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Offline alexbarb

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[GB] Lyra Keyboard (Production)
« on: Sun, 01 March 2020, 02:33:22 »
GB Lyra Keyboard






GB is unlimited, MOQ is 50.
There will only ever be one run.
















More information about Lyra:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104550.0


Design Features

• 7075 aluminum CNC-machined enclosure
• Weight ~ 810 g (28.6 oz)
• Size 338,5 × 104 × 27 mm (13.3 × 4 × 1.1 inch)
• Universal design, accommodates Alpha and Beta PCBs
• 6° typing angle
• Cerakote
• Alpha or Beta hot-swap PCB (USB Type C connector)
• One RGB LED
• Fully programmable (supports QMK)
• Controller parts, diodes, resistors and hot-swap soket are pre-soldered
• 1.5 mm Black POM plate (only PCB-mounted stabilizer)
• 6.25U off-center spacebar
• M2 screws
• Recessed depression on bottom of case for rubber bumpers (rubber bumpers will be included)


Layout

Alpha 58/62 MX Hot-swap PCB








Beta 58/62 MX Hot-swap PCB








Cerakote color options



• Cobalt H-112
• Blue Titanium H-185
• Polar Blue H-326
• Pink Champagne H-311
• Bright Purple H-217
• Robin’s Egg Blue H-175
• Corvette Yellow H-144


Pricing and shipping

Price (inclusive of PayPal fee):
$260 for case + PCB and black POM plate (Alpha or Beta) + fasteners
$65 for extra PCB and plate (Alpha or Beta) + fasteners

Shipping (inclusive of PayPal fee):
$37 worldwide with track (from Ukraine)

GB Starts: March 1, 2020
GB Ends: March 22, 2020

Est. shipping: July October 2020. Disclaimer: shipping date subject to change.
Pre-orders are not refundable.

Order form:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1URXpD1XRUMwnJEDWFc2hf7YRDB2KPsCmof1_UC2QrjY/edit


Production

Those are bare PCBs right out of printing without any components soldered.




Serial sample






14 September 2020 UPDATE

Unfortunatly, the shipment schedule is shifted once again due to the packages with PCBs are stuck in Poland.
We are working closely with the both factory and the shiping forwarder to solve this delay. We are monitoring the situation.
You can see the screenshots of our conversations with the factory representative regarding the issue down below.

We are deeply sorry for all the trouble this delay might have caused you.

On the bright side, however, the cases and the plates are ready. We will share the photos of them in the coming days.



https://discord.gg/r4sKXNF
« Last Edit: Thu, 01 October 2020, 00:31:16 by alexbarb »

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 01 March 2020, 11:05:21 »
approved
If you need any GB or classifieds post approved send me a PM here or on Discord Gus#1121

Offline Serious salamander

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 01 March 2020, 11:25:27 »
In for a left handed numpad, cobalt version. So excited.

Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 01 March 2020, 11:31:56 »
glwb  :thumb:

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 01 March 2020, 12:05:10 »
gl :thumb:

Offline bakuretsu

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 01 March 2020, 18:19:05 »
I submitted the form, but I haven't received an email confirmation yet so I don't know if it worked. Has anyone else who submitted a form received an email confirmation yet?

Offline Serious salamander

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 01 March 2020, 18:48:07 »
I submitted the form, but I haven't received an email confirmation yet so I don't know if it worked. Has anyone else who submitted a form received an email confirmation yet?

I haven't received a confirmation either for what it's worth.

Offline alexbarb

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 02 March 2020, 05:47:36 »
I submitted the form, but I haven't received an email confirmation yet so I don't know if it worked. Has anyone else who submitted a form received an email confirmation yet?

Everything is good. The invoices will be sent a little later. I answer mail if there are any questions

Offline Jaltr

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 02 March 2020, 06:11:05 »
Thank you for making this unlimited. Will be purchasing when I got things figured out!

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Offline bakuretsu

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 02 March 2020, 12:24:33 »
It would probably be a good idea to make posts on the MechanicalKeyboards, MechMarket, and MechGroupBuys subreddits for some extra visibility. I haven't seen any for this GB there yet.

Offline lluvia

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 02 March 2020, 19:34:25 »
Hi, sorry if this is a silly question -- If I get an extra PCB, that means I can switch between Alpha and Beta layouts?

Offline alexbarb

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 02 March 2020, 22:09:01 »
Hi, sorry if this is a silly question -- If I get an extra PCB, that means I can switch between Alpha and Beta layouts?

Yes, this can be done by replacing the PCB.

Offline kmfmppl

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 03:01:44 »
Nice. I like the layout options. Will the case be made in the Ukraine in its entirety? CNC, cerakoting etc?

Offline alexbarb

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 04:13:18 »
Nice. I like the layout options. Will the case be made in the Ukraine in its entirety? CNC, cerakoting etc?

Yes. The body will be completely made there. POM plate is most likely in Italy.

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 14:14:31 »
If I wanted to make a change to my order, would PMing you on discord be the easiest?

Offline bakuretsu

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #15 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 15:03:48 »
I'm debating getting a Taro set to go with the yellow version of this. Haven't bought a GMK set yet, but I think that color palette would look really good with a yellow case. Opinions?

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #16 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 17:20:19 »
I'm debating getting a Taro set to go with the yellow version of this. Haven't bought a GMK set yet, but I think that color palette would look really good with a yellow case. Opinions?
I think it'll look v nice imo, but all up to you in the end.

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Offline bakuretsu

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #17 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 21:29:20 »
Would it be possible to add renders of the all the available color options? I think that might help people who are on the fence decide if they want to buy.
Also, it might be a good idea to show keycaps with legends instead of blank ones to eliminate confusion about the layout.

Offline krikun98

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #18 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 15:09:18 »
The purple looks sweet, a bummer that green's been cancelled. I'm in, best of luck!

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #19 on: Sat, 07 March 2020, 12:39:54 »
Very interested in this but mainly in the pcb and plate.

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #20 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 09:59:34 »
Isn't this a clone of TKC's Candybar?

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #21 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 10:26:45 »
Isn't this a clone of TKC's Candybar?

There are big differences. Another idea. But CandyBar inspired me

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #22 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 10:33:59 »
Isn't this a clone of TKC's Candybar?

This is a variant of the layout similar to CandyBar. but with a different approach. And with a new design solution

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #23 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 10:56:37 »
I'm surprised. It's common to ask permission before running a clone or "inspired by" design like this - see all the Alice clones. Permission was sought and granted.

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #24 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 11:03:32 »
I'm surprised. It's common to ask permission before running a clone or "inspired by" design like this - see all the Alice clones. Permission was sought and granted.

Have you closely watched the differences?

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #25 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 11:09:51 »
Frankly IDGAF. It was a novel design, and you've duplicated 90%+ of it. It's not like you did another riff on a TKL.

I wonder what the reaction would be if TKC announced Infinikey Hyperfuse tomorrow...?

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #26 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 11:11:34 »
I'm surprised. It's common to ask permission before running a clone or "inspired by" design like this - see all the Alice clones. Permission was sought and granted.

What hahaahah)) a clone of what??

Offline Serious salamander

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #27 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 11:17:32 »
Frankly IDGAF. It was a novel design, and you've duplicated 90%+ of it. It's not like you did another riff on a TKL.

I wonder what the reaction would be if TKC announced Infinikey Hyperfuse tomorrow...?

There’s only so many possible layouts. If people had to ask permission for every keyboard with a similar layout, it would basically be every single new keyboard. Frankly I don’t see any issues, the candy bar GB is over and even if not, you don’t have a patent on a layout. He already said he was inspired by the candybar and gave credit there, I don’t see any issue.

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #28 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 11:32:47 »
It's an active product. The GB is still fulfilling. Extras haven't even gone up for sale yet.

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #29 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 11:44:01 »
It's an active product. The GB is still fulfilling. Extras haven't even gone up for sale yet.
What are you trying to say?

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #30 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 11:45:22 »
Previous poster implied that it was ok to clone Candybar since the GB is over.

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #31 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 11:48:43 »
It is not a clone. Even if it seems to you very much

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #32 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 11:52:06 »
Previous poster implied that it was ok to clone Candybar since the GB is over.

Fact of the matter is there's only so many ways to design a rectangular keyboard. The layouts are the same yes, but there are many new keyboards with the same layouts but other changes.

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #33 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 11:57:35 »
That is the point. There is no copying here. There is another option in the same format. I see no problems) a lot of things can be discussed in what I did

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #34 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 12:10:39 »
Previous poster implied that it was ok to clone Candybar since the GB is over.

I don’t have anything TKC they are cool guys) but as I understand it, you are cooperating with them ... and if it’s really true, I would like to find out from whom they asked for permission or buy a patent... on OG 1800 cherry ... on m0116 ... on SSK ... these are 1 in 1 copied keyboards ..... BUT I know personally and for a long time this is a person and Lyra I saw a long time ago as a project..... just calm down)
« Last Edit: Sun, 08 March 2020, 12:16:55 by SantiGo »

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #35 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 12:16:41 »
I'm surprised. It's common to ask permission before running a clone or "inspired by" design like this - see all the Alice clones. Permission was sought and granted.

So because a 40% with a numpad exists, it's not ok to design another one? No one has to get permission from the designer of the first 40%, 60%, 65%, 1800, etc. in order to design a new one of those.

Besides, the case design is different, the mounting points are different, the spacebar layout options are different, there's an indicator LED, the color options are different, it's Cerakoted instead of anodized, and even the aluminum alloy the case is made of is different.

It's ok to have options in the market. The layout the Candybar uses isn't patented, and this keyboard isn't a clone of that anyway.

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #36 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 12:18:31 »
I'm surprised. It's common to ask permission before running a clone or "inspired by" design like this - see all the Alice clones. Permission was sought and granted.

So because a 40% with a numpad exists, it's not ok to design another one? No one has to get permission from the designer of the first 40%, 60%, 65%, 1800, etc. in order to design a new one of those.

Besides, the case design is different, the mounting points are different, the spacebar layout options are different, there's an indicator LED, the color options are different, it's Cerakoted instead of anodized, and even the aluminum alloy the case is made of is different.

It's ok to have options in the market. The layout the Candybar uses isn't patented, and this keyboard isn't a clone of that anyway.

A much more elegant version of what I was trying to say haha.

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #37 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 12:29:58 »
I'm surprised. It's common to ask permission before running a clone or "inspired by" design like this - see all the Alice clones. Permission was sought and granted.

So because a 40% with a numpad exists, it's not ok to design another one? No one has to get permission from the designer of the first 40%, 60%, 65%, 1800, etc. in order to design a new one of those.

Besides, the case design is different, the mounting points are different, the spacebar layout options are different, there's an indicator LED, the color options are different, it's Cerakoted instead of anodized, and even the aluminum alloy the case is made of is different.

It's ok to have options in the market. The layout the Candybar uses isn't patented, and this keyboard isn't a clone of that anyway.

Even the layout is not a clone. It's right

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #38 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 12:41:54 »
Frankly IDGAF. It was a novel design, and you've duplicated 90%+ of it. It's not like you did another riff on a TKL.

I wonder what the reaction would be if TKC announced Infinikey Hyperfuse tomorrow...?
Bruh, did you even look at the IC? Don't come here with that attitude of "idgaf". Inspiration is inspiration. If TKC had a problem, wouldn't they have contacted when the IC was up? Not now, when the GB is running.

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #39 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 12:45:29 »
Previous poster implied that it was ok to clone Candybar since the GB is over.

I don’t have anything TKC they are cool guys) but as I understand it, you are cooperating with them ... and if it’s really true, I would like to find out from whom they asked for permission or buy a patent... on OG 1800 cherry ... on m0116 ... on SSK ... these are 1 in 1 copied keyboards ..... BUT I know personally and for a long time this is a person and Lyra I saw a long time ago as a project..... just calm down)

Those boards date back to the 80s and TKC is based in the US. If they were patented, the patents expired after 20 years.

Funny how the goalposts moved from right to legal in short order. I never once said it was illegal for you to do what you are doing. Just that it's not right.

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #40 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 12:46:57 »
Frankly IDGAF. It was a novel design, and you've duplicated 90%+ of it. It's not like you did another riff on a TKL.

I wonder what the reaction would be if TKC announced Infinikey Hyperfuse tomorrow...?
Bruh, did you even look at the IC? Don't come here with that attitude of "idgaf". Inspiration is inspiration. If TKC had a problem, wouldn't they have contacted when the IC was up? Not now, when the GB is running.

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We became aware of it this morning.

Offline lluvia

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #41 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 12:55:34 »
Sorry for another noob question.
There is no layout that would allow me for a standard 2.25u Enter/Return key?

Offline Serious salamander

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #42 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 13:01:43 »
Frankly IDGAF. It was a novel design, and you've duplicated 90%+ of it. It's not like you did another riff on a TKL.

I wonder what the reaction would be if TKC announced Infinikey Hyperfuse tomorrow...?
Bruh, did you even look at the IC? Don't come here with that attitude of "idgaf". Inspiration is inspiration. If TKC had a problem, wouldn't they have contacted when the IC was up? Not now, when the GB is running.

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We became aware of it this morning.


I like your company and products, don't get me wrong, but I disagree with your notion that someone using the same layout as one of your group buys should ask your permission first. I have no way of checking, but I'm willing to bet you were not the first person/group to think of a 40% keyboard with a numpad.

There are substantial differences in this keyboard and your own, I don't think every single new keyboard design should have to "ask" permission from other keyboard designers just for using the same layout.
« Last Edit: Sun, 08 March 2020, 13:06:02 by Serious salamander »

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #43 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 13:09:15 »
Can we stop fighting and get proper renders for the different colors + keycap layouts instead? lol

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #44 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 13:11:09 »
Can we stop fighting and get proper renders for the different colors + keycap layouts instead? lol

I'd agree, also if OP is willing to share, I'd love to know if the MOQ is close to being met.

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #45 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 13:25:05 »
Can we stop fighting and get proper renders for the different colors + keycap layouts instead? lol

I'd agree, also if OP is willing to share, I'd love to know if the MOQ is close to being met.

It can be seen

Offline bakuretsu

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #46 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 13:33:18 »
Sorry if this comes across as mean-spirited, but I thought this quote from Terry on the TKC "about us" page was funny in light of this thread:


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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #47 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 14:10:58 »
Sorry if this comes across as mean-spirited, but I thought this quote from Terry on the TKC "about us" page was funny in light of this thread:

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Not sure I see the humor. Cloning is the opposite of diversity.

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #48 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 14:21:35 »
Have you bothered to read IC? Everything is detailed there. You try to attach my layout to the CandyBar. Share what happened. Good luck)
« Last Edit: Sun, 08 March 2020, 14:33:33 by alexbarb »

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #49 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 14:34:11 »
I think it's best if we stick to the topic at hand, which is this group buy.

Obviously, TKC is allowed to believe that they should have been asked for permission, that is their right. However, it is irrelevant to this group buy and we should try to stay on topic. I believe some people had requested renders of the proposed colors if possible.