (prime_L, JD45, JD40).

I recommend adding the second 1.75u spacebar into the 40s kit or dropping it entirely.
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Re: [IC] MT3 SNES
« Reply #407 on: Tue, 29 September 2020, 14:49:19 »
Not sure if it’s been brought up yet, but you only have a single 1.75u spacebar in the 40s kit. The 40s boards which use a 1.75u spacebar use two of them and not one (prime_L, JD45, JD40).

I recommend adding the second 1.75u spacebar into the 40s kit or dropping it entirely.

While this is mostly true, the Vortex Core uses one 1.75u spacebar. There's the spacebar kit, but I guess another white 1.75u could be added.

Offline DrHigsby

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Re: [IC] MT3 SNES
« Reply #408 on: Tue, 29 September 2020, 15:08:06 »
Not sure if it’s been brought up yet, but you only have a single 1.75u spacebar in the 40s kit. The 40s boards which use a 1.75u spacebar use two of them and not one (prime_L, JD45, JD40).

I recommend adding the second 1.75u spacebar into the 40s kit or dropping it entirely.

While this is mostly true, the Vortex Core uses one 1.75u spacebar. There's the spacebar kit, but I guess another white 1.75u could be added.

You’re right, there is the vortex core. I haven’t heard that layout in a while.

The other benefit of the additional 1.75u spacebar is that it can be used as the minivan Lock key (albeit convex instead of concave).

Edit: I’d actually remove the additional 1.75u from the accent minibars kit. IMO. Having the single accent key there just for vortex core is a pretty big inclusion for just that one layout.

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Re: [IC] MT3 SNES
« Reply #409 on: Wed, 30 September 2020, 09:55:29 »
I am DEFINITELY interested in this set, and while I am likely not gonna use it for my Drop Shift, since I like backlit kits too much to give that up, will this be compatible out of box with the Shift's 1800 layout?

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Re: [IC] MT3 SNES
« Reply #410 on: Wed, 30 September 2020, 09:58:00 »
I am DEFINITELY interested in this set, and while I am likely not gonna use it for my Drop Shift, since I like backlit kits too much to give that up, will this be compatible out of box with the Shift's 1800 layout?

Yes, TKL + Numpad

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Re: [IC] MT3 SNES
« Reply #411 on: Wed, 30 September 2020, 10:13:21 »
Not sure if it’s been brought up yet, but you only have a single 1.75u spacebar in the 40s kit. The 40s boards which use a 1.75u spacebar use two of them and not one (prime_L, JD45, JD40).

I recommend adding the second 1.75u spacebar into the 40s kit or dropping it entirely.

While this is mostly true, the Vortex Core uses one 1.75u spacebar. There's the spacebar kit, but I guess another white 1.75u could be added.

You’re right, there is the vortex core. I haven’t heard that layout in a while.

The other benefit of the additional 1.75u spacebar is that it can be used as the minivan Lock key (albeit convex instead of concave).

Edit: I’d actually remove the additional 1.75u from the accent minibars kit. IMO. Having the single accent key there just for vortex core is a pretty big inclusion for just that one layout.

There already is a dedicated R5 1.75u key for Minivan (it's labeled Mode).

The following are all the keyboards that use 1.75u space keys:
  • Vortex Core (1.75u ×1)
  • JD40 (1.75u ×2)
  • JD45 (1.75u ×2)
  • Prime_L (1.75u ×2)

I usually recommend that sets (especially ones where alphas and mods are the same color) don't include a second 1.75u space since the 1.75u Minivan key can be used in its place. That could also be done here, and I don't think users of those three keyboards would mind it — I'm pretty sure that the majority of them don't map both 1.75u keys to space anyway.

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Re: [IC] MT3 SNES
« Reply #412 on: Wed, 30 September 2020, 13:21:32 »
Can we get South kit of these pls?  :) :) :)

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Re: [IC] MT3 SNES
« Reply #413 on: Wed, 30 September 2020, 13:21:47 »
I can’t believe I missed the “Mode” key in R5. Thanks for pointing that out Konstantin.

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Re: [IC] MT3 SNES
« Reply #414 on: Tue, 06 October 2020, 07:01:51 »
This is the single most anticipated set for me. The wait time is killing me ;)

BTW rather important question to folks located in Europe. How's your experience with Drop?
Having read how long and bumpy the GB has been in case of Susuwatari (even inside US), at this very moment I'm convinced that obtaining this set via Drop will be a pure lottery, and paying them money is as good as gambling. Not to mention that taxes on top of already high priced product will hang us dry (it's only because I'm crazy about this set, that I decided to go for it).

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Re: [IC] MT3 SNES
« Reply #415 on: Tue, 06 October 2020, 07:05:20 »
This is the single most anticipated set for me. The wait time is killing me ;)

BTW rather important question to folks located in Europe. How's your experience with Drop?
Having read how long and bumpy the GB has been in case of Susuwatari (even inside US), at this very moment I'm convinced that obtaining this set via Drop will be a pure lottery, and paying them money is as good as gambling. Not to mention that taxes on top of already high priced product will hang us dry (it's only because I'm crazy about this set, that I decided to go for it).
Haven't ordered any GB through Drop before, but ordered a pair of headphones. Delivery-wise, it took about a week to get shipped to the Netherlands and then another week to get to Denmark and through customs I believe. That's about half a year ago.

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Re: [IC] MT3 SNES
« Reply #416 on: Tue, 06 October 2020, 18:32:15 »
Possible to add enter and esc violet accents in the accent or gamer pack kits? I am invested into MT3 already and like the shade of alphas here, would buy accents AND arrows if esc/enter were in it. Thx

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Re: [IC] MT3 SNES
« Reply #417 on: Tue, 06 October 2020, 18:41:57 »
Any updates on the timeline for this project?
I'm guessing it's getting pushed back a bit more?

From the "Susuwatari MT3 Keycap Coupon Thread":

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We're hoping to release 3 more MT3 sets in October/November, Black on White, White on Black, and Carmillo. All three are subject to potential delays, i.e. no promises!

This was on Sept 25th, when MT3 3277 went live btw.

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Re: [IC] MT3 SNES
« Reply #418 on: Tue, 06 October 2020, 19:21:36 »
Any updates on the timeline for this project?
I'm guessing it's getting pushed back a bit more?

From the "Susuwatari MT3 Keycap Coupon Thread":

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We're hoping to release 3 more MT3 sets in October/November, Black on White, White on Black, and Carmillo. All three are subject to potential delays, i.e. no promises!

This was on Sept 25th, when MT3 3277 went live btw.

I think MT3 SNES is waiting for toolings for R5 (row 5)
and also concern about color matching (not sure if this is in the work)

I'm patiently waiting for MT3 SNES.  ;D
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Re: [IC] MT3 SNES
« Reply #419 on: Tue, 06 October 2020, 19:44:51 »
Hey, thanks for all the responses. I will post a more thorough update at a later time. For now:

While working more closely with Drop and learning about the manufacturing process of MT3 (more info), I became aware of some limitations related to production (all factories have different limitations). The kits, as they were posted in the OP, are not longer current.

I'm working around these restrictions (on colour, profile and legends) to be able to realize all the beautiful ideas generated by this IC. In light of this, I suggest putting the very specific requests for kit/key changes, as they are, on a slight pause...

More to come!

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Re: [IC] SA SNES
« Reply #420 on: Tue, 06 October 2020, 21:25:24 »
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Re: [IC] MT3 SNES
« Reply #421 on: Wed, 07 October 2020, 00:19:56 »
somehow this color combo feels like it fits well with mt3 and drop overall I think it will do well

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Re: [IC] MT3 SNES
« Reply #422 on: Mon, 19 October 2020, 23:29:11 »
It would be nice to be able to get two 2u spacebars without having to buy multiple kits. There are many keyboards (especially 40% orthos) that support two 2u spacebars. Please consider adding an additional 2u spacebar to every kit that already has a 2u spacebar. (It would be great if they were there same color too.)

It would also be nice to have two 2u (convex) spacebars in the Ergo kit for Boardwalks. I think there are people who would use convex 2u spacebar keys on traditional Ergodox thumb keys layouts as well.

Offline komodo90

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Re: [IC] MT3 SNES
« Reply #423 on: Wed, 04 November 2020, 18:24:51 »
It would be nice to be able to get two 2u spacebars without having to buy multiple kits. There are many keyboards (especially 40% orthos) that support two 2u spacebars. Please consider adding an additional 2u spacebar to every kit that already has a 2u spacebar. (It would be great if they were there same color too.)

It would also be nice to have two 2u (convex) spacebars in the Ergo kit for Boardwalks. I think there are people who would use convex 2u spacebar keys on traditional Ergodox thumb keys layouts as well.

100% agreed. I'm interested in kitting for Boardwalk as well.

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Re: [IC] MT3 SNES
« Reply #424 on: Sat, 21 November 2020, 21:48:38 »
Any updates on if this set will still be offered by the end of the year? I was hoping to use my free MT3 set coupon for Susuwatari on this but I'm worried that this won't run in time with the coupon supposedly expiring on December 31st
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Re: [IC] MT3 SNES
« Reply #425 on: Sat, 21 November 2020, 21:51:16 »
Any updates on if this set will still be offered by the end of the year? I was hoping to use my free MT3 set coupon for Susuwatari on this but I'm worried that this won't run in time with the coupon supposedly expiring on December 31st

Hey. This won't run in 2020. Sorry...

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Re: [IC] MT3 SNES
« Reply #426 on: Sat, 21 November 2020, 21:53:43 »
rip

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[IC] MT3 SNES
« Reply #427 on: Sun, 22 November 2020, 08:05:07 »
Any updates on if this set will still be offered by the end of the year? I was hoping to use my free MT3 set coupon for Susuwatari on this but I'm worried that this won't run in time with the coupon supposedly expiring on December 31st

Hey. This won't run in 2020. Sorry...
It's okay, I understand...


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Re: [IC] MT3 SNES
« Reply #428 on: Sun, 22 November 2020, 11:58:45 »
Any updates on if this set will still be offered by the end of the year? I was hoping to use my free MT3 set coupon for Susuwatari on this but I'm worried that this won't run in time with the coupon supposedly expiring on December 31st

Hey. This won't run in 2020. Sorry...

No worries! Thank you for answering my question. I'm still very interested in this set and will keep watching for progress
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Re: [IC] MT3 SNES
« Reply #429 on: Mon, 23 November 2020, 06:48:07 »
Happy to wait so long as this runs sometime.
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Re: [IC] MT3 SNES
« Reply #430 on: Mon, 23 November 2020, 11:35:24 »
Hey at least it's running unlike that other SNES set.........  :))

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Re: [IC] MT3 SNES
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« Reply #432 on: Sat, 28 November 2020, 14:58:50 »
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Re: [IC] MT3 SNES
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Re: [IC] MT3 SNES
« Reply #434 on: Sun, 29 November 2020, 09:22:15 »
Sorry to see this is on hold now. I'm sure you're more disappointed than any of us, voodoo6k.

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Re: [IC] MT3 SNES
« Reply #435 on: Sun, 29 November 2020, 09:44:26 »
Sorry to hear about that... wish you best of luck
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Re: [IC] MT3 SNES
« Reply #436 on: Tue, 01 December 2020, 12:28:05 »
This project has been put on hold. There is no ETA.

It's a terrible day for rain... Best of luck voodoo6k, I hope someday you can get this project off the ground. Been really looking forward to it.

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Re: [IC] MT3 SNES
« Reply #437 on: Tue, 01 December 2020, 13:16:29 »
Been looking forward to it for several months now. Even posted a message on Discord already some time ago. This set is a gem. Whatever it is you're gonna do with it voodoo, best of luck.

On a sidenote - MT3 doubleshot being pretty fresh topic for the community seemingly, would you be keen to say a few words what are the main obstacles? Is it the plastic changing it's properties with certain dyes, contrast/sharpness aspects, mould injection or something else? Asking just out of curiosity.


Also, I joined the party a bit late, and if I'm not mistaken this set started as a Signature Plastics SA project - is that right? Despite stating on Discord that SA is probably no go for me, do you have any renders of it left? After all maybe it is worth it to ask community if they'd be interested in SA or, even better, KAT run, followed by target MT3 whenever you come to terms with all the challenges around it?

I'm guessing for both runs you'd have a decent numbers of potential buyers.

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Re: [IC] MT3 SNES
« Reply #438 on: Tue, 01 December 2020, 16:33:17 »
I'll wait as long as it takes.

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Re: [IC] MT3 SNES
« Reply #439 on: Tue, 01 December 2020, 22:58:31 »
Been looking forward to it for several months now. Even posted a message on Discord already some time ago. This set is a gem. Whatever it is you're gonna do with it voodoo, best of luck.

On a sidenote - MT3 doubleshot being pretty fresh topic for the community seemingly, would you be keen to say a few words what are the main obstacles? Is it the plastic changing it's properties with certain dyes, contrast/sharpness aspects, mould injection or something else? Asking just out of curiosity.


Also, I joined the party a bit late, and if I'm not mistaken this set started as a Signature Plastics SA project - is that right? Despite stating on Discord that SA is probably no go for me, do you have any renders of it left? After all maybe it is worth it to ask community if they'd be interested in SA or, even better, KAT run, followed by target MT3 whenever you come to terms with all the challenges around it?

I'm guessing for both runs you'd have a decent numbers of potential buyers.

Take care

About MT3 doubleshot, if you look at all the new sets, you will notice a pattern... (without going into detail) it's cheaper and faster to re-use these kit arrangements.

No, I don't have any renders of SA R3 with centered legends. I do believe this set should be ABS, so that narrows down potential manufacturers.


To be honest, in the current climate, my interest in making keysets has waned quite a bit.

I'll ask a few vendors what their schedule looks like. If it's not too complicated, I'd do either SP SA or EnjoyPBT (ABS). Otherwise I'll have to pass the torch.