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Offline trx07

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Need support with brass plate
« on: Tue, 08 December 2020, 13:33:40 »
Hi all!

I've ordered a bunch of keyboard parts for a new keyboard I'm building, and after I ordered all of the parts I saw a keyboard layout that I absolutely loved. The layout in question is in the image below



My PCB supports this type of layout, but the brass plate (image below on top of my PCB) I bought doesn't, I'm wondering what would be the best way to modify it to support that layout if at all?



Thank you all in advance!

Offline nevin

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Re: Need support with brass plate
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 08 December 2020, 13:55:32 »
it's just the bottom right corner that's different, right?

what pcb is it? are you sure the layout is supported? the white board is slightly different than a 60% with split right shift. (right shift is to left by 1u) with (2) 1u keys to the right of right shift (usually there's only one)

what pcb is it? (supported layouts)
what plate is it? (supported layouts)

need a little more info.

so this is the layout you want.
257410-0

and this is what the plate would look like for this layout
257412-1

you can see a couple areas that would need adjusted on the plate IF the pcb supports this layout

here's a quick & dirty overlay
257414-2

suggest dremel tool with cutoff wheel & some files.

or you could also put it together without the plate, stabs are pcb mount anyway right? looks like a standard tray mount (pcb would mount to the bottom of the case.
« Last Edit: Tue, 08 December 2020, 14:19:24 by nevin »
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Offline trx07

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Re: Need support with brass plate
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 08 December 2020, 14:33:36 »
The PCB I'm using is the DZ60, with a brass plate bought from KBDfans, I'm 99% sure that PCB supports the layout shown in the top picture.

Offline nevin

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Re: Need support with brass plate
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 08 December 2020, 14:49:16 »
nope. unfortunately not. you're all good except for the (2) 1u to the right of the 1.75 right shift.

257417-0
pulled from kdbfans this is the rev 3 page
https://kbdfans.com/products/dz60-60-pcb

you can use just one 1u to the right of the right shift, and use the 1.75 shift as the up arrow. i did that for years with a kbtalking pure 60%.
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Offline nevin

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Re: Need support with brass plate
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 08 December 2020, 15:02:09 »
the only one that i know of that has that many keys in the bottom right corner is the steazy60, but that's alps/smk (not mx)
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=103531.0

you could always get a plate cut & handwire.
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Offline heavyheaded

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Re: Need support with brass plate
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 16 December 2020, 11:45:34 »
nope. unfortunately not. you're all good except for the (2) 1u to the right of the 1.75 right shift.

(Attachment Link)
pulled from kdbfans this is the rev 3 page
https://kbdfans.com/products/dz60-60-pcb

you can use just one 1u to the right of the right shift, and use the 1.75 shift as the up arrow. i did that for years with a kbtalking pure 60%.

I built my first 60% with a previous rev dz60 with the shift row layout OP is looking for. Comparing a spare dz60 I have on hand to the rev3 pic, it seems to me the rev3 does actually support this configuration, just it isn't in the kbdfans pics.

Offline nevin

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Re: Need support with brass plate
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 16 December 2020, 12:05:37 »
one way to find out... populate that area on the pcb with switches & caps & see if it works (without soldering of course, just to test layout)
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