[IC] JDA The Moon (2021/03/25 Group buy concluded, manufacturing soon)

[keebs.io]

(Circle of life ------- Mahāyāna ghana-vyūha-sūtra)

JDA The Moon

This set is inspired by different colors of the moon and the night sky. Due to Covid lockdown, the moon has become my best friend at night and I wanted to create something for her.

Keycap Specs

- JDA Profile - Drunken Ink Manufactured
- Designed by Southheart
- Dyesub PBT Plastic
- Set contains 163 keycaps and include regular Base and Novelties
- MX compatible

What's included


- 163 JDA Profile Keycaps
- Premium ABS keycap organizer with 2 trays
- Drunken Ink Package Box


Pricing


$109.99 (USD)


Shipping


- ETA: May - June 2021
- Carrier: DHL Express (shipping directly from manufacture)
- Shipping Cost: North America: 40 USD; Europe: 30 USD;  Asia: 25 USD; Australia/New Zealand: 30 USD;


Vendor

Click link below to visit groupbuy link:


Themed Kits

This keycap set is selling as a big Base Kit, which includes regular Base and Novelties.

We have following 3 color themes to choose from:

1. Blue Moon (Moon icons in gold color)
We lose ourselves in the dance of the moon, the darkening sky.



2. Blood Moon (Latin in gold color)
Heavy is the moon with blood, crimson in a sky full of black.


3. White Moon (Latin in gold color)
The moon is a friend for the lonesome to talk to.


Sound Test

JDA Samples

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While waiting for complete "The Moon" set to be made, here are some sample pictures we collected from our designer. These samples are taken under 5700K light:




This color matching keys are using JDA R4 height:





We also purchased a in-stock JDA keycap set to show you the quality of Drunken Ink's JDA keycap sets.

This set is the very first JDA keycap set, called "Singular". Consist of 128 JDA Keycaps with 6.25U spacebar. Using 5-side Dyesub on JDA Profile PBT keycaps. Retail for around 499(CNY) =~ 77(USD). Keycaps and Storage Box together is around 0.9KG or 2lbs (in case you wonder, shipping for this set to US is 359 CNY =~ 55USD using UPS).







For comparison, we took pictures with GMK 8008 on the side.

"Insert":



"Q":



JDA Singular (LEFT) and GMK 8008 (RIGHT):




Back and side of keycaps:






Every keycap's Row Number and Size are also molded on the back of the keycap, which makes installation easier.

Spacebar:





Profile comparison:



JDA is Drunken Ink's most premium line of keycap with highest quality overall. All JDA Keycap set come with a ABS Keycap Organizer with two trays. Here are some additional pictures about JDA's packaging:

Renders

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Accessories - Deskmat

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White Moon Version:


Blood Moon Version:

IC Form



Updates

03/25/21

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1. GB on ClickClack.io concluded with 199 sets.
2. We are looking to start manufacturing JDA The Moon on around March 30th.
3. All 3 color ways' complete sample will be made before mass production. Designer will be on site to make sure it meets our design.
4. We are building our brand-new ClickClack.io. Our next release will be on our new website.

03/10/21 GB will end early, we will cover custom duty and in-stock sale

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1. We will cover custom duty:
All the orders will be shipped from our shipping partner to you directly. We reimburse custom duty for all orders. If you are imposed with custom duty for your order, you can submit your custom duty documents to support@keebs.io for us to review. We will refund duty amount to back to your original payment method.
2. Group Buy Ending will be closed on 03/15/2021:
We currently have around 500 orders globally. All orders will be manufactured together. According to our designer, “The Moon” sets are scheduled to be produced around end of March. In order for us to deliver “The Moon” on time, we will need to finalize our order numbers by mid March. Therefore, Group Buy will be closed one week early and on 03/15/2021. We sincerely apologize for changing our Group Buy Schedule!
3. In-Stock sale after fulfillment:
After Group Buy order fulfillment and defect fixes, we will host in-stock sale if there are extras left.
4. PayPal:
We are actively working with PayPal to expedite the review process for our business account. However, we don’t have an ETA on when our business account will be ready. So we won’t be able to support PayPal payment for JDA the Moon GB.

03/08/21 Arrow Key will use directional crescent legend as shown on set render picture

2021/03/03 New Domain/Name, production updates, spacebar sizes

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1. We sincerely appreciate you guys' feedback on our domain name, we have purchased a new domain called: ClickClark.io . We will make it official when we have our new logo ready! And of course, we will make our website better!
2. Regarding sampling and manufacturing process, Drunken Ink is working on new PBT moldings for 7U, 3U, 2.75U spacebars and that will finish around March 10th. Our The Moon is the second JDA set on production pipeline.
3. Regarding Space Bar Sizes in "The Moon", there will be: 7U, 6.25U, 3U, 2.75U

2021/02/21 update 2 - new GB price

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Hi all, thank you for the feedback about the confusion around international shipping fees. To make things clear, we will no longer include fixed shipping fee in the price. As a result, the GB price for The Moon will be $109.99 plus shipping that will depend on the destination.

2021/02/21 update 1 - cost breakdown

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Hey guys, first of all, we are really really grateful for all the upvotes and support! To be super transparent here:
1. keebs.io discovers talented indie keeb designers and brings their products to international market at a fair price. We are officially authorized by the designers we partner with to sell abroad. You can buy our products either on Taobao or keebs.io.
2. To address the comments regarding Taobao price. Before opening IC internationally, we did a trial run in China. $40 was the deposit required to join the GB and eventually the price was set at about $80. We ended up breaking even. Once the trial run has ended we kept getting requests to go for a second run internationally, so here we are doing a global GB.
3. Based on our trial in China, when going internationally we had to set the price to $150 to account for international shipping, customs, tax, storage, credit card transaction fee, insurance, foreign currency exchange fee. $150 = $80 (trial run price) + $40 (shipping, customs, tax) + $10 ( credit card transaction fee, insurance, foreign currency exchange fee) + $20 (keebs.io markup)
We want to apologize for the confusion and please keep the feedback and questions coming! We will try our best to answer them!

02/20/21 Groupbuy Information

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- Groupbuy time: 5PM EST on Feb, 26th, 2021 - Mar, 22nd, 2021
- Where: https://keebs.io/products/jda-the-moon
- Price: $109.99 (USD) + shipping
- Ship Time: May-June 2021

02/18/21 Arrow Key will use regular crescent legend

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Based on feedbacks from y'all, we will replace directional crescent arrow keys with regular crescent legend. Appreciate the feedbacks!

FAQ

1. What is JDA Profile?

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JDA is slightly higher than Cherry, roughly the same as OEM, and nowhere close to SA.
Also, based on our experience, the curve fits the fingers better. Silky texture.
We know that it’s a rather new profile indeed, but overall we are really happy with the quality and we are very excited to share it with you all!

JDA Spec:
- Height similar to OEM
- Sculpted
- Spherical Top


^ JDA Height Comparison


^ JDA Profile Height Data Sheet from manufacture



^ Color matching and key sample

2. Can I buy different kit separately?

No, this set's manufacturer Drunken Ink does not support that.

3. No, we have nothing to do with keeb.io

We also have The Moon Themed Keyboard Kit coming soon

[Chippy]

The moonphase numrow is really cool...but I'm with Sam on this one.

[SxM Designs]

First time I have heard of this profile.
Are these dye sub ? More info pls.

[Rafa_n]

keebs.io doesn't even exist bro

[Amnestey]

Put me down for a Set#3 if this happens I love the colors and the theme

[DrHigsby]

Can you please provide more information about the JDA profile. Who is the manufacturer? What other sets have run in this profile? How does it compare with DSS (it looks remarkably similar to DSS, which is conveniently not in the side profile view)?

Edit: Are you affiliated with Keeb.io? If not, that's going to be only mildly confusing.

[Alejo1707]

Man I really like the color scheme, but 2 things:
* Provide more information on the JDA profile as mentioned by other users

* The Keebs.io name worries me, for it looks like you are trying to cash by using a well known name. Put a disclaimer.

Other than that, I dig the color scheme and unless I missed something, it looks like a well thought set.

Sent from my GM1917 using Tapatalk

[SleepyJacky]

Would like more info on JDA as well — but man those novelties are very well done.

[DALExSNAIL]

Looks like bananas

[darthcapn]

Devnagri sublegend on this would look dope!!

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[Emonadeo]

Can underline most things other people have said. But, I personally really like the theme, I just feel like the legends/novelties could be refined a bit. Other than that I have never heard of the JDA profile but from what I can tell by the pictures that profile looks really great; it's nice and flat like cherry, but with spherical tops and overall aesthetically more pleasing in terms of shape. Would love to try this profile out, whoever is manufacturing that, lol.

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[Bub]

Not only is an in-depth explanation behind the JDA profile necessary, but you need to provide ample details about the manufacturer. Nothing comes up when I google "drunken ink keycaps" and that makes me feel like this is a scam. Honestly I think the set looks good, but it doesn't matter in this case...

[keebs.io]

First time I have heard of this profile.
Are these dye sub ? More info pls.

Right, these are dyesub PBT. We have gone through the color matching phase with the manufacturer, they look really good.

[keebs.io]

keebs.io doesn't even exist bro

lol, thanks for the reminder bro, our developer was high and didn't realize the site went down. It's back up now, check it out. We are a small shop, so sorry for the ****ty site, will make it better, promise.

[keebs.io]

Put me down for a Set#3 if this happens I love the colors and the theme

love you, fam. Feel free to join our Discord and ask more questions there.

[Ustinj]

I like the idea of the first set. Looks like you included two identical spacebars though, so I'm assuming 3u spacebars. Not having 2.75u and 2.25u is a bad bad move.

edit: sketch

[saintnoodle]

I'll chime in with some quick thoughts. I'm not that big of a fan of the crescent alphas but the regular alphas it works well. I like the colour schemes, hard preference on the blue one for me. I think the novs are pretty artistic, I appreciate that. I don't like the deskmats at all; but it is hard to get me to like a deskmat, that's just the way it is. My main gripe really is the arrow keys. I can see in some of the renders that regular arrows existed at one point, and honestly I prefer those over the directional crescents. The profile looks really interesting and I'd love to know more about the manufacturer and whether this is their first outing or if they've made caps before and I'd like to know their process. Overall, this is a pretty promising set with a clean aesthetic and an artistic theme.

[Al3417]

Nice to see a JDA profile IC on Geekhack. The reasons why you guys had never heard about it might because all the IC were posted on Zfrontier.com. So basically JDA profile was originated from a manufacturer that only produces PBT keycaps sells to the Chinese customize keyboard market; while it got some own original design sets, it recently starts open up to us and collect orders from designers. If I remember it correctly, JDA got four finished and shipped GB up till now, including JDA EVANGELION 00, designed by Rifen (who also designed JTK Suited Assassin and Nightsakura).
I got “JDA Singularity” last month, and judging from my usage experience, I think the set is very economical and perfect in quality too.  I recommend this if ur a Cherry profile lover; it’s about the same height as Cherry, but the increased contact surface REALLY comforts my finger. Guess keebs.io will soon provide more in-depth info behind the profile once he checked in with the manufacturer.

[saintnoodle]

Nice to see a JDA profile IC on Geekhack. The reasons why you guys had never heard about it might because all the IC were posted on Zfrontier.com. So basically JDA profile was originated from a manufacturer that only produces PBT keycaps sells to the Chinese customize keyboard market; while it got some own original design sets, it recently starts open up to us and collect orders from designers. If I remember it correctly, JDA got four finished and shipped GB up till now, including JDA EVANGELION 00, designed by Rifen (who also designed JTK Suited Assassin and Nightsakura).
I got “JDA Singularity” last month, and judging from my usage experience, I think the set is very economical and perfect in quality too.  I recommend this if ur a Cherry profile lover; it’s about the same height as Cherry, but the increased contact surface REALLY comforts my finger. Guess keebs.io will soon provide more in-depth info behind the profile once he checked in with the manufacturer.

Sounds promising!

[lllchevy350lll]

would REALLY like to see a render with the moon legends in the red colorway. and i agree with what was stated above; the directional crescents on the arrow keys is a no go for me.

[HelloThisIsDog]

I loved KAT iron but I might like this even more, the gradients are so elegant. Hope everything goes well! And agree with above posters that directional legends are a bit much.

[Extra Fox]

lol, thanks for the reminder bro, our developer was high and didn't realize the site went down. It's back up now, check it out. We are a small shop, so sorry for the ****ty site, will make it better, promise.

I do believe this is the best possible answer you could have given.

[keebs.io]

Can you please provide more information about the JDA profile. Who is the manufacturer? What other sets have run in this profile? How does it compare with DSS (it looks remarkably similar to DSS, which is conveniently not in the side profile view)?

Edit: Are you affiliated with Keeb.io? If not, that's going to be only mildly confusing.

Would like more info on JDA as well — but man those novelties are very well done.

Not only is an in-depth explanation behind the JDA profile necessary, but you need to provide ample details about the manufacturer. Nothing comes up when I google "drunken ink keycaps" and that makes me feel like this is a scam. Honestly I think the set looks good, but it doesn't matter in this case...

Man I really like the color scheme, but 2 things:
* Provide more information on the JDA profile as mentioned by other users

* The Keebs.io name worries me, for it looks like you are trying to cash by using a well known name. Put a disclaimer.

Other than that, I dig the color scheme and unless I missed something, it looks like a well thought set.

Sent from my GM1917 using Tapatalk

First time I have heard of this profile.
Are these dye sub ? More info pls.

Can underline most things other people have said. But, I personally really like the theme, I just feel like the legends/novelties could be refined a bit. Other than that I have never heard of the JDA profile but from what I can tell by the pictures that profile looks really great; it's nice and flat like cherry, but with spherical tops and overall aesthetically more pleasing in terms of shape. Would love to try this profile out, whoever is manufacturing that, lol.

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I'll chime in with some quick thoughts. I'm not that big of a fan of the crescent alphas but the regular alphas it works well. I like the colour schemes, hard preference on the blue one for me. I think the novs are pretty artistic, I appreciate that. I don't like the deskmats at all; but it is hard to get me to like a deskmat, that's just the way it is. My main gripe really is the arrow keys. I can see in some of the renders that regular arrows existed at one point, and honestly I prefer those over the directional crescents. The profile looks really interesting and I'd love to know more about the manufacturer and whether this is their first outing or if they've made caps before and I'd like to know their process. Overall, this is a pretty promising set with a clean aesthetic and an artistic theme.

Thanks guys for sharing your feedbacks, we just updated the post with more information on JDA including the detailed sizing. Overall, JDA is slightly higher than Cherry, roughly the same as OEM, and nowhere close to SA. Based on our experience, the curve fits the fingers better. It has a silky texture to it. We know it’s a rather new profile indeed, but overall we are really happy with the quality and very excited to share it with you all.

[keebs.io]

would REALLY like to see a render with the moon legends in the red colorway. and i agree with what was stated above; the directional crescents on the arrow keys is a no go for me.

I'll chime in with some quick thoughts. I'm not that big of a fan of the crescent alphas but the regular alphas it works well. I like the colour schemes, hard preference on the blue one for me. I think the novs are pretty artistic, I appreciate that. I don't like the deskmats at all; but it is hard to get me to like a deskmat, that's just the way it is. My main gripe really is the arrow keys. I can see in some of the renders that regular arrows existed at one point, and honestly I prefer those over the directional crescents. The profile looks really interesting and I'd love to know more about the manufacturer and whether this is their first outing or if they've made caps before and I'd like to know their process. Overall, this is a pretty promising set with a clean aesthetic and an artistic theme.

I loved KAT iron but I might like this even more, the gradients are so elegant. Hope everything goes well! And agree with above posters that directional legends are a bit much.

Guys, thanks for the feedback. We will remove directional crescents all together and replace them with regular crescents. Feel free to provide more feedbacks here or in the IC forms!

[keebs.io]

Nice to see a JDA profile IC on Geekhack. The reasons why you guys had never heard about it might because all the IC were posted on Zfrontier.com. So basically JDA profile was originated from a manufacturer that only produces PBT keycaps sells to the Chinese customize keyboard market; while it got some own original design sets, it recently starts open up to us and collect orders from designers. If I remember it correctly, JDA got four finished and shipped GB up till now, including JDA EVANGELION 00, designed by Rifen (who also designed JTK Suited Assassin and Nightsakura).
I got “JDA Singularity” last month, and judging from my usage experience, I think the set is very economical and perfect in quality too.  I recommend this if ur a Cherry profile lover; it’s about the same height as Cherry, but the increased contact surface REALLY comforts my finger. Guess keebs.io will soon provide more in-depth info behind the profile once he checked in with the manufacturer.

Legend

[keebs.io]

Can you please provide more information about the JDA profile. Who is the manufacturer? What other sets have run in this profile? How does it compare with DSS (it looks remarkably similar to DSS, which is conveniently not in the side profile view)?

Edit: Are you affiliated with Keeb.io? If not, that's going to be only mildly confusing.

Man I really like the color scheme, but 2 things:
* Provide more information on the JDA profile as mentioned by other users

* The Keebs.io name worries me, for it looks like you are trying to cash by using a well known name. Put a disclaimer.

Other than that, I dig the color scheme and unless I missed something, it looks like a well thought set.

Sent from my GM1917 using Tapatalk

We have nothing to do with keeb.io and just included the disclaimer in Q&A, thanks for the feedback! Happy to answer any other questions.

[Rx003]

its aaaaa aight legit what I said , but wish you all the best with this good luck! 

[eskimojo]

I'm interested in the profile, it seems like a cross between KAT and DSS. The design is pretty nice too.

Any plans to get regional proxies? Personally I'd really appreciate a UK proxy - I recommend protoTypist.

[keebs.io]

I'm interested in the profile, it seems like a cross between KAT and DSS. The design is pretty nice too.

Any plans to get regional proxies? Personally I'd really appreciate a UK proxy - I recommend protoTypist.

For now, we will probably stick to our manufacturer in Asia and ship to other regions. In future, we will definitely consider regional proxies, thanks for the feedback!

[Adqam64]

We have nothing to do with keeb.io...

Then why did you choose a name that was different to their name by only an s?  Given that this community runs largely on goodwill this seems to be a misstep.

[Drakenocas]

This probably one of the aesthetically appealing themed kits that I have seen in a bit.  I want one.

[nvh2092]

I'm interested in the profile, it seems like a cross between KAT and DSS. The design is pretty nice too.

Any plans to get regional proxies? Personally I'd really appreciate a UK proxy - I recommend protoTypist.

For now, we will probably stick to our manufacturer in Asia and ship to other regions. In future, we will definitely consider regional proxies, thanks for the feedback!

Tax will scare people away, you know that, right?

[keebs.io]

I'm interested in the profile, it seems like a cross between KAT and DSS. The design is pretty nice too.

Any plans to get regional proxies? Personally I'd really appreciate a UK proxy - I recommend protoTypist.

For now, we will probably stick to our manufacturer in Asia and ship to other regions. In future, we will definitely consider regional proxies, thanks for the feedback!

Tax will scare people away, you know that, right?

Nah, we will take care of the tax.

[niakulah]

I think it's bad enough that a lot of sets put ÷ for numpad /, but % is just wrong...

[Taverius]

Best of luck with this.

Not my kinda colorway, but more success for shorter spherical sculpted profiles is always a win in my book

[see]

[Edited post - original post breaks the rules as I interpret them]

I'd just like to point out that this set ran in China beforehand for 40 USD 80 USD.

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=636732383465

Vote with your wallets.

[bow3i]

my finest creation, dropshipping taobao keycap sets, very nice very good

[nathanchere]

Love the blue moon design! Is there any rough estimate what turnaround time would be with this manufacturer? I'm fine with trying out new options but not so much if it is going to be yet another group buy with lead times of a year or more

[spikedsynapse]

I am going to register Omnitypes.com and sell taobao sets at 4x the price...

[Ravenoxidal]

Always nice to see a different profile for us to try. One thing about this, is the price. 150usd? That's really steep. Also, I hope you have a good explanation for what the others have said above, if it's really 80usd, 150usd is a huge markup. And what's with the choice of the name too? Didn't look like you've put much thought into it. And with this IC being the first post too, seems kinda sus. Hope you can shed some light.

[Hugs94]

Lmao taobao reselling. Classic sub 20 post user. https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=636732383465.
Can get this for so much cheaper. All these new users thinking they can make a quick buck. Pathetic.

[bubbletea]

He must be working with/or is the original taobao seller.

The set has now been jacked up in price on taobao to 899 to reflect the "130 bucks" price.

But we all know this one was priced at 528 yuan before this IC.

[candravamsa]

I really love this set but the sketchy vibes are through the roof at the moment.

First strike was:

lol, thanks for the reminder bro, our developer was high and didn't realize the site went down. It's back up now, check it out. We are a small shop, so sorry for the ****ty site, will make it better, promise.

I have nothing against smoking weed however statements like this aren't exactly faith inspiring in the decision making and discretion of someone that would be taking thousands of dollars from strangers.

A super derivative (and frankly lazy) company name like Keebs.io.

Now the IMMEDIATE upsell of an already produced set...

I'm out.

[keebs.io]

[Edited post - original post breaks the rules as I interpret them]

I'd just like to point out that this set ran in China beforehand for 40 USD 80 USD.

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=636732383465

Vote with your wallets.

Lmao taobao reselling. Classic sub 20 post user. https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=636732383465.
Can get this for so much cheaper. All these new users thinking they can make a quick buck. Pathetic.

I really love this set but the sketchy vibes are through the roof at the moment.

First strike was:

lol, thanks for the reminder bro, our developer was high and didn't realize the site went down. It's back up now, check it out. We are a small shop, so sorry for the ****ty site, will make it better, promise.

I have nothing against smoking weed however statements like this aren't exactly faith inspiring in the decision making and discretion of someone that would be taking thousands of dollars from strangers.

A super derivative (and frankly lazy) company name like Keebs.io.

Now the IMMEDIATE upsell of an already produced set...

I'm out.

Always nice to see a different profile for us to try. One thing about this, is the price. 150usd? That's really steep. Also, I hope you have a good explanation for what the others have said above, if it's really 80usd, 150usd is a huge markup. And what's with the choice of the name too? Didn't look like you've put much thought into it. And with this IC being the first post too, seems kinda sus. Hope you can shed some light.

He must be working with/or is the original taobao seller.

The set has now been jacked up in price on taobao to 899 to reflect the "130 bucks" price.

But we all know this one was priced at 528 yuan before this IC.

Hey guys, first of all, we are really grateful for all the support and good vibes! To be super transparent here:

1. keebs.io discovers talented indie keeb designers and brings their products to international market at a fair price. We are officially authorized by the designers we partner with to sell abroad. You can buy our products either on Taobao or keebs.io.

2. To address the comments regarding Taobao price. Before opening IC internationally, we did a trial run in China. $40 was the deposit required to join the GB and eventually the price was set at about $80. We ended up breaking even. Once the trial run has ended we kept getting requests to go for a second run internationally, so here we are doing a global GB.

3. Based on our trial in China, when going internationally we had to set the price to $150 to account for international shipping, customs, tax, storage, credit card transaction fee, insurance, foreign currency exchange fee. $150 = $80 (trial run price) + $40 (shipping, customs, tax) + $10 ( credit card transaction fee, insurance, foreign currency exchange fee) + $20 (keebs.io markup)

TLDR: $149.99 (USD) includes shipping, tax to anywhere in the world

We want to apologize for the confusion and please keep the feedback and questions coming! We will try our best to answer them!

Again, you can find us directly on our Discord.

[acitrin]

Hey guys, first of all, we are really grateful for all the support and good vibes! To be super transparent here:

1. keebs.io discovers talented indie keeb designers and brings their products to international market at a fair price. We are officially authorized by the designers we partner with to sell abroad. You can buy our products either on Taobao or keebs.io.

2. To address the comments regarding Taobao price. Before opening IC internationally, we did a trial run in China. $40 was the deposit required to join the GB and eventually the price was set at about $80. We ended up breaking even. Once the trial run has ended we kept getting requests to go for a second run internationally, so here we are doing a global GB.

3. Based on our trial in China, when going internationally we had to set the price to $150 to account for international shipping, customs, tax, storage, credit card transaction fee, insurance, foreign currency exchange fee. $150 = $80 (trial run price) + $40 (shipping, customs, tax) + $10 ( credit card transaction fee, insurance, foreign currency exchange fee) + $20 (keebs.io markup)

TLDR: $149.99 (USD) includes shipping, tax to anywhere in the world

We want to apologize for the confusion and please keep the feedback and questions coming! We will try our best to answer them!

Again, you can find us directly on our Discord.

Hey!

I'd be curious... how did that price breakdown change to get to $110 from $150? Where did the $40 come from?

[keebs.io]

Hey guys, first of all, we are really grateful for all the support and good vibes! To be super transparent here:

1. keebs.io discovers talented indie keeb designers and brings their products to international market at a fair price. We are officially authorized by the designers we partner with to sell abroad. You can buy our products either on Taobao or keebs.io.

2. To address the comments regarding Taobao price. Before opening IC internationally, we did a trial run in China. $40 was the deposit required to join the GB and eventually the price was set at about $80. We ended up breaking even. Once the trial run has ended we kept getting requests to go for a second run internationally, so here we are doing a global GB.

3. Based on our trial in China, when going internationally we had to set the price to $150 to account for international shipping, customs, tax, storage, credit card transaction fee, insurance, foreign currency exchange fee. $150 = $80 (trial run price) + $40 (shipping, customs, tax) + $10 ( credit card transaction fee, insurance, foreign currency exchange fee) + $20 (keebs.io markup)

TLDR: $149.99 (USD) includes shipping, tax to anywhere in the world

We want to apologize for the confusion and please keep the feedback and questions coming! We will try our best to answer them!

Again, you can find us directly on our Discord.

Hey!

I'd be curious... how did that price breakdown change to get to $110 from $150? Where did the $40 come from?

Thanks for your interest!

As we mentioned in our updates:

2021/02/21 update 2 - new GB price

Hi all, thank you for the feedback about the confusion around international shipping fees. To make things clear, we will no longer include fixed shipping fee in the price. As a result, the GB price for The Moon will be $109.99 plus shipping that will depend on the destination.

[atlanticise]

If this set has already run and you're producing more after this round of GB, please consider redoing the text legends. I would actually consider purchasing this if the "CapsLock" had a space so it's "Caps Lock". Also, the crescent moon shape beside every mod legend somehow just seems way too close to me, visually. Make the text smaller and give it room to breathe, especially for Tab and Shift.

The font size on the stepped caps is also way bigger than all the other mods. It's kind of jarring.

I also am really uncomfortable with the name you're choosing to operate with. Wouldn't you prefer to choose something much less similar to keeb.io and make an original brand for yourself?

Please don't be offended by my comments. I actually like the idea, am interested in the profile, and like the gradient as well. If the China GB has already happened, do show us some real life pictures, that would be very helpful to this IC.

[KambingSuSu]

I am going to register Omnitypes.com and sell taobao sets at 4x the price...

If this set has already run and you're producing more after this round of GB, please consider redoing the text legends. I would actually consider purchasing this if the "CapsLock" had a space so it's "Caps Lock". Also, the crescent moon shape beside every mod legend somehow just seems way too close to me, visually. Make the text smaller and give it room to breathe, especially for Tab and Shift.

The font size on the stepped caps is also way bigger than all the other mods. It's kind of jarring.

I also am really uncomfortable with the name you're choosing to operate with. Wouldn't you prefer to choose something much less similar to keeb.io and make an original brand for yourself?

Please don't be offended by my comments. I actually like the idea, am interested in the profile, and like the gradient as well. If the China GB has already happened, do show us some real life pictures, that would be very helpful to this IC.

I really love this set but the sketchy vibes are through the roof at the moment.

First strike was:

lol, thanks for the reminder bro, our developer was high and didn't realize the site went down. It's back up now, check it out. We are a small shop, so sorry for the ****ty site, will make it better, promise.

I have nothing against smoking weed however statements like this aren't exactly faith inspiring in the decision making and discretion of someone that would be taking thousands of dollars from strangers.

A super derivative (and frankly lazy) company name like Keebs.io.

Now the IMMEDIATE upsell of an already produced set...

I'm out.

Can you please provide more information about the JDA profile. Who is the manufacturer? What other sets have run in this profile? How does it compare with DSS (it looks remarkably similar to DSS, which is conveniently not in the side profile view)?

Edit: Are you affiliated with Keeb.io? If not, that's going to be only mildly confusing.

Man I really like the color scheme, but 2 things:
* Provide more information on the JDA profile as mentioned by other users

* The Keebs.io name worries me, for it looks like you are trying to cash by using a well known name. Put a disclaimer.

Other than that, I dig the color scheme and unless I missed something, it looks like a well thought set.

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We have nothing to do with keeb.io and just included the disclaimer in Q&A, thanks for the feedback! Happy to answer any other questions.

[Change the name of your site. Keeb.io has been around for so long, having such a similar name is just frankly in bad taste. It's like those sites that uses mispelled porn sites to....

Trying to run a group buy that standardise shipping prices worldwide was always gonna be a bad idea, glad for the change.

1. keebs.io discovers talented indie keeb designers and brings their products to international market at a fair price. We are officially authorized by the designers we partner with to sell abroad. You can buy our products either on Taobao or keebs.io.

Such an odd motherhood statement. But great to see CN based designers being helped to bring their boards to the broader market(if it ever happens). Would help to lower the exorbitant prices that cash-grabbers think they can charge as well.

How thick are the caps? I ain't paying a 100 for paper thin caps.

White Moon - f-row is unreadable. Hope that the gold really pops in the actual set.

Kitting
No alice support i presume. No extra B, but spacebars has 7U space, 3U space, 2x 2.75 spaces. Guess this allows for split spacebars.
Novelties feels kinda half-assed? Could just drop it, or expand the kit abit more. Here, have ONE 1.25u of design A, and ONE 1.25u of design B. Giving 2 of each design would be much better for symmetry.
 
Like the profile, hate the fonts. I hate it. It's thin, the alphas dont match the mods, the numpad is somehow smaller in size than the alphas, and it looks so close to the corners. Will it look like the OEM caps?

[nvh2092]

Why don't you just find regional vendors?

[Bobatype]

Dramas aside, I appreciate that it's quite a unique design, with a creative execution of the theme, with evident effort and thought given to the icon mods and novelties. I also appreciate you taking the time to answer various concerns by other members of the community, and hope you can feedback to the original designer,  further areas of improvement that can be done with the legends that several ppl have mentioned. i.e. Caps Lock instead of Capslock. Suggest changing from 'Win' to 'Sys' term as well.
Not the biggest fan of all-in-one kitting either.

Also are there any renders of the deskmat design with the keyset? I'd like to see how it complements the set as a whole.
I'm also worried about banding issues with that gradient in the picture you've shown in the post.

I also am really uncomfortable with the name you're choosing to operate with. Wouldn't you prefer to choose something much less similar to keeb.io and make an original brand for yourself?

Please don't be offended by my comments. I actually like the idea, am interested in the profile, and like the gradient as well. If the China GB has already happened, do show us some real life pictures, that would be very helpful to this IC.

+1 to the above. If this set/profile has already ran before, then photos of prior products will allay people's concerns about the quality of a profile/manufacturer that people here are unfamiliar with. I appreciate the few photos of colour matched sample, but those are blanks- are there any other sample keycaps with the legends on them, so we can see how that contrast and clarity looks? Photos of the underside /thickness of caps will also be appreciated by others here too.

[eskimojo]

Agreed, pictures of previous runs would be great.

I found this zfrontier post after someone linked me a taobao link - the printing quality seems somewhat grainy.

[keebs.io]

Dramas aside, I appreciate that it's quite a unique design, with a creative execution of the theme, with evident effort and thought given to the icon mods and novelties. I also appreciate you taking the time to answer various concerns by other members of the community, and hope you can feedback to the original designer,  further areas of improvement that can be done with the legends that several ppl have mentioned. i.e. Caps Lock instead of Capslock. Suggest changing from 'Win' to 'Sys' term as well.
Not the biggest fan of all-in-one kitting either.

Also are there any renders of the deskmat design with the keyset? I'd like to see how it complements the set as a whole.
I'm also worried about banding issues with that gradient in the picture you've shown in the post.

I also am really uncomfortable with the name you're choosing to operate with. Wouldn't you prefer to choose something much less similar to keeb.io and make an original brand for yourself?

Please don't be offended by my comments. I actually like the idea, am interested in the profile, and like the gradient as well. If the China GB has already happened, do show us some real life pictures, that would be very helpful to this IC.

+1 to the above. If this set/profile has already ran before, then photos of prior products will allay people's concerns about the quality of a profile/manufacturer that people here are unfamiliar with. I appreciate the few photos of colour matched sample, but those are blanks- are there any other sample keycaps with the legends on them, so we can see how that contrast and clarity looks? Photos of the underside /thickness of caps will also be appreciated by others here too.

If this set has already run and you're producing more after this round of GB, please consider redoing the text legends. I would actually consider purchasing this if the "CapsLock" had a space so it's "Caps Lock". Also, the crescent moon shape beside every mod legend somehow just seems way too close to me, visually. Make the text smaller and give it room to breathe, especially for Tab and Shift.

The font size on the stepped caps is also way bigger than all the other mods. It's kind of jarring.

I also am really uncomfortable with the name you're choosing to operate with. Wouldn't you prefer to choose something much less similar to keeb.io and make an original brand for yourself?

Please don't be offended by my comments. I actually like the idea, am interested in the profile, and like the gradient as well. If the China GB has already happened, do show us some real life pictures, that would be very helpful to this IC.

Thanks for these very good feedback!

We will change "Capslock" to "Caps Lock" and 'Win' to "Sys".

Regarding the Kit, our manufacture Drunken Ink does not provide us the option to place separate orders for different modules.

Regarding the sample kit, Chinese New Year holiday just ended and we are trying our best to push manufacture for delivering us a complete sample. We will share more photos once we have them.

Also, we have more than enough orders from our trial run in China region and MOQ has been met.

Please forgive me if I miss quote any related questions!

[keebs.io]

Agreed, pictures of previous runs would be great.

I found this zfrontier post after someone linked me a taobao link - the printing quality seems somewhat grainy.

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We completely understand peoples concern here.

We will definitely share more exclusive pictures regarding JDA and this set soon.

Hope that will ease people's concerns and feel more comfortable to join the group buy after this bumpy ride.

[keebs.io]

Agreed, pictures of previous runs would be great.

I found this zfrontier post after someone linked me a taobao link - the printing quality seems somewhat grainy.

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Our China region trial run ended around Feb, 10th. This global group buy and trial run are scheduled to be manufactured together (hopefully on March 2021). Due to the delay of CNY and pile of orders, manufacture just resumed our sample making process. We will provide our sample picture soon!

[keebs.io]

If this set has already run and you're producing more after this round of GB, please consider redoing the text legends. I would actually consider purchasing this if the "CapsLock" had a space so it's "Caps Lock". Also, the crescent moon shape beside every mod legend somehow just seems way too close to me, visually. Make the text smaller and give it room to breathe, especially for Tab and Shift.

The font size on the stepped caps is also way bigger than all the other mods. It's kind of jarring.

I also am really uncomfortable with the name you're choosing to operate with. Wouldn't you prefer to choose something much less similar to keeb.io and make an original brand for yourself?

Please don't be offended by my comments. I actually like the idea, am interested in the profile, and like the gradient as well. If the China GB has already happened, do show us some real life pictures, that would be very helpful to this IC.

Hi there, no offense taken and we really appreciate the feedbacks. We will change "CapsLock" into "Caps Lock", thanks for bringing it up!

[Draxthor]

In for the keyboard kit!!!

[Ratheighna]

I would love the ability to get the blue moon kit with the standard alphas added on as a smaller kit option.

[azzipa]

so a bunch of low post count profiles boost this, a spotty website, no proxies and no history. Call me skeptical. and this direct shipping with no recourse is not a positive for me. others might see it differently.

[candravamsa]

Even for the people that still want the set, at this point MOQ might become an issue.

[keebs.io]

I would love the ability to get the blue moon kit with the standard alphas added on as a smaller kit option.

Sorry, JDA provider Drunken Ink does not support selling it as smaller modules.

[keebs.io]

so a bunch of low post count profiles boost this, a spotty website, no proxies and no history. Call me skeptical. and this direct shipping with no recourse is not a positive for me. others might see it differently.

Sorry about the unpolished website! We are new to this community and we are a small shop.

For our first drop, we want to focus more on quality the keycap set itself and make sure it will be delivered on time.

We also know there is a process for building trust in this community. With all these drama, we think the best way to proof ourselves is to make sure keycap set will be delivered on time and with amazing quality.

We really appreciate all the feedbacks from Geekhack, Reddit and Discord. We learnt so much from those.

P.S. we know people are worried about our domain name. We will come up with a new domain and name for ourselves soon.

[keebs.io]

Even for the people that still want the set, at this point MOQ might become an issue.

In the CN run, we have over 300 orders. MOQ has been meet.

[Kaidesk_Lee]

Love the gradient colours, some of the best I've seen so far.

[japancakes]

Blood moon looks crazy good and different.

[jk_pens]

Not yet decided on getting in on this, but I love the colorways and am SO HAPPY to see a set with what appears to be an R2 1.75 that doesn't have a legend on it. I *always* remap caps lock to something else and hate even seeing "caps lock" on my board ;-) I wish more sets included a novelty or even a blank for that spot.

[keebs.io]

Hi guys, updated our IC Post with JDA sample pictures we had. Let us know if you have any questions!

[keebs.io]

Hi guys, Some updates:

1. Currently we are at 69 orders (+ 400 orders in CN and other channel)
2. Sound added.
3. Base on feedbacks, we will keep using Directional Crescent Arrow key as shown in our current render.

[keebs.io]

Some very important updates, want to repeat it here so that more people will see it.

1. We will cover custom duty:
All the orders will be shipped from our shipping partner to you directly. We reimburse custom duty for all orders. If you are imposed with custom duty for your order, you can submit your custom duty documents to support@keebs.io for us to review. We will refund duty amount to back to your original payment method.
2. Group Buy Ending will be closed on 03/15/2021:
We currently have around 500 orders globally. All orders will be manufactured together. According to our designer, “The Moon” sets are scheduled to be produced around end of March. In order for us to deliver “The Moon” on time, we will need to finalize our order numbers by mid March. Therefore, Group Buy will be closed one week early and on 03/15/2021. We sincerely apologize for changing our Group Buy Schedule!
3. In-Stock sale after fulfillment:
After Group Buy order fulfillment and defect fixes, we will host in-stock sale if there are extras left.
4. PayPal:
We are actively working with PayPal to expedite the review process for our business account. However, we don’t have an ETA on when our business account will be ready. So we won’t be able to support PayPal payment for JDA the Moon GB.

[keebs.io]

Updates:

1. GB on ClickClack.io concluded with 199 sets.
2. We are looking to start manufacturing JDA The Moon on around March 30th.
3. All 3 color ways' complete sample will be made before mass production. Designer will be on site to make sure it meets our design.
4. We are building our brand-new ClickClack.io. Our next release will be on our new website.

[devpm]

Do we have some news on this? It has been a looooooong time without any updates.... Worrying :/

[Technofrikus]

Check out their discord. They give regular updates there. Current status is the sets are finished, only some space bars are missing or have to me remade. Due to covid reappearing in china this takes longer then expected.

[devpm]

Aaaaaah!

Indeed I did not think about discord. Will have a look there.

But those are good news because I thought the project was dropped for some reasons. Now I can breath again. 

Thank you for your answer.