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Offline dandruff

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[IC] ePBT Soju - Updated Manufacturer, Kits, and Others!
« on: Sun, 04 October 2020, 08:50:37 »

Hey everyone!

Welcome to the IC! This is officially my first public set design, so without further ado, may I present ePBT Soju!
Obviously, the set was inspired by the Korean alcoholic drink, Soju. With a positive relationship with my love for soju and a negative tolerance level for alcohol, I decided to pay homage to it.

ePBT Soju

Render by me (Leopold fc660m)


Colors:


Kits:

Initially, Version 1 (not my proudest work), included an accent color for most of the flavors; however, this would jack up the prices of the set and make it extremely expensive to produce.
Therefore, the two accents kit will be Green Grape and Peach.
If you do not like the original flavor and do not see your preference of flavor, it is likely that you have poor taste buds, but letís hope that your tastebuds arenít as poor as your eyesight  ;)
Also, the novelty in accent kits is intentional. I want people to either pick Peach or Green Grape.


Base Kit


Novelties


Green Grape Accent


Peach Accent


40s kit


Accent Spacebars


Alpha Spacebars




Renders:


Rendered on Pillow65 (Esc novelty not updated)



Rendered on U80


Collaborations:
Artkey Universe - Artisan
Alpha Keycaps - Artisan
Luxecables - Cable
Deagcaps - Artisan
Rathcaps - Artisan
LastPadawan - Deskmat
More Pending...

Vendors:
USA: TBD
Canada: Deskhero.CA
Europe: Mykeyboard.eu
Rest of Asia: KBDFans
SEA: Monokei
Korea: MonstarGear
Oceania: DailyClack

Pricing:
TBD

GB Date:
ESTIMATED FEBRUARY 2021


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EXTRA INFORMATION (Pretty important):
1. Switching manufacturer was an attempt to solve two issues:
GB date and MOQ issues; however, although MOQ is actually achievable now so the set will run, the GB date is set back due to ePBT finishing their technology with five-sided sublimation aka reverse dye-sub.
Due to this, the GB estimation date is in February (sorry!)

2.With the feedback I received and the switch to ePBT, here are the changes I implemented:
- REMOVAL OF THE TOP HANGUL LEGENDS ON QWERTOP!!!
- 소주 novelty
- Kitting change
- Addition of 40s kit





Thanks to:
Ham
UstinJ
Hark for Renders (Hark#9242)
Zozain for Novelties
MechGroupBuy
KeycapDesigner's Discord
Anyone else who may have helped




« Last Edit: Mon, 19 October 2020, 02:53:23 by dandruff »

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Re: [IC] JTK Soju
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 04 October 2020, 08:51:37 »
Nice looking set!


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Re: [IC] JTK Soju
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 04 October 2020, 08:54:38 »
very clean! love the idea of kits for different flavours.


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Re: [IC] JTK Soju
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 04 October 2020, 08:55:00 »
Interesting concept. I think it's so close to Royal Alpha that the main differentiators here are the sub-legends and novelties. Could be worth if that's your bag, but otherwise may be tough to compete.
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Re: [IC] JTK Soju
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 04 October 2020, 08:59:25 »
Oops, forgot to address this. After I made the concept, I was told about Royal Alpha. I personally contacted that designer to see if it was okay with them. I tried to make alphas more cream and greens different, but ultimately it does have the light alphas + green mods look

Like you said, I am trying to appeal to a different group with the new tripleshot hangul molds.
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Re: [IC] JTK Soju
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 04 October 2020, 09:28:58 »
Tripleshot, me likey :cool:

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Re: [IC] JTK Soju
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 04 October 2020, 11:03:50 »
Triple shot in Hangul, that's what I want!

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Re: [IC] JTK Soju
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 04 October 2020, 11:47:21 »
Nice set :) I'm in w/ peach flavor accents.

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Re: [IC] JTK Soju
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 04 October 2020, 11:54:13 »
i dont drink but i like the colorway, good luck!

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Re: [IC] JTK Soju
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 04 October 2020, 12:50:58 »
Looking pretty tasty

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Re: [IC] JTK Soju
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 04 October 2020, 14:04:45 »
novelties are so cute >-<

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Re: [IC] JTK Soju
« Reply #11 on: Sun, 04 October 2020, 15:28:24 »
Hey everyone! Thanks for the comments and feedback.

Addressing a few concerns that I see coming up a lot:


1. Double consonants on Korean alphas - Unfortunately, this is not up to me. I did design this initially without incorporating them; however, the person that will be tracing the molds is set on the double consonants. Sorry! (BEING DISCUSSED CURRENTLY)

2. Already addressed in the IC, again, I can not make accents for every color; however, I do see that some people may want accents for ALL of the mods, if that's the case, it may be at the expense of being more expensive.

3. Non-hangul legends- depends on demand (but it will take away from the set overall with no longer needing tripleshot)

4. Set compatibility: NorDe and Ortho (and anything else) - Originally, the set was made with full compatibility; however, JTK asked me to cut down the set to match their previous runs. Sorry again here too, it's not up to me!

5. A lot of comments/feedback in full Korean- sorry, I'm not Korean, I'm an aspiring alcoholic  :(
« Last Edit: Sun, 04 October 2020, 15:46:52 by dandruff »

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Re: [IC] JTK Soju
« Reply #12 on: Sun, 04 October 2020, 16:55:19 »
One shot!!!  :p

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Re: [IC] JTK Soju
« Reply #14 on: Sun, 04 October 2020, 22:07:20 »
ive been looking for something like this for a loooooong time! defintiely in. :-*

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Re: [IC] JTK Soju
« Reply #15 on: Sun, 04 October 2020, 22:09:25 »
nice

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Re: [IC] JTK Soju
« Reply #16 on: Sun, 04 October 2020, 22:10:36 »
Looking good, def in for team grape

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Re: [IC] JTK Soju
« Reply #17 on: Sun, 04 October 2020, 22:55:57 »
I'm never going to financially recover from this
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Re: [IC] JTK Soju
« Reply #18 on: Sun, 04 October 2020, 23:51:41 »
love the novelties! GLWGB

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Re: [IC] JTK Soju
« Reply #19 on: Mon, 05 October 2020, 09:23:21 »
looking good dandruff! glws

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Re: [IC] JTK Soju
« Reply #20 on: Mon, 05 October 2020, 12:33:41 »
100% purchasing this!


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Re: [IC] JTK Soju
« Reply #21 on: Mon, 05 October 2020, 12:37:25 »
Are you thinking of collaborating with anyone to get a matching cable with this key set?

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Re: [IC] JTK Soju
« Reply #22 on: Mon, 05 October 2020, 12:43:39 »
This is amazing and I NEED IT. Can you post the signature link so we can add it for support across the forums?

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Re: [IC] JTK Soju
« Reply #23 on: Mon, 05 October 2020, 16:21:56 »
Are you thinking of collaborating with anyone to get a matching cable with this key set?

Updated the collab list!

This is amazing and I NEED IT. Can you post the signature link so we can add it for support across the forums?

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Re: [IC] JTK Soju - Updated Collaborations and IC Reflection
« Reply #24 on: Mon, 05 October 2020, 16:46:34 »
I NEED THIS IN MY LIFE!!!!!

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Re: [IC] JTK Soju - Updated Collaborations and IC Reflection
« Reply #25 on: Mon, 05 October 2020, 18:36:53 »
Not so convinced on 7741C, but otherwise very interested. The double consonants are kind of a nuisance, hope you get it resolved. good luck!

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Re: [IC] JTK Soju - Updated Collaborations and IC Reflection
« Reply #26 on: Tue, 06 October 2020, 05:32:49 »
Not so convinced on 7741C, but otherwise very interested. The double consonants are kind of a nuisance, hope you get it resolved. good luck!

Yeah, I'm trying to resolve the consonants. As for 7741C, it is slightly different in the physical Pantone book, and I'm afraid of going any darker so that it contrasts with the dark accents better. But thank you!


Also for everyone: I have updated 2 new renders (with more coming still)!


Rendered on Pillow65
Renders made by Hark
« Last Edit: Tue, 06 October 2020, 19:22:01 by dandruff »

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Re: [IC] JTK Soju - Updated Collaborations and New Render
« Reply #27 on: Tue, 06 October 2020, 15:57:08 »
looooveee this and now want to go out and buy soju.

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Re: [IC] JTK Soju - Updated Collaborations and New Render
« Reply #28 on: Tue, 06 October 2020, 16:30:47 »
Do you have an idea on what desk mats you're wanting to go for? I know I personally would love a peach themed one.

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Re: [IC] JTK Soju - Updated Collaborations and New Render
« Reply #29 on: Tue, 06 October 2020, 20:56:42 »
Do you have an idea on what desk mats you're wanting to go for? I know I personally would love a peach themed one.

As of now, I have a few ideas in my head to pick between, but nothing to jump on yet. I think I will get someone in graphics design or have worked with deskmats to help me out to ensure it turns out successful!

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Re: [IC] JTK Soju - Updated Collaborations and New Render
« Reply #30 on: Tue, 06 October 2020, 21:59:45 »
Just wanted to share my enthusiasm for this project. I've just talked with the designer of this set and they're incredibly excited to bring this set out to the community. Me and my teammates will be picking up this set when it goes live and I just want to say thanks for sharing the project with us.

I look forward to your next update and you have my team's support if you need it. This is a fun project and I'm glad you decided to create it!

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Re: [IC] JTK Soju - Updated Collaborations and New Render
« Reply #31 on: Wed, 07 October 2020, 12:01:44 »
Oo missed out on GMK Camping extras this might fill the spot for me

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Re: [IC] JTK Soju - Updated Collaborations and New Render
« Reply #32 on: Wed, 07 October 2020, 17:55:31 »
I quite like this! geonbae!

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Re: [IC] Soju - IMPORTANT UPDATE: NEW IC FORM (+renders)
« Reply #33 on: Fri, 09 October 2020, 06:11:41 »
Thank you for the support thus far, it truly means a lot!

VERY IMPORTANT FORM UPDATE FOR THOSE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN MY SET!
Please respond as it would help me out drastically.

https://forms.gle/acovYvJhqX9o46Kj7

Also, added renders made by Hark showing off the accents kit!




« Last Edit: Fri, 09 October 2020, 07:15:18 by dandruff »

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Re: [IC] JTK Soju - Updated Collaborations and New Render
« Reply #34 on: Fri, 09 October 2020, 13:52:32 »
Do you have an idea on what desk mats you're wanting to go for? I know I personally would love a peach themed one.
Seconding the peach theme! :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Soju - IMPORTANT UPDATE: NEW IC FORM
« Reply #35 on: Fri, 09 October 2020, 15:28:47 »
I think epbt is the way to go. They seem to be making a lot of effort to get better, and as cool as tripleshot is there's a lot of sets in the pipeline that are about to do it. I would hate to see this project go into a sort of "development hell" because you're unable to decide. You have some fantastic kitting and theming already, you're more than halfway there to getting it into people's hands. A set like this not seeing the light of day would be a real shame!

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Re: [IC] Soju - IMPORTANT UPDATE: NEW IC FORM
« Reply #36 on: Sat, 10 October 2020, 00:10:23 »
I still remember the first day you joined Keycap Designer with your all neon green colors  :p :p  :thumb:

This looks sooo good

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Re: [IC] Soju - IMPORTANT UPDATE: NEW IC FORM
« Reply #37 on: Sat, 10 October 2020, 13:20:16 »
For some reason this reminded me more of my favorite beer, Tsingtao lol instead of Soju. Really like this though! Very well designed! It's not often that I like louder greens lol. You are also very talented at renders!

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Re: [IC] Soju - IMPORTANT UPDATE: NEW IC FORM
« Reply #38 on: Sat, 10 October 2020, 18:05:48 »
Looks amazing Dandruff.  Excited to see it come to life and will be awaiting your GB for sure.
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Re: [IC] Soju - IMPORTANT UPDATE: NEW IC FORM
« Reply #39 on: Sat, 10 October 2020, 21:31:19 »
Looks fantastic mate. Big fan of the flavored accents. Well done.

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Re: [IC] Soju - IMPORTANT UPDATE: NEW IC FORM
« Reply #40 on: Sat, 10 October 2020, 23:06:10 »
Can we still get the sub legends on ePBT? I personally love sublegends and these go all the way with my love for Korean culture

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Re: [IC] Soju - IMPORTANT UPDATE: NEW IC FORM
« Reply #41 on: Sun, 11 October 2020, 00:48:10 »
First off, thank you EVERYONE for all of the comments and feedback. I really appreciate everything thus far. I will now address

Can we still get the sub legends on ePBT? I personally love sublegends and these go all the way with my love for Korean culture

-Regarding to this, yep! The point is that the sublegends will 100% be part of the final product. I do not intend on getting rid of them or making them a different color regardless of which manufacturer I go with.

  • Manufacturer?
    Pretty set on one, but I will update that soon when I get more details
  • Peach alpha? Peach mods? Peach sublegends?
    No, too many kits to handle and would be JTK/ePBT Peach than it would be JTK/ePBT Soju
  • Deskmat/RAMA?
    Planning for both to be made (100% confirmation on deskmat)
  • Non-hangul/latin?
    Maybe, personally, this may bring it to be too similar to Royal Alpha without any distinguishable factors
  • Hangul on number keys?
    No, that's like having "1" and "one" on the same key
  • Why not GMK?
    For Hangul to be green
  • WHERE IS MY FLAVOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???
    Adding another flavor will depend on what manufacturer I lied.
  • BUT WHAT ABOUT (       ) FLAVOR?
    No.
  • 40s kit?
    POSSIBLE WITH ePBT
  • And for my korean folks who want to remove the top hangul legend
    POSSIBLE WITH ePBT
Let me know if I missed anything crucial, and I'll edit in my response!

Pretty sure answering those questions gives you all a rough idea on the manufacturer I'm leaning with  ;)
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Re: [IC] Soju - Responded to feedback (announcing manufacturer soon)
« Reply #42 on: Sun, 11 October 2020, 22:03:38 »
First off, thank you EVERYONE for all of the comments and feedback. I really appreciate everything thus far. I will now address

Can we still get the sub legends on ePBT? I personally love sublegends and these go all the way with my love for Korean culture

-Regarding to this, yep! The point is that the sublegends will 100% be part of the final product. I do not intend on getting rid of them or making them a different color regardless of which manufacturer I go with.

  • Manufacturer?
    Pretty set on one, but I will update that soon when I get more details
  • Peach alpha? Peach mods? Peach sublegends?
    No, too many kits to handle and would be JTK/ePBT Peach than it would be JTK/ePBT Soju
  • Deskmat/RAMA?
    Planning for both to be made (100% confirmation on deskmat)
  • Non-hangul/latin?
    Maybe, personally, this may bring it to be too similar to Royal Alpha without any distinguishable factors
  • Hangul on number keys?
    No, that's like having "1" and "one" on the same key
  • Why not GMK?
    For Hangul to be green
  • WHERE IS MY FLAVOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???
    Adding another flavor will depend on what manufacturer I decide to go with (ePBT= I will CONSIDER (don't hold me against it) adding one flavor: Fresh)
  • BUT WHAT ABOUT (       ) FLAVOR?
    No.
  • 40s kit?
    POSSIBLE WITH ePBT
  • And for my korean folks who want to remove the top hangul legend
    POSSIBLE WITH ePBT
Let me know if I missed anything crucial, and I'll edit in my response!

Pretty sure answering those questions gives you all a rough idea on the manufacturer I'm leaning with  ;)

I'd like to thank you for being so vocal and communicating with us so efficiently. These are the most responses I've seen so far and it's awesome. I can't wait for the GB!

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Re: [IC] Soju - Responded to feedback (announcing manufacturer soon)
« Reply #43 on: Mon, 12 October 2020, 06:08:32 »
Iíve been looking to get a nice JTK set and this seems it!!

Personally Iíd love to see a grapefruit kit, too!
OR if thereís an alternative mods set thatís a mix of peach and grapefruit colors together? It would look great with the green.

And I have a font suggestion for 소주 novelties, inspired from the Cham Iseul soju attached below.
Itíd also look fire.

I was imagining a more mature novelty kit given the theme is 20+ (and venting the stresses of life :í)) like detailing the angles of the soju glass (also attached below), but it seems you are interested in a more playful version of the kit with facial expressions on the novelty icons.

I think itíd really depend on how you would develop the set, but if itís going to be JTK running late next year or something like that, there would be room for many more people (and many of them being Koreans as the interest is definitely rising) to join the community and I think 3,000 may as well be possible!

For sure, the Koreans would love the soju font and the realistic soju glass Iíd imagine.

Nice theme! Thanks for the IC!

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Re: [IC] Soju - Responded to feedback (announcing manufacturer soon)
« Reply #44 on: Tue, 13 October 2020, 17:52:24 »
Thanks for stopping by the 40s discord! Happy to help you out with any further kitting questions. I look forward to your continued development on this.  :cool:

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Re: [IC] Soju - Responded to feedback (announcing manufacturer soon)
« Reply #45 on: Tue, 13 October 2020, 20:08:45 »
Really like the idea behind this with the accent colors as flavors! Always wanted a nice Hangul set  :p

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Re: [IC] ePBT Soju - Updated Manufacturer, Kits, and Others!
« Reply #46 on: Sat, 17 October 2020, 19:22:56 »
Iíve been looking to get a nice JTK set and this seems it!!

Personally Iíd love to see a grapefruit kit, too!
OR if thereís an alternative mods set thatís a mix of peach and grapefruit colors together? It would look great with the green.

And I have a font suggestion for 소주 novelties, inspired from the Cham Iseul soju attached below.
Itíd also look fire.

I was imagining a more mature novelty kit given the theme is 20+ (and venting the stresses of life :í)) like detailing the angles of the soju glass (also attached below), but it seems you are interested in a more playful version of the kit with facial expressions on the novelty icons.

I think itíd really depend on how you would develop the set, but if itís going to be JTK running late next year or something like that, there would be room for many more people (and many of them being Koreans as the interest is definitely rising) to join the community and I think 3,000 may as well be possible!

For sure, the Koreans would love the soju font and the realistic soju glass Iíd imagine.

Nice theme! Thanks for the IC!

- Grapefruit will not happen, I'm sorry :(
- Font suggestion has been mentioned in feedback of IC, and has now been updated!
- As for mature vs cute novelties, for me, the appeal of the flavors is more cute than it is a mature alcoholic thing. I wanted to stay on theme overall, and I decided to take the cute approach. I am not considering changing novelties to a more realistic/mature feel.

- As for JTK and the rest of my IC...

Announcement:
ePBT will be the manufacturer.

Updated kits, collaboration, and other information announced (GB, reverse dye-sub, signature, etc.!)

As for flavors, sorry, I lied... There will still only be two.

Hopefully I didn't miss anything, but let me know.

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Re: [IC] ePBT Soju - Updated Manufacturer, Kits, and Others!
« Reply #47 on: Sat, 17 October 2020, 19:28:32 »
Was excited for JTK Soju. Now? Not so much. Never take the easy route


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Re: [IC] ePBT Soju - Updated Manufacturer, Kits, and Others!
« Reply #48 on: Sat, 17 October 2020, 19:43:01 »
Was excited for JTK Soju. Now? Not so much. Never take the easy route


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Well, really quick... I want to address this.
1. What happens if my set sells 1000 of the 3000, and 3-4 designs failed to do the rest of the 2000? Becaues of other's designs, my set would not run.
2. ePBT allowed for a lot of the changes that people requested. For example, JTK would not allow me to remove the top hangul legends nor have a 40s kit.
3. It is not the issue of easy or not, it's the reassurance that my set will be able to run and if it fails, it'll be on me and not factors that I had no control over.
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Re: [IC] ePBT Soju - Updated Manufacturer, Kits, and Others!
« Reply #49 on: Sat, 17 October 2020, 19:50:34 »
Was excited for JTK Soju. Now? Not so much. Never take the easy route


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Well, really quick... I want to address this.
1. What happens if my set sold 1000 of the 3000, and 3-4 designs failed to do the rest of the 2000? Becaues of other's designs, my set would not run.
2. ePBT allowed for a lot of the changes that people requested. For example, JTK would not allow me to remove the top hangul legends nor have a 40s kit.
3. It is not the issue of easy or not, it's the reassurance that my set will be able to run and if it fails, it'll be on me and not factors that I had no control over.
1. Based off of previous and upcoming sets, itís pretty easy to get a general consensus of what people like and buy. Maybe communicating with other creators and brainstorming what could fill that 2000 margin?
2. On the other hand, a lot of people like myself think the Hangul sublegends looked great on this set. Really great!
3. Why would it be better to fail on your own, rather than trying to put out a top quality product that could be centerpieces to a lot of peopleís collections? Maybe itís just an opinion thing.
Oh and are there still Peach F Keys? I saw a render with them but didnít see them in the kits


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