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Offline worldspawn

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Re: [GB] Gothic70/50 - Alice style board with arrow keys in acrylic/POM (Extras!)
« Reply #350 on: Sat, 03 October 2020, 16:17:40 »
Is there any possible way to alter the case (DIY) so the screws feed from the bottom? Or another way to secure the case?

The screws enter from the top and bottom and secure to standoffs that reside in the inner layers, there's not a good way to move the screws off the top.  If you want something that stands out less, getting matching black, white or nylon screws can be done, and you can countersink them so they sit flush with the top of the case. The top screws are m3, 10mm long.
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Re: [GB] Gothic70/50 - Alice style board with arrow keys in acrylic/POM (Extras!)
« Reply #351 on: Sat, 03 October 2020, 17:54:52 »
Is there any possible way to alter the case (DIY) so the screws feed from the bottom? Or another way to secure the case?

The screws enter from the top and bottom and secure to standoffs that reside in the inner layers, there's not a good way to move the screws off the top.  If you want something that stands out less, getting matching black, white or nylon screws can be done, and you can countersink them so they sit flush with the top of the case. The top screws are m3, 10mm long.

Ah, good idea with countersinking! Might have to try that. Thanks!

Offline jollyeskimo

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I fixed the issue with shaving a bit of the plate off on top of the stab wire with a xakto knife and lubing the underside of the plate and the stab wire as well. Seems to be working very well since. 4 more stabs to go...and 2 Arisu boards after that.

I did pretty much the same fix by dremelling/milling off half the thickness of the plate above all the stab wires.

The 70 remains one of my fav daily drivers and it didn't even cost a fortune.
« Last Edit: Wed, 07 October 2020, 00:28:11 by jollyeskimo »

Offline TimeDoctor

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Yes, the original plate didnít work for me. The newest plate (  https://github.com/worldspawn00/Gothic70/blob/master/Gothic70%20cut%20files/plate.svg  ) works better, but somehow still gets me with sticky stabs, and sometimes not right away. Usually after a few minutes or hours of typing. I am glad someone else has tried different stabs, because I thought it might just be my stabilizers which are all from one batch.

Did you figure what the problem actually is/was? Is the plate squeezing the stabs somehow?

I just finished assembling my Gothic70, but didn't really want to start troubleshooting tonight.

I was thinking maybe it's the PCB given that they're PCB mounted stabs, but like I said I didn't really have a chance to troubleshoot so I'm just speculating. Maybe it allows mounting the stabs slightly skewed or maybe the holes for the stabilizer are slightly too far or close to what they should be.
With the older version you could tell right away that the plate was squeezing the stab wire, or that was my interpretation. I have never been able to figure out what the issue is with the newer version of the plate (rounded cutouts version). I sent the one I have with the old plate to merlin64 to be desoldered and swapped with the new (rounded cut out plate).

Various people have very kindly suggested solutions of adjusting the different layers, WS suggested that it might be the cap rubbing against the case bezel.

I've finally got all the stabilizers working on my r2 plate and r1 PCB gothic 70 after adjusting the layers, loosening the stabilizer screws (maybe this wouldn't be an issue if I had used washers?) and Super Lubing the worst stabilizer, not in that order. Loosening the screw was the last thing I did and that got it the rest of the way. Wild. Very happy with this board now.

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Re: [GB] Gothic70/50 - Alice style board with arrow keys in acrylic/POM (Extras!)
« Reply #354 on: Tue, 20 October 2020, 19:29:44 »
Hi!

I just got my Gothic70 and I just wanted to ask for like a somewhat in-depth tutorial on how to solder on RGB strips onto the back of the PCB. I'm looking throughout the back of the PCB and I can't seem to find the places to solder them in, can anyone advise me on where it is? Also, I hear the default RGB strips for this keyboard is 7, and I'm just wondering how am I able to change that. (Sorry, I'm a complete novice at this)

Also, am I able to flash the board with VIA using this hex file?: https://github.com/worldspawn00/Firmwares/blob/master/gothic70/gothic70-via-pack.zip

Thanks!

Offline worldspawn

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Re: [GB] Gothic70/50 - Alice style board with arrow keys in acrylic/POM (Extras!)
« Reply #355 on: Tue, 20 October 2020, 22:12:56 »
Hi!

I just got my Gothic70 and I just wanted to ask for like a somewhat in-depth tutorial on how to solder on RGB strips onto the back of the PCB. I'm looking throughout the back of the PCB and I can't seem to find the places to solder them in, can anyone advise me on where it is? Also, I hear the default RGB strips for this keyboard is 7, and I'm just wondering how am I able to change that. (Sorry, I'm a complete novice at this)

Also, am I able to flash the board with VIA using this hex file?: https://github.com/worldspawn00/Firmwares/blob/master/gothic70/gothic70-via-pack.zip

Thanks!

There's a 3pin header on the back, use some wire to connect it to a standard 5V WS2812B type strip like this, use kapton or electrical tape to prevent the cut ends of the strip from coming into contact with the back of the PCB.


The firmware is written for 7 LEDs, but if you want more than that, you will need to set up QMK on your personal PC and compile the firmware yourself, you need to change the config.h file, specify the number of LEDs you're using by modifying the line

Code: [Select]
#define RGBLED_NUM 7
 to whatever number of LEDs you're using and then compile.
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Re: [GB] Gothic70/50 - Alice style board with arrow keys in acrylic/POM (Extras!)
« Reply #356 on: Wed, 18 November 2020, 05:20:58 »
Will there be any plans for a second gb?

Offline worldspawn

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Re: [GB] Gothic70/50 - Alice style board with arrow keys in acrylic/POM (Extras!)
« Reply #357 on: Wed, 18 November 2020, 08:42:30 »
Will there be any plans for a second gb?

Yeah, I'll be running another round this december with some new options!  More details once prototypes arrive.
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Offline infinitecurry

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Re: [GB] Gothic70/50 - Alice style board with arrow keys in acrylic/POM (Extras!)
« Reply #358 on: Sat, 28 November 2020, 15:26:51 »
Finally getting around to building mine but lost the standoffs and screws. Do these use M3 hex standoffs?

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Re: [GB] Gothic70/50 - Alice style board with arrow keys in acrylic/POM (Extras!)
« Reply #359 on: Sat, 28 November 2020, 15:28:33 »
Finally getting around to building mine but lost the standoffs and screws. Do these use M3 hex standoffs?

Yeah, M3x8mm brass hex standoffs (don't get aluminum ones, they are a different exterior size), button head M3x10mm screws in the top, countersunk M3x5mm in the bottom.
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Re: [GB] Gothic70/50 - Alice style board with arrow keys in acrylic/POM (Extras!)
« Reply #360 on: Mon, 30 November 2020, 20:08:13 »
I recently bought a gothic from someone on mm and I was also wondering if the via file posted above would work?
 

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Re: [GB] Gothic70/50 - Alice style board with arrow keys in acrylic/POM (Extras!)
« Reply #361 on: Mon, 30 November 2020, 22:16:02 »
AFAIK the VIA files work with the board, I didn't write them though, so I can't provide any support on them if they don't work.

I recently bought a gothic from someone on mm and I was also wondering if the via file posted above would work?
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Offline dnahthna

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Re: [GB] Gothic70/50 - Alice style board with arrow keys in acrylic/POM (Extras!)
« Reply #362 on: Thu, 03 December 2020, 21:07:49 »
Hi! this is probably a dumb question, but since gothic 70 plates are out of stock, are there any other alternatives that we could use? Such as plates for the tgr alice or the maja.

Thanks!

Offline worldspawn

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Re: [GB] Gothic70/50 - Alice style board with arrow keys in acrylic/POM (Extras!)
« Reply #363 on: Fri, 04 December 2020, 08:00:18 »
Hi! this is probably a dumb question, but since gothic 70 plates are out of stock, are there any other alternatives that we could use? Such as plates for the tgr alice or the maja.

Thanks!

No, other plates won't fit.  I can cut plates to order if you need one, I've also shared the plate file here if you want to get one cut locally: https://github.com/worldspawn00/Gothic70/tree/master/Gothic70%20cut%20files
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Re: [GB] Gothic70/50 - Alice style board with arrow keys in acrylic/POM (Extras!)
« Reply #364 on: Thu, 21 January 2021, 21:19:33 »
Will there be any plans for a second gb?

Yeah, I'll be running another round this december with some new options!  More details once prototypes arrive.

I can't tell you how excited this makes me! I've been looking for a solid Alice-type with arrows (since I'm of the "Right-side B" clan).

Offline worldspawn

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Re: [GB] Gothic70/50 - Alice style board with arrow keys in acrylic/POM (Extras!)
« Reply #365 on: Fri, 22 January 2021, 00:55:53 »
Running a bit behind schedule, I just got the new prototypes in this week, more details will follow shortly  :thumb:

Will there be any plans for a second gb?

Yeah, I'll be running another round this december with some new options!  More details once prototypes arrive.

I can't tell you how excited this makes me! I've been looking for a solid Alice-type with arrows (since I'm of the "Right-side B" clan).
I can make acrylic laser cut cases/plates PM for info