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Offline Bregoli

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[IC] Swiss | A Cheese Keyboard!
« on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 10:30:47 »



Introducing Swiss:
a HHKB keyboard that looks like...  Cheese?





This Picture, while not the best, is the most accurate one in terms of color. Of course it all depends on lighting. The ones above are accurate as well.


Proto is almost perfect, there are some things I'm considering like adding standoffs to the DB itself instead of the bottom piece. This would make it cheaper to manufacture. Also there are some minor problems with the files which I'll polish before the gb. I'll build it up as soon as I get the pcb and get a Typing test out!

The original custom colored POM Supplier backed out and all other POM suppliers contacted either had unreachable MOQs (I would need to sell 500 POM Boards or more) or were too busy and had lead times which would delay it to 2022. Due to these unforeseen circumstances I sadly have to announce the POM board will be CANCELLED. The aluminium version is still going smoothly and will be made, although no confirmed timeline.

Layout and PCB:





Thank you to Melinda Birkenstock for the PCB!
PCB will be Hotswap and QMK Compatible


IC Form and discord:
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Specifications:
  • Mount: Top Mount
  • Angle: 6 Degrees
  • Material: Alu and TBD
  • Plate Material: Pom and Brass (check IC Form)
  • Weight: Brass
  • Foam for between the case and bottom to reduce hollowness!
  • Universal/ aio3 Daughter board.
  • Colors: Yellow
  • Price: ~300 Euros

FAQ:
  • Is this a joke? No!
  • GB spots: TBD
  • Why forced HHKB? Everything else looks bad! Also I need the blockers for the holes.
  • Will there be any other colors? No.

Vendors:

Candy Keys & Daily clack for now. US still searching.


Signature:
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Thanks:


  • Candykeys for being on board since day 1!
  • FreshFromTheGrave for the Idea!
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  • Updated Info!
  • For certain reasons, I will only be able to offer white POM plates.
« Last Edit: Wed, 17 February 2021, 08:43:49 by Bregoli »

Offline ergusto

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 10:36:13 »
IC form didn't take email? Is that intentional?

Offline scrps

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 10:38:22 »
should've been named cheeseboard smh :(

Offline Bregoli

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 10:39:43 »
IC form didn't take email? Is that intentional?

I don't see a need for it! You can stay up to date on my discord or on this IC :D

Offline jAngeles

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 10:41:51 »
cheesy

Offline Mattelec

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 10:44:41 »
What a PITA to machine in both materials, better 3D print it

Offline halocantkb

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 10:51:20 »
cheesy
dangerously cheesy

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Offline yoot

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 10:52:32 »
this seems like it will be very expensive and hard to qc....

Offline deepmail

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 10:55:27 »
Could you...perhaps offer a grey color? I love the cheese, but a moon keyboard might also be cool. Either way I might have to cop.

Offline Bregoli

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 10:56:26 »
this seems like it will be very expensive and hard to qc....

Nothing confirmed price wise but less expensive than everyone thinks!

Offline huey

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 11:01:43 »

Offline Janoma

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 11:02:25 »
this seems like it will be very expensive and hard to qc....

agree with this, I mean its basically plastic with holes in it, so not very durable either.
Seems like a cool concept just really hard to make a reality.

Offline Bregoli

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 11:04:58 »
this seems like it will be very expensive and hard to qc....

agree with this, I mean its basically plastic with holes in it, so not very durable either.
Seems like a cool concept just really hard to make a reality.

Thats why theres also a aluminium Version. For the people who don't want a plastic board!

Offline CodeMayhem

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 11:05:08 »
This looks really Gouda, this might eat up some of my cheddar.

Sorry that sentence made you Feta-up.

Offline FreshFromTheGrave

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 11:13:24 »
I'm very proud. I love the mouse weight too! Looks like a slice of cheddar.

Offline Bregoli

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #15 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 11:16:58 »
I'm very proud. I love the mouse weight too! Looks like a slice of cheddar.

haha thanks for the idea!

Offline G9Kira

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #16 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 11:23:33 »
It this could use a swiss cheese pcb like the soldered dz60t that would be amazing, and the plate should have support for more layouts so it too looks like swiss cheese.

Offline Bregoli

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #17 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 11:43:11 »
It this could use a swiss cheese pcb like the soldered dz60t that would be amazing, and the plate should have support for more layouts so it too looks like swiss cheese.

Was the original idea, dz60 compat. Hand to abandon it for several reasons :(

Offline nathanchere

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #18 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 11:57:24 »
Going to be a pain to keep clean but don't care, want anyway

Offline tobold

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #19 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 12:00:17 »
so cool. ISO maybe? 🤞

Offline Oblotzky

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #20 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 12:02:55 »
May I propose a collaboration?

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=88629.0

Offline IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #21 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 12:07:24 »
Dammit Oblotzky I loved that colorway
Your April fools kits are top 10 sets anyways

Offline ben56k

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #22 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 12:07:39 »
that collab. with a 75% iso I'm in!

Offline Bregoli

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #23 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 12:15:06 »
so cool. ISO maybe? 🤞

Iso hhkb🤨

Offline ergusto

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #24 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 12:43:35 »
IC form didn't take email? Is that intentional?

I don't see a need for it! You can stay up to date on my discord or on this IC :D

I somewhat agree but you may miss out on people who just want to be reminded when it's time for group buy.

Big fan of the board though; looks awesome.

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #25 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 13:00:41 »
Very cool :cool:
Going to watch this one.

Hope you will be able to keep updates here consistantly and not just in the Discord 😌🤝


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Offline Bregoli

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #26 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 13:10:25 »
Very cool :cool:
Going to watch this one.

Hope you will be able to keep updates here consistantly and not just in the Discord 😌🤝

Will do of course! Discord is just so I don't have to use email :D

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #27 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 13:35:44 »
Cheesehead?  :D

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #28 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 21:50:37 »
What is going on and why didn't this happen sooner

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #29 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 21:59:42 »
This is obligatory for me. My cat is named Cheese... I must have it.

Offline SL1ST

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #30 on: Tue, 08 September 2020, 23:30:25 »
Damn this beaut's gonna need a lot of setups and small tools, good luck on the pricing.

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #31 on: Wed, 09 September 2020, 00:24:46 »
Love it, I'd cop it depending on pricing!

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #32 on: Wed, 09 September 2020, 00:48:29 »
 It's a novel idea, but a proto should be already done to prove that your concept can be made.
« Last Edit: Wed, 09 September 2020, 01:39:45 by Baionlenja »

Offline Bregoli

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #33 on: Wed, 09 September 2020, 01:56:51 »
It's a novel idea, but a proto should be already done to prove that your concept can be made.

It can be made, I've confirmed that. I'm ordering protos in the coming two weeks hopefully!

Offline pupper125

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #34 on: Wed, 09 September 2020, 01:58:38 »
I'm so glad that this became an actual concept, was super fun to watch this progress.

Offline eribabu

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #35 on: Wed, 09 September 2020, 02:03:33 »
should've been named cheeseboard smh :(

100% this comment lol

Offline SxM Designs

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #36 on: Wed, 09 September 2020, 03:36:03 »
I wonder if this is only HHKB layout. I would jump on this but definitely I am not a HHKB person :(

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #37 on: Wed, 09 September 2020, 03:51:05 »
I wonder if this is only HHKB layout. I would jump on this but definitely I am not a HHKB person :(

The blockers are staying due to the space for the holes. as for layout (split backspace and right shift) I'm getting info and if enough people are interested, ill add it.

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #38 on: Wed, 09 September 2020, 03:52:44 »
Wouldnt a WKL blocker also do the same?
I need my pinky to sit on a key!!

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #39 on: Wed, 09 September 2020, 04:04:15 »
Wouldnt a WKL blocker also do the same?
I need my pinky to sit on a key!!

Too small and looks out of place for me.

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #40 on: Wed, 09 September 2020, 05:31:20 »
I'd be cautious about eYelllow matching the POM/actually coming out yellow. There seems to be some difficulties with that color.


Offline Bregoli

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #42 on: Wed, 09 September 2020, 11:00:11 »
so cool. ISO maybe? 🤞

Iso hhkb🤨

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Ok, have to agree, looks good. However im staying with the fixed layout rn. Majority on ic are fine with it for now :D

Offline EMC Labs

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #43 on: Thu, 10 September 2020, 20:24:18 »
info on the pcb? e.g firmware, usb etc

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #44 on: Thu, 10 September 2020, 23:33:21 »
i need this

Offline Bregoli

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #45 on: Fri, 11 September 2020, 00:58:22 »
info on the pcb? e.g firmware, usb etc

PCB is still in the works because I was wondering whether to go fixed layout and hot swap or multiple layouts and solder.
I can confirm it'll be QMK Compatible and will use the aio3 DB so USB-C!

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #46 on: Fri, 11 September 2020, 04:05:24 »
This certainly is something else – I really like it.
Hope this comes to fruition.
Good luck with the interest check.

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #47 on: Fri, 11 September 2020, 20:21:30 »
if this ends up haveing full backspace i will definately buy one if given the chance, this looks so cool. and +1 for having a moon grey version.

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #48 on: Fri, 11 September 2020, 21:11:12 »
Definitely market this in Wisconsin, it's a Cheese Board!!!! <3

Offline Bregoli

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #49 on: Sat, 12 September 2020, 05:49:01 »
if this ends up haveing full backspace i will definately buy one if given the chance, this looks so cool. and +1 for having a moon grey version.

Decided to do Forced HHKB Hotswap PCB so no full backspace sadly.

Offline Freakenstein

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #50 on: Sat, 12 September 2020, 11:42:40 »
take my money ASAP

Offline Freakenstein

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #51 on: Sat, 12 September 2020, 11:51:38 »
And dont forget the guys in Asia when GB

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #52 on: Sat, 12 September 2020, 23:15:16 »
Take my money. hope it can happen soon!

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #53 on: Sat, 12 September 2020, 23:22:47 »
Any considerations for split space bar? Would love to see it as an option.  :thumb:

Offline cabeggar

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #54 on: Sun, 13 September 2020, 02:08:46 »
This is ridiculously cute. Not sure whether the keyboard would look better with thinner bezel though.

Offline Bregoli

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #55 on: Sun, 13 September 2020, 03:50:02 »
Any considerations for split space bar? Would love to see it as an option.  :thumb:

No, Fixed layout.

Offline Mango0o0

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #56 on: Thu, 17 September 2020, 10:34:39 »
It's soooo impressive. One of the reasons that I like the keyboard is such this delicate and lovely thing.

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #57 on: Thu, 17 September 2020, 12:25:54 »
this looks so cool, filled the ic and hope the price is as good as the design!

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A POM (and Aluminium) keyboard that looks like Cheese
« Reply #58 on: Fri, 18 September 2020, 02:20:22 »
Hello,
just wanted to update on the pricing as some people are believing this will cost over 500 Euros for some reason.

I'm aiming for 300 euros for the most expensive option but that price is subject to change (it shouldn't change much).

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Some more news!
For certain reasons, I will only be able to offer white POM plates. The Case will still be yellow though!

Offline ogp3

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I love this weight design - defo interested  :)

Offline Cloods

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can we get a pink plate option so i can have ham and cheese board

Offline ogp3

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can we get a pink plate option so i can have ham and cheese board
This is big brain  :D but also a pink weight would look so cool, though maybe hard to do

Offline Dr_D

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I don't think I'd be interested in actually buying this, but I really like the design and originality

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Any considerations for split space bar? Would love to see it as an option.  :thumb:

No, Fixed layout.

Dang, Swiss-cheese themed keyboard without a  Swiss-cheese PCB.

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Added PCB info! Hotswap QMK Compatible and designed by Melinda Birkenstock!

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Re: [IC] Swiss | Proto Ordered!
« Reply #66 on: Thu, 15 October 2020, 05:01:12 »
ALU Proto ordered, Pom prototype will be ordered if I like the ALU one.
More accurate color render:

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Re: [IC] Swiss | Proto Ordered!
« Reply #67 on: Thu, 15 October 2020, 05:06:46 »
Okay i have to do this, this is not a swiss cheese. Swiss typical cheese is more « Gruyere ». This is Emmental from France I feel better sorry.


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Re: [IC] Swiss | Proto Ordered!
« Reply #68 on: Thu, 15 October 2020, 05:13:57 »
Okay i have to do this, this is not a swiss cheese. Swiss typical cheese is more « Gruyere ». This is Emmental from France I feel better sorry.



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Emmental is in Switzerland 🤔

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Re: [IC] Swiss | Proto Ordered!
« Reply #69 on: Thu, 15 October 2020, 05:40:13 »
**** you are right ! But nobody eat this one here But Gruyere is more famous!

I vote for a rename !


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Re: [IC] Swiss | Proto Ordered!
« Reply #70 on: Sun, 01 November 2020, 19:15:30 »
i made an account just to tell you that i love this ridiculous keeb and all its holes

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Re: [IC] Swiss | Early Proto Photos Inside!
« Reply #71 on: Wed, 04 November 2020, 07:10:22 »
Early Proto Photos:







These pieces are off to e-coating and after will be shipped to me. Looking great so far and I can't wait to see it in my hands.

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Re: [IC] Swiss | Early Proto Photos Inside!
« Reply #72 on: Wed, 04 November 2020, 07:34:13 »
That looks ridiculous...



...ly awesome! I can't believe how clean the holes turned out.

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Re: [IC] Swiss | Early Proto Photos Inside!
« Reply #73 on: Wed, 04 November 2020, 07:43:57 »
I can't believe this is actually happening and it makes me so happy <3



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Re: [IC] Swiss | Early Proto Photos Inside!
« Reply #76 on: Fri, 06 November 2020, 05:22:29 »

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Re: [IC] Swiss | Early Proto Photos Inside!
« Reply #77 on: Fri, 06 November 2020, 09:53:23 »
Excited to see the prototype anodized! Love this board, love cheese!

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Re: [IC] Swiss | Colored Proto Photos Inside!!!
« Reply #78 on: Fri, 04 December 2020, 04:00:38 »
PROTOS HAVE BEEN COLORED

And it's looking fantastic!






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Re: [IC] Swiss | Colored Proto Photos Inside!!!
« Reply #79 on: Fri, 04 December 2020, 04:52:01 »
Looks good enough to eat

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Re: [IC] Swiss | Colored Proto Photos Inside!!!
« Reply #80 on: Fri, 04 December 2020, 19:13:14 »
Definitely getting more of a spongebob vibe

Offline horrorshow93

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Re: [IC] Swiss | Colored Proto Photos Inside!!!
« Reply #81 on: Sat, 05 December 2020, 07:39:33 »
Ahhh, now that the prototype is colored I feel good about it again. Is this the final color?

This board may be good therapy for trypophobia. When I saw the bare proto on my phone I was icked out. Now it is amusing again ^-^

Is it sharp at all where the holes meet the edges? I would hurt myself with this.


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Re: [IC] Swiss | Colored Proto Photos Inside!!!
« Reply #82 on: Sat, 05 December 2020, 15:36:54 »
use dem cheese keycaps!

Offline Bregoli

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Re: [IC] Swiss | Colored Proto Photos Inside!!!
« Reply #83 on: Sun, 06 December 2020, 05:17:31 »
Ahhh, now that the prototype is colored I feel good about it again. Is this the final color?

This board may be good therapy for trypophobia. When I saw the bare proto on my phone I was icked out. Now it is amusing again ^-^

Is it sharp at all where the holes meet the edges? I would hurt myself with this.

No it's not the final color, I like the color and it might be, but it's not confirmed.

All the holes have a small bevel so they will not be extremely sharp, however it might not be verry comfortable on the pointy parts!

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Re: [IC] Swiss | Colored Proto Photos Inside!!!
« Reply #84 on: Sun, 06 December 2020, 08:23:01 »
i still really want this.  is the yellow very vibrant in person? i don't think my screen is very colour accurate haha

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Re: [IC] Swiss | Colored Proto Photos Inside!!!
« Reply #85 on: Sun, 06 December 2020, 17:50:16 »
Wonder what a blue cheese version would look like

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Re: [IC] Swiss | Colored Proto Photos Inside!!!
« Reply #86 on: Mon, 07 December 2020, 00:16:31 »
sound is all im worried about for this, but if you can pull it off itll be great

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Re: [IC] Swiss | Colored Proto Photos Inside!!!
« Reply #87 on: Mon, 07 December 2020, 10:24:58 »
i still really want this.  is the yellow very vibrant in person? i don't think my screen is very colour accurate haha

It's not a saturated as my renders, however it is a bit vibrant I guess? I recommend looking at it on different screens so you can get an idea!  ;D

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Re: [IC] Swiss | Colored Proto Photos Inside!!!
« Reply #88 on: Wed, 09 December 2020, 02:54:57 »
Missed opportunity to call it the Camemboard.
Gouda job, quite a brielliant idea. It's a grate concept.

Seriously though, I remember seeing this initial concept/render as a joke by you, months ago on discord and I'm super happy to see protos. The holes look clean.

I don't love or hate the yellow of the proto, but I do get why the other comment said Spongebob vibes.
Maybe photos in different lighting (+/- with a block of cheese in them too haha) might change my mind, but I was expecting/wishing for a different tone of yellow.
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Re: [IC] Swiss | Colored Proto Photos Inside!!!
« Reply #89 on: Wed, 09 December 2020, 05:11:21 »
Looks great, but would prefer a bit more saturated 'cartoony' yellow like the earlier renders. Still interested either way!

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Re: [IC] Swiss | Colored Proto Photos Inside!!!
« Reply #90 on: Thu, 10 December 2020, 04:41:47 »
Missed opportunity to call it the Camemboard.
Gouda job, quite a brielliant idea. It's a grate concept.

Seriously though, I remember seeing this initial concept/render as a joke by you, months ago on discord and I'm super happy to see protos. The holes look clean.

I don't love or hate the yellow of the proto, but I do get why the other comment said Spongebob vibes.
Maybe photos in different lighting (+/- with a block of cheese in them too haha) might change my mind, but I was expecting/wishing for a different tone of yellow.

Looks great, but would prefer a bit more saturated 'cartoony' yellow like the earlier renders. Still interested either way!

I am looking at different color options aswell, although I like the one it is right now! I will post pictures when I have it in my hands!

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« Reply #91 on: Thu, 10 December 2020, 06:34:05 »
Although I preferred the rendered look more at first, the prototype colour is growing on me and definitely has a more legit 'Swiss cheese' look to it.

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Re: [IC] Swiss | Colored Proto Photos Inside!!!
« Reply #92 on: Thu, 10 December 2020, 17:50:52 »
Although I preferred the rendered look more at first, the prototype colour is growing on me and definitely has a more legit 'Swiss cheese' look to it.
Yeah the renders are a bit more eye-catching but also not accurate to 'swiss cheese'. They're more the colour of cheddar and maasdam.
The prototype yellow being less saturated is closer to Swiss cheese, but from the photos, it's still a bit off and I think there's room for it to be even nicer and more accurate to Swiss cheese.

It's not the end of the world whichever route Bregoli takes, but I'd suggest taking it to the next level; renaming the project the Cheeseboard, and offering 2 or 3 colour variants; because cheese can be almost white, pale yellow and saturated yellow in colours.
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Re: [IC] Swiss | Colored Proto Photos Inside!!!
« Reply #93 on: Fri, 11 December 2020, 11:17:30 »
Now this is something

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« Reply #94 on: Sat, 12 December 2020, 10:47:48 »
great! just got some cheese keycaps ^-^

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Re: [IC] Swiss | Colored Proto Photos Inside!!!
« Reply #96 on: Sun, 13 December 2020, 23:43:07 »
Someone on Reddit made matching keycaps for this
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/kcc9ef/cheese_flavored_keys_i_just_designed_resin_printed/
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« Reply #97 on: Sun, 13 December 2020, 23:52:58 »
A mouse mouse would also complement this setup well

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Re: [IC] Swiss | Colored Proto Photos Inside!!!
« Reply #98 on: Mon, 14 December 2020, 23:30:09 »

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Re: [IC] Swiss | Colored Proto Photos Inside!!!
« Reply #99 on: Fri, 18 December 2020, 02:39:20 »
offering 2 or 3 colour variants; because cheese can be almost white, pale yellow and saturated yellow in colours.
Sadly not very possible when going with custom colors, it will either raise the price or raise the moq for said colors

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Re: [IC] Swiss | Colored Proto Photos Inside!!!
« Reply #100 on: Fri, 18 December 2020, 03:32:11 »
This is hot!

Hmm, hot, melty cheese...

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Re: [IC] Swiss | Colored Proto Photos Inside!!!
« Reply #101 on: Fri, 18 December 2020, 16:43:37 »
I will say that I think the design and look you're going for would lend itself much better to a softer, less sharp POM. Aluminum might look a bit too sharp and not really "cheesy" and the coloring, whether it's anno, cerakote, etc., rather than just using a yellow POM is gonna look a bit off.

Also in the google form, you might want to change the options to allow multiple selections or a ranked list (e.g I want a stepped caps option + a regular shift and backspace, I like a POM plate but a PC plate would also be nice if there's enough interest, etc.)

That being said, this is also both hilarious and creative and I really fw it, looking forward to seeing a POM proto :thumb:

Although I preferred the rendered look more at first, the prototype colour is growing on me and definitely has a more legit 'Swiss cheese' look to it.
Yeah the renders are a bit more eye-catching but also not accurate to 'swiss cheese'. They're more the colour of cheddar and maasdam.
The prototype yellow being less saturated is closer to Swiss cheese, but from the photos, it's still a bit off and I think there's room for it to be even nicer and more accurate to Swiss cheese.

It's not the end of the world whichever route Bregoli takes, but I'd suggest taking it to the next level; renaming the project the Cheeseboard, and offering 2 or 3 colour variants; because cheese can be almost white, pale yellow and saturated yellow in colours.

Yeah I would say for this, the best route is to ditch realism and go for a more cartoon-y look, which would include that more bright yellow/orange color of the renders
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Re: [IC] Swiss | Colored Proto Photos Inside!!!
« Reply #102 on: Sat, 19 December 2020, 04:17:47 »
Also in the google form, you might want to change the options to allow multiple selections or a ranked list (e.g I want a stepped caps option + a regular shift and backspace, I like a POM plate but a PC plate would also be nice if there's enough interest, etc.)

Sorry, This should be removed from the form all together! The pcb is done and likely wont get any more changes unless theres a huge amount of backlash! It'll be hotswap for newer users and since another layout really isn't needed in my eyes!

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Re: [IC] Swiss | Proto Arrived! Pictures!
« Reply #103 on: Thu, 14 January 2021, 10:01:17 »
Proto arrived today!

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« Reply #104 on: Thu, 14 January 2021, 11:34:11 »
Proto arrived today!
Pics or it didn't happen :P

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Re: [IC] Swiss | Proto Arrived! Pictures!
« Reply #105 on: Thu, 14 January 2021, 14:15:19 »
Proto arrived today!
Pics or it didn't happen :P



My pics aren't the best, they don't look green irl at all. That's just my camera.
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Re: [IC] Swiss | Proto Arrived! Pictures!
« Reply #106 on: Thu, 14 January 2021, 15:21:50 »
What a ****ing nightmare to keep clean.  I love it.

Now to put GMK Star on it. 
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Re: [IC] Swiss | Proto Arrived! Pictures!
« Reply #107 on: Thu, 14 January 2021, 16:39:40 »
Yeah, gonna get me some cheese!

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A Cheese Keyboard!
« Reply #108 on: Wed, 20 January 2021, 06:55:01 »
Bad News:
The reason POM hasn't been the topic as of late is due to original custom colored POM Supplier backing out and all other POM suppliers contacted either had unreachable MOQs (I would need to sell 500 POM Boards or more) or were too busy and had lead times which would delay it to 2021. Due to these unforeseen circumstances I sadly have to announce the POM board will be CANCELLED. The aluminium version is still going smoothly and will be made, although no confirmed timeline. I am exploring other options, one being yellow dyed poly carbonate. I will create some renders to show everyone soon.

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A Cheese Keyboard!
« Reply #109 on: Wed, 20 January 2021, 07:14:44 »
all about the cheese

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A Cheese Keyboard!
« Reply #110 on: Thu, 21 January 2021, 03:46:28 »
Bad News:
The reason POM hasn't been the topic as of late is due to original custom colored POM Supplier backing out and all other POM suppliers contacted either had unreachable MOQs (I would need to sell 500 POM Boards or more) or were too busy and had lead times which would delay it to 2021. Due to these unforeseen circumstances I sadly have to announce the POM board will be CANCELLED. The aluminium version is still going smoothly and will be made, although no confirmed timeline. I am exploring other options, one being yellow dyed poly carbonate. I will create some renders to show everyone soon.
3D printing, not sure if this was mentioned. RIP Cheese. Do you plane to make a cheese-wheel macro pad to accommodate this?

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A Cheese Keyboard!
« Reply #111 on: Sun, 24 January 2021, 07:07:44 »
Bad News:
The reason POM hasn't been the topic as of late is due to original custom colored POM Supplier backing out and all other POM suppliers contacted either had unreachable MOQs (I would need to sell 500 POM Boards or more) or were too busy and had lead times which would delay it to 2021. Due to these unforeseen circumstances I sadly have to announce the POM board will be CANCELLED. The aluminium version is still going smoothly and will be made, although no confirmed timeline. I am exploring other options, one being yellow dyed poly carbonate. I will create some renders to show everyone soon.
3D printing, not sure if this was mentioned. RIP Cheese. Do you plane to make a cheese-wheel macro pad to accommodate this?

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Haha Good idea!

3dp is always an option and I've thought about but will not be available during this GB  :(

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A Cheese Keyboard!
« Reply #112 on: Mon, 25 January 2021, 08:47:10 »
I need to see this with GMK Bread


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Re: [IC] Swiss | A Cheese Keyboard!
« Reply #113 on: Fri, 29 January 2021, 19:11:48 »
This looks perfect for GMK Star.

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A Cheese Keyboard!
« Reply #114 on: Sun, 31 January 2021, 13:03:35 »
While POM had its appeal (and was my preference over aluminium) I think a metal board makes more sense in terms of durability for a design like this. Still excited to see this make it to GB stage

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« Reply #115 on: Wed, 03 February 2021, 06:33:39 »
Bad News:
The reason POM hasn't been the topic as of late is due to original custom colored POM Supplier backing out and all other POM suppliers contacted either had unreachable MOQs (I would need to sell 500 POM Boards or more) or were too busy and had lead times which would delay it to 2021. Due to these unforeseen circumstances I sadly have to announce the POM board will be CANCELLED. The aluminium version is still going smoothly and will be made, although no confirmed timeline. I am exploring other options, one being yellow dyed poly carbonate. I will create some renders to show everyone soon.

Will the aluminium version look like also the render - like a piece of Swiss cheese? Or is it a smooth case?
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Re: [IC] Swiss | A Cheese Keyboard!
« Reply #116 on: Wed, 03 February 2021, 06:38:01 »
Will the aluminium version look like also the render - like a piece of Swiss cheese? Or is it a smooth case?
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Re: [IC] Swiss | A Cheese Keyboard!
« Reply #117 on: Wed, 03 February 2021, 07:52:21 »
i find it rather ironic that a case called swiss and being a slice of cheese does not support the ISO layout used in switzerland and france... or pretty much anywhere in the world... (and to some of the American that forgot, only the US uses the ANSI layout pretty much... and no switzerland is not part of the US)
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Re: [IC] Swiss | A Cheese Keyboard!
« Reply #118 on: Thu, 04 February 2021, 03:12:35 »
i find it rather ironic that a case called swiss and being a slice of cheese does not support the ISO layout used in switzerland and france... or pretty much anywhere in the world... (and to some of the American that forgot, only the US uses the ANSI layout pretty much... and no switzerland is not part of the US)

It's an hhkb layout, ISO is possible but looks weird, and makes the plate weird. If enough people want ISO, which isn't many currently, I might look into making an ISO version. This would mean 2 different plates and either 2 hotswap pcbs, or 1 non hotswap pcb complicating things.

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A Cheese Keyboard!
« Reply #119 on: Thu, 04 February 2021, 06:41:37 »
Since the usual argument about not wanting too many layouts supported on non-hotswap PCBs is not wanting a "Swiss cheese" board, I think it's almost an obligation to support as many layouts as possible :P

(that's just a sneaky way of trying to get split spacebar support included :D)

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A Cheese Keyboard!
« Reply #120 on: Tue, 09 February 2021, 14:35:31 »
Will this be in a group buy phase or will these be mass produce by you? Either way I want, I need it and I will have it!

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« Reply #121 on: Wed, 10 February 2021, 01:37:57 »
Will this be in a group buy phase or will these be mass produce by you? Either way I want, I need it and I will have it!

GB format, I don't know yet how many units will be available.

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A Cheese Keyboard!
« Reply #122 on: Thu, 11 February 2021, 16:53:16 »
When do you estimate that these will be heading into GB? Id just like to know so I can be first in line for this magnificently designed case? Also do you have an estimated price point that you are trying to hit?

Edit: Also what materials do you play to make this out of? Are you sticking with just aluminum or are you going to be offering a plastic/acrylic version for the community?
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« Reply #123 on: Thu, 11 February 2021, 18:46:05 »
Very curious to see which NA vendor steps up for this revolutionary board.
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« Reply #124 on: Sun, 14 February 2021, 15:44:42 »
welp, i’m impressed

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A Cheese Keyboard!
« Reply #125 on: Sun, 14 February 2021, 16:36:42 »
Bad News:
The reason POM hasn't been the topic as of late is due to original custom colored POM Supplier backing out and all other POM suppliers contacted either had unreachable MOQs (I would need to sell 500 POM Boards or more) or were too busy and had lead times which would delay it to 2021. Due to these unforeseen circumstances I sadly have to announce the POM board will be CANCELLED. The aluminium version is still going smoothly and will be made, although no confirmed timeline. I am exploring other options, one being yellow dyed poly carbonate. I will create some renders to show everyone soon.
Ah damn that's a shame. I'd be interested in a board made out of POM, but yellow dyed polycarb might lend to an interesting look.
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Re: [IC] Swiss | A Cheese Keyboard!
« Reply #126 on: Tue, 16 February 2021, 04:24:54 »
maybe have a moon-grey option so it can look like the moon. its cheese too right?

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A Cheese Keyboard!
« Reply #127 on: Wed, 17 February 2021, 08:43:00 »
When do you estimate that these will be heading into GB? Id just like to know so I can be first in line for this magnificently designed case? Also do you have an estimated price point that you are trying to hit?

Edit: Also what materials do you play to make this out of? Are you sticking with just aluminum or are you going to be offering a plastic/acrylic version for the community?

GB date is currently not possible to speculate due to having to get protos first. All your other questions are answered in the IC

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Re: [IC] Swiss | A Cheese Keyboard!
« Reply #128 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 03:40:27 »
2nd Proto ordered and started production!