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Offline The_Royal

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    The Ave.

    *noun:avenue; a way of approaching a problem




    Hello, my friends!

    So as other projects are in the "waiting zone" or are fully complete, I wanted to open up the doors to a projected I've been excited about for quite some time now. 

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    This is The Ave. (Avenue)

         This adorable little behemoth has been my dream since I got into Ortholinear keyboards.  A Functional "50%" keyboard with a few bells and whistles. 

    No "sudo basket pancake reverse mount" here folks.  Just a simple "Top-Mount" style is perfect for the sounds I like.  And I hope many of you do as well! :)


    Basic (But still Fresh) Renders





    Rotary Knob by rionlion100!















    *A Huge Amount of more renders (w/keycaps), soon to come  :thumb:




    The Inspiration:

    If you have ever been around professional studio workstations, or have seen them in TV or Movies before, you will notice instantly the inspiration for The Ave.

    Boards like the

    G80-9009HAU



    and the Yamaha RM 804



    They display their MASSIVE stature proudly.   

    When you see one of these types of boards, You know there is WORK TO BE DONE.



    Now I've used 40% from the first moment I jumped onto this crazy train of a hobby.  Something about the simplicity of 40's boards instantly drew me in.  And after the few months of frustration and re-learning to be a better typist.  I have found nothing to be as comfortable as 40-60% ortholinear keyboards. 

    They are without a doubt, The Thicc Bee's Knees.

    But Sometimes, You need just A Little Bit...More.


    The Specs. & Details:


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    Key Points:
    - Two-piece PCB, Plate, & Case Design
    - Top-Mount Style Switch Plate
    - USB Type-C
    - x2 Small 5mm LED Indicators
    - Smooth, rounded edges and inner chamfers
    - Subtle and Bold Color options
    - Different Layout Options (Ortho & Standard 40% Stagger) w/support for Rotary Encoder (because aesthetics are a thing)



    Considering the Following Color Options-


    • PolyCarbonate:

    - Frosted

    • Anodized:

    -Dark Grey

    -Silver

    • Powder Coat/Cerakote:

    -"Retro-Refrigorator" Teal

    -Bruised Banana Yellow (yes)




    Plate Options:

    - 1.5mm PVD Coated Brass
    - 1.5mm Stainless Steel
    - 1.6mm FR4 Plate (PCB Material)




    Top Panel Options:



    • Top Left Rotary Panel Will be the only option (This is based on the overwhelming majority choice in the IC Form)

    The Price:

    **Obviously The Price will vary based on the configuration, material and finish chosen

    but-

    -For the base Layout, simple anodized color, and SS Plate: I'm doing my best to get this in the low-mid $200's. (no promises, but I really want to try and offer this at a decent price)




    The Most Recent Progress:

    Prototypes have arrived!


    Itís such a beautiful feeling Case. Everything lines up to the T and Iím incredibly happy with the fit and finish overall.

    This is part of a new design Iím testing out:



    The goal being: Make the cheapest Case Possible, while also retaining the feel of the original design.

    The bottom and rear are designed to be cut from 3mm Acrylic Sheets. I also have those in, just waiting for the FR4 Testing Plates and then Iíll have a full Build ready for evaluation! 

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    To Do:

    - Listen to the community
    - Enlist help with getting Prototyping done
    - Update Details on PCB when fully tested and complete (a few weeks)
    - Work on Implementing the E-Ink Display (Choosing to look at OLED instead of E-Ink) 
    - Hear back from local Paint shops
    - Work on fuller Renders and Sets
    - Smile, and remember to breath
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    « Last Edit: Wed, 07 August 2019, 10:12:13 by The_Royal »

    Offline mwahlig

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    Re: [IC] The Ave. (Avenue) - A 50% Ortholinear Battlestation
    « Reply #1 on: Mon, 17 June 2019, 23:25:27 »
    I like this a lot. Will definitely be keeping an eye on this one. Nice work, looking forward to future updates!

    Offline fireworm

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    Re: [IC] The Ave. (Avenue) - A 50% Ortholinear Battlestation
    « Reply #2 on: Mon, 17 June 2019, 23:27:54 »
    I think it has potential.

    Personally I'd love the entire top row to be an frow. (and staggered, not ortho, but I digress).

    Offline glubazoid

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    Re: [IC] The Ave. (Avenue) - A 50% Ortholinear Battlestation
    « Reply #3 on: Tue, 18 June 2019, 00:05:47 »
    Not an ortho user, I'd jump on this if its staggered.

    But cool design!

    Offline japancakes

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    Re: [IC] The Ave. (Avenue) - A 50% Ortholinear Battlestation
    « Reply #4 on: Tue, 18 June 2019, 00:35:25 »
    This is why I come on Geekhack. Nobody needs another TKL  :-*

    Offline Nightcrawler

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    Re: [IC] The Ave. (Avenue) - A 50% Ortholinear Battlestation
    « Reply #5 on: Tue, 18 June 2019, 01:42:52 »
    Wow, very impressive.

    Offline unluckyxiii

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    Re: [IC] The Ave. (Avenue) - A 50% Ortholinear Battlestation
    « Reply #6 on: Tue, 18 June 2019, 06:22:52 »
    This is really cool!


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    Offline Smoff

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    Re: [IC] The Ave. (Avenue) - A 50% Ortholinear Battlestation
    « Reply #7 on: Tue, 18 June 2019, 06:31:58 »
    If this price stays at the estimate this might very well be my first ortho. It looks sick

    Offline equalunique

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    Re: [IC] The Ave. (Avenue) - A 50% Ortholinear Battlestation
    « Reply #8 on: Tue, 18 June 2019, 07:29:36 »
    I'm interested for sure

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    Offline Morbus

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    Re: [IC] The Ave. (Avenue) - A 50% Ortholinear Battlestation
    « Reply #9 on: Tue, 18 June 2019, 07:35:37 »
    This is very neat! ortho cool!
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    Offline trabbit

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    Re: [IC] The Ave. (Avenue) - A 50% Ortholinear Battlestation
    « Reply #10 on: Tue, 18 June 2019, 08:13:45 »
    This is really cool!

    Offline The_Royal

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    Re: [IC] The Ave. (Avenue) - A 50% Ortholinear Battlestation
    « Reply #11 on: Tue, 18 June 2019, 08:29:50 »
    Iím so excited everyone seems to like the Idea/design!

    A few things I want to Look into:

    ē Adding a standard 40% Plate Option

    ē Adding Infographic Display (E-Ink/OLED)

    ē Look into the possibility of Bluetooth (maybe)

    Hoping to have more info on Prototypes and manufacturing in a week or two  :thumb:

    Offline UggNot

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    Re: [IC] The Ave. (Avenue) - A 50% Ortholinear Battlestation
    « Reply #12 on: Tue, 18 June 2019, 09:03:27 »
    Definitely want to see where this one goes.  I like the form factor and layout.

    Offline dingusxmcgee

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    Re: [IC] The Ave. (Avenue) - A 50% Ortholinear Battlestation
    « Reply #13 on: Tue, 18 June 2019, 10:06:07 »
    This. Is so. Interesting.
    Definitely following this.
    Donít think I will pick one up but color me super interested!

    Offline Gumberculese

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    Re: [IC] The Ave. (Avenue) - A 50% Ortholinear Battlestation
    « Reply #14 on: Tue, 18 June 2019, 10:28:32 »
    I'll be watching this one, love the maximalist approach to an ortholinear board, when they're usually minimalist.
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    Offline RETURNISO

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    Re: [IC] The Ave. (Avenue) - A 50% Ortholinear Battlestation
    « Reply #15 on: Tue, 18 June 2019, 11:16:09 »
    Neat, i love the WEY MK06..

    Rotary encoder all the way!  :thumb:


    Offline Visionaire

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    Re: [IC] The Ave. (Avenue) - A 50% Ortholinear Battlestation
    « Reply #16 on: Tue, 18 June 2019, 14:03:23 »
    Neat, but I don't use ortho. =/
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    Offline japancakes

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    Re: [IC] The Ave. (Avenue) - A 50% Ortholinear Battlestation
    « Reply #17 on: Tue, 18 June 2019, 14:58:41 »
    Neat, but I don't use ortho. =/

    Cancel the f****** group buy.

    Offline The_Royal

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    Re: [IC] The Ave. (Avenue) - A 50% Ortholinear Battlestation
    « Reply #18 on: Tue, 18 June 2019, 15:11:13 »

    Offline Asbrodeus

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    Re: [IC] The Ave. (Avenue) - A 50% Ortholinear Battlestation
    « Reply #19 on: Tue, 18 June 2019, 15:16:06 »
    I love all the new different stuff coming out now. Would absolutely buy.

    Offline Visionaire

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    Re: [IC] The Ave. (Avenue) - A 50% Ortholinear Battlestation
    « Reply #20 on: Tue, 18 June 2019, 15:30:41 »
    Neat, but I don't use ortho. =/

    Cancel the f****** group buy.

    Pack it up folks! :)
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    Offline dingusxmcgee

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    Re: [IC] The Ave. (Avenue) - A 50% Ortholinear Battlestation
    « Reply #21 on: Tue, 18 June 2019, 15:41:02 »
    Neat, but I don't use ortho. =/

    Cancel the f****** group buy.

    Pack it up folks! :)

    RIP Ave, we hardly knew ye.

    Online TheGlyph

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    Re: [IC] The Ave. (Avenue) - A 50% Ortholinear Battlestation
    « Reply #22 on: Wed, 19 June 2019, 19:25:42 »
    I'm REALLY into this! Will be watching closely  :-*
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    Offline TasteGhost

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    Re: [IC] The Ave. (Avenue) - A 50% Ortholinear Battlestation
    « Reply #23 on: Thu, 20 June 2019, 08:51:36 »
    This is tremendously exciting, I made an account just to follow this project. Iím really looking forward to renders with various keysets.

    The rotary encoder is a fun touch, itíd be interesting to see other controls in the top row as well. The mixer in the first post has me thinking about sliders, toggle switches, joysticks, x-y pads... etc.
    « Last Edit: Thu, 20 June 2019, 22:27:59 by TasteGhost »

    Offline tvaro

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    Re: [IC] The Ave. (Avenue) - A 50% Ortholinear Battlestation
    « Reply #24 on: Thu, 20 June 2019, 17:39:08 »
    I really like this.

    Pc + rotary encoder at the price point youíre aiming to have it at will be an instant purchase from me

    Offline DuellM

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    This would be perfect for me if the keys were staggered,  I've been looking for something like this for a long time

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    Offline RETURNISO

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    +1 staggered version

    Offline mr.squishy

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    Do you have any renders with caps? I like the idea but I'm having a hard time visualizing some of my favorite sets on the board.

    Offline zzzaacchh

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    I fully support anything ortho. Pay no attention to the people asking for staggered, they have yet to see the light.

    Offline The_Royal

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    Do you have any renders with caps? I like the idea but I'm having a hard time visualizing some of my favorite sets on the board.

    Working on those over the weekend! 

    I definitely am wanting to get some full renders for you guys.

    Offline InvidiousIgnoramus

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    Aw heck, you've designed more things I want, haha. When it comes to brass, would it be possible to get it either sandblasted or some kind of matte pvd? Not really a fan of shiny surfaces.
    I long for the day when I find a beamspring. (At a not insane price)

    Offline KevinSanToast

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    Any chance to get two 2u spacebar support?

    Offline Vigrith

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    Lovely design, ortho sucks. It'll drastically benefit from a staggered PCB+plate option if the cost increase is not prohibitive.

    Offline mr.squishy

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    Lovely design, ortho sucks. It'll drastically benefit from a staggered PCB+plate option if the cost increase is not prohibitive.
    That's a pretty garbage attitude to take about someone else's design, especially when claiming pure opinion as fact. I think OP picked Ortho because they probably like ortho, but they also designed the board specifically around the stylistic, angular lines that you can only get with an ortholinear layout.  Personally, I like how sharp and straight everything is. Very boxy like an old Volvo, feeling very durable looking. It almost looks inspired by brutalist architecture. Functional, overbuilt, hefty.

    This IC clearly isn't for you.

    Edit: OP, I think a concrete case would be awesome for this board, have you considered trying to make one? I might try to make one if this hits MOQ.
    « Last Edit: Wed, 26 June 2019, 06:40:31 by mr.squishy »

    Offline Rob27shred

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    Oh man this an awesome design, consider me interested for sure! Especially if you can meet your price goal on the alum or PC versions.  :thumb:

    Offline Knucklehead211

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    Like I said on Reddit and the IC form, super down for this. Never soldered/built a keyboard before, but this design is exactly what I've been looking for. If you do staggered as well, I'll be able to cover it with keysets I already own and think would kill on this keeb, but if you need to do ortho only, I guess I'll manage!

    Offline Vigrith

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    That's a pretty garbage attitude to take about someone else's design, especially when claiming pure opinion as fact. I think OP picked Ortho because they probably like ortho, but they also designed the board specifically around the stylistic, angular lines that you can only get with an ortholinear layout.  Personally, I like how sharp and straight everything is. Very boxy like an old Volvo, feeling very durable looking. It almost looks inspired by brutalist architecture. Functional, overbuilt, hefty.

    This IC clearly isn't for you.

    Edit: OP, I think a concrete case would be awesome for this board, have you considered trying to make one? I might try to make one if this hits MOQ.

    Why are you offended on OP's behalf? Calm down. The fact I'm even addressing this is completely ridiculous but alas;

    Firstly, it's BLATANT that I was referring to an opinion without having to elongate the response for no reason. In my opinion, ortho sucks. Obviously I'm not stating ortholinear as a whole is a disgusting practice and everyone should be ashamed for liking it, you inferring that from my statement is showing bias on your end if nothing else.

    You have absolutely not business telling me if an IC is for me or not, especially after I specified that I love the design and want the project to be successful, I believe (in this case I think it to be factual so if you wanna attack anything, do it here) that'll be an easier road if a staggered plate+PCB being offered is a possibility without straying too far from the original idea(s) and/or being cost prohibitive.

    Offline Acereconkeys

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    +1 for traditional staggered option. If this has a traditional staggered option with alu/half plate I do not think i'll be able to pass it up.

    Additionally, what's the idea/reason for the large lack of stuff on the top half of the battleship? The dead space in between the additional keys.
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    Offline Minterly

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    bliss pink or riot

    edit: can we also get a badge like a nameplate where all the empty space is
    would look dope if you could find a subtle, clean font for "the ave" or "the avenue" nameplate
    « Last Edit: Wed, 26 June 2019, 22:48:24 by Minterly »

    Offline mr.squishy

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    That's a pretty garbage attitude to take about someone else's design, especially when claiming pure opinion as fact. I think OP picked Ortho because they probably like ortho, but they also designed the board specifically around the stylistic, angular lines that you can only get with an ortholinear layout.  Personally, I like how sharp and straight everything is. Very boxy like an old Volvo, feeling very durable looking. It almost looks inspired by brutalist architecture. Functional, overbuilt, hefty.

    This IC clearly isn't for you.

    Edit: OP, I think a concrete case would be awesome for this board, have you considered trying to make one? I might try to make one if this hits MOQ.

    Why are you offended on OP's behalf? Calm down. The fact I'm even addressing this is completely ridiculous but alas;

    Firstly, it's BLATANT that I was referring to an opinion without having to elongate the response for no reason. In my opinion, ortho sucks. Obviously I'm not stating ortholinear as a whole is a disgusting practice and everyone should be ashamed for liking it, you inferring that from my statement is showing bias on your end if nothing else.

    You have absolutely not business telling me if an IC is for me or not, especially after I specified that I love the design and want the project to be successful, I believe (in this case I think it to be factual so if you wanna attack anything, do it here) that'll be an easier road if a staggered plate+PCB being offered is a possibility without straying too far from the original idea(s) and/or being cost prohibitive.
    I might have come on too strong, but my opinion still stands. I'm only trying to defend op's design language, which I happen to like quite a lot. I would be upset if this entire IC were to be switched to a staggered layout, which is why I am defending ortho linear.

    I realize that you're definitely correct, more people will be interested if there is a staggered option. I only meant to defend what I believe to be a good design with obvious aesthetic choices, therefore I apologize that my intent was misinterpreted, I should not have called your attitude garbage.

    Ideally, both options would be available. I hope this gets more exposure, maybe then different layouts will be more viable/cost effective.

    Offline The_Royal

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    That's a pretty garbage attitude to take about someone else's design, especially when claiming pure opinion as fact. I think OP picked Ortho because they probably like ortho, but they also designed the board specifically around the stylistic, angular lines that you can only get with an ortholinear layout.  Personally, I like how sharp and straight everything is. Very boxy like an old Volvo, feeling very durable looking. It almost looks inspired by brutalist architecture. Functional, overbuilt, hefty.

    This IC clearly isn't for you.

    Edit: OP, I think a concrete case would be awesome for this board, have you considered trying to make one? I might try to make one if this hits MOQ.

    Why are you offended on OP's behalf? Calm down. The fact I'm even addressing this is completely ridiculous but alas;

    Firstly, it's BLATANT that I was referring to an opinion without having to elongate the response for no reason. In my opinion, ortho sucks. Obviously I'm not stating ortholinear as a whole is a disgusting practice and everyone should be ashamed for liking it, you inferring that from my statement is showing bias on your end if nothing else.

    You have absolutely not business telling me if an IC is for me or not, especially after I specified that I love the design and want the project to be successful, I believe (in this case I think it to be factual so if you wanna attack anything, do it here) that'll be an easier road if a staggered plate+PCB being offered is a possibility without straying too far from the original idea(s) and/or being cost prohibitive.
    I might have come on too strong, but my opinion still stands. I'm only trying to defend op's design language, which I happen to like quite a lot. I would be upset if this entire IC were to be switched to a staggered layout, which is why I am defending ortho linear.

    I realize that you're definitely correct, more people will be interested if there is a staggered option. I only meant to defend what I believe to be a good design with obvious aesthetic choices, therefore I apologize that my intent was misinterpreted, I should not have called your attitude garbage.

    Ideally, both options would be available. I hope this gets more exposure, maybe then different layouts will be more viable/cost effective.



    All Opinions are welcome.  It's the internet lol

    A Standard 40% Stagger Option will be available.  However, it will be an additional cost.  Plate+Staggered PCB.

    I've discussed this will dozens of people on the Reddit thread and Discord discussion and its been a WIP for a while now.  :)

    The Staggered option is same as Daisy & asymmetrical bottom row.  :thumb:

    Edit: Ill be updating the thread with a big update later this week!
    « Last Edit: Thu, 27 June 2019, 00:13:52 by The_Royal »

    Offline metalliccharles

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    Filled out the IC.  This is a wonderfully unique board.  I can't wait to see more renders and the proto!

    Offline Knucklehead211

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    A Standard 40% Stagger Option will be available.  However, it will be an additional cost.  Plate+Staggered PCB.

    The Staggered option is same as Daisy & asymmetrical bottom row.  :thumb:


    So what 10% does the ortho layout gain? Personally I'm not comfortable ditching the number row just yet, though like I said, this design is so killer you may make a believer out of me.

    Offline Kerasan

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    this will be my first ortho  :thumb:

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    Offline loviniltra

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    can't wait for next update :)

    Offline equalunique

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    Ne 2x2u spacebar?????

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    Offline The_Royal

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    Ne 2x2u spacebar?????

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    yes x2 - 2u is one of the layouts in the ortho kit

    as well as the separate "Standard 40%" Kit

    Wanting to get some nice renders made up for you guys but I do have a few big announcements that Ill be sharing with you guys in the next week or so. 

    We are looking really good so far!

    Offline MudkipMao

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    Super interested!!  :)

    Offline The_Royal

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    Integrated A Brass Weight:



    - Prototypes are on their way!

    - Updated the IC Form with more consolidated Color options

    - ONLY Rotary Encoder Top Panel will be availible at GB.  Just to keep our costs down with as little options as possible.

    Offline SlamMakanen

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    Any chance of a render with the 40% staggered look?


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