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[GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board - In Production
« on: Sat, 27 February 2021, 16:52:47 »
Typemaster 180

After 1 year of work, we are proud and excited to announce you the GB for the Typemaster 180!

Original IC thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=110028.0






Specifications

  • 75% premium board
  • Seamless and screwless in design
  • 7.7į typing angle
  • Closes with 16 magnets instead of screws
  • Quick plate change (less than 30 seconds)
  • Uses advanced gel pads for a great insulation and flex
  • Notches in the plate for quick & easy plate placement on the gel pads
  • 6063 Aluminum with optional Mirror Polished Stainless Steel weight
  • High quality PCB with ANSI & ISO support
  • Layouts : 6.25U and 7U spacebars support, stepped and normal capslock support, splited and normal backspace support
  • Unified USB-C Daughterboard with all the protections you need
  • QMK and VIA support
  • Designed, engineered, assembled and quality-checked in France
  • Shipped from France with magnets, gel and feet pre-installed


Timeline & Prices

The GB will start the 6th March 2021 at 7:00 PM UTC+1.

Countdown: https://countingdownto.com/countdown-pages/Z9OGFwD9

Price for the keyboard kit is 429Ä (aluminum weight), or 479Ä (polished stainless steel weight).

Each keyboard kit will contains :

  • Top Piece in anodized Aluminum 6063
  • Bottom Piece in anodized Aluminum 6063
  • Weight in polished Stainless Steel or anodized Aluminum 6063, depending of your option choice
  • One plate in anodized Aluminum 6063
  • One high-quality Typemaster 80-A PCB
  • One high-quality USB-C Daughterboard with JST cable
  • Premium Typemaster box

All Typemaster 180 kits will be delivered "ready to build". This means the magnets, gel pads and feet will be placed on the body for you, before delivery.

MoQ is 100 pieces, and the sale will be limited to 250 pieces, on a FCFS basis.

If we do not meet the 250 pieces, the GB will end the 6th April 2021 at 7:00 PM UTC+1.

We will charge VAT for EU customers ; We ship worldwide!

Extra plates are available in aluminum, brass, stainless steel, POM or PC. For the extra plates, the MoQ will be 25 units per material.

Extra PCB are also available for sale.

The ETA for shipping after the group buy is around 4-5 months for 100 units, and 5-6 months for 250 units. Please keep in mind this is a rough estimation! We will do our best to meet the quickest shipping.

We will ship by batches on a FCFS basis. This means the first order will be the first to be sent from our office. We will update you here and on Instagram at every important step.


Shop

You will be able to buy the Typemaster 180 directly on our shop :

https://typemaster.works/collections/typemaster-180

You can follow us on Instagram for more updates :

https://instagram.com/typemaster.works


Videos

Unboxing and first sound test :


Our second sound test :


Our third sound test :


Magnetic operation, plate placement and gel dampening :


@hipyotech Review :


@jeffbattlestation Sound Test :




Many thanks to all our supporters! It means a lot for us!
« Last Edit: Sun, 11 April 2021, 17:15:30 by Typemaster »

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 01 March 2021, 14:03:11 »
Approved :thumb:

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 01 March 2021, 14:04:19 »
Nice! Been looking forward to this one  :thumb:

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 01 March 2021, 14:08:05 »
I really like this. Is VAT included in the prices you listed or is it added on top of them?

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 01 March 2021, 16:41:06 »
Remember seeing a youtube video on this before. Would love to see how the typing feel is. Nice design

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 01 March 2021, 18:08:42 »
Approved :thumb:

Thanks you  :thumb:

I really like this. Is VAT included in the prices you listed or is it added on top of them?

The VAT is added on top at the checkout, if you select a EU-based country in the shipping address

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 01 March 2021, 21:56:54 »
Will you release plate file? I would like to modify it to support ALPS stab although i dont know how to do atm, but i think there are more people interested in it. Modern ALPS keycaps are a joke.

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 01 March 2021, 22:31:51 »
Definitely joining this. GL  :thumb:

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 02 March 2021, 01:09:45 »
The VAT is added on top at the checkout, if you select a EU-based country in the shipping address

Is VAT % calculated based on French VAT or target country VAT? How much is shipping? Trying to calculate what the total cost would be for me :)

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 02 March 2021, 10:08:47 »
Will you release plate file? I would like to modify it to support ALPS stab although i dont know how to do atm, but i think there are more people interested in it. Modern ALPS keycaps are a joke.

Yes :-) Plate file will be released soon after the GB completion, for personal use only.
The VAT is added on top at the checkout, if you select a EU-based country in the shipping address

Is VAT % calculated based on French VAT or target country VAT? How much is shipping? Trying to calculate what the total cost would be for me :)

Considering our volume, the VAT will be the French VAT (20%). Shipping to West EU will be 23,10Ä. East EU will be 32,20Ä

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 02 March 2021, 12:06:33 »
Very happy you persevered and is now hosting a very high quality GB. I'm still on the fence for this but that sound test is reallllly nice.

Good luck with GB in three days!

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 02 March 2021, 17:35:25 »
Very happy you persevered and is now hosting a very high quality GB. I'm still on the fence for this but that sound test is reallllly nice.

Good luck with GB in three days!

Thanks a lot :-)


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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 02 March 2021, 17:51:13 »
Due to some questions / concerns we got recently, here are some important notes we added on our website :

- The Black "Noir Basalte" is not a true black, nor a "navy" color. It has a slight blue tint in it you should see only in a strong light.

- Even if ALPS compatibility should be good on paper, it has not been tested by our team. Our plate design only supports MX style PCB stabs mount. However, we'll release the 3D file for our plate if you want to work on it.

- Both ANSI, ISO, and all the keyboard layouts we offre has been tested by our team.

- Plastic based plates (POM and PC) has not been tested by our team. While it should be resistant enough to pressure while you dismount the keyboard, please keep in mind you order them at your own risk.

Moreover, about the colors, please compare the photos of our last "silver / blue" prototype with the renders of the same color to have a good idea of "how the other colors will look".

We'll do a sample keyboard of each color once the GB is closed to check the colors are exactly what we want, before giving our green light for the other keyboards.

Unlike plastic keycaps, we'll have this way a good control of the colors we get from the anodizing factory.

In the future, we'll make sure to make a prototype of each color before going into the GB phase. For this first GB, we simply didn't had the finances to do that.

Feel free to let us know if you have any more questions !

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #13 on: Fri, 05 March 2021, 13:58:51 »
We're almost at the start of the GB !

A few points we wanted to tell you before it going live:

- We will test the plastic based plates before going into mass production. If they are bad or unusable, a refund will be done to each plastic plate order. Even if everything should work, we'll make all the tests needed to make sure you will not be disappointed.

- We had a lot of demands for a hotswap PCB. Later this year, we'll propose an IC about that for the Typemaster 180.

- We'll release the extra PCBs and plates 1 or 2 hours before going live, so you can add the extras in your basket and don't loose time once the keyboard kit is live.

That's all for today!

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #14 on: Fri, 05 March 2021, 22:54:01 »
Can thet hotswap pcb (the one planned for R2) work for the R1 versions? Or will the design be different?

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #15 on: Sat, 06 March 2021, 06:11:43 »
The planned hotswap PCB will be compatible with the keyboards sold in this round !

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #16 on: Sat, 06 March 2021, 12:02:18 »
Is the added Tax within EU (Denmark) a mistake? Price jumped up to 550euros

Edit: France is a part of the european union

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #17 on: Sat, 06 March 2021, 12:16:25 »
GB is now LIVE:thumb:

Is the added Tax within EU (Denmark) a mistake? Price jumped up to 550euros

Edit: France is a part of the european union

Hi there!

No it's not a mistake, we are obligated to collect VAT in any EU sale unfortunately... It will be sent from France so you'll not have any VAT / customs / duty taxes at the arrival however !

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #18 on: Sat, 06 March 2021, 12:19:01 »
Right, my own mistake not accounting for that when looking at the prices during IC.

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #19 on: Sat, 06 March 2021, 13:27:44 »
I'm in! ;D Hope the GB numbers are looking good  :thumb:

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #20 on: Sat, 06 March 2021, 15:54:30 »
I have a TKL already but I'll be supporting this in the sidelines. This is a super interesting board and I'm really glad you guys stuck with it despite the early criticisms. You've made something special.

In the future if you make a 65% I'll definitely be in :)

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #21 on: Sat, 06 March 2021, 17:48:46 »
Looping back here again..

Is there any way we could do a full black one? I see that you have the black bottom base, weight, and top, but would need to buy different boards to get that combo.

Highly considering that.. Or just all silver.

Odd that's not an option.

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #22 on: Sat, 06 March 2021, 18:46:30 »
Looping back here again..

Is there any way we could do a full black one? I see that you have the black bottom base, weight, and top, but would need to buy different boards to get that combo.

Highly considering that.. Or just all silver.

Odd that's not an option.

Hey ! A full black one is a bit of a hit or miss because of the anodization process... If the 2 pieces comes in slightly different colors, it will not looks good. When there's a lot of production, it's kind of possible to matches the pieces together. But that's not our case.

And you'll miss the 2-tones design as well doing that :-)

Just curious, but why would you want a 1 color model instead of a 2-tones ?

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #23 on: Sat, 06 March 2021, 18:47:08 »
I'm in! ;D Hope the GB numbers are looking good  :thumb:

Looking good atm :-)

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #24 on: Sat, 06 March 2021, 19:01:34 »
Jumped in for a silver / red board, really looking forward to it!

Pretty affordable extras pricing as well, got some extra pcb's and plates  :thumb:
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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #25 on: Sat, 06 March 2021, 21:03:00 »
Looping back here again..

Is there any way we could do a full black one? I see that you have the black bottom base, weight, and top, but would need to buy different boards to get that combo.

Highly considering that.. Or just all silver.

Odd that's not an option.

Hey ! A full black one is a bit of a hit or miss because of the anodization process... If the 2 pieces comes in slightly different colors, it will not looks good. When there's a lot of production, it's kind of possible to matches the pieces together. But that's not our case.

And you'll miss the 2-tones design as well doing that :-)

Just curious, but why would you want a 1 color model instead of a 2-tones ?


Just personal preference. Personally not a huge fan of multiple colors on a board, but that is definitely just me, haha.


Good luck - I'll definitely continue to think about it, and thanks for the response.

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #26 on: Sun, 07 March 2021, 01:48:35 »
Do group buy meet MoQ yet? I thought it quite hype but it's turned out not. Can you update the gb status please.

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #27 on: Sun, 07 March 2021, 02:18:47 »
Thanks for deciding to test the plastic plates before shipping. I have a lot more confidence in this now. Got in on a black/gold one. GL!  :thumb:

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #28 on: Sun, 07 March 2021, 05:24:59 »
Do group buy meet MoQ yet? I thought it quite hype but it's turned out not. Can you update the gb status please.

Hi there! We'll post a "24 hours" update tonight, but numbers looks quite good IMO for the first 24h and a very first GB!

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #29 on: Sun, 07 March 2021, 07:20:03 »
Many thanks and I can't wait till it on my hands  :p :p :p

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #30 on: Sun, 07 March 2021, 07:57:28 »
We are aware there is some problems with certain cards / banks, probably due to a problem with the 3D secure configuration. We are in contact with our payment gateway about this problem, and it should be resolved quickly. We'll get in touch with every buyer who had a problem once it's solved !

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #31 on: Sun, 07 March 2021, 14:57:00 »
We are very pleased to announce you we are at 50% MoQ after the first 24h of the GB !

Thanks you a lot for your overwhelming support ! :thumb:

Once our payment system will be corrected, we should be around 60% MoQ. We'll keep you updated on that.

Some other announcement will be made soon, stay tuned !

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« Reply #32 on: Wed, 10 March 2021, 05:11:26 »
I would be very interested in ordering, but I really wish there could be an extra hotswap PCB

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #33 on: Wed, 10 March 2021, 11:31:53 »
I would be very interested in ordering, but I really wish there could be an extra hotswap PCB

If there's enough demand, we'll set up a GB for an hot-swap PCB in the next months !

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« Reply #34 on: Wed, 10 March 2021, 23:12:13 »
Any update of how close you are at to MoQ?

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« Reply #35 on: Thu, 11 March 2021, 10:56:29 »
Interesting idea!

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« Reply #36 on: Fri, 12 March 2021, 20:54:14 »
Any update of how close you are at to MoQ?

I'm wondering this as well. I don't want to join, just to be refunded shortly afterwards.

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« Reply #37 on: Mon, 15 March 2021, 11:22:13 »
Any chance we can change colors after buying in? Black/gold has really grown on me..

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« Reply #38 on: Tue, 16 March 2021, 16:47:58 »
Any update of how close you are at to MoQ?

I'm wondering this as well. I don't want to join, just to be refunded shortly afterwards.

Hi there!

We're currently at 65% MoQ with somewhere between 10 and 15% more awaiting for our payment gateway to support their payment cards. Unfortunately, the situation with our payment gateway is very long to resolve, and most of our EU customers can't finalize their purchase. Considering this, we should be around 80% MoQ after this issue is resolved !


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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #39 on: Tue, 16 March 2021, 16:48:41 »
Any chance we can change colors after buying in? Black/gold has really grown on me..

Yes sure, feel free to send us an e-mail at the same e-mail you received with your order, and we'll change that :-)

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #40 on: Wed, 17 March 2021, 12:26:32 »
Buyer beware : Runner has been ignoring emails for a week and refuses to refund purchase and claims order has already been placed with factory after Group buy started however MOQ hasn't even been met at this time.
 Email from a week ago : hasn't responded since

"Iím sorry to hear that you want to cancel your Typemaster order. Unfortunately, as per our Terms of Service and as we specifically wrote on each product page, all the sales are final. We do not accept refunds.

Your keyboard has itís production already planned with our factory, and we canít cancel it at the moment.

We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience."
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« Reply #41 on: Wed, 17 March 2021, 14:13:58 »
Buyer beware : Runner has been ignoring emails for a week and refuses to refund purchase and claims order has already been placed with factory after Group buy started however MOQ hasn't even been met at this time.
 Email from a week ago : hasn't responded since

"Iím sorry to hear that you want to cancel your Typemaster order. Unfortunately, as per our Terms of Service and as we specifically wrote on each product page, all the sales are final. We do not accept refunds.

Your keyboard has itís production already planned with our factory, and we canít cancel it at the moment.

We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience."
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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #42 on: Wed, 17 March 2021, 15:05:11 »
Buyer beware : Runner has been ignoring emails for a week and refuses to refund purchase and claims order has already been placed with factory after Group buy started however MOQ hasn't even been met at this time.
 Email from a week ago : hasn't responded since

"Iím sorry to hear that you want to cancel your Typemaster order. Unfortunately, as per our Terms of Service and as we specifically wrote on each product page, all the sales are final. We do not accept refunds.

Your keyboard has itís production already planned with our factory, and we canít cancel it at the moment.

We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience."
This is normal for group buys. There are generally no refunds once an order has been placed. I'm not sure why you're posting a buyer beware to make this GB look any different than any other GB out there on geekhack.

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #43 on: Wed, 17 March 2021, 15:08:44 »
Buyer beware : Runner has been ignoring emails for a week and refuses to refund purchase and claims order has already been placed with factory after Group buy started however MOQ hasn't even been met at this time.
 Email from a week ago : hasn't responded since

"Iím sorry to hear that you want to cancel your Typemaster order. Unfortunately, as per our Terms of Service and as we specifically wrote on each product page, all the sales are final. We do not accept refunds.

Your keyboard has itís production already planned with our factory, and we canít cancel it at the moment.

We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience."
When you enter a GB, you agree that you can't refund. What pasted from the email literally tells you that.

:facepalm:

That is not a universal rule of GBs, nor is that 100% clear from the verbiage on the website. By my interpretation, a "sale" being final means that after the item has shipped or been received by the buyer, they are not able to return it. Not that they can't intercept it at some point earlier in the process and cancel their order. In this case, the GB is still active and that would indicate that the order has not been placed with the factory - therefore, they should be able to cancel the order and refund the payment.

This is a totally legitimate heads up to pass along to potential buyers.

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« Reply #44 on: Wed, 17 March 2021, 16:04:27 »
Exactly glad to see not everyone is oblivious.

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #45 on: Wed, 17 March 2021, 16:06:07 »
Buyer beware : Runner has been ignoring emails for a week and refuses to refund purchase and claims order has already been placed with factory after Group buy started however MOQ hasn't even been met at this time.
 Email from a week ago : hasn't responded since

"Iím sorry to hear that you want to cancel your Typemaster order. Unfortunately, as per our Terms of Service and as we specifically wrote on each product page, all the sales are final. We do not accept refunds.

Your keyboard has itís production already planned with our factory, and we canít cancel it at the moment.

We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience."
When you enter a GB, you agree that you can't refund. What pasted from the email literally tells you that.

:facepalm:

Did you even read the typemaster website page? See below

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #46 on: Wed, 17 March 2021, 16:33:55 »
Buyer beware : Runner has been ignoring emails for a week and refuses to refund purchase and claims order has already been placed with factory after Group buy started however MOQ hasn't even been met at this time.
 Email from a week ago : hasn't responded since

"Iím sorry to hear that you want to cancel your Typemaster order. Unfortunately, as per our Terms of Service and as we specifically wrote on each product page, all the sales are final. We do not accept refunds.

Your keyboard has itís production already planned with our factory, and we canít cancel it at the moment.

We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience."
When you enter a GB, you agree that you can't refund. What pasted from the email literally tells you that.

:facepalm:

That is not a universal rule of GBs, nor is that 100% clear from the verbiage on the website. By my interpretation, a "sale" being final means that after the item has shipped or been received by the buyer, they are not able to return it. Not that they can't intercept it at some point earlier in the process and cancel their order. In this case, the GB is still active and that would indicate that the order has not been placed with the factory - therefore, they should be able to cancel the order and refund the payment.

This is a totally legitimate heads up to pass along to potential buyers.
My bad for the wrong assumption.

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #47 on: Wed, 17 March 2021, 17:16:44 »
Buyer beware : Runner has been ignoring emails for a week and refuses to refund purchase and claims order has already been placed with factory after Group buy started however MOQ hasn't even been met at this time.
 Email from a week ago : hasn't responded since

"Iím sorry to hear that you want to cancel your Typemaster order. Unfortunately, as per our Terms of Service and as we specifically wrote on each product page, all the sales are final. We do not accept refunds.

Your keyboard has itís production already planned with our factory, and we canít cancel it at the moment.

We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience."

Hi there,

We're sorry about the late reply. We got some problems with our e-mails, witch are now resolved.

As I am writing to you at the moment, we are working closely with our manufacturer, and while the keyboards are still not in production, we however are planning their production as we speak to reduce the overall process time.

Each time a customer is ordering from us, we are paying a lot of percentage based fees, witch for most will not be refunded to us in case of a refund, because each card transaction have a cost.

In a "standard" business with "standard" margins, this is not a problem and can be assumed within the margin. In our case, we are a very small group, with limited finances, and we are working with very low margins. We can't pay from our own pockets because "customers are changing their mind" over the time.

This is why we clearly stated on each product "All sales are final. We will NOT accept returns, refunds or replacements under ANY circumstances.". According to our country, a sale (= contract between the company and the buyer) starts as soon as the buyer clicks on the "Buy" button.

That is not a universal rule of GBs, nor is that 100% clear from the verbiage on the website. By my interpretation, a "sale" being final means that after the item has shipped or been received by the buyer, they are not able to return it. Not that they can't intercept it at some point earlier in the process and cancel their order. In this case, the GB is still active and that would indicate that the order has not been placed with the factory - therefore, they should be able to cancel the order and refund the payment.

This is a totally legitimate heads up to pass along to potential buyers.

Hi there,

As I wrote to @jdbaker82, in our country a sale starts as soon as the customer buys the product. Isn't it something universal ? Really curious about it, because I thought our terms were very clear about this part.

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #48 on: Wed, 17 March 2021, 17:38:43 »
I know you guys are busy but please consider making a discord server for this so we can all communicate and stay updated with this groupbuy. I think it would make people less anxious and feel relieved regarding this.

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #49 on: Wed, 17 March 2021, 18:00:53 »
I see now that you guys are using Shopify, and you do not want to issue refunds. This is understandable, I have personal experience with Shopify and they do not issue refunds to the fees incurred. I can completely understand your situation at the moment, but perhaps instead of issuing full refunds, issue a partial refund that ensures you do not have to pay out of pocket to refund? With that solution, those who truly want a refund can get their refund, and you will not suffer. I think this solution is most acceptable. For the others in this thread, you must understand that the reason they cannot refund is out of their hands, because of Shopify's ridiculous refund policies, and nearly all small GB's involving Shopify suffer from this issue.

EDIT:

They have now updated the policy to issue refunds (minus fees they paid) for anyone who wants a refund. Great stuff by the team :thumb:, happy to hear they are accepting criticism and addressing them fairly. They've addressed nearly all the complaints of the original GB at this point, which I am happy to see because most GB's, especially small ones like this don't go that far.
« Last Edit: Thu, 18 March 2021, 18:45:53 by lumin8 »

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #50 on: Wed, 17 March 2021, 22:39:46 »
+++ For a discord

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #51 on: Thu, 18 March 2021, 14:10:21 »
Same on the discord! Even if it's not used for updates, it'd be nice to chat with others who're in on the GB

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #52 on: Thu, 18 March 2021, 14:37:27 »
Due to the popular demand, we'll setup a Discord soon :thumb:

About the cases of refund requests, we've changed our policy today to this terms :

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You can request for a refund of your order until the 6th April 2021 at 7:00 PM UTC+1. However, we will deduct services fees of 3,8% of the total amount you purchased.

After the 6th April 2021, all the sales will be final. From this date, we will NOT accept returns, refunds or replacements under ANY circumstances.

The 3,8% is what we pay in Shopify, Payment processor, 3D secure, and bank fees on each transaction.

We believe this is the best decision for those who wish to cancel their participation into the GB !

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #53 on: Mon, 22 March 2021, 10:59:08 »
We're happy to let you know that our payment gateway is (finally) working correctly !

If you had troubles by finalizing your order the last 2 weeks, it should works well now :thumb:

Let us know if anything goes wrong on your side !

We'll put an update about the number of orders once the people who tried to buy have the chance to complete their order

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #54 on: Fri, 26 March 2021, 14:00:19 »
Update? How we looking?

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #55 on: Sat, 27 March 2021, 16:53:22 »
Hello there !

The Typemaster 180 GB is closing in 1 week, and we are currently at 75% MoQ !

Considering the Interest Check did not meet the GB numbers at the moment, we took some decisions about this GB and our future offering :

- The Typemaster 180 will not be be run again. This will be the only GB to get it !

- We will stock a few numbers of Typemaster 180 extras with our own funds to help the GB reaching MoQ.

- In the future, we'll run smaller batches of our designs, with less color choices, in order to get a faster processing on the whole GB process. More on that soon!

Have a nice day :)

« Last Edit: Sat, 27 March 2021, 17:10:35 by Typemaster »

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #56 on: Sat, 27 March 2021, 17:19:39 »
If I wasn't such a Topre fan I'd be all over this (esp if it came in a TKL version)

This is one hell of a good looking board. Really. Very nicely done: every line on this board looks deliberate and harmonious. I'm particularly pleased by your decision to keep logos off of the top of the board.

Wonderful sounding board! I bet it feels terrific too (gel interface between plate and chassis) - probably a stellar performer over long typing sessions.

I think you guys just kicked a goal on this one.!!!


Congrats,

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #57 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 05:33:20 »
Hello there !

The Typemaster 180 GB is closing in 1 week, and we are currently at 75% MoQ !

Considering the Interest Check did not meet the GB numbers at the moment, we took some decisions about this GB and our future offering :

- The Typemaster 180 will not be be run again. This will be the only GB to get it !

- We will stock a few numbers of Typemaster 180 extras with our own funds to help the GB reaching MoQ.

- In the future, we'll run smaller batches of our designs, with less color choices, in order to get a faster processing on the whole GB process. More on that soon!

Have a nice day :)

best wishes for you guys!
and looking forward to layout 65 variant with the same design

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #58 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 15:13:46 »
There's always a few stragglers who join in the last few days, hopefully this makes MOQ without having to use your own funds, but either way looking forwards to your next project as well!  :thumb:

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #59 on: Wed, 31 March 2021, 13:47:08 »
Hello there !

The Typemaster 180 GB is closing in 1 week, and we are currently at 75% MoQ !

Considering the Interest Check did not meet the GB numbers at the moment, we took some decisions about this GB and our future offering :

- The Typemaster 180 will not be be run again. This will be the only GB to get it !

- We will stock a few numbers of Typemaster 180 extras with our own funds to help the GB reaching MoQ.

- In the future, we'll run smaller batches of our designs, with less color choices, in order to get a faster processing on the whole GB process. More on that soon!

Have a nice day :)

Sad to hear that, and the issue wont affect us that joined already in anyway?

Regarding the extra parts you will need to stock in order to meet MOQ, what are they and will we be able to buy them together with the boards?
If the price is low, i would for example like to buy another bottom piece with a different color than the one i ordered.

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #60 on: Wed, 31 March 2021, 14:03:24 »
Regarding the extra parts you will need to stock in order to meet MOQ, what are they and will we be able to buy them together with the boards?
If the price is low, i would for example like to buy another bottom piece with a different color than the one i ordered.

Seconded! This would be amazing

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #61 on: Thu, 01 April 2021, 10:01:57 »
Hello there !

This GB will end in 3 days,

We're now at 80% MoQ, so this board will be made with the extras we'll add from our own funds !

I wanted to thanks you a lot for the GB participations and the kind words you guys are sending to us :thumb:

Sad to hear that, and the issue wont affect us that joined already in anyway?

Regarding the extra parts you will need to stock in order to meet MOQ, what are they and will we be able to buy them together with the boards?
If the price is low, i would for example like to buy another bottom piece with a different color than the one i ordered.

There will be no issues for the participants of the current GB !

We'll order extras as full keyboards and plates to help reaching MoQ and keeping the same price we has been quoted from the factory.

However, we did not plan to offer only bottoms pieces in this GB or in the extras. There's some reasons about that :

- The fitting of each pieces is done and controlled per keyboard, and not every piece in guaranteed to fit another keyboard nicely (especially the weight in the bottom piece)
- There's no packaging planned to send only a piece of the keyboard
- Our volume is too low at the moment to do it as perfectly as we want to do


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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #62 on: Thu, 01 April 2021, 13:35:26 »
I hope the hotswap PCB still has enough demand to warrant a future GB. Is there any info on about how long that would take for us to see something like that, besides the prior statement of "a few months?"

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #63 on: Fri, 02 April 2021, 02:53:33 »
Dear Typemaster,

I plan to make a youtube video on your board once I receive it, I think your design and concept is great, I feel as though due to your newness in the market people didn't really understand the reason for the price and the lack of marketing didn't help, it's okay you have a fan and I look forward to seeing your board once released! all the best I hope you hit MOQ and good luck!!! ;D ;D ;D

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #64 on: Fri, 02 April 2021, 04:12:42 »
Once people start receiving it and videos are published in YT and such.. extras will sell quickly, as usual. Many people prefer buying in-stock. (I'm part of the GB !)

Offline Curin Derwin

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #65 on: Fri, 02 April 2021, 05:03:25 »
I really like this. This is a brilliant design and I like the swap-ability. I think a tighter layout would appeal to me more on a 75%, as well as flex considerations such as on the Jelly Epoch.

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #66 on: Fri, 02 April 2021, 10:26:40 »
@Typemaster thank you for the answer, i fully understand it, though i had hopes!

@Surefoot I am certain, the marketing was not very good in this GB, but i have a feeling that the board is going to be a legend one day.

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #67 on: Fri, 02 April 2021, 15:22:45 »
This looks gorgeous, but somehow I just donít feel like I have enough information to assess the GB risks.

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #68 on: Sat, 03 April 2021, 04:31:38 »
@Typemaster thank you for the answer, i fully understand it, though i had hopes!

@Surefoot I am certain, the marketing was not very good in this GB, but i have a feeling that the board is going to be a legend one day.

I got the legend vibe from it as well. Gem In the rough if it gets made.

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #69 on: Mon, 05 April 2021, 06:32:00 »
The keyboard shows "sold out" for me. I thought this was supposed to end on the 6th?

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #70 on: Mon, 05 April 2021, 10:31:26 »
I'm curious about it being sold out too. Did it reach the 250 unit limit?

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #71 on: Mon, 05 April 2021, 10:50:57 »
I was trying to buy one today as well...

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #72 on: Mon, 05 April 2021, 13:02:40 »
I am going to buy, but itís already sold out :( . I thought GB will end at 6th

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #73 on: Mon, 05 April 2021, 13:13:54 »
The GB closed on April 3rd based on their instagram feed but I'm not sure why it ended 3 days earlier than posted. I hope the extras are still good to grab though

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #74 on: Mon, 05 April 2021, 16:03:34 »
I feel like this is one of those boards that more people would know about it had someone like dededecline, Alexotos, Taeha, etc, built one.

Super innovative design, but not a lot of people know about it.

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #75 on: Tue, 06 April 2021, 05:53:43 »
did someone say magnets!!!

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #76 on: Tue, 06 April 2021, 15:32:39 »
Hi there !

It seems we made a rather annoying mistake by setting 2 different closing dates for the GB, without noticing it. The GB should have stopped today (the 6th) and not the 3rd like we did.

However, good news : we have just re-opened the GB until this Sunday the 11th at 7:00 PM GMT-1. This way, the people who didn't had the time to enter will have 5 days to do it  :thumb:

Thanks again for all the kind words guys, we agree our marketing has not been the best, but we are pretty happy with the sales results so far. :-)

I also think it's a good thing to make a rather limited sale for this very first GB. It will speed up the process and make the production & preparation easier for us.

About the hotswap PCB, the plan is to make an IC when all keyboards have been delivered. If the IC is successful, the production should be quick !

See you this Sunday with the final GB results :cool:


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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #77 on: Wed, 07 April 2021, 04:09:49 »
I'm getting rejected on the payment. It all proceeds fine and I am able to approve the CC withdraw in my banking app (second layer of security in NL) but it returns with:

"Transaction non permise ŗ ce porteur"

After my banking app states the payment was approved from their side. After it won't show up in my CC so cancellation is handled correctly.

//edit
After multiple tries it suddenly went through! The wait begins!
« Last Edit: Wed, 07 April 2021, 07:51:26 by bastijn »
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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #78 on: Wed, 07 April 2021, 22:31:18 »
magnetswwweeww

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #79 on: Thu, 08 April 2021, 10:13:31 »
I'm getting rejected on the payment. It all proceeds fine and I am able to approve the CC withdraw in my banking app (second layer of security in NL) but it returns with:

"Transaction non permise ŗ ce porteur"

After my banking app states the payment was approved from their side. After it won't show up in my CC so cancellation is handled correctly.

//edit
After multiple tries it suddenly went through! The wait begins!

Hi there !

I'm glad it finally worked ! From what we know, this case can happen in case the payment processor thinks you're not the owner of your card, for example if you're not at your usual location, or if you use a VPN.

Anyways, I'm happy it worked for you at the end :-) Credit card processing is quite a mess..!

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #80 on: Thu, 08 April 2021, 14:48:45 »
I'm getting rejected on the payment. It all proceeds fine and I am able to approve the CC withdraw in my banking app (second layer of security in NL) but it returns with:

"Transaction non permise ŗ ce porteur"

After my banking app states the payment was approved from their side. After it won't show up in my CC so cancellation is handled correctly.

//edit
After multiple tries it suddenly went through! The wait begins!

Hi there !

I'm glad it finally worked ! From what we know, this case can happen in case the payment processor thinks you're not the owner of your card, for example if you're not at your usual location, or if you use a VPN.

Anyways, I'm happy it worked for you at the end :-) Credit card processing is quite a mess..!
Thanks! I assume Shopify is handling that mess for you right? In any case, order came in just fine in the end so can't wait to do the magic snap case closure thing myself. I will also be testing the various plates and see if your claim for 30 sec plate swap is true ;). Would be perfect as quite honestly I'm too lazy for hotswap hehe. Thanks for trying new things! Keeps it interesting.

Is the discord still planned? Waiting is more fun when done together!
« Last Edit: Thu, 08 April 2021, 14:51:03 by bastijn »
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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #81 on: Sun, 11 April 2021, 17:14:36 »
The Typemaster GB is now finished ! (for real, this time :))

Thanks a lot to everyone who joined, your support is incredible and we are very excited to start the production !

We are now hitting the MoQ with a very few extras we will order by ourselves :thumb:

99 keyboards will be made in total, witch is exactly what we wanted to do !

We will also stock some extra PCB's and plates as well.

I assume Shopify is handling that mess for you right?

Is the discord still planned? Waiting is more fun when done together!

Unfortunately Shopify is only doing the website part for us ! We don't have access to Shopify Payments here in France, so we have to deal with our local bank and a payment processor (witch was quite a mess)

Yes ! I'll setup a Discord in the next few days. It will be easier to communicate about the GB for the people who doesn't want to check the Instagram or the Geekhack post.
« Last Edit: Sun, 11 April 2021, 17:24:09 by Typemaster »

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board
« Reply #82 on: Sun, 11 April 2021, 17:44:36 »
The Typemaster GB is now finished ! (for real, this time :) )

Thanks a lot to everyone who joined, your support is incredible and we are very excited to start the production !

We are now hitting the MoQ with a very few extras we will order by ourselves :thumb:

99 keyboards will be made in total, witch is exactly what we wanted to do !

We will also stock some extra PCB's and plates as well.

I assume Shopify is handling that mess for you right?

Is the discord still planned? Waiting is more fun when done together!

Unfortunately Shopify is only doing the website part for us ! We don't have access to Shopify Payments here in France, so we have to deal with our local bank and a payment processor (witch was quite a mess)

Yes ! I'll setup a Discord in the next few days. It will be easier to communicate about the GB for the people who doesn't want to check the Instagram or the Geekhack post.


Congrats! Well deserved  :thumb: 


Excited to see these out in the wild.

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board - In Production
« Reply #83 on: Sun, 11 April 2021, 18:14:55 »
Nice to know you didn't had to make a lot from your pocket :).
If anything, extra hotswap PCBs would be neat! Waiting for the discord...

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board - In Production
« Reply #84 on: Mon, 12 April 2021, 00:58:42 »
Congrats!

The extra PCBs and plates will be available as in stock later on? I ordered 3 additional pcbs and 3 additional plates, one of each material but if this board turns out as great as I hope it will be it may become my daily driver. In that case I might restock for the future  :).
« Last Edit: Mon, 12 April 2021, 01:00:20 by bastijn »
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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board - In Production
« Reply #85 on: Tue, 13 April 2021, 09:52:19 »
Congrats!

The extra PCBs and plates will be available as in stock later on? I ordered 3 additional pcbs and 3 additional plates, one of each material but if this board turns out as great as I hope it will be it may become my daily driver. In that case I might restock for the future  :).

We'll see with our finances, but we'll try to stock as much PCB and plates as we can! It's hard to guess what will be the demand for these in the future, but we'll try to find the sweet spot :-)

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Re: [GB] Typemaster 180 - 75% Magnetic Board - In Production
« Reply #86 on: Wed, 14 April 2021, 01:18:03 »
Hi Typemaster,

Are we still scheduled for the shipping date below?

  • The estimated shipping time for orders is August / September 2021. Please keep in mind this is a rough estimate.
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