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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #150 on: Fri, 27 September 2019, 22:49:57 »
Good news, E-Clear finish has been upgraded.



We've added an additional process before applying E-Clear so it will look cleaner!

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #151 on: Sat, 28 September 2019, 01:43:20 »
Also please take a picture of the sides of one of the prototypes, I want to see how the middle piece looks in regards to the top and bottom so I can decide on a colour, thanks!

To add to this request, would it be possible to take a side pic with the middle piece being a different color than the top and bottom?  It would help determine if I would want to just match it with the top or experiment with the color.

Also please take a picture of the sides of one of the prototypes, I want to see how the middle piece looks in regards to the top and bottom so I can decide on a colour, thanks!

To add to this request, would it be possible to take a side pic with the middle piece being a different color than the top and bottom?  It would help determine if I would want to just match it with the top or experiment with the color.
This !

Sure. I'm working on it. Here's an example. I'll update more when I get time.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #152 on: Sat, 28 September 2019, 03:00:30 »
Is it possible to see a render/picture of the full PC keyboard (top, middle and bottom case), without the left blocker and with the kanji logo on both top and weight?
   

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #153 on: Sat, 28 September 2019, 03:03:15 »
Good news, E-Clear finish has been upgraded.

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We've added an additional process before applying E-Clear so it will look cleaner!
Wait you're showing an ISO compatible plate ! Is that the new plate for this GB ?
Edit : nevermind can't be, there's one vertical row missing
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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #154 on: Sat, 28 September 2019, 05:16:13 »
Hey senter, why doesnít the universal plate have the relief cuts like the 7u plate?

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #155 on: Sat, 28 September 2019, 06:14:08 »
How heavy will alu/pc be?

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #156 on: Sat, 28 September 2019, 07:03:11 »
Also please take a picture of the sides of one of the prototypes, I want to see how the middle piece looks in regards to the top and bottom so I can decide on a colour, thanks!

To add to this request, would it be possible to take a side pic with the middle piece being a different color than the top and bottom?  It would help determine if I would want to just match it with the top or experiment with the color.

Also please take a picture of the sides of one of the prototypes, I want to see how the middle piece looks in regards to the top and bottom so I can decide on a colour, thanks!

To add to this request, would it be possible to take a side pic with the middle piece being a different color than the top and bottom?  It would help determine if I would want to just match it with the top or experiment with the color.
This !

Sure. I'm working on it. Here's an example. I'll update more when I get time.

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Can you provide a pic of the front and sides of the board? I want to know how mixed colors of top and middle case look.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #157 on: Sat, 28 September 2019, 08:51:46 »
I'm definitely thinking about joining this GB. Ive been eyeing up a PC board for awhile now. My main question is with the Key Logo in the upper right. If I understand correctly, the actual key logo is a separate piece of aluminum that is inserted into the board. Is the cutting process for this going to be handled well by the poly carbonate making up the board? 

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #158 on: Sat, 28 September 2019, 11:46:55 »
"I'm done with buying new boards this year."

Well that was a fun thought.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #159 on: Sat, 28 September 2019, 12:11:45 »
Just realized I didnt receive a copy of the google form I filled out and sent. Now I'm not sure if my submission went through. :-[

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #160 on: Sat, 28 September 2019, 12:13:17 »
Just realized I didnt receive a copy of the google form I filled out and sent. Now I'm not sure if my submission went through. :-[
Send Senter a Msg. The first few orders didnt recieve a confirmation, you'll have to have him reset it.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #161 on: Sat, 28 September 2019, 14:58:55 »
Sent my order out. This is going to be my first custom build. I'm pretty excited. Went for a mostly white with a bit of black all-aluminium set with the key logo and I'm putting KAT Milkshake on it. :)

Is shipping to Poland going to cost ~$40 too?
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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #162 on: Sat, 28 September 2019, 17:17:53 »
have any pics of the split spacebar?

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #163 on: Sat, 28 September 2019, 19:34:33 »
I'm definitely thinking about joining this GB. Ive been eyeing up a PC board for awhile now. My main question is with the Key Logo in the upper right. If I understand correctly, the actual key logo is a separate piece of aluminum that is inserted into the board. Is the cutting process for this going to be handled well by the poly carbonate making up the board?

The Key logo is screwed on.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #164 on: Sat, 28 September 2019, 19:36:05 »
I've added an album in OP with more photos.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #165 on: Sat, 28 September 2019, 19:38:04 »
have any pics of the split spacebar?

I don't quite understand your question. Do you mean fully assembled keyboard with split spacebar layout and caps on? The answer is no if that's what you asked.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #166 on: Sat, 28 September 2019, 20:15:22 »
Do you have a Picture of pc with kanji in the top right?

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #167 on: Sat, 28 September 2019, 20:19:52 »
Hi Senter,

Can you comment on the amount of flex in aluminium and PC plate choice?
Is it indeed noticeable?

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #168 on: Sat, 28 September 2019, 21:10:01 »
Really appreciate the attention to all questions Senter!

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #169 on: Sat, 28 September 2019, 21:36:41 »
Nice touch with the album, much clearer view now


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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #170 on: Sat, 28 September 2019, 21:40:38 »
Do you have a Picture of pc with kanji in the top right?

No as we didn't make a prototype like that  :-X

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #171 on: Sat, 28 September 2019, 21:41:42 »
Hi Senter,

Can you comment on the amount of flex in aluminium and PC plate choice?
Is it indeed noticeable?

Yes, it's noticeable. The sound is noticeably different as well.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #172 on: Sat, 28 September 2019, 23:13:18 »
When you get pictures of the hotswap pcb, can you take a pic of both front and back? I'm trying to picture what you mean when you say leds strips can be added later. That said, are underglow smd's absolutely off the table? I saw a prior post where you say they have a high failure rate but a lot of the other high end boards(e6.5 and think6.5) as well as lower end boards have underglow with no obvious issues. I've been intrigued by gasket mount and PC cases so this checks all my marks except the missing underglow.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #173 on: Sun, 29 September 2019, 03:48:32 »
I'm definitely thinking about joining this GB. Ive been eyeing up a PC board for awhile now. My main question is with the Key Logo in the upper right. If I understand correctly, the actual key logo is a separate piece of aluminum that is inserted into the board. Is the cutting process for this going to be handled well by the poly carbonate making up the board?

The Key logo is screwed on.
So if itís screwed on that means we could opt in for it and unscrew it to remove it if we wanted too?


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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #174 on: Sun, 29 September 2019, 05:04:36 »
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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #175 on: Sun, 29 September 2019, 05:26:18 »
Is there midnight green Brass-Electrophoresis plate option?

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #176 on: Sun, 29 September 2019, 05:56:36 »
Is there midnight green Brass-Electrophoresis plate option?

Midnight green is an anodised colour, so I doubt it.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #177 on: Sun, 29 September 2019, 09:35:30 »
Really appreciate the attention to all questions Senter!

seconded!

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #178 on: Sun, 29 September 2019, 09:48:33 »
I'm definitely thinking about joining this GB. Ive been eyeing up a PC board for awhile now. My main question is with the Key Logo in the upper right. If I understand correctly, the actual key logo is a separate piece of aluminum that is inserted into the board. Is the cutting process for this going to be handled well by the poly carbonate making up the board?

The Key logo is screwed on.
So if itís screwed on that means we could opt in for it and unscrew it to remove it if we wanted too?


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The blocker will still be there. Just the logo portion is screwed in for a seperate colour.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #179 on: Sun, 29 September 2019, 14:29:42 »
When you get pictures of the hotswap pcb, can you take a pic of both front and back? I'm trying to picture what you mean when you say leds strips can be added later. That said, are underglow smd's absolutely off the table? I saw a prior post where you say they have a high failure rate but a lot of the other high end boards(e6.5 and think6.5) as well as lower end boards have underglow with no obvious issues. I've been intrigued by gasket mount and PC cases so this checks all my marks except the missing underglow.

Sure. I'll post later when I receive the prototype.

I mean something like this



The difference is that you don't need to solder the wire on the MCU.

Here's a photo of a Leaf 60 PCB.



Can you see the VOG pads? They are for soldering the WS2812 LED strips.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #180 on: Sun, 29 September 2019, 14:30:56 »
I'm definitely thinking about joining this GB. Ive been eyeing up a PC board for awhile now. My main question is with the Key Logo in the upper right. If I understand correctly, the actual key logo is a separate piece of aluminum that is inserted into the board. Is the cutting process for this going to be handled well by the poly carbonate making up the board?

The Key logo is screwed on.
So if itís screwed on that means we could opt in for it and unscrew it to remove it if we wanted too?


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If you remove it, there's a slot on the top right.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #181 on: Sun, 29 September 2019, 14:31:31 »
Is there midnight green Brass-Electrophoresis plate option?

There's no Electrophoresis midnight green option.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #182 on: Sun, 29 September 2019, 14:52:29 »
When I choose PC plate, Is there anything that speaks against the rubber sheet between the plate and PCB look-wise?

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #183 on: Sun, 29 September 2019, 15:13:24 »
Am I looking at the layouts correctly that the hotswap PCB does not support split backspace?

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #184 on: Sun, 29 September 2019, 16:12:12 »
When you get pictures of the hotswap pcb, can you take a pic of both front and back? I'm trying to picture what you mean when you say leds strips can be added later. That said, are underglow smd's absolutely off the table? I saw a prior post where you say they have a high failure rate but a lot of the other high end boards(e6.5 and think6.5) as well as lower end boards have underglow with no obvious issues. I've been intrigued by gasket mount and PC cases so this checks all my marks except the missing underglow.

Sure. I'll post later when I receive the prototype.

I mean something like this

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The difference is that you don't need to solder the wire on the MCU.

Here's a photo of a Leaf 60 PCB.

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Can you see the VOG pads? They are for soldering the WS2812 LED strips.

Got it, so looks like it'll be simple but a bit ghetto looking compared to presoldered smds. Totally understand tho, thanks for the reply!

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #185 on: Sun, 29 September 2019, 18:54:46 »
Am I looking at the layouts correctly that the hotswap PCB does not support split backspace?
I'm pretty sure the sockets would interfere with the mounting holes if they were to accommodate both layouts. They had to go with either one of them and they chose full backspace.
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[GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #186 on: Sun, 29 September 2019, 20:31:10 »
You got a fully built one with sound clips? Maybe send one to taehatypes


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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #187 on: Sun, 29 September 2019, 20:32:13 »
You got a fully built one yet and sound clips? Maybe send one to taehatypes


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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #188 on: Sun, 29 September 2019, 20:34:25 »
Iím fighting the urge to buy right now, spent a lot of money this past two and a half weeks


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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #189 on: Sun, 29 September 2019, 21:49:50 »


The hotswap prototype PCB is finished as well. Will test it later.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #190 on: Sun, 29 September 2019, 21:56:01 »
When I choose PC plate, Is there anything that speaks against the rubber sheet between the plate and PCB look-wise?

I haven't decided yet on the exact material of the sheet. The original plan was to use some kinds of foams. It turned out to be very difficult to cut the foams precisely. Laser doesn't work well on most foam materials. My last choice is clear rubber sheets which will work without problems.

The optional sheet will change how the plate looks when you use PC plates.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #191 on: Sun, 29 September 2019, 21:57:26 »
Am I looking at the layouts correctly that the hotswap PCB does not support split backspace?

Am I looking at the layouts correctly that the hotswap PCB does not support split backspace?
I'm pretty sure the sockets would interfere with the mounting holes if they were to accommodate both layouts. They had to go with either one of them and they chose full backspace.

This. The split-spacebar can only be either 6.25u or 7u, not both. We chose 6.25u.

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #192 on: Sun, 29 September 2019, 23:01:48 »
I can't decide on the top and middle case colors. Should I go for Teal/Teal or Teal/Black?

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #193 on: Sun, 29 September 2019, 23:57:32 »
Am I looking at the layouts correctly that the hotswap PCB does not support split backspace?

Am I looking at the layouts correctly that the hotswap PCB does not support split backspace?
I'm pretty sure the sockets would interfere with the mounting holes if they were to accommodate both layouts. They had to go with either one of them and they chose full backspace.

This. The split-spacebar can only be either 6.25u or 7u, not both. We chose 6.25u.
Additionally this means that you cannot have a split spacebar and wkl top, due to the wkl top not supporting 6.25u spacebar.


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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #194 on: Mon, 30 September 2019, 10:30:45 »
Am I being totally blind?? I cannot find the order link

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #195 on: Mon, 30 September 2019, 10:40:15 »
Am I being totally blind?? I cannot find the order link
It's a Google form, then the gb runner invoices you for your order via email

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #196 on: Mon, 30 September 2019, 11:00:07 »
Am I being totally blind?? I cannot find the order link
It's a Google form, then the gb runner invoices you for your order via email

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Awesome. Can't find that either though....


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« Reply #197 on: Mon, 30 September 2019, 11:40:54 »
Am I being totally blind?? I cannot find the order link
It's a Google form, then the gb runner invoices you for your order via email

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Awesome. Can't find that either though....


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It's immediately under the photos. Look for "Google form for placing orders"

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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #198 on: Mon, 30 September 2019, 18:03:56 »
In for a board for sure, but would love to see a PC top with the Kanji logo. Any hope to see an example before hand? Like others have said, I would love to have that option but only if it looks good and not look janky.


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Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
« Reply #199 on: Mon, 30 September 2019, 18:07:20 »
I have a couple questions...

First, have you had a chance to weigh the weights?
I'm curious about the weight difference between brass/aluminum, although the lack of a space grey brass option might make that a moot point.

Second, if we make multiple orders, will they be shipped together?
Just wondering if I'll be paying shipping twice if I order two boards, or if they can be combined to save on shipping costs.