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Offline 1839cc

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Brown cherries, meh.
« Reply #50 on: Thu, 10 June 2010, 22:22:53 »
Quote from: washuai;191870
Dang it, and I thought black Alps might be the one I would like best, since they're supposed to be the least clicky.  Why do all the clicky switches get the best tactility? (Ignoring the clicky switches that are linear.)

Black ALPS fall flat on the bottom after the tactile point. Ouch.

Try some Cherry MX clears. I finally found some and they are all I hoped they would be. Very tactile and quiet with quickly rising resistance after the tactile point. So to bottom them out takes some effort, and even then it's a soft landing.
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Offline aegrotatio

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« Reply #51 on: Fri, 11 June 2010, 12:39:45 »
Quote from: ripster;191814
You mean the Montereys?[/URL]


I'm not sure, but they're the switches in the ABS M1.  I posted their schematics a month or two ago and they're some kind of simplified ALPS non-clicky copy.
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Offline aegrotatio

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« Reply #52 on: Fri, 11 June 2010, 12:57:06 »
I'm having a hard time feeling the tactile bump of my ABS M1 keyboard. I still feel like it actuates when the keys bottom out but I know it doesn't.

Which would this ALPS-clone keyboard compare to: Cherry Brown or Black?
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Daily Drivers: Ducky DK1087XM || DSI ASK-6600 || Rosewill RK-9000 BL, BR, BL, and RE || ABS M1 || Das Keyboard Silent || HHKB Lite and Lite 2 || DSI Big Font (kids love it)
Yearning for: Any ALPS keyboard || Any tenkeyless mechanical keyboard
Permanent collection: Poker Blue and Brown || Adesso MKB-125B || SIIG MiniTouch Geek Hack Space Saver || Chicony 5181 Monterey Blue || Chicony 5191 Clone Cherry Blues || Key Tronic 3600 || Unicomp Endurapro & SmarTrex || A crate of IBM Model M and Model M Space Saving boards || NeXTstation Slab || Amiga 3000 || BTC-5100C black and beige || SIIG MiniTouch Plus black and beige
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Offline Nonmouse

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« Reply #53 on: Fri, 11 June 2010, 13:22:32 »
Quote from: aegrotatio;192111
I'm having a hard time feeling the tactile bump of my ABS M1 keyboard. I still feel like it actuates when the keys bottom out but I know it doesn't.

Which would this ALPS-clone keyboard compare to: Cherry Brown or Black?


Neither.  Cherry whites would be the closest.
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Offline Nonmouse

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« Reply #54 on: Fri, 11 June 2010, 13:33:25 »
Quote from: ripster;192116
Clear.  They only LOOK white.

Tomāto tomahto.  I prefer to call them whites.
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Offline Nonmouse

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« Reply #55 on: Fri, 11 June 2010, 13:41:06 »
Quote from: ripster;192120
But not correct since genuine White Cherries do crop up now and then.

Yeah, but Cherry probably called them "opaques" or somesuch.
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Offline itlnstln

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« Reply #56 on: Fri, 11 June 2010, 13:55:38 »
Somewhere, Chloe had some documentation from Cherry about whites, too.  They are two very distinct switches.

In a nutshell:

Whites = clicky (like blues)
Clears =  not clicky
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Offline Nonmouse

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« Reply #57 on: Fri, 11 June 2010, 13:56:15 »
Quote from: ripster;192123
From the English Cherry Corp Product Catalog.


In the German Product Catalog They Are Called "Wienerschnitzelswitchen".

First offense to ignoring Chloe's Most Excellent Cherry MX Wiki is a warning.  Second is more severe.
I'm aware of what Cherry calls them; I just don't care.
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Offline Nonmouse

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« Reply #58 on: Fri, 11 June 2010, 14:03:13 »
Quote from: ripster;192126
Is that why people in Boston get R confused with H all the time?

Got me.  I'm not from around here.
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Offline Nonmouse

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« Reply #59 on: Fri, 11 June 2010, 14:17:51 »
Translucent != clear.

Rainwater = clear.



Grain alcohol = clear.


« Last Edit: Fri, 11 June 2010, 14:24:05 by Nonmouse »
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Offline Nonmouse

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« Reply #60 on: Fri, 11 June 2010, 14:53:07 »
Quote from: ripster;192142
Weiss!
Show Image

a clicka clicka clicka click

NICHT Weiss!  Kllllllaaaaarrrrrr!
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 clicka clicka ist kaput

Those look like the same plastic to me (excepting, of course, the black clicky bit).  

Translucent != clear.  Translucent = white.
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Offline noctua

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« Reply #61 on: Fri, 11 June 2010, 15:25:04 »
Quote from: ripster;192137
Germans have a hard time with the American language.


Sometimes.. but the most time we have a hard time with our
own German spelling rules..

The color is white - [GER] Die Farbe ist [Strike]Weiss[/Strike] Weiß :wink:
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Offline itlnstln

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« Reply #62 on: Fri, 11 June 2010, 15:27:19 »
I was trying to find the ß key on my keyboard, but then I realized I threw it out as part of my last VCR.  Oh well.

Only in German would something that looks like a "B" and is called "Beta" sound like an "s."  Let's not even go into Cyrillic or English for that matter.
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Offline noctua

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« Reply #63 on: Fri, 11 June 2010, 15:38:10 »
Quote from: itlnstln;192172
I was trying to find the ß key on my keyboard..

To generate the ß type on..

Linux/X: + s
Macintosh:
« Last Edit: Fri, 11 June 2010, 16:53:05 by noctua »
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Offline Mental Hobbit

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« Reply #64 on: Fri, 11 June 2010, 15:56:11 »
Quote from: itlnstln;192172
Only in German would something that looks like a "B" and is called "Beta" sound like an "s."  


Actually it's a combo of the old style long s (Texans won't remember that one) and z.
For some strange reason typographers decided to make it look like a beta over time. I blame foreigners ignorant of German language.



Hm, transparent background... but I guess you get the idea.
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Offline itlnstln

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« Reply #65 on: Fri, 11 June 2010, 16:21:40 »
Quote from: Mental Hobbit;192190
Actually it's a combo of the old style long s (Texans won't remember that one) and z.
For some strange reason typographers decided to make it look like a beta over time. I blame foreigners ignorant of German language.

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Hm, transparent background... but I guess you get the idea.


Good stuff.  I learn something new everyday.  Fortunately, I'm not a Texan and know about the long "s" (that looks sorta like an "f").

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Offline clickclack

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« Reply #66 on: Fri, 11 June 2010, 16:42:04 »
Quote from: Mental Hobbit;192190


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Hm, transparent background... but I guess you get the idea.

perfect! It belongs on a Topre or HHKB now =P

I always think "soft landing" now when I see a black and dark grey combo.
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Offline spolia optima

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« Reply #67 on: Sun, 13 June 2010, 17:25:40 »
This thread gets more interesting every day.
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Offline noctua

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« Reply #68 on: Mon, 14 June 2010, 02:11:56 »
Yeah, the thread goes back to the typical style again..
What you mean Spolia opima, sorry i have forgotten
to insert the character t.. you know
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