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Offline steezkeez

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
« Reply #200 on: Wed, 31 July 2019, 00:41:14 »
There’s absolutely no way this is gonna be sub $300... I would be surprised if it was sub $400 to be honest.

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
« Reply #201 on: Wed, 31 July 2019, 03:07:14 »
I hope it will be around 400, max.

I wouldn't spend more than 450 tho D:


Offline bobgr8

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
« Reply #202 on: Wed, 31 July 2019, 13:15:00 »
given the rise of affordable options, I don't think I would spend $300 or more on a 60/65 keyboard, unless it's from key cult or Rama and has impeccable anode



Offline Vireca

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
« Reply #203 on: Wed, 31 July 2019, 13:43:10 »
given the rise of affordable options, I don't think I would spend $300 or more on a 60/65 keyboard, unless it's from key cult or Rama and has impeccable anode
What are the affordable options? I didnt see any 65% keyboard sub 300€ recently

Offline zF4TE

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
« Reply #204 on: Wed, 31 July 2019, 13:53:26 »
given the rise of affordable options, I don't think I would spend $300 or more on a 60/65 keyboard, unless it's from key cult or Rama and has impeccable anode
What are the affordable options? I didnt see any 65% keyboard sub 300€ recently

The Polaris by ai03, sub 300 gasket mounted beauty



Offline Vireca

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
« Reply #205 on: Wed, 31 July 2019, 13:59:37 »
given the rise of affordable options, I don't think I would spend $300 or more on a 60/65 keyboard, unless it's from key cult or Rama and has impeccable anode
What are the affordable options? I didnt see any 65% keyboard sub 300€ recently

The Polaris by ai03, sub 300 gasket mounted beauty
Its 60%, not 65% :P

Offline steezkeez

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
« Reply #206 on: Wed, 31 July 2019, 14:03:35 »
given the rise of affordable options, I don't think I would spend $300 or more on a 60/65 keyboard, unless it's from key cult or Rama and has impeccable anode
What are the affordable options? I didnt see any 65% keyboard sub 300€ recently

The Polaris by ai03, sub 300 gasket mounted beauty

Not trying to be rude but the Polaris is being run through KBDFans and is priced as such. This board is obviously more geared towards the luxury market and I'm sure will be priced accordingly so.

Offline Bhk1004

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
« Reply #207 on: Wed, 31 July 2019, 14:25:20 »
Didnt we just have issues with kbdfan ran switch opener quality designed by ai03? Kbdfan manufacturing is not top tier, it is budget. Pricing reflects as such.
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Offline Vireca

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
« Reply #208 on: Wed, 31 July 2019, 14:53:28 »
Didnt we just have issues with kbdfan ran switch opener quality designed by ai03? Kbdfan manufacturing is not top tier, it is budget. Pricing reflects as such.

Well, technically kbfans dont manu anything. They are just a shop that work as a proxy and shipping, so the designer dont run all the GB process itself. The problem with the switch openers as ai03 said was that the manu ****ed his measures, they didnt follow the designs exactly. He was really upset

Offline Bhk1004

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
« Reply #209 on: Wed, 31 July 2019, 15:07:38 »
Didnt we just have issues with kbdfan ran switch opener quality designed by ai03? Kbdfan manufacturing is not top tier, it is budget. Pricing reflects as such.

Well, technically kbfans dont manu anything. They are just a shop that work as a proxy and shipping, so the designer dont run all the GB process itself. The problem with the switch openers as ai03 said was that the manu ****ed his measures, they didnt follow the designs exactly. He was really upset

My understanding is kbdfan shops the manufacturing across his factory contacts. Hence to me its kbdfans Manu. Did ai03 shop and secure his own manufacturing? Asking as I dont know the full background on how the supplu chain was secured. I do know that there is not a high regard to the manufacturing that kbdfan works with.
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Offline voxkey

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
« Reply #210 on: Wed, 31 July 2019, 15:49:45 »
I think it's great that we all have so many options in basically every layout and at every price. There are quite a few projects I'm following closely and planning on joining, or have already joined, at both low price points and higher price points as well.

Specifically for this board, our main focus was on the design and engineering of the board and its feature set. Furthermore, we chose to go with suppliers who are more expensive, but offer consistency and high, repeatable quality.

What this means, unfortunately, is that the price will reflect this. While we will not release final pricing until everything is confirmed, I will say that the Iron165 SE will be priced around other high-end, premium offerings.

Offline steezkeez

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
« Reply #211 on: Wed, 31 July 2019, 15:58:26 »
For reference, Dixie Mech just released Bauer pricing (Aluminum kit = $460, Brass Kit = $560). I'm guessing IRON165 will be priced similarly.

Offline stuey138

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
« Reply #212 on: Wed, 31 July 2019, 15:58:50 »
I think it's great that we all have so many options in basically every layout and at every price. There are quite a few projects I'm following closely and planning on joining, or have already joined, at both low price points and higher price points as well.

Specifically for this board, our main focus was on the design and engineering of the board and its feature set. Furthermore, we chose to go with suppliers who are more expensive, but offer consistency and high, repeatable quality.

What this means, unfortunately, is that the price will reflect this. While we will not release final pricing until everything is confirmed, I will say that the Iron165 SE will be priced around other high-end, premium offerings.
My piggy bank is ready to be shattered to buy the iron, can't wait.

Offline xantiema

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
« Reply #213 on: Wed, 31 July 2019, 16:13:25 »
For reference, Dixie Mech just released Bauer pricing (Aluminum kit = $460, Brass Kit = $560). I'm guessing IRON165 will be priced similarly.

That is absolutely overpriced, for what it is

Offline jooobe

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
« Reply #214 on: Wed, 31 July 2019, 16:37:11 »
For reference, Dixie Mech just released Bauer pricing (Aluminum kit = $460, Brass Kit = $560). I'm guessing IRON165 will be priced similarly.
They are only doing 20 kits also, so high price is expected

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Offline Nevermore012

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
« Reply #215 on: Wed, 31 July 2019, 16:42:48 »
For reference, Dixie Mech just released Bauer pricing (Aluminum kit = $460, Brass Kit = $560). I'm guessing IRON165 will be priced similarly.

That is absolutely overpriced, for what it is
(gasket) isolation mount like keycult, i guess


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Offline bobgr8

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
« Reply #216 on: Wed, 31 July 2019, 17:24:33 »
given the rise of affordable options, I don't think I would spend $300 or more on a 60/65 keyboard, unless it's from key cult or Rama and has impeccable anode
What are the affordable options? I didnt see any 65% keyboard sub 300€ recently

well, the NR65, Polaris60. anyways, I don't think this GB is going to be for me.

Edit: doesn't the mk community really praise kbdfans for their tofu case? Anyways, I've heard horror stories of Korean Kustoms and good QC with Chinese keeb.
I really don't think the price reflects the quality.
« Last Edit: Wed, 31 July 2019, 17:27:50 by bobgr8 »



Offline Clo_0lD

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
« Reply #217 on: Wed, 31 July 2019, 17:42:29 »
given the rise of affordable options, I don't think I would spend $300 or more on a 60/65 keyboard, unless it's from key cult or Rama and has impeccable anode
What are the affordable options? I didnt see any 65% keyboard sub 300€ recently

well, the NR65, Polaris60. anyways, I don't think this GB is going to be for me.

Edit: doesn't the mk community really praise kbdfans for their tofu case? Anyways, I've heard horror stories of Korean Kustoms and good QC with Chinese keeb.
I really don't think the price reflects the quality.

I think many would agree that most of the stuff that Kbdfans makes are good for the price, but if you want better anodization, machining, materials, etc. you're going to have to pay more for those things. Sure, not everything that is priced high is necessarily better quality, but in order to get better quality you will have to pay more usually.

I personally love my Acrylic Tofu, but I'm in on this because I love the design and I want a more premium option that will hopefully deliver on its promises of being a great quality product.

Offline Capsy

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
« Reply #218 on: Wed, 31 July 2019, 17:43:41 »
given the rise of affordable options, I don't think I would spend $300 or more on a 60/65 keyboard, unless it's from key cult or Rama and has impeccable anode
What are the affordable options? I didnt see any 65% keyboard sub 300€ recently

well, the NR65, Polaris60. anyways, I don't think this GB is going to be for me.

Edit: doesn't the mk community really praise kbdfans for their tofu case? Anyways, I've heard horror stories of Korean Kustoms and good QC with Chinese keeb.
I really don't think the price reflects the quality.
There's a place for every product in this community.

While KBDFans produce brilliant products, their anode and finishing is what you expect to get at that price. It's a level or two below the Keycults/RAMA/TGRs. You need to see what keycult refer to as B stock as that stuff will sell as A+ stock in a lot of KBDfans' GBs. So the price you pay for luxury products is the impeccable QC and finish quality.

Offline jooobe

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
« Reply #219 on: Wed, 31 July 2019, 18:48:32 »
Yup, buy what you want, and buy what you can afford

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Offline bobgr8

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
« Reply #220 on: Thu, 01 August 2019, 00:53:31 »
given the rise of affordable options, I don't think I would spend $300 or more on a 60/65 keyboard, unless it's from key cult or Rama and has impeccable anode

Hence. Waiting for keycult 65



Offline baye12928

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
« Reply #221 on: Thu, 01 August 2019, 02:08:00 »
$400 is also acceptable.....can not wait to buy

Offline Solotov

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
« Reply #222 on: Thu, 01 August 2019, 03:26:34 »
Is 910 plate compatible with Iron165?
HHKB2 / Zephyr / M65 / M60 / LZ MP / LZ CLSn / Kepler / Jane V2 CE / Orion V2 / Polaris / Key65 / Unikorn / Poly Alice / 910 CE / GSKT-00

Offline voxkey

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
« Reply #223 on: Thu, 01 August 2019, 07:09:26 »
Is 910 plate compatible with Iron165?

No, completely different plate design.

Offline Solotov

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
« Reply #224 on: Thu, 01 August 2019, 07:26:28 »
Is 910 plate compatible with Iron165?

No, completely different plate design.

Thanks. One more question.
Will you provide typing sound comparing SE with FE version? Apart from aesthetic factor, I would like to know about acoustic factor as well.  :thumb:
HHKB2 / Zephyr / M65 / M60 / LZ MP / LZ CLSn / Kepler / Jane V2 CE / Orion V2 / Polaris / Key65 / Unikorn / Poly Alice / 910 CE / GSKT-00

Offline voxkey

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
« Reply #225 on: Thu, 01 August 2019, 07:35:24 »
Is 910 plate compatible with Iron165?

No, completely different plate design.

Thanks. One more question.
Will you provide typing sound comparing SE with FE version? Apart from aesthetic factor, I would like to know about acoustic factor as well.  :thumb:

Absolutely! We're really curious as well. We've prototyped every option and plan to test everything out.

Offline Solotov

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
« Reply #226 on: Thu, 01 August 2019, 09:46:02 »
Is 910 plate compatible with Iron165?

No, completely different plate design.

Thanks. One more question.
Will you provide typing sound comparing SE with FE version? Apart from aesthetic factor, I would like to know about acoustic factor as well.  :thumb:

Absolutely! We're really curious as well. We've prototyped every option and plan to test everything out.

Ayyy, sound great! Can't wait to see the updates on prototypes   :p
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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
« Reply #227 on: Thu, 01 August 2019, 17:25:22 »
Very interested in a ISO board! :D

Offline narunekogi

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (protos ordered, other updates)
« Reply #228 on: Sun, 04 August 2019, 05:52:03 »
Yes. Do want.

Offline voxkey

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #229 on: Sun, 04 August 2019, 21:17:27 »
Whoops, fixing
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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #230 on: Sun, 04 August 2019, 21:28:02 »
Whoops, fixing

Shipping separate? $30-50?

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #231 on: Sun, 04 August 2019, 21:30:59 »
$885 and $445. Wow. :(

I'm too broke to afford that. I'll see (IC) myself out.

Offline lbaron

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #232 on: Sun, 04 August 2019, 21:33:27 »
Whoops, fixing

Shipping separate? $30-50?

Yes, shipping will be separate and depend on where you live.  Shipping from Cannon Keys will mean that NE will be cheaper than say CA.

Offline jimboytacos

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #233 on: Sun, 04 August 2019, 21:53:48 »
When will raffles signups begin? And when will it be drawn?

Offline lbaron

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #234 on: Sun, 04 August 2019, 21:55:24 »
When will raffles signups begin? And when will it be drawn?

When the group buy launches we will do the raffle for the FE most likely the day before the SE goes on sale.  So for those that miss the FE they can still have option to try for the SE.  This will most likely happen in September.

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #235 on: Sun, 04 August 2019, 22:35:33 »
When will raffles signups begin? And when will it be drawn?

When the group buy launches we will do the raffle for the FE most likely the day before the SE goes on sale.  So for those that miss the FE they can still have option to try for the SE.  This will most likely happen in September.

Any idea on how long the FE raffle window will be open for? For example, will it be like keycults 10 min windows or something much longer?

Offline lbaron

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #236 on: Sun, 04 August 2019, 22:48:08 »
We will probably do a similar approach to account help mitigate alt accounts entering multiple times.

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #237 on: Sun, 04 August 2019, 23:00:19 »
NE luck avail

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« Reply #238 on: Sun, 04 August 2019, 23:03:07 »
Oh hell yes

Offline baye12928

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #239 on: Sun, 04 August 2019, 23:51:16 »
will Asian vendor be arranged? such as Z-frontier :))

Offline sozo

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #240 on: Mon, 05 August 2019, 01:27:02 »
Nice! I'll start saving up for that FE, as a birthday gift to myself!

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #241 on: Mon, 05 August 2019, 04:34:18 »
900 and 450 wow. I guess the Vendor wanted a hefty payday too

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #242 on: Mon, 05 August 2019, 04:41:55 »
900 and 450 wow. I guess the Vendor wanted a hefty payday too
I assume you've somehow obtained the manufacturing costs then?

Offline nguyenhimself

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #243 on: Mon, 05 August 2019, 04:45:39 »
Sometimes I look at expensive kits like Wilba's Thermal (which is still "just" $360 BTW) or the Keycult and think: "Ouch my wallet but yeah I can see why. Fair enough." (After-market price notwithstanding).

This? I dunno. Compared to contemporary keyboard kits, I'm yet able to see why this one is way over $400 yet.
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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #244 on: Mon, 05 August 2019, 05:03:14 »
I assume you've somehow obtained the manufacturing costs then?

Assume away.

Offline xantiema

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #245 on: Mon, 05 August 2019, 05:10:53 »
I assume you've somehow obtained the manufacturing costs then?

Assume away.

Exactly. The FE has a representing price for the materials chosen alongside the scarcity, not so much with the SE.

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #246 on: Mon, 05 August 2019, 05:15:10 »
I assume you've somehow obtained the manufacturing costs then?

Assume away.

Exactly. The FE has a representing price for the materials chosen alongside the scarcity, not so much with the SE.

NO!

Offline SoraNoTenshi

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #247 on: Mon, 05 August 2019, 05:45:47 »
If more information about a EU Vendor are there... i might reconsider my max price / kit...
45$ more shouldn't destroy my finances... :D


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« Reply #248 on: Mon, 05 August 2019, 05:58:45 »
If more information about a EU Vendor are there... i might reconsider my max price / kit...
45$ more shouldn't destroy my finances... :D

yeah you pay 500 for a keeb and then worry for 45 :D pls

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« Reply #249 on: Mon, 05 August 2019, 07:30:19 »
If more information about a EU Vendor are there... i might reconsider my max price / kit...
45$ more shouldn't destroy my finances... :D

yeah you pay 500 for a keeb and then worry for 45 :D pls

11% before taxes is nothing to scoff at.