Author Topic: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!  (Read 20998 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline walletburner

  • Formerly wokechill
  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 82
  • Location: Screwston
[IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« on: Wed, 04 December 2019, 14:08:43 »
Introducing the Cajal.  [kaˈhal]

231210-0
231212-1
231219-2
231214-3
231216-4


The Cajal is a 45% hotswap keyboard with a detached arrow cluster, a prominent volume knob, and an RGB underglow ring. It also weighs in at around 2 kg, making it one of the heaviest boards for its size. This keyboard is a culmination of all the features that were requested from the Neuron GB, along with some new design features that haven't yet been implemented in this layout. I have added indicator lights and a new (to my knowledge) gasket mount using stoppers to adjust the compression on nitrile tabs attached to the plate. PVD-coated brass and sandblasted polycarbonate plates will be available, as will hard and soft durometers of gasket material. With only four plate attachment points, the Cajal was designed to flex and give a cushioned bottom out. By changing plate material, gasket hardness, and gasket compression tightness, users will be able to tailor their experience to their preferences. Thank you for reading, and please let me know what features you would like to see in the final release when the Group-Buy comes. Nothing will start before the Neuron GB ships in early 2020, so prepare your wallets for a Spring 2020 release.



About the Name
More
The Cajal is named after Santiago Ramůn y Cajal (1852-1934), the father of modern neuroscience. His studies of the brain were crucial to the discovery that the nervous system consists mainly of individual cells, a theory called neuron doctrine. For this discovery, he was honored with the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 1906. His contributions to neuroanatomy and detailed drawings of neural structures are still relevant to our understanding of the nervous system more than a hundred years later. In addition to his scientific discoveries, Cajal was a writer of science fiction short stories under the name “Dr. Bacteria”, a bodybuilder in his younger years, a talented painter and artist, a doctor in the Spanish Army, and as a child, was briefly imprisoned in a local church for blowing a hole in his neighbor’s front door with a homemade cannon. This keyboard is a minor tribute to his brilliance.


Features:
  • 4.4lb (2kg) case with a 5 degree typing angle.
  • QMK-compatible fixed layout white hotswap PCB with RGB underglow and daughter board to isolate PCB/plate from cable. Designed by Worldspawn.
  • KLE Layout Here.
    More
    231250-5
  • Gasket mount plate with individual compression control and 40A or 70A durometer nitrile rubber gaskets above and below plate tabs.
  • PVD-coated brass or sandblasted polycarbonate plate.
  • Frosted acrylic diffuser layer for RGB underglow.
  • Three SMD LED indicators.
  • One included EC11 rotary encoder.
  • One big-ass knob, available in gold or black PVD brass, or silver or black anodized aluminum.
  • One big-ass sandblasted brass weight, engraved with Cajal and microscope based on Cajal’s favorite Zeiss microscope later in life.
  • Approximate price range $300-400.

If interested, please fill out this IC form. https://forms.gle/n4ayjAnfeBfFrukN7

Thanks for your time,
Walletburner
« Last Edit: Thu, 05 December 2019, 13:04:14 by walletburner »

Offline Kokaloo

  • Posts: 221
  • Location: Las Vegas
  • 🤘(ē ω ē)🤙
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 04 December 2019, 14:11:51 »
huge fan of big ass knobs
« Last Edit: Wed, 04 December 2019, 14:15:58 by Kokaloo »

Offline tskiller

  • Posts: 47
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 04 December 2019, 14:15:22 »
lookin slick

Offline legolandalf

  • Posts: 6
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 04 December 2019, 14:17:27 »
dat glow

Offline meatsmoothies

  • Posts: 20
  • Location: Louisville, KY
  • howdy!
    • portfolio / store
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 04 December 2019, 14:18:45 »
gonna do my best to get in on this! it's absolutely gorgeous

Offline dingusxmcgee

  • Posts: 75
  • Location: West MI
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 04 December 2019, 14:20:05 »
This board is beautiful. Happy to see this come to fruition!

Offline Hedgey

  • Posts: 142
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 04 December 2019, 14:24:10 »
In like Flynn!  This thing is gorgeous!
"Resellers don't kill the community, auctioneers kill the community. Look at what happened to Diablo 3"

Offline CarlQs

  • Posts: 21
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 04 December 2019, 14:30:52 »
I'm ready yall...

Offline gminso

  • Posts: 54
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 04 December 2019, 14:49:24 »
Aww only if it included full alpha set... ;(

Offline TonyPia

  • Posts: 50
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 04 December 2019, 15:12:13 »
Will you bring the LEMO in the render as extra? BT support would be proper too. QMK/VIA?

Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #10 on: Wed, 04 December 2019, 15:26:19 »
Gru meme time
1. Board named after one of the most famous pathologists of all time
2. A literal microscope on the weight
3. Board is the size of my hand
4. <look at big hands used to TKLs>

Itís beautiful. A year from now Iím gonna be brigading ICs for this layout, arenít I.

Offline psxndc

  • Posts: 224
[IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #11 on: Wed, 04 December 2019, 16:22:12 »
I like it a lot. Is the right shift a 1.25u? My only complaint would be if that was something other than a 1u there (my preference is a 1u ?/). Other renders make it look like a 1u slot, so I canít tell.
« Last Edit: Wed, 04 December 2019, 16:26:12 by psxndc »

Online Astrasa

  • Posts: 47
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #12 on: Wed, 04 December 2019, 16:23:14 »
This looks really nice! Has a lot of features that I wish neuron had so I'll def be keeping an eye on this project.
Kyuu | Noxary 268.2 | Quasi Alice |

Offline walletburner

  • Formerly wokechill
  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 82
  • Location: Screwston
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #13 on: Wed, 04 December 2019, 18:34:45 »
Will you bring the LEMO in the render as extra? BT support would be proper too. QMK/VIA?

haha no, you're on your own for cables. no way i can get a BT signal out of this dense lad, but yes the PCB is QMK-compatible. worldspawn will write the firmware once we get the proto PCBs.

one of the most famous pathologists of all time

hey, let's not pigeonhole the man.

Is the right shift a 1.25u?

yes, and i'll throw a KLE in the post when i get home.


Offline TonyPia

  • Posts: 50
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 04 December 2019, 19:21:09 »
Will you bring the LEMO in the render as extra? BT support would be proper too. QMK/VIA?

haha no, you're on your own for cables. no way i can get a BT signal out of this dense lad, but yes the PCB is QMK-compatible. worldspawn will write the firmware once we get the proto PCBs.


Don't even bother to answer my questions and make your best effort to make this to GB ASAP. Already picking up switches and caps for this board.

Offline TexMech

  • Posts: 9
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 05 December 2019, 06:21:55 »
Yus

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk


Offline Steezy

  • Posts: 2
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 05 December 2019, 08:48:00 »
I'm definitely keeping my eye on this keyboard!

Offline funderburker

  • * Exquisite Elder
  • Posts: 1239
  • Location: Latvia, Riga
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #17 on: Thu, 05 December 2019, 10:12:23 »
What is this?! A tiny Satisfaction 75?  :-*
LAGOM 🐸-T | TMO50 FE #06 | TMOv2 prototype

Offline walletburner

  • Formerly wokechill
  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 82
  • Location: Screwston
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #18 on: Thu, 05 December 2019, 10:43:51 »
What is this?! A tiny Satisfaction 75?  :-*

231267-0
jk lol  ;D

Offline TonyPia

  • Posts: 50
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #19 on: Thu, 05 December 2019, 10:48:05 »
What is this?! A tiny Satisfaction 75?  :-*
Satisfaction75-unnecessary switches+extra space+portability = my expectation

@walletburner Hey wallet destroyer, is the rotary tactile or infinite?

Offline funderburker

  • * Exquisite Elder
  • Posts: 1239
  • Location: Latvia, Riga
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #20 on: Thu, 05 December 2019, 10:53:25 »
LAGOM 🐸-T | TMO50 FE #06 | TMOv2 prototype

Offline DuellM

  • Posts: 110
  • Location: Brooklyn
  • Keyboard Fatty
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #21 on: Thu, 05 December 2019, 17:22:13 »
Any chance for a red polycarbonate version

Offline walletburner

  • Formerly wokechill
  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 82
  • Location: Screwston
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #22 on: Thu, 05 December 2019, 18:04:21 »
Any chance for a red polycarbonate version

this run is likely to be aluminum only to limit cost and maximize MOQs, but it isn't out of the realm of possibility. have another render.
231278-0

Offline i8ap4t

  • Posts: 3
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #23 on: Thu, 05 December 2019, 19:28:50 »
Just renamed my savings account from 45-ATS to Cajal.

Offline Sup

  • Posts: 809
    • Supkbd
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #24 on: Thu, 05 December 2019, 19:32:30 »
looks dope as fu can we also get a Ortholinear pcb/plate version?
Https://Supkbd.nl

Filco Zero -  NOS Yellow Alps | Canoe R1 Gateron Red | AEK II JP Cream dampend |Filco Majestouch 2 Tex case Gateron Yellow | HHKB Pro 1 2003 Rev AO Serial 000171 | HHKB Pro 1 2003 Rev A1s|DZ60 OG Panda's with Fei spring and stem. | Sentraq S65_Plus OG Invyr Panda's | A17 Gateron Black TX 65G 3204 | Lubrigrante Wildcard Cherry MX silent blacks 3204 58.5G Springs |
Coming soon Rukia.

Rest in peace Billy

Offline DuellM

  • Posts: 110
  • Location: Brooklyn
  • Keyboard Fatty
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #25 on: Thu, 05 December 2019, 19:33:51 »
Damn, you got me. Sign me up

Offline i8ap4t

  • Posts: 3
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #26 on: Thu, 05 December 2019, 19:35:40 »
looks dope as fu can we also get a Ortholinear pcb/plate version?

You would have an extra 0.25u on that bottom row

Offline Sup

  • Posts: 809
    • Supkbd
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #27 on: Thu, 05 December 2019, 19:48:35 »
looks dope as fu can we also get a Ortholinear pcb/plate version?

You would have an extra 0.25u on that bottom row

Oh yeah makes sense. A man can dream  :(
Https://Supkbd.nl

Filco Zero -  NOS Yellow Alps | Canoe R1 Gateron Red | AEK II JP Cream dampend |Filco Majestouch 2 Tex case Gateron Yellow | HHKB Pro 1 2003 Rev AO Serial 000171 | HHKB Pro 1 2003 Rev A1s|DZ60 OG Panda's with Fei spring and stem. | Sentraq S65_Plus OG Invyr Panda's | A17 Gateron Black TX 65G 3204 | Lubrigrante Wildcard Cherry MX silent blacks 3204 58.5G Springs |
Coming soon Rukia.

Rest in peace Billy

Offline vaughno

  • Posts: 70
  • Location: Virginia, USA
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #28 on: Thu, 05 December 2019, 19:57:39 »
woah that knob  :p
Unikorn | Orion v3 | GSKT-00

Offline walletburner

  • Formerly wokechill
  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 82
  • Location: Screwston
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #29 on: Thu, 05 December 2019, 20:54:39 »
looks dope as fu can we also get a Ortholinear pcb/plate version?

You would have an extra 0.25u on that bottom row

actually....
231282-0
ne interest avail?

Offline psxndc

  • Posts: 224
[IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #30 on: Thu, 05 December 2019, 21:23:22 »
Ortho? Oh hell yes!
« Last Edit: Sat, 07 December 2019, 09:28:20 by psxndc »

Offline jazzjarred

  • Posts: 17
  • Location: Australia
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #31 on: Fri, 06 December 2019, 06:38:44 »
big yes for ortho

Offline nasp

  • Posts: 839
  • Location: USA - Texas
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #32 on: Fri, 06 December 2019, 13:13:08 »
Did someone say ortho?!  :eek:

Offline rondg

  • Posts: 439
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #33 on: Fri, 06 December 2019, 19:45:36 »
Not really into 45% keyboards, but please consider selling the knobs? I would buy 2.

Offline walletburner

  • Formerly wokechill
  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 82
  • Location: Screwston
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #34 on: Sat, 07 December 2019, 09:24:39 »
Not really into 45% keyboards, but please consider selling the knobs? I would buy 2.

Gladly! the more we sell the cheaper I can price it for GB participants. I have to warn you though; they're 25mm, so they're too big to be used in regular switch spacing and probably most other boards.

Offline PulpitKeyboards

  • Posts: 4
  • Location: Norway
  • Pulpit
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #35 on: Sat, 07 December 2019, 10:47:04 »
I honestly want an ortho version of this so bad! I would actually love to see your take on a split ergo in the future too :D

Offline PocketAces

  • Posts: 94
  • Location: Miami, FL
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #36 on: Sat, 07 December 2019, 10:54:48 »
E WHITE

E WHITE

E WHITE


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Offline d00deitsnik

  • Posts: 207
  • Location: San Francisco, CA
  • Grails: SA Olivia, 1800 w/ only Latriualum keycaps
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #37 on: Sun, 08 December 2019, 00:48:25 »
Will you be selling extra knobs too? :D

Offline i8ap4t

  • Posts: 3
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #38 on: Sun, 08 December 2019, 13:41:57 »
looks dope as fu can we also get a Ortholinear pcb/plate version?

You would have an extra 0.25u on that bottom row

actually....
(Attachment Link)
ne interest avail?

Sorry guys. I think I might be visually impaired or retarded.

Offline 1corazon

  • Posts: 35
  • Location: Sydney Australia
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #39 on: Thu, 12 December 2019, 04:54:10 »
Im in TAKE ALL MY MONEY!!!

Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #40 on: Thu, 12 December 2019, 09:13:11 »

Make it wider and give us

------->       [ " ' ] [Enter]
------->    [ ? / ] [shift]

Other than that I think it is beautiful

Offline nguyenhimself

  • Posts: 637
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #41 on: Thu, 12 December 2019, 09:40:48 »

Make it wider and give us

------->       [ " ' ] [Enter]
------->    [ ? / ] [shift]

Other than that I think it is beautiful
Yeah, same.
You already broke the golden rule of 40% by keeping the arrow cluster. Might as well keep the quote key. Too useful for the English language.

Offline funderburker

  • * Exquisite Elder
  • Posts: 1239
  • Location: Latvia, Riga
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #42 on: Thu, 12 December 2019, 10:05:49 »

Make it wider and give us

------->       [ " ' ] [Enter]
------->    [ ? / ] [shift]

Other than that I think it is beautiful
Yeah, same.
You already broke the golden rule of 40% by keeping the arrow cluster. Might as well keep the quote key. Too useful for the English language.

Full alphas is where it's at.  :p
LAGOM 🐸-T | TMO50 FE #06 | TMOv2 prototype

Offline Seoulcialite

  • Posts: 30
  • Location: Seoul, South Korea
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #43 on: Thu, 12 December 2019, 12:29:54 »
Instabuy for me if full alphas.

Offline psxndc

  • Posts: 224
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #44 on: Thu, 12 December 2019, 12:36:33 »

Make it wider and give us

------->       [ " ' ] [Enter]
------->    [ ? / ] [shift]

Other than that I think it is beautiful
Yeah, same.
You already broke the golden rule of 40% by keeping the arrow cluster. Might as well keep the quote key. Too useful for the English language.

Imma be honest, this is why ortho appeals to me: room for all the keys (and of course, it's not staggered).

Offline walletburner

  • Formerly wokechill
  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 82
  • Location: Screwston
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #45 on: Thu, 12 December 2019, 15:03:27 »
hey! i see there is a clamoring in the thread for "full alphas" (i.e. another column to the right of ;/:). while i hear what you are saying, this probably won't happen with this project, for the following two reasons. first, the demand for this in the interest check form is quite low. 744 people have filled out the form so far (insane), and only 7 have requested something along these lines. to scale this interest, 11 people have requested I make a 65% and 14 have requested a 60% in the form. this means democratically, it isn't something most people interested in the board want added, and pales in comparison to requests for ortholinear support (~60) and a polycarbonate case option (~50), both of which i am working on adding to the final buy. second, i am planning to roll out a 50% or larger layout after i run this board, so i think that might be more interest for those who think of 'incomplete alphas' as a no-go. there is still a lot to explore in ~50% layouts, and i have some ideas i want to try after Neuron and Cajal, so my advice is just stay tuned and u shouldn't have to wait more than a few months for something that would match your preferences without compromise.

have a polycarbonate render for your time. <3
231778-0

Offline Abec13

  • Posts: 232
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #46 on: Thu, 12 December 2019, 15:19:57 »
45 percent-- best layout! This looks chonky and great.
45-ATS | KBD19X | Volcano 660 PC | Think 6.5 | Iron 165 SE
[/url]

Offline walletburner

  • Formerly wokechill
  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 82
  • Location: Screwston
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #47 on: Thu, 12 December 2019, 15:28:21 »
45 percent-- best layout! This looks chonky and great.

hey thanks! and glws on the 45-ATS!

Offline TonyPia

  • Posts: 50
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #48 on: Thu, 12 December 2019, 16:52:27 »
hey! i see there is a clamoring in the thread for "full alphas" (i.e. another column to the right of ;/:). while i hear what you are saying, this probably won't happen with this project, for the following two reasons. first, the demand for this in the interest check form is quite low. 744 people have filled out the form so far (insane), and only 7 have requested something along these lines. to scale this interest, 11 people have requested I make a 65% and 14 have requested a 60% in the form. this means democratically, it isn't something most people interested in the board want added, and pales in comparison to requests for ortholinear support (~60) and a polycarbonate case option (~50), both of which i am working on adding to the final buy. second, i am planning to roll out a 50% or larger layout after i run this board, so i think that might be more interest for those who think of 'incomplete alphas' as a no-go. there is still a lot to explore in ~50% layouts, and i have some ideas i want to try after Neuron and Cajal, so my advice is just stay tuned and u shouldn't have to wait more than a few months for something that would match your preferences without compromise.

have a polycarbonate render for your time. <3
(Attachment Link)

First thank you for listening carefully to what folks say.
I believe 45% size is more concentrated on pure typing experience and I believe full alpha will serve the purpose even better.
I didn't show the interest explicitly assuming dimension involved changing at this stage is hard and I think there could be many people who thought like me.
But if you are OK with the change if there is enough interest, I'm in for full alpha.
I believe you may see different result if you have another IC form to choose between full alpha and traditional 45% layout.
I guess asking for 60, 65% is more like asking blue out of red while 45% full alpha is orange.
I would wait for your next project for larger size keyboard.

Offline Sedula

  • Posts: 23
  • Location: Milwaukee, WI
Re: [IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - Renders Up!
« Reply #49 on: Thu, 12 December 2019, 23:46:23 »
first, the demand for this in the interest check form is quite low. 744 people have filled out the form so far (insane), and only 7 have requested something along these lines. to scale this interest, 11 people have requested I make a 65% and 14 have requested a 60% in the form. this means democratically, it isn't something most people interested in the board want added, and pales in comparison to requests for ortholinear support (~60) and a polycarbonate case option (~50), both of which i am working on adding to the final buy.

Just sayin', but using responses to a completely open-ended question to gauge relative interest in unspecified features is going to potentially give you staggeringly inaccurate results. If you actually care about doing it "democratically" (which tbh it's fine if you don't), you should be polling on specific layouts. Otherwise you might end up with a scenario where, say, a majority would prefer Layout A but assumed it wouldn't be on the table so there was no point in asking, while fans of Layout B, while fewer in number, were more bold about requesting it.

It could be that your initial assumptions are right; but there are just too many factors in play to be at all certain about the relevance of responses to an open-end that open-ended.