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Offline julianz

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Ever since i joined this hobby i've been looking for an ergonomically optimized board such as this!!! I love this board's design and layout  ;D ;D

I was wondering if you were open to having an Oceania vendor? (Might i recommend Stef from https://www.switchkeys.com.au/, hes a super nice and awesome guy!)

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This is perfect. Forget the B agnostics they can't pick a side.

Offline RossLocke18

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I personally really like this! Only thing I would suggest is to potentially make use of all the dead space in the middle. An engraving, logo, badge, rotary lol. But I will certainly be keeping my eyes on this one :)

Offline Gondolindrim

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I personally really like this! Only thing I would suggest is to potentially make use of all the dead space in the middle. An engraving, logo, badge, rotary lol. But I will certainly be keeping my eyes on this one :)

We already have something on that space. You are gonna love it!
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Offline dvorcol

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I personally really like this! Only thing I would suggest is to potentially make use of all the dead space in the middle. An engraving, logo, badge, rotary lol. But I will certainly be keeping my eyes on this one :)

We already have something on that space. You are gonna love it!

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Great design and amazing write-ups!

My only comment is just being nit-picky - I'm not a huge fan of the recessed logo so close to where hands might glaze/rub/touch. It seems to me that it would collect more dust/grim than if it was placed on the upper corners/middle. Personally, I would love to see a Sagittarius themed logo - maybe the constellation can be a backdrop to the cannonkeys logo?

Great design and amazing write-ups!

My only comment is just being nit-picky - I'm not a huge fan of the recessed logo so close to where hands might glaze/rub/touch. It seems to me that it would collect more dust/grim than if it was placed on the upper corners/middle. Personally, I would love to see a Sagittarius themed logo - maybe the constellation can be a backdrop to the cannonkeys logo?
Your objections to the logo placement makes sense to me.

I’d also like to see a Sagittarius logo, as you suggested.


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You will be surprised. There is a Sagittarius logo on Sagittarius, but you can't see it. Yet.

Careful inspection of the PCB hints at a location for the Sagittarius logo.
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Offline Gondolindrim

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I personally really like this! Only thing I would suggest is to potentially make use of all the dead space in the middle. An engraving, logo, badge, rotary lol. But I will certainly be keeping my eyes on this one :)

We already have something on that space. You are gonna love it!

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Great design and amazing write-ups!

My only comment is just being nit-picky - I'm not a huge fan of the recessed logo so close to where hands might glaze/rub/touch. It seems to me that it would collect more dust/grim than if it was placed on the upper corners/middle. Personally, I would love to see a Sagittarius themed logo - maybe the constellation can be a backdrop to the cannonkeys logo?

Great design and amazing write-ups!

My only comment is just being nit-picky - I'm not a huge fan of the recessed logo so close to where hands might glaze/rub/touch. It seems to me that it would collect more dust/grim than if it was placed on the upper corners/middle. Personally, I would love to see a Sagittarius themed logo - maybe the constellation can be a backdrop to the cannonkeys logo?
Your objections to the logo placement makes sense to me.

Iíd also like to see a Sagittarius logo, as you suggested.


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You will be surprised. There is a Sagittarius logo on Sagittarius, but you can't see it. Yet.

Careful inspection of the PCB hints at a location for the Sagittarius logo.
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ssshhh ssshhh

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Offline Wamuu

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I've finally found the first ergo board I actually want to buy. This is the one!

Offline lakeboredom

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Very excited to try this layout. The big rounded corners of the case are an aesthetic turn off though. To mirror what someone else commented, I think it's the combination of rounded corners and sharper squared off edges in the middle that I find kind of mismatched.

Offline konstantin

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Very excited to try this layout. The big rounded corners of the case are an aesthetic turn off though. To mirror what someone else commented, I think it's the combination of rounded corners and sharper squared off edges in the middle that I find kind of mismatched.

Agreed on all points.

Offline mizuwolf

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Ohhh man I love the arrow keys option; I'd be alllll over this if it was hotswap! Fingers crossed you're able to make that work c:

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Count me in!

Offline Wamuu

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Ohhh man I love the arrow keys option; I'd be alllll over this if it was hotswap! Fingers crossed you're able to make that work c:

Probably impossible to do without giving up the ability to use rotary encoders.

Offline Gondolindrim

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Very excited to try this layout. The big rounded corners of the case are an aesthetic turn off though. To mirror what someone else commented, I think it's the combination of rounded corners and sharper squared off edges in the middle that I find kind of mismatched.

Very excited to try this layout. The big rounded corners of the case are an aesthetic turn off though. To mirror what someone else commented, I think it's the combination of rounded corners and sharper squared off edges in the middle that I find kind of mismatched.

Agreed on all points.

Case is being reworked and we should see an update soon!

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Offline Gondolindrim

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Ohhh man I love the arrow keys option; I'd be alllll over this if it was hotswap! Fingers crossed you're able to make that work c:

Probably impossible to do without giving up the ability to use rotary encoders.

Right on the dot -- also, doing hotswap with suspended PCB designs like top mount and gasket is a nightmare because we have to include posts on the PCB and plates, making for a new plate+PCB kit. This is a double-edged sword because if we offer that as an addon on top of a possible default solderable PCB and "normal" plate people will get angry because they are forced into getting two kits. On the other hand, if we make it a new kit that can be selected, it will break kit numbers -- possibly not reaching MOQ on the process -- and making for more logistics, more kits to manage, more shipping.

Hotswap also has technical problems, such as a shortened PCB lifespan and the possibility of popping the sockets out.
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Offline DukeEsquire

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Ohhh man I love the arrow keys option; I'd be alllll over this if it was hotswap! Fingers crossed you're able to make that work c:

Just mill-max it.

Offline FlitzDeelman

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Just mill-max it.

Sorry if this has been answered before, I know itís been asked on at least one of the GBs Iím following.

Can the PCB be Mill-Maxed?


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Offline konstantin

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Case is being reworked and we should see an update soon!

Great news, thanks Gondo!

Offline perry4761

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Count me in!
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Offline SenseiJia

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Interesting...I'll keep an eye on this.

Offline Kahgen

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On my radar for sure. The anticipation is killing me!

Offline kommotion

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Very interested! Really want to see what the new case design looks like.

Offline jmcameron

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Please add me to the list of interested people!
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Offline RedBananaBread

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Very interesting layout! Keeping an eye on this :D

Offline Xpliscit

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Add me to list! Can't wait

Offline hudsonnc

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Re: [IC] Sagittarius, a gasket-mount optimized ergonomic layout custom keyboard
« Reply #224 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 08:15:06 »
I am very interested! Please add me to the list :)

I really love your approach to this -- optimization using mathematical bio-mechanical models, testing with real humans with an eye towards making this usable for people with repetitive use injuries, etc. Really nice work. And my condolences about your friend. It's really lovely that you are trying to help out his family a bit with the proceeds, and I would be honored to contribute (and get a sweet keyboard too!).

Offline perry4761

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Re: [IC] Sagittarius, a gasket-mount optimized ergonomic layout custom keyboard
« Reply #225 on: Sun, 02 August 2020, 10:42:58 »
Having the option of choosing a case with rounded cutouts for the knobs would be a very nice addition, even though I totally understand all the reasons why you might not want to do that. Canít wait for this to go into GB, I love the scientific approach you guys took for this board! I hope this layout catches on
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Offline Xpliscit

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Re: [IC] Sagittarius, a gasket-mount optimized ergonomic layout custom keyboard
« Reply #226 on: Sun, 02 August 2020, 13:17:33 »
What about a frosted polycarb case option?

Offline Gondolindrim

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Re: [IC] Sagittarius, a gasket-mount optimized ergonomic layout custom keyboard
« Reply #227 on: Sun, 02 August 2020, 15:41:25 »
Having the option of choosing a case with rounded cutouts for the knobs would be a very nice addition, even though I totally understand all the reasons why you might not want to do that. Canít wait for this to go into GB, I love the scientific approach you guys took for this board! I hope this layout catches on

Rounded cutouts do not support switches, unfortunately
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Offline Gondolindrim

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Re: [IC] Sagittarius, a gasket-mount optimized ergonomic layout custom keyboard
« Reply #228 on: Sun, 02 August 2020, 15:42:04 »
What about a frosted polycarb case option?

If Upas can offer it, I don't see why not. The format of the group buy (colors, materials, quantities) is totally up to him
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Offline beigeandbrown

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Re: [IC] Sagittarius, a gasket-mount optimized ergonomic layout custom keyboard
« Reply #229 on: Sun, 02 August 2020, 15:57:18 »
Probably wont appeal to most people, but I really think a delrin (POM) or polycarb bottom with the aluminum top would fit this case well. Specifically a grey delrin bottom would be killer with that midnight blue top. It could cost less than polycarb due to how easy it is to machine and the surface of delrin just has a really cool ghostly look to it that no other material can match. Anyways just want to say I love this board. Also like the idea of punching small holes in the top case to let light through and drive home that constellation look.

Offline Ammomruoy

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Re: [IC] Sagittarius, a gasket-mount optimized ergonomic layout custom keyboard
« Reply #230 on: Wed, 05 August 2020, 06:07:33 »
Cant wait for this one! Count me in please!

Offline Wamuu

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Re: [IC] Sagittarius, a gasket-mount optimized ergonomic layout custom keyboard
« Reply #231 on: Wed, 05 August 2020, 17:58:02 »
I'm buying KAT Cyberspace specifically for this board. I hope Upas includes a dark grey or black color option!!!!!

Offline Xpliscit

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Re: [IC] Sagittarius, a gasket-mount optimized ergonomic layout custom keyboard
« Reply #232 on: Wed, 05 August 2020, 19:23:18 »
Is there an updated (estimated) timeline for GB? Or is UPAS the decider on that?

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Re: [IC] Sagittarius, a gasket-mount optimized ergonomic layout custom keyboard
« Reply #233 on: Wed, 05 August 2020, 20:25:45 »
Is there an updated (estimated) timeline for GB? Or is UPAS the decider on that?

He is currently reworking the case and it's hard to give an estimate. It's done when we feel the case is on par with design standards and we are sure that we have achieved the feedback given here.
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Offline Wamuu

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Re: [IC] Sagittarius, a gasket-mount optimized ergonomic layout custom keyboard
« Reply #234 on: Wed, 05 August 2020, 20:37:26 »
any chance the PCB will also be VIA compatible?

Offline HRB

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Re: [IC] Sagittarius, a gasket-mount optimized ergonomic layout custom keyboard
« Reply #235 on: Wed, 05 August 2020, 22:08:18 »
I can wait for all other keycap sets and boards without any problem, but I get really impatient with this board. I want it asap so bad.

Offline samanth

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Re: [IC] Sagittarius, a gasket-mount optimized ergonomic layout custom keyboard
« Reply #236 on: Wed, 05 August 2020, 22:39:56 »
Definitely on my list. Always in for a good cause. Cheers.

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Re: [IC] Sagittarius, a gasket-mount optimized ergonomic layout custom keyboard
« Reply #237 on: Wed, 05 August 2020, 23:13:20 »
any chance the PCB will also be VIA compatible?

PCB will definitely be VIA compatible, don't need to resort to chance  :D
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Re: [IC] Sagittarius, a gasket-mount optimized ergonomic layout custom keyboard
« Reply #238 on: Wed, 05 August 2020, 23:14:03 »
I can wait for all other keycap sets and boards without any problem, but I get really impatient with this board. I want it asap so bad.

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Re: [IC] Sagittarius, a gasket-mount optimized ergonomic layout custom keyboard
« Reply #239 on: Wed, 05 August 2020, 23:15:11 »
Definitely on my list. Always in for a good cause. Cheers.

Thanks mate! Cheers!
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Offline HRB

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Re: [IC] Sagittarius, a gasket-mount optimized ergonomic layout custom keyboard
« Reply #240 on: Wed, 05 August 2020, 23:19:36 »
I can wait for all other keycap sets and boards without any problem, but I get really impatient with this board. I want it asap so bad.

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I meant.. I only waited less than two months now and it feels like it's been at least 4~5 months since I first read this IC post. Can't wait

Offline Wamuu

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Re: [IC] Sagittarius, a gasket-mount optimized ergonomic layout custom keyboard
« Reply #241 on: Thu, 06 August 2020, 07:27:59 »
I'm curious to see how the RGB will look on the pcb. So the only points of RGB on the board will be the points that create the Sagittarius?  Won't a significant of the RGB then not actually be underneath the solid parts of the case and not under keys where they can be appreciated?

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Re: [IC] Sagittarius, a gasket-mount optimized ergonomic layout custom keyboard
« Reply #242 on: Thu, 06 August 2020, 11:14:33 »
I'm curious to see how the RGB will look on the pcb. So the only points of RGB on the board will be the points that create the Sagittarius?  Won't a significant of the RGB then not actually be underneath the solid parts of the case and not under keys where they can be appreciated?

Albeit being under the case, you will be able to see the RGB lights.
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