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Offline Toriaki

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[IC] Keeblast TKL
« on: Mon, 08 February 2021, 18:46:42 »
Introducing Keeblast TKL

An anodized aluminum case with full brass bottom, hot swap PCB and a gasket mount plate.



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Specifications

Case

Anodized aluminum top and body;
Both regular and WKL top available;
Full brass bottom (optional aluminum bottom);
Internal cork dampener;
Typing angle: 6º;
Colors considered (dependent on anodization services, to be confirmed):
        White Soul (matte white)        Classic Blue (blue)        Coal (matte black)        Bok Choy (green)        Burgundy (red)        Peach Bud (pink)        Pak Choi (purple)        Excalibur (gray)


Plate

ANSI and ISO support;
USB-C connection;
Aluminum or brass body.


PCB

ISO or ANSI available;
QMK and VIA compatible;
Per key RGB led;
Hot swap;
Considering a black version.


Includes knob, rotary encoder and OLED screen.
Does not include keycaps or switches!

Expected price for this kit:
Aluminum bottom version - TBD
Brass bottom version - TBD

Prototype coming soon!

Please register your interest and leave any tips/suggestions by filling this form!
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeZa4vfQqu8kMrTjFCScfuKVilZEU1_Lg2gvVXm-oostUWTXA/viewform?usp=sf_link
Thank you <3
« Last Edit: Mon, 22 February 2021, 08:34:11 by Toriaki »

Offline Alejo1707

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 08 February 2021, 18:51:11 »
A TKL Sat75

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Offline Oggi

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 08 February 2021, 18:51:57 »


kinda sus

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 08 February 2021, 18:53:07 »
Good price


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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 08 February 2021, 18:53:23 »
this is a TKL, looks interesting especially with that price point

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 08 February 2021, 18:58:49 »

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 08 February 2021, 18:59:04 »
i see tkl im interested

But need to see proto

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 08 February 2021, 18:59:35 »
Ne screws avail?

Very interested to see if you can hit that price point

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 08 February 2021, 19:04:35 »
looks like it needs to be ironed out a bit, but the tkl with knob + oled there has been on the mind for a while, good idea - not many people typically use those three keys anyway

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 08 February 2021, 19:06:40 »
looks like it needs to be ironed out a bit, but the tkl with knob + oled there has been on the mind for a while, good idea - not many people typically use those three keys anyway
True, I use print screen and be done with those.

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 08 February 2021, 19:07:47 »
How are you getting this board's pricepoint so low?

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 08 February 2021, 19:14:32 »
I think it is best to go back to the drawing board with this and come back with a more flushed out idea.
For starters, just after looking at your renders you don't seem to have actually implemented any screws into the design. As a big FYI here, you need screws to put the board together, unless you're thinking of magnets, which won't be able to hold that massive bottom together with the case top.
(Also haven't seen a USB port in any of the renders - but I am going to give the benefit of the doubt in that it is somewhere on the rear of the case top that we just can't see from the render angles provided)

For the flex cut in your plate, I would suggest moving the top most cut above row 3 rather than keeping it below, as not doing so can result in pretty inconsistent flex - this isn't me just talking out of my ass, but out of experience testing flex cut positioning on a range of formfactors.

In regards to your estimated pricing, I implore you to just delete that section right now. You evidently have no clue how much these units will cost as you put a mere 40 euro price difference between a brass bottom vs alu bottom board, in which just by looking at the design, that would be massive f*cking piece of brass. Estimated prices are generally better once you have a good idea as to what your board would cost to machine plus hardware/packaging/PCBs/etc.

There are a few things that I personally am not fond of with this design, but that is not my place to say.

Please take this back to the drawing board and spend some more time on this project to push it in the right direction.
GLWIC

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #12 on: Mon, 08 February 2021, 20:21:39 »
Colors looking good but TKL Satisfaction75

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #13 on: Mon, 08 February 2021, 21:04:05 »
Overall feels uninspired.  Hopefully your prototype does more justice then the renders do.

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #14 on: Mon, 08 February 2021, 21:06:08 »
what was the listed price point before the post was edited?

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #15 on: Mon, 08 February 2021, 21:15:55 »
what was the listed price point before the post was edited?

2 dollars  ;D

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #16 on: Mon, 08 February 2021, 22:06:21 »
Interesting...going to wait to read this when it's more thought-out with better renders before I judge this and call it a tkl satisfaction.
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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #17 on: Mon, 08 February 2021, 22:11:03 »

Offline oathsworn

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #18 on: Tue, 09 February 2021, 01:01:02 »
Interested, would def be on one of my to cop lists if it's hotswap and usb isn't in the center ^-^

Offline Toriaki

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #19 on: Tue, 09 February 2021, 02:38:24 »
A TKL Sat75

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Fair enough, but the point was actually to remove the same keys that were replaced with the encoder and OLED.
Thank you for your feedback.

Offline Toriaki

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #20 on: Tue, 09 February 2021, 02:39:22 »
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kinda sus

Brass bottom has been ejected.

Offline Toriaki

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #21 on: Tue, 09 February 2021, 02:40:50 »
this is a TKL, looks interesting especially with that price point

Thank you very much, kind sir.
Has you probably have already read, we might have had a couple of premature points featured, but we'll keep in touch.

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #22 on: Tue, 09 February 2021, 02:41:33 »
i see tkl im interested

But need to see proto

We hope to speak to you soon, gentleman!

Offline Toriaki

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #23 on: Tue, 09 February 2021, 02:42:35 »
Ne screws avail?

Very interested to see if you can hit that price point

Yep, we should have worked a little better on the details, mostly a detail that holds the whole board 😂
We'll get in touch and keep this thread updated.
Thank you for your interest.

Offline Toriaki

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #24 on: Tue, 09 February 2021, 02:44:03 »
looks like it needs to be ironed out a bit, but the tkl with knob + oled there has been on the mind for a while, good idea - not many people typically use those three keys anyway

Yes, after the feedback we've been getting, we sure will change things and improve the existing concept.
The knob and oled were added exactly for that reason, as far as I know, there aren't a lot of people using those top keys.
Thank you for your coment!

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #25 on: Tue, 09 February 2021, 02:46:48 »
How are you getting this board's pricepoint so low?

We were working with some quotes we got but it was a bit premature to advance with those prices, since we were not considering some factors. (That's why the price tags were removed).
Still, we'll do our best not to go up a lot regarding that matter.

Thank you for your feedback!

Offline Toriaki

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #26 on: Tue, 09 February 2021, 02:53:37 »
I think it is best to go back to the drawing board with this and come back with a more flushed out idea.
For starters, just after looking at your renders you don't seem to have actually implemented any screws into the design. As a big FYI here, you need screws to put the board together, unless you're thinking of magnets, which won't be able to hold that massive bottom together with the case top.
(Also haven't seen a USB port in any of the renders - but I am going to give the benefit of the doubt in that it is somewhere on the rear of the case top that we just can't see from the render angles provided)

For the flex cut in your plate, I would suggest moving the top most cut above row 3 rather than keeping it below, as not doing so can result in pretty inconsistent flex - this isn't me just talking out of my ass, but out of experience testing flex cut positioning on a range of formfactors.

In regards to your estimated pricing, I implore you to just delete that section right now. You evidently have no clue how much these units will cost as you put a mere 40 euro price difference between a brass bottom vs alu bottom board, in which just by looking at the design, that would be massive f*cking piece of brass. Estimated prices are generally better once you have a good idea as to what your board would cost to machine plus hardware/packaging/PCBs/etc.

There are a few things that I personally am not fond of with this design, but that is not my place to say.

Please take this back to the drawing board and spend some more time on this project to push it in the right direction.
GLWIC

Kind sir, thank you a lot for your comment. To me, this is the most constructive feedback we're gotten so far.
You are right in so many levels.
We'll get back to you on the plate matter, if you don't mind giving a little hand.
Yes, the screws are missing, even though we're doing our best to keep as many hidden as we possibly can (we probably can't go as far as getting no screws visible, but we sure we'll try).
And you're right, the usb port is on the top left, and also hidden in renders.
Regarding the biggest issue you addressed, the pricing, we were working with some quotes we were given, including packaging, all the metal parts, CNCing, etc, etc, but it has come to our attention that we forgot a couple variables on the equation and therefore, thank you for imploring us to delete the price 😂

We will take the board for a "couple of rides" before updating you guys on it and hopefully we'll have some protos soon.

Thank you very much for your comment, it was an eye opener in so many ways and you gives us the will to continue improving until we find a sweetspot for the most part.

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #27 on: Tue, 09 February 2021, 02:55:36 »
Overall feels uninspired.  Hopefully your prototype does more justice then the renders do.

Thank you for your comment!

Is that because it resembles the Satisfaction board?
That was not the point, our only goal was to remove the top keys with something we considered more functional.

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #28 on: Tue, 09 February 2021, 02:57:21 »
Interesting...going to wait to read this when it's more thought-out with better renders before I judge this and call it a tkl satisfaction.

Thank you for your feedback.

We'll get back to you, hopefully with something you guys don't address directly to satisfaction, because that wasn't the point at all.

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #29 on: Tue, 09 February 2021, 02:58:13 »
Interested, would def be on one of my to cop lists if it's hotswap and usb isn't in the center ^-^

Thank you for your comment!

We're looking forward to make improvements and get back to you guys!

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #30 on: Tue, 09 February 2021, 02:58:53 »
Looking forward to seeing the protos! Like the layout, rarely use the 3 keys the knob/panel replace.

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #31 on: Tue, 09 February 2021, 03:10:48 »
Looking forward to seeing the protos! Like the layout, rarely use the 3 keys the knob/panel replace.

Thank you!
It was for that exact reason we added the knob and the oled, to get a bit more fuctionality on the board.

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #32 on: Tue, 09 February 2021, 03:48:38 »
I've been following the development of this project closely and before the IC was posted.

It does look promising and hopefully, by producing the prototype, the maker can learn and iron out a lot of the concerns showcased here. If anything it will be a great learning experience.

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #33 on: Tue, 09 February 2021, 05:19:36 »
I've been following the development of this project closely and before the IC was posted.

It does look promising and hopefully, by producing the prototype, the maker can learn and iron out a lot of the concerns showcased here. If anything it will be a great learning experience.

Thank you for your kind words! <3
Exactly our thoughts!

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #34 on: Tue, 09 February 2021, 05:43:54 »
Technically not a TKL, soooo...kinda sus. 

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #35 on: Tue, 09 February 2021, 05:59:03 »
Technically not a TKL, soooo...kinda sus.

Are we really going that way? 😂

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #36 on: Tue, 09 February 2021, 06:14:49 »

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #37 on: Tue, 09 February 2021, 06:41:02 »
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kinda sus

Brass bottom has been ejected.

What?

Well, I guess it was a bad reference if you didn't get it 😐
« Last Edit: Tue, 09 February 2021, 06:43:38 by Toriaki »

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #38 on: Tue, 09 February 2021, 10:38:52 »
How much would you anticipate this to weigh?

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #39 on: Tue, 09 February 2021, 10:41:06 »
Oled and knob im in.

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #40 on: Tue, 09 February 2021, 11:35:12 »
How much would you anticipate this to weigh?

According to the CAD software, about 3kg (or around 6.6lbs), which is not light at all, but we thing it'll pay off.

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #42 on: Wed, 10 February 2021, 04:04:34 »
observing this topic :D

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #44 on: Wed, 10 February 2021, 04:28:25 »
looking great, eager to see the next developments  :thumb:
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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #45 on: Wed, 10 February 2021, 04:29:17 »
looking great, eager to see the next developments  :thumb:

Thank you very much, Mr. Prelim. <3

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #46 on: Wed, 10 February 2021, 05:11:10 »
newspaper

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #47 on: Wed, 10 February 2021, 05:53:20 »
newspaper

Not a spoon then. I like it.
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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #48 on: Wed, 10 February 2021, 13:02:50 »
Great placement on the Oled and knob. Looking forward to more updates.

Offline Toriaki

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Re: [IC] Keeblast TKL
« Reply #49 on: Wed, 10 February 2021, 13:04:16 »
Great placement on the Oled and knob. Looking forward to more updates.

Thank you! Looking forward to giving you guys updates soon!