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Offline Kasterborous

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[IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« on: Sun, 09 February 2020, 08:58:27 »
Greetings!


I am here to present to you our debut keyboard, the HEX.3C
IC Form HERE:https://forms.gle/wbJAqcrpJMZ3DcGq9
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The HEX.3C is a simple 60% keyboard designed to challenge the current budget market, while offering a better typing feel with its different mounting system.
The mounting system we're going to be using will be a o-ring bottom mount.


Here's an exploded view of the HEX.3C
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The reason we decided to go with o-ring bottom mount is to relieve some of the stiffness from traditional bottom mount.
The plate will assist in that with the relief cuts near the mounting points, giving the user a bouncier and less stiff typing experience.


Here's a transparent side view for a better explanation and visualisation of how the keyboard will look like internally
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Specifications:
Case: Alu 6061, colours TBD
Weight: NIL
Plate(s): TBD(check google form)
PCBs: This keyboard will be fully compatible with DZ60 and its variants.
Typing Angle: 7
MOQ:50(Max units limited to 100 for first run)

Price is unconfirmed but expect a price range of around 100-150USD. Shipping will be separately invoiced.

Do join the discord server for updates:https://discord.gg/8AqgdBq
« Last Edit: Sun, 09 February 2020, 09:08:42 by Kasterborous »

Offline Kasterborous

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 09 February 2020, 08:58:56 »
Timeline:
  • 090220 - 160220: Protos are being made
  • Proto can only start production in March
  • TBD-IRL Photos
  • TBD-Build and Typing Test
  • TBD-GB Start(Est April)

UPDATE 12/02/20:
  • Tops available: HHKB, WKL, Standard
  • Layouts available: ANSI Fixed 6.25u bottom row, Universal Fixed 7u bottom row
  • Case Colours avail: Black, Blue, Silver, Grey, TBD, E-White could be an option but not confirmed.
  • NO PCBs will be provided for this run
  • Plate files will be available upon successful conclusion of this gb

ANSI Plate available layouts:
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Universal Plate available layouts:
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UPDATE 13/02/20:
  • We're changing factories
  • Proto and GB will be delayed.

UPDATE 16/02/20:
  • Plates and layouts have been reworked
  • Prototype estimated delivery will be in Early-Mid March
« Last Edit: Sun, 16 February 2020, 01:13:51 by Kasterborous »

Online gnhuy91

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 09 February 2020, 09:03:26 »
filled the form! interested

Offline Kasterborous

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 09 February 2020, 09:06:23 »
filled the form! interested

Thanks! Appreciated!

Offline ddnomad

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 09 February 2020, 09:11:14 »
Any chance youd offer HHKB tops (with blockers)?

Offline Kasterborous

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 09 February 2020, 09:26:38 »
Any chance youd offer HHKB tops (with blockers)?

Yes this is something we're taking into consideration

Offline xIHA

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 09 February 2020, 09:35:39 »
Nice board glwgb
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Online Rob27shred

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 09 February 2020, 10:26:53 »
Really like this ideal & will support it! We've been needing to see innovation in the budget realm for quite awhile. Beyond Leandre's Klippe & Type-X (both of which are modified tray mounts), regular old stiff & uneven type feel tray mounts have been almost all that's available if you're looking to spend less than $150 on a case. I think this could shake that up big time & also it looks like it'll make an awesome test bed for those of us who are willing to spend more on customs. Color me interested, IC filled out. :thumb:

Offline ddnomad

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 09 February 2020, 10:34:13 »
Really like this ideal & will support it! We've been needing to see innovation in the budget realm for quite awhile. Beyond Leandre's Klippe & Type-X (both of which are modified tray mounts), regular old stiff & uneven type feel tray mounts have been almost all that's available if you're looking to spend less than $150 on a case. I think this could shake that up big time & also it looks like it'll make an awesome test bed for those of us who are willing to spend more on customs. Color me interested, IC filled out. :thumb:

Id love to throw some millmax sockets in and make this keyboard my goto test board.

Offline Version467

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 09 February 2020, 10:42:46 »
At that price point, you're going to run out of your 100 units in seconds. Definetely interested.

Offline pixelpusher

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 09 February 2020, 11:08:03 »
Filled out the IC  :thumb:

Offline Rozalin81

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #11 on: Sun, 09 February 2020, 11:21:43 »
Very clean! Just when I thought I was done spending for the year, this might rope me back in if pricing is sub 150. Looking forward to seeing how this develops.

Offline tobiasvl

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #12 on: Sun, 09 February 2020, 11:58:19 »
Interested in ISO! Especially at a price point near $100, wtf.

Offline digital_nothing

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #13 on: Sun, 09 February 2020, 13:20:09 »
Love the look, love the price.

Offline Mavmaster21

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #14 on: Sun, 09 February 2020, 13:35:04 »
I'm very excited about this especially because of the price! GLWIC


Offline shoteve

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #15 on: Sun, 09 February 2020, 14:23:00 »
Does this include PCB? Or just case and plate?

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Offline Kinesiologist

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #16 on: Sun, 09 February 2020, 14:27:07 »
Looks good, already filled the IC form.

Please don't include the PCB since DZ60 is easy to get and readily available. (If it means reducing cost or time).
And please allow a universal plate to use on any layout (hhkb, tsangan, WKL, ANSI).

Thanks

Offline Bl4ck

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #17 on: Sun, 09 February 2020, 15:05:19 »
I currently have a hs60 v3 iso so if its compatible (should be?) I'm in for iso

Offline nathanchere

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #18 on: Mon, 10 February 2020, 01:41:18 »
Any chance youd offer HHKB tops (with blockers)?
+1

Offline demonahz

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #19 on: Mon, 10 February 2020, 02:33:58 »
Lovely. I'm in.

And would be even more in if considered a bit thicker/deeper bottom to accommodate a battery for BLE PCBs. at least the option to it (with its costs of course).

Offline Han

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #20 on: Mon, 10 February 2020, 03:47:03 »
Interested!



Offline FredBananaz

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #21 on: Mon, 10 February 2020, 04:50:11 »
Interested as well!

Offline Kasterborous

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #22 on: Mon, 10 February 2020, 05:28:40 »
Really like this ideal & will support it! We've been needing to see innovation in the budget realm for quite awhile. Beyond Leandre's Klippe & Type-X (both of which are modified tray mounts), regular old stiff & uneven type feel tray mounts have been almost all that's available if you're looking to spend less than $150 on a case. I think this could shake that up big time & also it looks like it'll make an awesome test bed for those of us who are willing to spend more on customs. Color me interested, IC filled out. :thumb:

Hahah, yes this was our intention when we set out to design and conceptualize this keyboard!

Offline Kasterborous

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #23 on: Mon, 10 February 2020, 05:31:18 »
Does this include PCB? Or just case and plate?

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Looks good, already filled the IC form.

Please don't include the PCB since DZ60 is easy to get and readily available. (If it means reducing cost or time).
And please allow a universal plate to use on any layout (hhkb, tsangan, WKL, ANSI).

Thanks

This kit comes without PCB, however there is discussion right now on whether we should offer pcbs as an addon, for a price of course.
Keep in mind we're gonna be shipping from Singapore so as it is we'd rather you guys get PCBs from a vendor near you, rather than tank the costs of shipping from halfway around the world

Offline Italian_T3ddy_v2

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #24 on: Mon, 10 February 2020, 08:25:26 »
The design to me looks similar to the Tofu but with thicker bezels and I love it, keep it simple like those renders and it will for sure be an interesting case; HHKB top would be even nicer imho
Also please consider making the bottom case compatible with a battery for BT PCBs, and I'd personally be happy to pay 200-220$ for the case bundled with a BT PCB :D
Btw I'm curious about the o-ring bottom mount, looking forward to try it!

Offline TameFlame

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #25 on: Mon, 10 February 2020, 14:56:11 »
Pricepoint seems very favorable for a lot of people - it's always nice to see the possibility of diversity, for people who are just now getting into building. Good luck, I'll be following!

Offline digital_nothing

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #26 on: Mon, 10 February 2020, 22:42:20 »
If the design/shape isn't final, have you thought about chamfered or rounded edges? It looks a bit too tofu-ish as it is.

Offline Unick

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #27 on: Tue, 11 February 2020, 01:14:43 »
Will the pcb supports alps switches?

Offline FredBananaz

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #28 on: Tue, 11 February 2020, 05:27:29 »
If the design/shape isn't final, have you thought about chamfered or rounded edges? It looks a bit too tofu-ish as it is.

Would this not increase the price as a result of increased manufactering time?

Personally, I don't mind the similarities with the Tofu, as the mounting system is different enough to "justify" the similar looks.

Offline Kasterborous

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #29 on: Tue, 11 February 2020, 08:17:27 »
If the design/shape isn't final, have you thought about chamfered or rounded edges? It looks a bit too tofu-ish as it is.

our intention was to keep the design language simple while also keeping production costs down. we could've added a lot of bells and whistles to set ourselves apart during the design process, but for this round of the hex.3c at least, our focus is more on price/performance.

Offline Kasterborous

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #30 on: Tue, 11 February 2020, 13:11:51 »
Will the pcb supports alps switches?

as of right now the plate doesn't support alps. you will have to get your own pcb yourself.

However, the plate files will be released after the GB has concluded, so feel free to edit it to support your alps switches!

Offline ray160

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #31 on: Tue, 11 February 2020, 13:16:50 »
The Tofu v2 will have some competition

Offline YungDaff

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #32 on: Tue, 11 February 2020, 15:26:03 »
Interesting board, filled in the IC form. Rare to see boards in this price range that aren't tray mounts. Interesting to see if this mounting style can offer a softer bottom out.


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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #33 on: Wed, 12 February 2020, 15:12:30 »
Definitely interested, looks like an interesting and cheap board, gl with this!

Offline GeekFreeek

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #34 on: Wed, 12 February 2020, 17:09:57 »
This is awesome! I really hope this makes it to production and I can get my hands one it! Will this support boards like the DZ60?

Offline Kasterborous

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #35 on: Thu, 13 February 2020, 09:17:31 »
Updated post!

Offline Kasterborous

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #36 on: Thu, 13 February 2020, 09:20:51 »
This is awesome! I really hope this makes it to production and I can get my hands one it! Will this support boards like the DZ60?

yes. this keyboard should support dz60 and its various other iterations.

Offline hkiri

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #37 on: Thu, 13 February 2020, 11:28:49 »
Any chance for other tops (HHKB, WKL)?

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #38 on: Thu, 13 February 2020, 12:39:29 »
Looks nice! Few questions: Some of the screw holes are super deep. I doubt many people would have long keys for those. Also will you offer winkeyless top piece? And have you considered double o-rings per screw (in the order of screw, o-ring, plate, o-ring)?
     

Offline Kasterborous

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #39 on: Thu, 13 February 2020, 21:51:21 »
Any chance for other tops (HHKB, WKL)?
Yes they will be offered. Do check the updates post below the main post for more details!

Looks nice! Few questions: Some of the screw holes are super deep. I doubt many people would have long keys for those. Also will you offer winkeyless top piece? And have you considered double o-rings per screw (in the order of screw, o-ring, plate, o-ring)?

We will be providing extra o-rings, so do feel free to experiment!


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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #40 on: Thu, 13 February 2020, 22:22:14 »
Happy to see a lower end board. I see that you are not planning a weight which is fine if that helps get this out in that low price.
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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #41 on: Fri, 14 February 2020, 17:11:35 »
Will the cannon instant 60 fit

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #42 on: Fri, 14 February 2020, 17:42:43 »
If I didn't already own 3 Klippes, I'd be all over this.

Good luck with this OP. Thank you for bringing an awesome looking budget option to the community!

Offline Bl4ck

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #43 on: Sat, 15 February 2020, 03:50:10 »
Make the universal also standard 6.25 bottom row...

Offline MeloDet

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #44 on: Sat, 15 February 2020, 09:17:14 »
Personally I would really appreciate either a third plate option for tsangan style layouts or the inclusion of 7u bottom row support on the current "fixed" plate

Offline Kasterborous

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #45 on: Sat, 15 February 2020, 10:48:40 »
Personally I would really appreciate either a third plate option for tsangan style layouts or the inclusion of 7u bottom row support on the current "fixed" plate


The universal plate exists for that layout.

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« Reply #46 on: Sat, 15 February 2020, 12:36:43 »
I think it would make more sense to offer 7u bottom row on the fixed plate and 6.25u on the universal plate. Quite a few European ISO layouts make frequent use of AltGr, which is reached more comfortably on a 6.25u bottom row.
Tbh, I just want a 7u fixed plate.

Offline Bl4ck

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« Reply #47 on: Sat, 15 February 2020, 16:57:38 »
Yep. For iso that universal plate makes no sense. Atleast if u use actual iso

Offline Kasterborous

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #48 on: Sun, 16 February 2020, 00:17:02 »
I think it would make more sense to offer 7u bottom row on the fixed plate and 6.25u on the universal plate. Quite a few European ISO layouts make frequent use of AltGr, which is reached more comfortably on a 6.25u bottom row.
Tbh, I just want a 7u fixed plate.

Yep. For iso that universal plate makes no sense. Atleast if u use actual iso

Points taken, we're reworking the plate right now.

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Re: [IC] HEX.3C - by Hex Keyboards
« Reply #49 on: Sun, 16 February 2020, 06:37:32 »
Could you do an acrylic bottom case or add acrylic strips between the top and bottom cases for underglow? There doesn't seem to be too many options for rectangular 60% cases with underglow and there seems to be a demand for some since the duck viper v3 gb filled its 100 spots in one minute.