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[GB] KAT Monochrome
« on: Mon, 31 August 2020, 14:35:50 »



Manners maketh man!

Vendors
The GB will be live from September 1st to October 1st (EoD local) - Current lead time is around 7 months which should put us in Q2 2021. Here is where you want to go depending on your region:


Final numbers:




۞ for Europe, MyKeyboard.eu;
۞ for UK, ProtoTypist (early morning GMT);
۞ for the States, TX Keyboards;
۞ for Canada, ApexKeyboards: Keyset | Deskmat | Salvun (9.00 am EST);
۞ for China, the rest of Asia and OCE, zFrontier.

Pricing

Quick word on kitting: Yes, there is no way around it, there are a lot of kits, but:

۞ don't let sheer number of kits discourage you, there are basically 14 different kits (40s, Alphas, Colevrak, Ergo, French, ISO, Mac, Modifiers, North, Novelties, Numpad, Ortho, South and Spacebars), if you want a better visual representation of those kits, you can head over to Geekhack; and

۞ alpha + modifiers is enough to cover any standard layout from 60% to TKL, including 65% and 75% (which costs €90 (EU) | £79 (UK) | $87 (NA) | $118 (CA) | $85 (Asia)).





AKI-S - Kits: Alpha | Icon Modifiers | FR kit

Kits

Alphas:
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Alphas







ISO



North



South



French kit



Colevrak

Modifiers:
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Modifiers




Mac


40s




Ortho




Ergo


Spacebars

Numpad:
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Numpad


Novelties:
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Novelties



J-02 - Kits: Alpha | Text Modifiers | Novelties

Deskpad



KBD19X - Kits: WoB Alphas | WoB Icon Modifiers | WoB Novelties | WoB Numpad

Salvun



Artisans

I'm currently checking with artisans and will confirm them as they come. These will NOT be exclusive to GB participants so every monochrome lover out there can get a shot at these! If you have anyone specific in mind, let me know :)

۞ Alpha
۞ Unbranded.Caps
۞ GSK
۞ Archetype
۞ BadHabbit
۞ Fraktal
۞ Latrialum
۞ Lividity
۞ TRMK


Monochrome Salvador by Alpha


Monochrome Sleepy by Unbranded.Caps


FAQ

* What colors will you be using?
Before you guys check the kits, I wanted to mention the colors I’ll be using here:
White: WS2
Black: RAL 000 15 00

Why not CR just like GMK Monochrome was? Simply because I got informed that it was impossible. I will aim for the darkest black possible (and I do think RAL 000 15 00 is quite nice).

* Why should I buy Monochrome and not Refined?

Refined is a really good set, I've said it countless times and will say it again because it's true. That said, Monochrome and Refined have differences worth noting:
۞ Different whites (WS2)
۞ Difference in kitting:
   ※ Wider compatibility in Monochrome's modifiers kit
   ※ Icon Ergo kit
   ※ Stand alone ISO UK, North, South
۞ Wider choices in Alphas
۞ Different font (which I feel is the bigger differentiating point - GMK vs KAT font)
۞ Different icons (which ties up to the resemblance (or lack thereof) to GMK)

As a lot of things in our hobby, it's all a matter of preference and whether you pick this or Refined next month, you are making a wise choice :)

* Where can I get the icons you used?
Ping me, I'll send you the updated ones used for KAT HFO, Monochrome and Iron :)




Thanks

OCM for his help with the original icons, the hiragana alphas and allowing me to run the WoB variant;
Konstantin for this help with the icons, the arabic, cyrillic, zhuyin and hangul font and for discussing kit updates with me;
FatBoyCarney for helping me and listening to me rambling all the time;
Manzel for the awesome renders; and
All the vendors that accepted to run this keyset despite the huge amount of kits.


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Iron165 - Kits: Cyrillic WoB Alphas | WoB Text Modifiers


AKI-S - Kits: Alpha | Icon Modifiers | FR kit


Conone - BoW Zhuyin Alphas | BoW Text Monochrome Modifiers | BoW ISO


Alpine65 - WoB Hiragana Alpha | WoB Icon Modifiers | WoB novelties


J-02 - Kits: Alpha | Text Modifiers | Novelties


S7-Elephant - Kits: Alpha | Icon Modifiers | Novelties


KBD19X - Kits: WoB Alphas | WoB Icon Modifiers | WoB Novelties | WoB Numpad


Bear60 - BoW Arabic Alpha | BoW Icon Modifiers


Neuron - BoW Alpha | Text Monochrome 40s | WoB Novelties


Austin - BoW Hangul Alpha | Text Monochrome Modifiers | Monochrome Numpad | WoB Novelties






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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 31 August 2020, 14:36:05 »
Numbers as of September 25th (not all vendors are updated):
« Last Edit: Sun, 27 September 2020, 06:27:27 by JSaintS »

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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 01 September 2020, 03:20:04 »
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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 01 September 2020, 03:40:48 »
Let's do this!

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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 01 September 2020, 03:46:11 »
Good luck with GB, not that it will need it  :thumb:

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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 01 September 2020, 03:49:18 »
Can't wait for this set!

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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 01 September 2020, 04:12:34 »
Quick edit because there was a problem in the ISO kits - the Monochrome and WoB kits were missing the > < R1 key, here are the new ones (price remains the same):


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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 01 September 2020, 06:25:52 »
Good luck dude! not that you need it. I'm all in for Zhuyin <333333

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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 01 September 2020, 07:53:32 »
This set must be on my Classy keyboard
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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 01 September 2020, 15:32:12 »
Is it me or are there no extra "B" key for other languages for the spacebar kit?

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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 01 September 2020, 16:53:35 »
Best of luck! This is going to be my first KAT set.  ;D

Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 01 September 2020, 21:12:57 »


Will you get better prices from the manufacturer as more people join or is the price what is listed on the original post and it won't change?

is the unit count is the number of keys?



Quite excited to see what artisans we get  :thumb:

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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #12 on: Wed, 02 September 2020, 03:51:43 »
Is it me or are there no extra "B" key for other languages for the spacebar kit?

I have to say that it is you, I see the extra B both in the BoW and WoB kits.

Will you get better prices from the manufacturer as more people join or is the price what is listed on the original post and it won't change?
These prices are final. Previously Massdrop/Drop used such system, but they gave up to because of its complexity and costs. Nowadays group buys start with a pretty high MOQ, so the quantity discount is calculated into the price from the beginning.

is the unit count is the number of keys?
Number of key surfaces, so a Backspace is 2, a Caps Lock is 1.5.

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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #13 on: Wed, 02 September 2020, 03:58:56 »
Is it me or are there no extra "B" key for other languages for the spacebar kit?

I have to say that it is you, I see the extra B both in the BoW and WoB kits.

I think it was regarding, say, a hiragana B in the spacebar kit to go with the hiragana alphas. In which case, indeed, there is no extra B key per language, I didn't want to add another 5 keys to the spacebar kit or make the alpha kits more expensive for everyone; I had in mind that people would use the blank 1u key in the spacebar kit.

Will you get better prices from the manufacturer as more people join or is the price what is listed on the original post and it won't change?
These prices are final. Previously Massdrop/Drop used such system, but they gave up to because of its complexity and costs. Nowadays group buys start with a pretty high MOQ, so the quantity discount is calculated into the price from the beginning.

Indeed, on top of that, PP changed their policy last year, iirc, and fees don't get refunded when a vendor refunds (not sure how it works with partial refunds, but still). We started with the second tier MOQ and worked to get low prices across the board for everyone :)

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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 02 September 2020, 04:27:02 »
I think it was regarding, say, a hiragana B in the spacebar kit to go with the hiragana alphas. In which case, indeed, there is no extra B key per language, I didn't want to add another 5 keys to the spacebar kit or make the alpha kits more expensive for everyone; I had in mind that people would use the blank 1u key in the spacebar kit.
Ah, I see. I forgot that your set has extensive non-Latin language support.

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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 03 September 2020, 23:09:25 »
So glad you have Colevrak in all three color schemes!
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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 04 September 2020, 17:25:35 »


Kits are more than half way to MOQ already!
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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #17 on: Thu, 10 September 2020, 19:03:01 »
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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #18 on: Sun, 13 September 2020, 04:31:16 »
definitely getting this one!

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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #19 on: Sun, 13 September 2020, 05:32:20 »
Quick update on this sunny sunday (for me at least). We are almost at MOQ, it's safe to say that all kits will be made. Deskmats and the salvun keys need a bit of love but I'm working on things to get them produce no matter what (I know the salvun key is not listed on zFrontier, they have been a little slow at updating things over there recently, I'm working on that as well)

I'll be giving away an Alpha+modifiers+deskmat bundle on my discord later today (at around 10.00 PM CEST) so feel free to join us there - Join the discord by clicking the image bellow:

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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #20 on: Sun, 13 September 2020, 15:24:00 »


Hello everyone!

I am giving away a KAT Monochrome bundle (Alpha + Modifiers + Deskmat) on discord (click on the signature below) as well as two deskmats on reddit (click here for the reddit GA).



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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #21 on: Mon, 14 September 2020, 12:56:40 »


Hello everyone!

We were at 85% and we are now close passed, 95% MOQ so once I get a final update from all vendors, MOQ should be met. In the meantime, two quick things:

1/ The Salvun keys are finally listed on zFrontier, sorry for those that waited to get them - available on the GB page

2/ The GA for the KAT Monochrome bundle (Alpha + Modifiers + Deskmat) is still live on discord and will be closed in 2 hours (click on the signature below) and same goes for the two deskmats on reddit (click here for the reddit GA).





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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #22 on: Mon, 21 September 2020, 08:25:50 »
I'm proud to say that the Lividity x Monochrome raffle is now LIVE with not only 1, not 2, but THREE awesome colorways!

Make sure you get in!



Raffle is live, what are you waiting for?!
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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #23 on: Fri, 25 September 2020, 04:11:30 »
Is this the same white as KAT Alpha or brighter?

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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #24 on: Fri, 25 September 2020, 04:49:25 »
Is this the same white as KAT Alpha or brighter?

Brighter :) This white has not been used on any current KAT keysets as far as I know :)

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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #26 on: Sat, 26 September 2020, 10:36:08 »
Any update on where the deskmats are for numbers?

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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #27 on: Sat, 26 September 2020, 10:41:44 »
Hello everyone!

I am thrilled to invite you guys to the KAT MONOCHROME x GSK raffle tomorrow:



I will post the link here, on IG and on my discord. Make sure to follow the guys over at GSK, they have a raffle every Sunday!

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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #28 on: Sun, 27 September 2020, 03:15:03 »
omg cant weait for this set, will support !



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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #29 on: Mon, 28 September 2020, 11:12:40 »
Just found out about this a couple days ago, and seems like something I'm interested in and will grab, but hopefully this isn't too late to point out (and I see that your prior sets also do this, so maybe it's just stylistic? Hope I'm not being out of line.): your icon for the "Option" key is upside down. The small short/separated line should be on top, with the longer continuous/angled line going from top to bottom, as seen here.

If this can be changed/corrected this late in the process, that would be cool. Not a deal-breaker for me, but just something I thought I would mention, because I didn't see it brought up previously.

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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #30 on: Mon, 28 September 2020, 11:15:47 »
Just found out about this a couple days ago, and seems like something I'm interested in and will grab, but hopefully this isn't too late to point out (and I see that your prior sets also do this, so maybe it's just stylistic? Hope I'm not being out of line.): your icon for the "Option" key is upside down. The small short/separated line should be on top, with the longer continuous/angled line going from top to bottom, as seen here.

If this can be changed/corrected this late in the process, that would be cool. Not a deal-breaker for me, but just something I thought I would mention, because I didn't see it brought up previously.

Welcome here and thank you for reaching out about this :) This has been done on purpose as it's meant to be the Alt key for windows, I wanted someting a little different than the Mac version yet similar enough not to shock Apple users :)

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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #31 on: Mon, 28 September 2020, 11:43:41 »
Just found out about this a couple days ago, and seems like something I'm interested in and will grab, but hopefully this isn't too late to point out (and I see that your prior sets also do this, so maybe it's just stylistic? Hope I'm not being out of line.): your icon for the "Option" key is upside down. The small short/separated line should be on top, with the longer continuous/angled line going from top to bottom, as seen here.

If this can be changed/corrected this late in the process, that would be cool. Not a deal-breaker for me, but just something I thought I would mention, because I didn't see it brought up previously.

Welcome here and thank you for reaching out about this :) This has been done on purpose as it's meant to be the Alt key for windows, I wanted someting a little different than the Mac version yet similar enough not to shock Apple users :)

Gotcha, works for me, just wanted to make sure that it wasn't in error. Looking forward to these!

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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #32 on: Mon, 28 September 2020, 16:18:42 »

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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #33 on: Mon, 28 September 2020, 18:29:11 »
Anyone managed to join the GB via zFrontier? Tried to but tgere’s a problem with their payment system (I think), couldn’t complete the purchase. Emailed them last week but no reply till today.

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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #34 on: Tue, 29 September 2020, 01:11:40 »
Anyone managed to join the GB via zFrontier? Tried to but tgere’s a problem with their payment system (I think), couldn’t complete the purchase. Emailed them last week but no reply till today.

Do you have any error message you could share? The told me that the payment issue should be fixed already so there should technically not be anything preventing you from completing your purchase :-)

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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #35 on: Tue, 29 September 2020, 01:24:26 »
Anyone managed to join the GB via zFrontier? Tried to but tgere’s a problem with their payment system (I think), couldn’t complete the purchase. Emailed them last week but no reply till today.

Do you have any error message you could share? The told me that the payment issue should be fixed already so there should technically not be anything preventing you from completing your purchase :-)

The error message shown was "There was an error adding this card".. this is the same for different credit cards. Paypal and ApplePay don't work either.
I did make purchases before and after using the above various payment modes with no issues. But its just zFrontier that I am not able to process the payment.

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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #36 on: Tue, 29 September 2020, 01:33:29 »
Ah ok... tried again just and paypal is working. Woohoo... I've never been so determined to part with money.. :-[

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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome - Faktal x Monochrome Raffle Live!
« Reply #37 on: Tue, 29 September 2020, 16:22:31 »
Hello everyone!

The Fraktal x Monochrome raffle is now live!



>> Raffle Form <<

Don't miss out!

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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #38 on: Wed, 30 September 2020, 10:18:05 »
Hello everyone!

Quick update on the GB closing date:

NA: September 30th
CA, EU, UK: October 1st
Asia/OCE/rest of the world if you missed the cut for the other dates: October 2nd

Make sure to get your orders in before it's too late!
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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #39 on: Wed, 30 September 2020, 12:01:39 »
Hello everyone!

Quick update on the GB closing date:

NA: October 30th
CA, EU, UK: October 1st
Asia/OCE/rest of the world if you missed the cut for the other dates: October 2nd

Make sure to get your orders in before it's too late!
for NA you mean September 30th right?

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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #40 on: Wed, 30 September 2020, 12:03:35 »
Hello everyone!

Quick update on the GB closing date:

NA: October 30th
CA, EU, UK: October 1st
Asia/OCE/rest of the world if you missed the cut for the other dates: October 2nd

Make sure to get your orders in before it's too late!
for NA you mean September 30th right?

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Aouch, yup my bad, don't think Popkorn wants to run it for another 30 days haha; don't for pointing that out.

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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #41 on: Wed, 30 September 2020, 13:05:38 »

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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #42 on: Wed, 30 September 2020, 16:14:48 »
I hope the Novelties kit will look good with KAT Refind, because that is what I'm aiming for.

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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #43 on: Wed, 30 September 2020, 21:46:06 »
Will these ever run again?

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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #44 on: Thu, 01 October 2020, 01:05:07 »
Will these ever run again?

Probably not for a while given the current lead time is around 7-8 months and then vendors need to ship to everyone; this will probably not run again for another year I'd say, and most likely not in the form it is right now :)

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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #45 on: Thu, 01 October 2020, 04:23:44 »
Will these ever run again?

It's literally still open right now.

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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #46 on: Tue, 06 October 2020, 13:27:17 »
Final order numbers

With extras = 201.3K units (373% of 54K MOQ)


Without extras =154.6K units (286% of 54K MOQ)
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[GB] KAT Monochrome - Archetype sale tomorrow!
« Reply #47 on: Wed, 28 October 2020, 14:41:38 »
Hello everyone!

I hope you are all doing well in these difficult times! I'm glad to say that the Archetype x Monochrome collab will happen tomorrow:




Get ready!!!

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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #48 on: Sat, 28 November 2020, 20:51:35 »
Is there a possibility I can pick up a BoW (and/or WoB) Icon/Text Ortho kit? I forgot to pick one up.
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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #49 on: Sun, 29 November 2020, 09:51:30 »
Is there a possibility I can pick up a BoW (and/or WoB) Icon/Text Ortho kit? I forgot to pick one up.

I'm in the same situation. BoW Icon Ortho. Hoping to avoid aftermarket flipper-fest. >_<

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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #50 on: Sun, 29 November 2020, 16:38:17 »
Is there a possibility I can pick up a BoW (and/or WoB) Icon/Text Ortho kit? I forgot to pick one up.

I'm in the same situation. BoW Icon Ortho. Hoping to avoid aftermarket flipper-fest. >_<

Unfortunately I didn't pick one up myself so I can't help you guys out here :( 16 extras Ortho kits were picked up by vendors, so there will be extras, hopefully you can get in on those :)



Got samples in on Friday and finally had some time to take a picture or two:



Comparative picture next to unused black keys from my own GMK Monochrome set:



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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #51 on: Sun, 29 November 2020, 23:51:11 »
That's some good dark black right there. I like it!

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Re: [GB] KAT Monochrome
« Reply #52 on: Tue, 08 December 2020, 05:28:43 »
Wow those samples look great.  :thumb: Cannot wait to get them on my board!