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[IC] Cajal: A 45% Keyboard - SOLD OUT IN 3 MINUTES
« on: Wed, 04 December 2019, 14:08:43 »
Introducing the Cajal.  [kaˈhal]

Edit 5/29/20: Due to unforeseen circumstances, we have to delay the Group-Buy for Cajal until June 15th, 2020 at 5:00 pm CDT on Walletburner.co. The sale will be limited to 200 units, with a maximum of 2 units per customer. See you then!

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The Cajal is a 45% hotswap keyboard with a detached arrow cluster, a prominent volume knob, and an RGB underglow ring. It's heaviest configuration weighs 5lbs, making it one of the heaviest boards for its size. This keyboard is a culmination of all the features that were requested from the Neuron GB, along with some new design features that haven't yet been implemented in a sub-60% keyboard. I have added programmable indicator lights and gasket mounting system using stoppers to adjust the compression on nitrile tabs attached to the plate in 4 places. With only four plate attachment points, the Cajal was designed to permit flex in bendier plate materials while still providing a cushioned bottom out on a brass plate. By changing plate material, gasket hardness (40A soft or 70A hard), and gasket compression tightness, users will be able to tailor their experience to their preferences. Prepare your wallets for June 1st!



About the Name
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The Cajal is named after Santiago Ramón y Cajal (1852-1934), the father of modern neuroscience. His studies of the brain were crucial to the discovery that the nervous system consists mainly of individual cells, a theory called neuron doctrine. For this discovery, he was honored with the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 1906. His contributions to neuroanatomy and detailed drawings of neural structures are still relevant to our understanding of the nervous system more than a hundred years later. In addition to his scientific discoveries, Cajal was a writer of science fiction short stories under the name “Dr. Bacteria”, a bodybuilder in his younger years, a talented painter and artist, a doctor in the Spanish Army, and as a child, was briefly imprisoned in a local church for blowing a hole in his neighbor’s front door with a homemade cannon. This keyboard is a minor tribute to his brilliance.


Features:
  • Choice of 4.9 lb aluminum case or 3.8 lb polycarbonate  case with 5 degree typing angle.
  • Aluminum case colors: Bushido Red, Blue Steel, E-White, and Space Grey.
  • Polycarbonate case available in clear polycarbonate or Cotton Candy Pink dyed polycarbonate.
  • Choice of 1 of 2 QMK-compatible PCBSs: (1) staggered layout, MX-compatible hotswap PCB or (2) solderable ortholinear MX or Alps-compatible PCB, each with RGB underglow and daughter board to isolate PCB/plate from cable. Each designed by Worldspawn, daughterboard by the incredible ai03.
  • Staggered layout KLE Layout here.
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  • Ortholinear layout KLE Layout here.
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  • Gasket mounting style with individual compression control and 40A or 70A durometer nitrile rubber gaskets above and below plate tabs.
  • Staggered layout plates in sandblasted brass, POM, or sandblasted polycarbonate.
  • Ortholinear layout plates in sandblasted brass or POM.
  • Frosted acrylic diffuser layer for RGB underglow.
  • Three SMD LED indicators.
  • One included EC11 rotary encoder.
  • One big-ass knob, available in silver or black anodized aluminum. PVD-coated gold brass knob is available for +$40.
  • One big-ass sandblasted brass weight, engraved with Cajal and microscope based on Cajal’s favorite Zeiss microscope later in life.
  • Price is $ 400 (USD) + tax + shipping.
  • Expected lead time is 3 months, with a projected August 2020 ship date.

If interested, please fill out this IC form. https://forms.gle/n4ayjAnfeBfFrukN7

Thanks for your time,
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« Reply #1 on: Wed, 04 December 2019, 14:11:51 »
huge fan of big ass knobs
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« Reply #2 on: Wed, 04 December 2019, 14:15:22 »
lookin slick

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« Reply #3 on: Wed, 04 December 2019, 14:17:27 »
dat glow

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« Reply #4 on: Wed, 04 December 2019, 14:18:45 »
gonna do my best to get in on this! it's absolutely gorgeous

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« Reply #5 on: Wed, 04 December 2019, 14:20:05 »
This board is beautiful. Happy to see this come to fruition!

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« Reply #6 on: Wed, 04 December 2019, 14:24:10 »
In like Flynn!  This thing is gorgeous!
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« Reply #7 on: Wed, 04 December 2019, 14:30:52 »
I'm ready yall...

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« Reply #8 on: Wed, 04 December 2019, 14:49:24 »
Aww only if it included full alpha set... ;(

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« Reply #9 on: Wed, 04 December 2019, 15:12:13 »
Will you bring the LEMO in the render as extra? BT support would be proper too. QMK/VIA?

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« Reply #10 on: Wed, 04 December 2019, 15:26:19 »
Gru meme time
1. Board named after one of the most famous pathologists of all time
2. A literal microscope on the weight
3. Board is the size of my hand
4. <look at big hands used to TKLs>

It’s beautiful. A year from now I’m gonna be brigading ICs for this layout, aren’t I.

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« Reply #11 on: Wed, 04 December 2019, 16:22:12 »
I like it a lot. Is the right shift a 1.25u? My only complaint would be if that was something other than a 1u there (my preference is a 1u ?/). Other renders make it look like a 1u slot, so I can’t tell.
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« Reply #12 on: Wed, 04 December 2019, 16:23:14 »
This looks really nice! Has a lot of features that I wish neuron had so I'll def be keeping an eye on this project.
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« Reply #13 on: Wed, 04 December 2019, 18:34:45 »
Will you bring the LEMO in the render as extra? BT support would be proper too. QMK/VIA?

haha no, you're on your own for cables. no way i can get a BT signal out of this dense lad, but yes the PCB is QMK-compatible. worldspawn will write the firmware once we get the proto PCBs.

one of the most famous pathologists of all time

hey, let's not pigeonhole the man.

Is the right shift a 1.25u?

yes, and i'll throw a KLE in the post when i get home.


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« Reply #14 on: Wed, 04 December 2019, 19:21:09 »
Will you bring the LEMO in the render as extra? BT support would be proper too. QMK/VIA?

haha no, you're on your own for cables. no way i can get a BT signal out of this dense lad, but yes the PCB is QMK-compatible. worldspawn will write the firmware once we get the proto PCBs.


Don't even bother to answer my questions and make your best effort to make this to GB ASAP. Already picking up switches and caps for this board.

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« Reply #15 on: Thu, 05 December 2019, 06:21:55 »
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« Reply #16 on: Thu, 05 December 2019, 08:48:00 »
I'm definitely keeping my eye on this keyboard!

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« Reply #17 on: Thu, 05 December 2019, 10:12:23 »
What is this?! A tiny Satisfaction 75?  :-*
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« Reply #18 on: Thu, 05 December 2019, 10:43:51 »
What is this?! A tiny Satisfaction 75?  :-*

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« Reply #19 on: Thu, 05 December 2019, 10:48:05 »
What is this?! A tiny Satisfaction 75?  :-*
Satisfaction75-unnecessary switches+extra space+portability = my expectation

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« Reply #20 on: Thu, 05 December 2019, 10:53:25 »
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« Reply #21 on: Thu, 05 December 2019, 17:22:13 »
Any chance for a red polycarbonate version

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« Reply #22 on: Thu, 05 December 2019, 18:04:21 »
Any chance for a red polycarbonate version

this run is likely to be aluminum only to limit cost and maximize MOQs, but it isn't out of the realm of possibility. have another render.
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« Reply #23 on: Thu, 05 December 2019, 19:28:50 »
Just renamed my savings account from 45-ATS to Cajal.

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« Reply #24 on: Thu, 05 December 2019, 19:32:30 »
looks dope as fu can we also get a Ortholinear pcb/plate version?
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« Reply #25 on: Thu, 05 December 2019, 19:33:51 »
Damn, you got me. Sign me up

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« Reply #26 on: Thu, 05 December 2019, 19:35:40 »
looks dope as fu can we also get a Ortholinear pcb/plate version?

You would have an extra 0.25u on that bottom row

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« Reply #27 on: Thu, 05 December 2019, 19:48:35 »
looks dope as fu can we also get a Ortholinear pcb/plate version?

You would have an extra 0.25u on that bottom row

Oh yeah makes sense. A man can dream  :(
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« Reply #28 on: Thu, 05 December 2019, 19:57:39 »
woah that knob  :p
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« Reply #29 on: Thu, 05 December 2019, 20:54:39 »
looks dope as fu can we also get a Ortholinear pcb/plate version?

You would have an extra 0.25u on that bottom row

actually....
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« Reply #30 on: Thu, 05 December 2019, 21:23:22 »
Ortho? Oh hell yes!
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« Reply #31 on: Fri, 06 December 2019, 06:38:44 »
big yes for ortho

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« Reply #32 on: Fri, 06 December 2019, 13:13:08 »
Did someone say ortho?!  :eek:

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« Reply #33 on: Fri, 06 December 2019, 19:45:36 »
Not really into 45% keyboards, but please consider selling the knobs? I would buy 2.

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« Reply #34 on: Sat, 07 December 2019, 09:24:39 »
Not really into 45% keyboards, but please consider selling the knobs? I would buy 2.

Gladly! the more we sell the cheaper I can price it for GB participants. I have to warn you though; they're 25mm, so they're too big to be used in regular switch spacing and probably most other boards.

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« Reply #35 on: Sat, 07 December 2019, 10:47:04 »
I honestly want an ortho version of this so bad! I would actually love to see your take on a split ergo in the future too :D

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« Reply #36 on: Sat, 07 December 2019, 10:54:48 »
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« Reply #37 on: Sun, 08 December 2019, 00:48:25 »
Will you be selling extra knobs too? :D

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« Reply #38 on: Sun, 08 December 2019, 13:41:57 »
looks dope as fu can we also get a Ortholinear pcb/plate version?

You would have an extra 0.25u on that bottom row

actually....
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Sorry guys. I think I might be visually impaired or retarded.

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« Reply #39 on: Thu, 12 December 2019, 04:54:10 »
Im in TAKE ALL MY MONEY!!!

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« Reply #40 on: Thu, 12 December 2019, 09:13:11 »

Make it wider and give us

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------->    [ ? / ] [shift]

Other than that I think it is beautiful

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« Reply #41 on: Thu, 12 December 2019, 09:40:48 »

Make it wider and give us

------->       [ " ' ] [Enter]
------->    [ ? / ] [shift]

Other than that I think it is beautiful
Yeah, same.
You already broke the golden rule of 40% by keeping the arrow cluster. Might as well keep the quote key. Too useful for the English language.

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« Reply #42 on: Thu, 12 December 2019, 10:05:49 »

Make it wider and give us

------->       [ " ' ] [Enter]
------->    [ ? / ] [shift]

Other than that I think it is beautiful
Yeah, same.
You already broke the golden rule of 40% by keeping the arrow cluster. Might as well keep the quote key. Too useful for the English language.

Full alphas is where it's at.  :p
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« Reply #43 on: Thu, 12 December 2019, 12:29:54 »
Instabuy for me if full alphas.

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« Reply #44 on: Thu, 12 December 2019, 12:36:33 »

Make it wider and give us

------->       [ " ' ] [Enter]
------->    [ ? / ] [shift]

Other than that I think it is beautiful
Yeah, same.
You already broke the golden rule of 40% by keeping the arrow cluster. Might as well keep the quote key. Too useful for the English language.

Imma be honest, this is why ortho appeals to me: room for all the keys (and of course, it's not staggered).

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« Reply #45 on: Thu, 12 December 2019, 15:03:27 »
hey! i see there is a clamoring in the thread for "full alphas" (i.e. another column to the right of ;/:). while i hear what you are saying, this probably won't happen with this project, for the following two reasons. first, the demand for this in the interest check form is quite low. 744 people have filled out the form so far (insane), and only 7 have requested something along these lines. to scale this interest, 11 people have requested I make a 65% and 14 have requested a 60% in the form. this means democratically, it isn't something most people interested in the board want added, and pales in comparison to requests for ortholinear support (~60) and a polycarbonate case option (~50), both of which i am working on adding to the final buy. second, i am planning to roll out a 50% or larger layout after i run this board, so i think that might be more interest for those who think of 'incomplete alphas' as a no-go. there is still a lot to explore in ~50% layouts, and i have some ideas i want to try after Neuron and Cajal, so my advice is just stay tuned and u shouldn't have to wait more than a few months for something that would match your preferences without compromise.

have a polycarbonate render for your time. <3
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« Reply #46 on: Thu, 12 December 2019, 15:19:57 »
45 percent-- best layout! This looks chonky and great.
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« Reply #47 on: Thu, 12 December 2019, 15:28:21 »
45 percent-- best layout! This looks chonky and great.

hey thanks! and glws on the 45-ATS!

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« Reply #48 on: Thu, 12 December 2019, 16:52:27 »
hey! i see there is a clamoring in the thread for "full alphas" (i.e. another column to the right of ;/:). while i hear what you are saying, this probably won't happen with this project, for the following two reasons. first, the demand for this in the interest check form is quite low. 744 people have filled out the form so far (insane), and only 7 have requested something along these lines. to scale this interest, 11 people have requested I make a 65% and 14 have requested a 60% in the form. this means democratically, it isn't something most people interested in the board want added, and pales in comparison to requests for ortholinear support (~60) and a polycarbonate case option (~50), both of which i am working on adding to the final buy. second, i am planning to roll out a 50% or larger layout after i run this board, so i think that might be more interest for those who think of 'incomplete alphas' as a no-go. there is still a lot to explore in ~50% layouts, and i have some ideas i want to try after Neuron and Cajal, so my advice is just stay tuned and u shouldn't have to wait more than a few months for something that would match your preferences without compromise.

have a polycarbonate render for your time. <3
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First thank you for listening carefully to what folks say.
I believe 45% size is more concentrated on pure typing experience and I believe full alpha will serve the purpose even better.
I didn't show the interest explicitly assuming dimension involved changing at this stage is hard and I think there could be many people who thought like me.
But if you are OK with the change if there is enough interest, I'm in for full alpha.
I believe you may see different result if you have another IC form to choose between full alpha and traditional 45% layout.
I guess asking for 60, 65% is more like asking blue out of red while 45% full alpha is orange.
I would wait for your next project for larger size keyboard.

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« Reply #49 on: Thu, 12 December 2019, 23:46:23 »
first, the demand for this in the interest check form is quite low. 744 people have filled out the form so far (insane), and only 7 have requested something along these lines. to scale this interest, 11 people have requested I make a 65% and 14 have requested a 60% in the form. this means democratically, it isn't something most people interested in the board want added, and pales in comparison to requests for ortholinear support (~60) and a polycarbonate case option (~50), both of which i am working on adding to the final buy.

Just sayin', but using responses to a completely open-ended question to gauge relative interest in unspecified features is going to potentially give you staggeringly inaccurate results. If you actually care about doing it "democratically" (which tbh it's fine if you don't), you should be polling on specific layouts. Otherwise you might end up with a scenario where, say, a majority would prefer Layout A but assumed it wouldn't be on the table so there was no point in asking, while fans of Layout B, while fewer in number, were more bold about requesting it.

It could be that your initial assumptions are right; but there are just too many factors in play to be at all certain about the relevance of responses to an open-end that open-ended.