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[GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 09:15:54 »






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Key 65 is featured with the three-layer case and dual-gasket structure. The plate mounting system is an improved version of the gasket sandwich on Leaf 60. In addition, we add gaskets between the middle case and the bottom case. There's an optional rubber sheet between the PCB and the plate. The numerous options will offer you the most freedom to make the keyboard look and feel as you wish.

This GB is the most sophisticated one we've run so far. It could also be the most sophisticated GB in the keyboard history. For each of the three layers of the case, you can choose from 3 materials, 3 finishes, and 9 colors. There are two versions of weights and 6 versions of the top cases. If we count all the options available to choose, the number of possible combinations is around 400 million. We are crazy enough to run the GB in this way. Now we invite you to be a part of this historical crazy GB.

Price:
  • The price for the regular kit is $295 excluding PayPal fee and shipping
  • Upgrade to brass plate: $27
  • Upgrade to titanium plate: $40
  • Upgrade to brass weight: $35
  • Extra PCB: $36
  • The estimated shipping fee for a regular kit is $40. You'll be inviced again before shipping.

Timeline:
  • GB opens for two weeks.
  • The lead time is estimated to be 3 months after GB closes. There might be delays due to the complexity of this GB.



QA

Q: Color samples?
A:
E-White: https://imgur.com/WR1gW3B
E-Yellow: https://imgur.com/rQMhw50
E-Red: https://imgur.com/TReEOoE
E-Black: https://imgur.com/WFypGrT
E-Pink: https://imgur.com/xgr0992
E-Teal: https://imgur.com/BYFr4cK
Anodizing Blue: https://imgur.com/EjaqDG8
Anodizing Grey: https://imgur.com/7rl51AR
Anodizing Midnight Green: https://imgur.com/9tSLeDU
POM Red: https://imgur.com/4jlSRpw
POM Yellow: https://imgur.com/5TVyYd0
PC clear: https://imgur.com/WNGRVpm

Q: What does the XXX combination will look like? Can you make a prototype or render with this combination?
A: No. I understand it's not easy to imagine how your combination will look like and it's important to you. I'll update some more photos and renders in one day or two. However, we are not able to do this for everyone. I suggest you choose the same color for the top and middle cases.

Q: What are the top case layouts?
A: WKL cases have the left blocker and WK cases don't.
6.25u spacebar layout -> choose WK top case
7u spacebar layout with left blocker -> choose WKL top case
7u spacebar layout without left blocker -> choose WK top case

Q: What are the logo options on top case?
A:

Above is the No logo version

Above is the Key logo version (sorry for the upsidedown plate)

Above is the Kanji logo version

Q: What's the difference between POM and PC?
A: They are very similar in terms of density and finish.

Q: Does E-coating brass parts look the same with E-coating aluminum?
A: Very similar.

The weight on the bottom is E-white brass. The case on top is E-white aluminum.

Q: How can I choose the plate materials?
A: The sound and feel are all subjective. If you don't have a preference, aluminum is the safe choice.

Q: What is Electrophoresis Clear?
A: E-clear is a clear Electrophoresis coating. It's clear so the part will show its original color. This is how it looks on brass parts.
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Q: What does the titanium plate look?
A:
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Q: What are the plate layouts?
A: 
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7u spacebar version plate.

6.25u spacebar + split spacebar version plate.


Q: Do I need to customize the top right Key logo if I chose Kanji/No logo top? Do I need to customize the key logo on the weight if I chose the Kanji weight?
A: No and no.

Q: What are the weight versions:
A:

Above is the Kanji version weight

Above is the Key version weight

Q: Can I order an extra weight/logo/top case?
A: No, for the sake of simplicity. We are dealing with 400 million possible combinations and we don't want to add more.

Q: Can I order more than one extra PCBs/plates?
A: No, for the sake of simplicity. We are dealing with 400 million possible combinations and we don't want to add more.

Q: PCB layout
A:
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Universal PCB

Hotswap PCB


Q: ALPS support?
A: Supported by the universal PCB but not by plates. I'll share the plate file before the GB closes.

Q: ISO support?
A: Supported by the universal PCB but not by plates. I'll share the plate file before the GB closes.



Structure diagram











For more photos, check this album.



Update 1: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102609.msg2838182#msg2838182
Update 2: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102609.msg2842873#msg2842873
Update 3: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102609.msg2856492#msg2856492
« Last Edit: Tue, 21 January 2020, 19:25:50 by senter »

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 10:40:27 »
Approved!
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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 10:47:19 »
Can we get a photo of the PCB too, please?

And yes, let's go!!

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 10:47:59 »
Yes!!! Been waiting for this!! So many combinations, this is such a tough choice...

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 10:52:21 »
Awesome! I'm really pumped!

Are renders/samples available for all of the colors? There are way more colors here than I anticipated.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 10:54:41 »
Super excited for this, now to spend hours thinking about what colors and combinations I want.
 

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 10:55:46 »
What firmware will the PCB use?

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 10:57:23 »
Awesome! I'm really pumped!

Are renders/samples available for all of the colors? There are way more colors here than I anticipated.

Seconded. Doesn't need to be exact but I'm super curious what shade of green we are talking.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 11:01:39 »
Nice! I gotta make sure not to screw up what I want 😂

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 11:04:52 »
Form filled and submitted!

Went with black top and middle, white bottom, and black weight. WK Kanji logo and PC plate.

Shipping when.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #10 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 11:07:01 »

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #11 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 11:07:45 »
Can we get a photo of the PCB too, please?

And yes, let's go!!



will have the hotswap version on Sunday.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #12 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 11:08:30 »
I am in for WKL hotswap, Full PC case, teal plate, teal weight, with Brass key logos on both sides  :D stoked

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #13 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 11:10:03 »
Awesome! I'm really pumped!

Are renders/samples available for all of the colors? There are way more colors here than I anticipated.

I should have photos/renders for all the colors except the midnight green. will post later.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 11:10:28 »

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #15 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 11:14:42 »
wanna know the degree and what the middle plate part is.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #16 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 11:25:38 »
Looks amazing, so many options! Really looking forward to seeing this in person

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #17 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 11:28:05 »
Awesome! I'm really pumped!

Are renders/samples available for all of the colors? There are way more colors here than I anticipated.

I should have photos/renders for all the colors except the midnight green. will post later.

So since you don't have photos/renders of midnight green, could you describe it for me?
Is it Kelly green?
https://www.canva.com/colors/color-meanings/kelly-green/

Is it midnight green like this hex?
https://www.colorhexa.com/004953

or is it something else entirely.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #18 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 11:38:45 »
Just filled out the GB form! Can't wait for this board, going with an all pink board with black inserts and a PC plate! I'll either use this board with GMK Blink or  another keyset I have in mind that I need to IC first.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #19 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 11:41:22 »
Looks really cool! With split space is 6.25 or 7 better?

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #20 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 11:41:36 »
wanna know the degree and what the middle plate part is.

Yeah, I'm curious by what the middle case is, I filled the form out and had trouble on choosing a color for that part. Hopefully I made the right choice because I'm not sure if I can edit the form.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #21 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 11:43:05 »
Oh one thing, a rubber layer between pcb and plate was mentioned in the OP but I can't find it on the form. How much would it cost extra?

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #22 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 11:45:29 »
How much is the additional plate?

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #23 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 11:49:25 »
Awesome! I'm really pumped!

Are renders/samples available for all of the colors? There are way more colors here than I anticipated.

I should have photos/renders for all the colors except the midnight green. will post later.

So since you don't have photos/renders of midnight green, could you describe it for me?
Is it Kelly green?
https://www.canva.com/colors/color-meanings/kelly-green/

Is it midnight green like this hex?
https://www.colorhexa.com/004953

or is it something else entirely.

updated in OP

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #24 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 11:50:18 »
Looks really cool! With split space is 6.25 or 7 better?

Split space is only for 6.25u spacebar layout.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #25 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 11:54:48 »
wanna know the degree and what the middle plate part is.

The degree is 7

Do you mean the middle case?


It's the part in the left bottom.


side view

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #26 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 11:57:18 »
https://imgur.com/7rl51AR
I think there is not Anodizing Blue color sample.
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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #27 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 12:02:31 »
« Last Edit: Wed, 25 September 2019, 12:04:09 by senter »

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #28 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 12:03:02 »
Looks really cool! With split space is 6.25 or 7 better?

Split space is only for 6.25u spacebar layout.
So no WKL for split spacebar?

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #29 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 12:05:06 »
Looks really cool! With split space is 6.25 or 7 better?

Split space is only for 6.25u spacebar layout.
So no WKL for split spacebar?

Here is the universal PCB layout: https://i.imgur.com/MQTZV0o.png

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #30 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 12:05:42 »
Is there an order limit or is this GB open for two weeks with no cut-off?

Looks attractive, but I'm still debating on options.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #31 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 12:05:57 »
Oh one thing, a rubber layer between pcb and plate was mentioned in the OP but I can't find it on the form. How much would it cost extra?

It's free and everyone gets it.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #32 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 12:06:15 »
Looks really cool! With split space is 6.25 or 7 better?

Split space is only for 6.25u spacebar layout.
So no WKL for split spacebar?

Here is the universal PCB layout: https://i.imgur.com/MQTZV0o.png
The 'customize' the plate field indicates the 6.25u is not compatible with WKL top

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #33 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 12:07:30 »
I'm a noob here.  I'm looking fwd to this as to hopefully be my first custom build.  It looks amazing.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #34 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 12:09:09 »
Is there an order limit or is this GB open for two weeks with no cut-off?

Looks attractive, but I'm still debating on options.

I don't think the sale will go beyond our ability but if it happens I may close the form.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #35 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 12:10:57 »
When does invoicing begin?

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #36 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 12:14:12 »
Here is a crappy mock up how the PC case could look with the yellow PCB inside. Maybe someone will find this helpful in their decision making.

« Last Edit: Wed, 25 September 2019, 12:16:25 by Fnzzy »
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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #37 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 12:23:38 »
Wow! the number of options is mind-blowing!

So, I ordered 4 sets (4 form responses). However, I haven't got any confirmation emails from Google forms (I guess you set it that way?).
Is there any way I can see the forms I filled? My paranoid self is quite afraid that I might have made a mistake or two.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #38 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 12:41:34 »
Are there any renders that show some side views for non clear materials? I would like to see how much of each layer is visible.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #40 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 12:44:47 »
Do you have a discord server?

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #41 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 12:49:24 »
will the hot-swap PCB have sockets for both alps and MX?

edit: nvm just read alps is only on universal PCB
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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #42 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 12:52:58 »
Form filled out! In!

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #43 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 13:01:09 »
How do i delete my order?

Was tryjng to order 2pcs and i messed up both of them. :/

I want to start fresh.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #44 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 13:12:25 »
Curious as to how I can double check/edit my order

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #45 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 13:12:44 »
Innnnn! I really like the FOX logo and many styles that we can choose!  :thumb:
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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #46 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 13:28:50 »
Anyone have experience typing on a titanium plate?

To OP:  It would be great to see a profile or 3/4 view of the board with different top, middle, and bottom colors so we can all see precisely how the transition between the 3 elements looks.  Similar to the PC side view pic.
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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #47 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 13:30:45 »
Are there any renders that show some side views for non clear materials? I would like to see how much of each layer is visible.

+1 :)

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #48 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 13:30:52 »
Anyone have experience typing on a titanium plate?

To OP:  It would be great to see a profile or 3/4 view of the board with different top, middle, and bottom colors so we can all see precisely how the transition between the 3 elements looks.

Agreed on the profile view with 3 different colours

@OP this is just Wow impressive. GLGB!

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #49 on: Wed, 25 September 2019, 13:37:49 »
What is the cost for the extra plates? I realise the cost to upgrade, but not the cost for the extra.
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