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Offline Drclick

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[IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« on: Wed, 09 October 2019, 02:14:08 »
Hello everyone,

I'm a huge fan of vintage keyboards, IBM SSK is very popular in the keyboard community. I always want to make a MX compatible SSK.
Original SSK uses curved plate but MX switches always uses flat plate. Each rows need to have different angles. It also need to use a curved PCB to make it work.
I have no idea how to make it work at first. After a lot of research, I find IBM 5576 plate spring keyboard uses a very thin PCB and a curved plate.
Inspired by that, I tried different thickness of PCB. As a result, 0.6mm PCB works.
However, 0.6mm PCB can't use PCB-mount Stabs, so I use Plate-mount Stabs instead.

Here are some renders from thesiscamper:







Features:
  • 7 slope
  • QMK PCB with hot-swap
  • CNC Alu with anode and E-White
  • Color: Industrial Gray, Black, E-White
  • 84-key Winkeyless, 87-key Winkey, ANSI only
  • Unibody TOP Case and 4mm-Plate
  • Solenoid inside
  • Recommend use SA R3 or SA-like Keycaps (such as XDA, DSA)
Price:
TBD (estimate around $400)

I will update more pics when I get prototypes.
Please leave your feedback below.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 09 October 2019, 02:32:40 »
Wow

This is a looker for sure :eek:

Will keep updated on this, and would love to see a proto on-hand soon :thumb:
« Last Edit: Wed, 09 October 2019, 02:34:21 by Agilr »

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 09 October 2019, 02:35:42 »
Siiick, cant wait to see prototypes
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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 09 October 2019, 02:45:02 »
It's time to save again.  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 09 October 2019, 03:05:04 »
This is super cool. I'm lookin' forward to seeing this progress.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 09 October 2019, 03:10:54 »
9009 looking real sweet in those renders.

You should consider running a small GB for SP SA Row 3 9009 along with the keyboard. I believe MOQ for SP is only 25 for stock colors. Albeit the price would be $200-$220 at a small amount of orders but I'm sure you could find 25 or more willing participants even at that price.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 09 October 2019, 04:07:28 »
Nice. :thumb:
Looking forward to the prototype and typing test.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 09 October 2019, 04:50:20 »
Wait wait wait wait wait.
Let me get thsi straight, because I almost didn't believe it when I read the title.
This is still just using MX-styled switches, right?
You're not doing something super crazy like an buckling-sping-to-MX adapter, right?
Because, eff me, a man can dream.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 09 October 2019, 05:39:53 »
Wait wait wait wait wait.
Let me get thsi straight, because I almost didn't believe it when I read the title.
This is still just using MX-styled switches, right?
You're not doing something super crazy like an buckling-sping-to-MX adapter, right?
Because, eff me, a man can dream.

Yes!!! You can use any MX swithes you want (Cherry, Gateron, Kailh, etc.)
And you don't need use any parts from original IBM SSK.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 09 October 2019, 06:22:21 »
So sick ****! :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #10 on: Wed, 09 October 2019, 08:16:10 »
With a solenoid inside for that extra thock!
I'm sold.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #11 on: Wed, 09 October 2019, 09:13:46 »
Niiiice
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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #12 on: Wed, 09 October 2019, 09:46:27 »
Wow... this is looking real nice.  :cool:
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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #13 on: Wed, 09 October 2019, 14:15:55 »
I want one, please add me to the list

Offline equalunique

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 09 October 2019, 14:49:01 »
Curved 0.6mm PCB? Heck (yeah!)

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 10 October 2019, 02:52:34 »
9009 looking real sweet in those renders.

You should consider running a small GB for SP SA Row 3 9009 along with the keyboard. I believe MOQ for SP is only 25 for stock colors. Albeit the price would be $200-$220 at a small amount of orders but I'm sure you could find 25 or more willing participants even at that price.

SP SA keycaps need a long production time, maybe we can try XDA 9009?

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 10 October 2019, 08:04:37 »
Nice job!  Will this be run through zfrontier?
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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #17 on: Thu, 10 October 2019, 08:06:54 »
If you make this I will buy it. I don't even think its an option. If this exists, I own it.  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #18 on: Thu, 10 October 2019, 09:02:58 »
I'm strictly a 60pct and less guy, but this does have me at least following it closely...

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #19 on: Thu, 10 October 2019, 21:13:44 »
definitely interested in this

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #20 on: Thu, 10 October 2019, 22:32:06 »
Looks great!


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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #21 on: Fri, 11 October 2019, 06:53:03 »
Nice job!  Will this be run through zfrontier?

I haven't decided how to run this gb, but vendor will not be zfrontier. :D

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #22 on: Fri, 11 October 2019, 10:58:41 »
Decided, it's only two meals per day from today till the GB date.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #23 on: Fri, 11 October 2019, 11:15:51 »
i am interested
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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #24 on: Sat, 12 October 2019, 23:54:54 »
ne chance of a non-HS pcb?

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #25 on: Sun, 13 October 2019, 01:08:00 »
ne chance of a non-HS pcb?
Yes, there are. Since the PCB is just 0.6mm i got to test the hotswap as well. I have ordered a PCB prototype and i will update it here!

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #26 on: Sun, 13 October 2019, 10:56:14 »
Looks great!


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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #27 on: Sun, 13 October 2019, 14:34:06 »
hey drclick, looks awesome! pls make the case compatible with original SSK internals so that I can have a real case for my FSSK <3
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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #28 on: Mon, 14 October 2019, 00:59:37 »
hey drclick, looks awesome! pls make the case compatible with original SSK internals so that I can have a real case for my FSSK <3
Sorry,it's only compatible with MX.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #29 on: Mon, 14 October 2019, 02:04:21 »
then please do another IC for the original SSK :D
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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #30 on: Tue, 15 October 2019, 00:22:27 »
then please do another IC for the original SSK :D
Maybe later.Now we just working on MX one

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #31 on: Wed, 16 October 2019, 02:04:22 »



Got my prototype PCB today ;D

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #32 on: Wed, 16 October 2019, 02:11:01 »
that f l e x h o l y  :eek:

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« Reply #33 on: Wed, 16 October 2019, 12:48:30 »
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Got my prototype PCB today ;D
This looks cool.  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #34 on: Wed, 16 October 2019, 21:57:37 »
make the pcb transparent plz.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #35 on: Wed, 16 October 2019, 22:13:02 »
Not a fan of the badge but other than that I fully support this
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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #36 on: Thu, 17 October 2019, 01:57:56 »
Not a fan of the badge but other than that I fully support this
+1 would look much cleaner without.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #37 on: Thu, 17 October 2019, 09:17:09 »
Not a fan of the badge but other than that I fully support this
+1 would look much cleaner without.

Yeah I might have to hop on this train. It's not a deal breaker for me though. I can take it or leave it, but I do agree it would be better without.

That PCB though. That's cool. With the board being flexed and curved like that, you don't anticipate any switch contact issues?




(as a completely un-related side note... the captcha that needs to be filled out for every post on this forum is a bit much).

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #38 on: Thu, 17 October 2019, 22:54:44 »
Not a fan of the badge but other than that I fully support this
+1 would look much cleaner without.

Yeah I might have to hop on this train. It's not a deal breaker for me though. I can take it or leave it, but I do agree it would be better without.

That PCB though. That's cool. With the board being flexed and curved like that, you don't anticipate any switch contact issues?




(as a completely un-related side note... the captcha that needs to be filled out for every post on this forum is a bit much).

The badge will be a PVC sticker like OG SSK, I can add more options when gb start.

Non-HS PCB should be fine but I need to test HS PCB first.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #39 on: Thu, 17 October 2019, 23:21:28 »
Count me in  :eek:

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #40 on: Mon, 21 October 2019, 23:32:16 »
Update some SSK badges.
Which one do you like? :D





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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #41 on: Mon, 21 October 2019, 23:33:34 »
Update some SSK badges.
Which one do you like? :D
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« Reply #42 on: Mon, 21 October 2019, 23:42:39 »
Update some SSK badges.
Which one do you like? :D
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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #44 on: Tue, 22 October 2019, 06:20:26 »
3 on Gray / White board
5 on black board

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #45 on: Tue, 22 October 2019, 10:15:56 »
3 or 5 for me as well!  :thumb:
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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #46 on: Tue, 22 October 2019, 14:01:20 »
MAO white should look great with this design.

Questions:

1. What's the connector type?

2. Are there adjustable feet like on real SSKs?

3. How does the solenoid mount?
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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #47 on: Wed, 23 October 2019, 01:06:26 »
MAO white should look great with this design.

Questions:

1. What's the connector type?

2. Are there adjustable feet like on real SSKs?

3. How does the solenoid mount?

1. usb type-c
2. no adjustable feet
3. It will be an extra daughter board on the bottom case to mount solenoid

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #48 on: Wed, 23 October 2019, 11:30:43 »
3 on Gray / White board
5 on black board

This for me as well.

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Re: [IC] Relic SSK - A MX compatible IBM SSK replica
« Reply #49 on: Tue, 29 October 2019, 03:19:21 »




Badge sample on my IBM SSK. :p