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[IC] GEM65 - 65% / Gasket Mount / WKL / Seamless
« on: Thu, 08 October 2020, 13:39:28 »
After the first IC and more work on the design and further planning, we are finally able to give you an update on the project GEM65.

The heart is still the brass diamond on the back of the case and we still aim for a minimalistic build.

We looked into all feedback we got from the IC and decided to do some major changes to the Layout.

The post was updated and now entails all current information and the status of the project!

The most important updates are that we are happy to be able to use a Wilba PCB and Salvun as the manufacturer.



At first we would like to show you some new Renders. (More will follow):













Designed by:

Laminar and KEYGEM




Technical Details:

  • 65%
  • Gasket Mount (poron)
  • Solderable PCB
  • USB-C daughterboard
  • Seamless design
  • ANSI and ISO support with one PCB
  • 7-Degree Typing Angle




Plates:

The Plates will be offered in 3 different materials:
  • Brass
  • FR4 (black)
  • Polycarbonate
We will have one plate for ANSI and one plate for ISO support.

 

 




PCB:

We will use the WT65-G-GRAPHITE PCB from Wilba which supports ANSI and ISO.
The following layouts will be possible:






Colors:

There will be 3 color options. It will be black and deep blue. The third color is not clear yet. We are looking into rose gold but it might change in the next weeks.




Vendor:

EU: KEYGEM
At the moment there will be no proxies for other regions, however, we will try to ship worldwide.




Manufacturer:

We are happy to announce that we will work with Salvun as the manufacturer for our project!



Pricing:
TBD - we will update as soon as possible



Units:

50-100




Next Steps:
  • Second IC
  • Prototype by Salvun
  • Pricing
« Last Edit: Sat, 28 November 2020, 16:44:58 by KEYGEM »

Offline m00b

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Re: [IC] GEM65 - 65% / Gasket Mount / WKL / Seamless
« Reply #1 on: Thu, 08 October 2020, 13:40:18 »
Looks nice

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Offline Tasooki

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Re: [IC] GEM65 - 65% / Gasket Mount / WKL / Seamless
« Reply #2 on: Thu, 08 October 2020, 13:48:24 »
Looks pretty good! love the weight.

Offline TacoSausje

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Re: [IC] GEM65 - 65% / Gasket Mount / WKL / Seamless
« Reply #3 on: Thu, 08 October 2020, 14:33:30 »
This is on the waiting list!

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« Reply #4 on: Thu, 08 October 2020, 14:36:16 »
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Re: [IC] GEM65 - 65% / Gasket Mount / WKL / Seamless
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 08 October 2020, 14:47:28 »
gasket wkl 65
amazing :thumb:
my friend and I will buy

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Re: [IC] GEM65 - 65% / Gasket Mount / WKL / Seamless
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 08 October 2020, 14:57:20 »
huh, know quantity but no rough price? Will this get the newspaper?

Too early to say if I'm fully interested, but I will definitely follow how this develops.

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Re: [IC] GEM65 - 65% / Gasket Mount / WKL / Seamless
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 08 October 2020, 15:00:30 »
It is the Quantity we are aiming for a the beginning which is not fix. We will post a price as soon as we know it. But at the moment we would like to gather feedback to finalise everything which also means the pricing.

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« Reply #8 on: Thu, 08 October 2020, 15:41:53 »
Amazing work! Looking great

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« Reply #9 on: Thu, 08 October 2020, 15:57:24 »
Looking forward to this 🙂

Offline soloplayer

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« Reply #10 on: Thu, 08 October 2020, 22:16:21 »
look so great! will follow this  :)
about color, imho black, silver or white top black bot would look doe with the weight
will the pcb support esd protection and VIA?
any plan for other plate materials e.g POM?
many thanks

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Re: [IC] GEM65 - 65% / Gasket Mount / WKL / Seamless
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 08 October 2020, 22:41:35 »
Could you explain the bottom row layout please? Am I seeing 1.75u keys and a 6.5u spacebar?

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Re: [IC] GEM65 - 65% / Gasket Mount / WKL / Seamless
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 08 October 2020, 23:59:49 »
AMAZING!
I would like to buy 10 for the people of my village?
ahaaaa, keyboard. HOVA

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Re: [IC] GEM65 - 65% / Gasket Mount / WKL / Seamless
« Reply #13 on: Fri, 09 October 2020, 00:24:26 »
look so great! will follow this  :)
about color, imho black, silver or white top black bot would look doe with the weight
will the pcb support esd protection and VIA?
any plan for other plate materials e.g POM?
many thanks

Since the design of the PCB is one of the next steps we can not tell the exact specifications by now :)
Thanks for the Feedback!

Could you explain the bottom row layout please? Am I seeing 1.75u keys and a 6.5u spacebar?

The Renders are a bit of regarding the Keycaps.
The current layout we plan is:  1.5U, 0.75 Spacer, 1.5U, 7U Spacebar, 1.5U, 0.75 spacer, 1U, 1U, 1U
« Last Edit: Fri, 09 October 2020, 00:46:04 by KEYGEM »

Offline Dr-lipschitz

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Re: [IC] GEM65 - 65% / Gasket Mount / WKL / Seamless
« Reply #14 on: Fri, 09 October 2020, 02:45:26 »
I'm interested, but only if there is a WK option. for those of us that use mac, a windows key is a requirement.

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« Reply #15 on: Fri, 09 October 2020, 02:53:26 »
i would like to see a red option as the third colour of the board
« Last Edit: Sun, 29 November 2020, 04:52:13 by WejB »

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Re: [IC] GEM65 - 65% / Gasket Mount / WKL / Seamless
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 09 October 2020, 03:30:56 »
Good job. Very interesting.

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Re: [IC] GEM65 - 65% / Gasket Mount / WKL / Seamless
« Reply #17 on: Fri, 09 October 2020, 03:51:32 »
Absolutely love WKL 65s and I absolutely love keygem so cant wait for this!!!

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Re: [IC] GEM65 - 65% / Gasket Mount / WKL / Seamless
« Reply #18 on: Fri, 09 October 2020, 14:11:33 »
Thanks to everyone who participated in the IC so far :) We got a lot of feedback in the first 24h and are working on the plate and PCB so it will provide WKL and Winkey and also ISO and ANSI support :)

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Re: [IC] GEM65 - 65% / Gasket Mount / WKL / Seamless
« Reply #19 on: Sat, 10 October 2020, 15:09:02 »
Updated the post regarding the Layouts!
« Last Edit: Sat, 10 October 2020, 15:11:08 by KEYGEM »

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« Reply #20 on: Sun, 11 October 2020, 05:14:17 »
Happy to see the guys at keygem are updating the information as we make changes!

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« Reply #21 on: Mon, 12 October 2020, 06:51:08 »
You had me at ISO. Love the design, + my preferred size is 65%, so this is an obvious buy for me if possible (limited numbers).

Offline elisyan

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« Reply #22 on: Wed, 28 October 2020, 02:31:31 »
It's really exciting to see both gasket and leaf spring! I hope to pick one up if US shipping is available.

It seems like WKL is the priority for this board but I am glad that winkey version is being offered. Any ideas on what colors are being considered?

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« Reply #23 on: Sat, 14 November 2020, 14:32:25 »
Love the board and the design. But will there be a Iso layout and will it come with a soffter plate, like FR4, pom, eller pollycarb?

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« Reply #24 on: Sun, 15 November 2020, 00:27:58 »
Tiffany case please

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« Reply #25 on: Sun, 15 November 2020, 18:31:38 »
I'd be so in if there was a silver color option <3

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Re: [IC] GEM65 - 65% / Gasket Mount / WKL / Seamless
« Reply #26 on: Sun, 15 November 2020, 19:33:47 »
huh, know quantity but no rough price? Will this get the newspaper?

Too early to say if I'm fully interested, but I will definitely follow how this develops.

Knowing quantity first may not be a bad sign especially because the quantity mentioned was relatively low. This could be a good sign as the (future) GB runner knows that they cannot handle a larger amount. Putting price early for a first IC is always risky as they are awaiting feedback to make changes. Maybe a price target would be nice but I think this IC is good.

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Re: [IC] GEM65 - 65% / Gasket Mount / WKL / Seamless
« Reply #27 on: Sun, 15 November 2020, 19:37:23 »
huh, know quantity but no rough price? Will this get the newspaper?

Too early to say if I'm fully interested, but I will definitely follow how this develops.

Knowing quantity first may not be a bad sign especially because the quantity mentioned was relatively low. This could be a good sign as the (future) GB runner knows that they cannot handle a larger amount. Putting price early for a first IC is always risky as they are awaiting feedback to make changes. Maybe a price target would be nice but I think this IC is good.
KeyGem is a really professional vendor, not a backyard taking payment from emailing invoices. Wouldn't have any trepidation on this front if I were you  :thumb:

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« Reply #28 on: Sun, 15 November 2020, 21:57:50 »
A couple things.

1. For the winkey version, I think a more normal layout with a right blocker would be more pleasing (7u spacebar with 1.5u key to the right, like in the WKL version). The current 3 1u keys make the layout look cramped.

2. For the weight, it would be cool if other colors were offered. The gold-ish color might not be everyone's cup of tea.

3. I think the bottom would look cleaner if the feet were just horizontal lines or round, instead of the current cornered design. They make the bottom look like a picture frame as they are now.

4. Will there be a hotswap version of the pcb offered?

Otherwise, the board looks beautiful, definitely very tempting.
« Last Edit: Sun, 15 November 2020, 22:01:25 by afynyth »

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Re: [IC] GEM65 - 65% / Gasket Mount / WKL / Seamless
« Reply #29 on: Mon, 16 November 2020, 08:06:31 »
Very clean design! You may want to chamfer the edges tho and make the blocker corners less sharp.

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Re: [IC] GEM65 - 65% / Gasket Mount / WKL / Seamless
« Reply #30 on: Tue, 17 November 2020, 16:01:16 »
We are finalizing and also changing a lot at the moment. That is why we are a bit quiet :) But we will have a huge update once we are done with everything which also means once we ordered the protos :)

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Re: [IC] GEM65 - 65% / Gasket Mount / WKL / Seamless
« Reply #31 on: Tue, 17 November 2020, 16:11:56 »
Very nice, this will be my first 65 if I can get in on it!

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« Reply #32 on: Tue, 17 November 2020, 19:26:47 »
Yep

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« Reply #33 on: Wed, 18 November 2020, 03:58:44 »
What colours we thinking? Space grey!? ;)

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« Reply #34 on: Thu, 19 November 2020, 23:33:55 »
looks super clean. Definitely looking forward to more updates

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Re: [IC] GEM65 - 65% / Gasket Mount / WKL / Seamless
« Reply #35 on: Sat, 28 November 2020, 16:45:36 »
We finally got some news for you :) The first post was updated!
« Last Edit: Sat, 28 November 2020, 16:53:55 by KEYGEM »

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« Reply #36 on: Sat, 28 November 2020, 17:52:06 »
GOD I love that beautiful weight. Really loving the design. Had a couple questions:

1. Would you consider making the bezels a little thinner?
2. Would you consider adding a top-right blocker? I know it might be over-used but I can see the top-right blocker looking really nice on this board and this theme.

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Re: [IC] GEM65 - 65% / Gasket Mount / WKL / Seamless
« Reply #37 on: Sun, 29 November 2020, 10:51:25 »
Hello,

I have to say no to both because both are points which are like this at the moment because we wanted them like this. No blocker on the top corner and also the bezel like that.

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« Reply #38 on: Sun, 29 November 2020, 12:04:25 »
Is silver out as a color option? I feel like few 65% boards offered a silver option these days even though I'd love to see one.

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Re: [IC] GEM65 - 65% / Gasket Mount / WKL / Seamless
« Reply #39 on: Mon, 30 November 2020, 13:33:31 »
Currently, we have black and deep blue as fixed and the third is still open. Like I said we aim for rose gold but if that does not work we will ask the community for the third one.

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« Reply #40 on: Wed, 13 January 2021, 23:57:35 »
how is prototype going?

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« Reply #41 on: Thu, 14 January 2021, 06:17:03 »
Clean and simple
Supports ISO
Gasket mount
Ships from EU

I'm definitely getting one!

I check geekhack from time to time but will you also be informing via the Keygem newsletter about when the GB is going live?