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[IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 08:16:52 »
I welcome you to the interest check for SP SA Yuri and potentially DCS ALPS Yuri.

The group buy is scheduled for this autumn on Drop.

The main keyset in this topic is SP SA Yuri and DCS ALPS Yuri is a secondary goal which should be kept in mind. Since ALPS sets are rare - i thought this would be a good experiment to try out and it gives alps users an opportunity.
Anyway enough of talk and Yuri exists already in cherry profile - so i think everyone knows what this keyset is about. If not then google for Yuri Gagarin ;)

SP SA Yuri

Alphas

Cyrillics

Cosmos

Dual Cosmos

Modifiers kit

Cyrillic modifiers kit

Dual modifiers kit

Numpad kit

Ergodox kit

40%

Novelties

Die Kirsche

ISO UK

Spacebars

Spacekeys



DCS ALPS Yuri
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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 08:17:17 »
занято!

Oh look i still have that render from Oblotzky
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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 08:19:12 »
Glorious! Canít wait.

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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 08:20:01 »
Definitely very interested in this keyset, I love the colourway. ISO support would be great for the SA set.

Looking forward to it.

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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 08:22:44 »
Neat... would love more yuri

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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 08:24:31 »
Yes please!

Will these be custom colours or any standard SP colours?

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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 08:24:43 »
Original Sa!!!

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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 08:30:51 »
Yes please!

Will these be custom colours or any standard SP colours?

Original SP colors ;) Despite Yuri was designed as GMK set in first place, i took the SP colors and SP samples were also used to create GMK custom colors.

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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 08:31:18 »
Iím not super interested in SA but +1 for DCS Alps

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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 08:35:08 »
Will make a shrine for tombery if he pulls off the DCS Yuri set.

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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 08:35:24 »
I look forward for ALPS  :thumb: :thumb: good job :thumb: :eek:

Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #11 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 08:36:34 »
100% in for the Alps set if it goes to GB.

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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #12 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 08:37:22 »
Very interested in DCS Alps too.

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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #13 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 08:38:38 »
Very interested in Cyrilic. It would be great if a second 1.5u blank could be added to ortho/40% kit for the likes of CRKB, Atreus, etc.

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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #14 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 08:46:07 »
занято!

Oh look i still have that render from Oblotzky
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Curious about the origin of the hammer and sickle in the render?

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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #15 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 08:47:35 »
Update

40%
- added additional 1.5u blank key


DCS ALPS Yuri
- added missing none accent escape key.

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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #16 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 08:48:10 »
занято!

Oh look i still have that render from Oblotzky
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Curious about the origin of the hammer and sickle in the render?
It was a nod to the Glorious keys kit in the GMK Drop

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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #17 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 08:48:43 »
занято!

Oh look i still have that render from Oblotzky
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Curious about the origin of the hammer and sickle in the render?

Its from glorious kit. It will be added later.

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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #18 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 08:51:58 »
занято!

Oh look i still have that render from Oblotzky
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Curious about the origin of the hammer and sickle in the render?

Its from glorious kit. It will be added later.

Nice.

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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #19 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 08:52:16 »
Did he just say DCS ALPS YURI?! 


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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #20 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 08:53:56 »
Yes, please!

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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #21 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 09:01:05 »
The 40s kit pretty much fills ortho mods, but would it be possible to add a 1u backslash and ď key in mod colors to round it out? Or better yet, add an ortho kit? Iím getting this either way, but donít want to have to get the cosmo kit to make it work.

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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #22 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 09:02:15 »
Wow, never saw this coming!
Hope the DCS set makes it to the GB.


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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #23 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 09:14:28 »
ne glorious kit avail
Edit: Just saw Tomb3ry's comment on it
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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #24 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 09:19:42 »
The 40s kit pretty much fills ortho mods, but would it be possible to add a 1u backslash and ď key in mod colors to round it out? Or better yet, add an ortho kit? Iím getting this either way, but donít want to have to get the cosmo kit to make it work.

I will add those keys in the next update.

ne glorious kit avail

In the next update probably. Most probably glorious keys would be only available in Yuri colors and its going to be part of Novelties. In GMK Yuri i did Glorious keys also for other keysets (like the salty kit in carbon) but SP (or rather their plastic supplier) is inconsistent if it comes to colors and thus the glorious keys would not match the keysets which were produced before.

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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #25 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 09:22:13 »
The Alps kit...  :eek:

Let's hope SP can be gentle with the pricing

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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #26 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 09:24:40 »
The Alps kit...  :eek:

Let's hope SP can be gentle with the pricing
Lol SP pricing makes GMK seem like it's made in China

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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #27 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 09:41:22 »
Very nice. Could we have the Colevrak kit for SA English Alphas? And the Glorious kit like GMK please.
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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #28 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 09:42:32 »
Might have gotten the ortho kit, but an orange esc and no orange enter key would look just too unbalanced.

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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #29 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 09:49:44 »
Would it be possible to have DCS Alps that uses Alps stabilizers for better compatibility?

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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #30 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 09:51:19 »
Would it be possible to add cosmos color to the spacekeys kit?

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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #31 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 09:59:18 »
Thank you for your work, Tom! Will buy as many as I could to support you, as always. 👍
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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #32 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 10:07:50 »
Ne colevrak kit?

I'm interested either way.

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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #33 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 10:12:11 »
Definitely in! Is cosmos missing a matching 6.25u and 7u spacebar? Or are we supposed to just use orange? Would be nice to have a matching spacebar for a complete mono look.

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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #34 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 10:20:16 »
Very nice. Could we have the Colevrak kit for SA English Alphas? And the Glorious kit like GMK please.

Ne colevrak kit?

I'm interested either way.

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Sorry but i am not supporting colevrak and international kits anymore, due to the chronical unfulfillment of the MOQ for those kits. If there is not enough interest/demand in those kits then i am not going to offer those. Yuri is also not that popular as Laser or Oblivion and in those drops colevrak and international kits did it tightly.

Regarding the glorious kit. SP is inconsistent if it comes to colors and two different color batches for the same color code might differ in shade from each other. Say if i produce glorious keys for a set which was done time ago then there is a high chance what you will see a shade difference. Thus i will offer only glorious keys for Yuri. GMK on the other hand is very consistent ;)

Would it be possible to add cosmos color to the spacekeys kit?

I'll look into it.

Would it be possible to have DCS Alps that uses Alps stabilizers for better compatibility?

AFAIK DCS ALPS offers only cherry stabs compatibility. Source: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62274.0
Otherwise making alps stab compatibility would cost a fortune.

Might have gotten the ortho kit, but an orange esc and no orange enter key would look just too unbalanced.

I will add that orange enter key in the next update.

Definitely in! Is cosmos missing a matching 6.25u and 7u spacebar? Or are we supposed to just use orange? Would be nice to have a matching spacebar for a complete mono look.

I will add the missing colors for spacebars and spacekeys in the next possible update.

Thank you for your work, Tom! Will buy as many as I could to support you, as always. 👍

Thanks for support buddy  ;)  :thumb:


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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #35 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 10:31:13 »


No no-accent R3 Esc?

I kind of disagree with including only mod colored spacebars here instead of the accent kit, that would be like including a mod colored 6.25U space bar with the modifier kit.

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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #36 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 10:34:30 »
i cant stand typing on SA. too bad yuri is dope

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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #37 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 10:41:46 »

Sorry but i am not supporting colevrak and international kits anymore, due to the chronical unfulfillment of the MOQ for those kits. If there is not enough interest/demand in those kits then i am not going to offer those. Yuri is also not that popular as Laser or Oblivion and in those drops colevrak and international kits did it tightly.


Since SP could have low MOQ, I think that Yuri is popular enough to sell at least 25 or more units at a higher(but still reasonable) price or so, even if it does not reach more than 50. But it's your design and up to you to make the decision. Thanks.


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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #38 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 10:42:39 »
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No no-accent R3 Esc?

I kind of disagree with including only mod colored spacebars here instead of the accent kit, that would be like including a mod colored 6.25U space bar with the modifier kit.

Non-accent R3 Esc will be added in the next update.

regarding the mod colored spacebars i need to rework the spacebar distribution across the kits.

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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #39 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 10:46:35 »
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No no-accent R3 Esc?

I kind of disagree with including only mod colored spacebars here instead of the accent kit, that would be like including a mod colored 6.25U space bar with the modifier kit.

Non-accent R3 Esc will be added in the next update.

regarding the mod colored spacebars i need to rework the spacebar distribution across the kits.


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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #40 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 10:49:34 »

DCS ALPS Yuri
As i said DCS ALPS Yuri is experimental set and i am offering only one base kit. I am not planning to add more kits for DCS ALPS!
I am also not sure about the font. As you can see i made it cherry like and making all the new legends might make this kit very expensive. So there are things to think about... It is quite possible that i will discard whole DCS ALPS idea if the pricing goes too high.
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I am in for Alps DCS!  Can I just give you my money now instead of waiting until autumn?

Does the Alps set need to have the Cherry font?  I would be fine with whatever font SP has.  I'm assuming it would look something like Midnight DCS set.

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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #41 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 10:54:07 »

DCS ALPS Yuri
As i said DCS ALPS Yuri is experimental set and i am offering only one base kit. I am not planning to add more kits for DCS ALPS!
I am also not sure about the font. As you can see i made it cherry like and making all the new legends might make this kit very expensive. So there are things to think about... It is quite possible that i will discard whole DCS ALPS idea if the pricing goes too high.
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I am in for Alps DCS!  Can I just give you my money now instead of waiting until autumn?

Does the Alps set need to have the Cherry font?  I would be fine with whatever font SP has.  I'm assuming it would look something like Midnight DCS set.

Signature plastics has a Cherry replica font.

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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #42 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 10:54:56 »
Holy **** DCS Alps

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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #43 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 10:57:41 »
I might be misinterpreting it, but are you offering only one dcs alps base kit for everyone to fight for? Or, is it a moq alps base kit only set?

Aside that, I hope you get the green light for this!

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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #44 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 10:58:44 »

Definitely in! Is cosmos missing a matching 6.25u and 7u spacebar? Or are we supposed to just use orange? Would be nice to have a matching spacebar for a complete mono look.

I will add the missing colors for spacebars and spacekeys in the next possible update.

Oh yeah! Thanks, Iím super excited for an SA version. Time to start hyping this up.  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #45 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 10:59:33 »

Sorry but i am not supporting colevrak and international kits anymore, due to the chronical unfulfillment of the MOQ for those kits. If there is not enough interest/demand in those kits then i am not going to offer those. Yuri is also not that popular as Laser or Oblivion and in those drops colevrak and international kits did it tightly.


Since SP could have low MOQ, I think that Yuri is popular enough to sell at least 25 or more units at a higher(but still reasonable) price or so, even if it does not reach more than 50. But it's your design and up to you to make the decision. Thanks.





Thats the dilemma here, with lower moq the pricing will go up and i am not sure if people who are really interested in getting Yuri with colevrak will still be ready to get it. And MOQ of 50 is too high. Realistically it would be MOQ of 25. There are also Cyrillic alphas which do rival (because its an alternative) the colevrak and international kit. Cyrillic (if you don't really use it for Russian layout) can be used like blanks and do fit that way any layout.

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No no-accent R3 Esc?

I kind of disagree with including only mod colored spacebars here instead of the accent kit, that would be like including a mod colored 6.25U space bar with the modifier kit.

Non-accent R3 Esc will be added in the next update.

regarding the mod colored spacebars i need to rework the spacebar distribution across the kits.

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DCS ALPS Yuri
As i said DCS ALPS Yuri is experimental set and i am offering only one base kit. I am not planning to add more kits for DCS ALPS!
I am also not sure about the font. As you can see i made it cherry like and making all the new legends might make this kit very expensive. So there are things to think about... It is quite possible that i will discard whole DCS ALPS idea if the pricing goes too high.
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I am in for Alps DCS!  Can I just give you my money now instead of waiting until autumn?

Does the Alps set need to have the Cherry font?  I would be fine with whatever font SP has.  I'm assuming it would look something like Midnight DCS set.

I think it does not need the font tho i really prefer the font. The thing is, i have to see that SP got and i will decide later. Otherwise the cherry font would make it all more expensive because every key will be a custom legend.

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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #46 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 11:05:15 »
I might be misinterpreting it, but are you offering only one dcs alps base kit for everyone to fight for? Or, is it a moq alps base kit only set?

Aside that, I hope you get the green light for this!

Every kit has its own MOQ. So there will be no fighting. If someone wants the DCS ALPS Yuri he gets just that kit.


DCS ALPS Yuri
As i said DCS ALPS Yuri is experimental set and i am offering only one base kit. I am not planning to add more kits for DCS ALPS!
I am also not sure about the font. As you can see i made it cherry like and making all the new legends might make this kit very expensive. So there are things to think about... It is quite possible that i will discard whole DCS ALPS idea if the pricing goes too high.
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I am in for Alps DCS!  Can I just give you my money now instead of waiting until autumn?

Does the Alps set need to have the Cherry font?  I would be fine with whatever font SP has.  I'm assuming it would look something like Midnight DCS set.

Signature plastics has a Cherry replica font.

Yes that's true but it belongs to another designer and i need a permission to reuse it. Otherwise i have to make my own "cherry replica". I mean i have my cherry font but as you know it would cost something since basically whole DCS ALPS Yuri set will require custom legends.

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[IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #47 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 11:09:10 »
I love that you care about fonts, but honestly we Alps folks are so thirsty for new keycaps we will be fine with any font as long as this set is made reality.
This is exciting.

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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #48 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 11:29:36 »

Does the Alps set need to have the Cherry font?  I would be fine with whatever font SP has.  I'm assuming it would look something like Midnight DCS set.

I think it does not need the font tho i really prefer the font. The thing is, i have to see that SP got and i will decide later. Otherwise the cherry font would make it all more expensive because every key will be a custom legend.

I love that you care about fonts, but honestly we Alps folks are so thirsty for new keycaps we will be fine with any font as long as this set is made reality.
This is exciting.


That could not have been said better.

My suggestion for using a standard SP font was only intended as a failsafe in case this set gets too expensive.  My preference is to have this set look the way you envision.

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Re: [IC] SP SA Yuri / DCS ALPS Yuri
« Reply #49 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 11:33:57 »
Im in for Alps. I assume is going to be abs doubleshot right?