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[IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 by Nazaré Engineering
« on: Tue, 06 April 2021, 21:35:43 »

Nazaré 1-60 Wave 1 (W1)

Introduction
Hello, my name is Brian/Invezting and I am a long standing member of the community who has almost a decade of experience in engineering/CAD. I make this post here today to introduce my brand new company, Nazaré Engineering, alongside its very first project. The name of the company, Nazaré, takes after the Portuguese city home to the largest ocean waves on Earth. This name embodies the company’s vision perfectly, as it symbolizes a breathtakingly large wave of innovation and brilliant design. Through this vision, I set out to design Nazaré Engineering’s first keyboard to look special, feel premium, and sound elegant. With these goals in mind and meticulous attention to detail, the Nazaré 1-60 was born.



Naming Convention for Nazaré Keyboards
  • The first number (in this case, 1) signifies the design series.
  • The second number (in this case, 60) denotes the form factor.
  • Group buy rounds will be numbered and referred to as recurring waves (W1, W2, W3...etc.).



Design Approach
  • The top of the keyboard is designed to look special and captivate your attention, as the bottom right blocker badge provides a signature aesthetic never before seen on a 60% keyboard. The symmetrical bezels also allow for a clean top-view look that compliments the low front height of the keyboard. Even the carefully selected fillets and chamfers work together to showcase a soft, yet sharp and modern look.
  • The bottom of the keyboard is designed to portray the concept that the gravitational pull of the sun and moon causes ocean waves. This is why the keyboard bottom showcases a copper weight that represents the sun, a brass weight that represents the moon, and an ocean blue polycarbonate weight that represents Nazaré’s ocean waves.
  • I designed a brand new mounting style for this keyboard, which I have called the “Rail-Ring” gasket mount system. This new “Rail-Ring” gasket mount system is basically a hybrid of isolation gasket mount and o-ring gummy gasket mount. This mounting system consists of wrapping o-rings around every edge of the plate to dampen all contact between the plate and case. The left/right edges of the plate have 1 o-ring wrapped around them. The top/bottom edges of the plate have 3 o-rings wrapped around them. All 8 o-rings then rest inside of tunnels machined into both the top and bottom of the keyboard. These tunnels are meant to keep the plate in place and provide a little bit of o-ring compression. The depth of these tunnels also keep the plate in a floating position, where the plate doesn’t make any contact with the case. This system was designed with the intention to provide a consistent typing experience across the whole plate, as well as improve upon the already satisfying typing experience associated with o-ring gummy gasket mounted keyboards.





Specifications
  • 6063 Aluminum Case
  • Color Options: E-White Top w/ Anodized Black Bottom and Anodized Black Top w/ E-White Bottom
  • Mirror Polished or Bead-Blasted Stainless Steel Bottom Right Blocker Badge
  • Default Anodized Black Aluminum Plate
  • Eight 50A Silicone O-Rings
  • Four Different Bottom Accent Weights:
  • Mirror Polished or Bead-Blasted Stainless Steel Weight #1
  • Bead-Blasted Copper Weight #2
  • Ocean Blue Polycarbonate Weight #3
  • Bead-Blasted Brass Weight #4







Features
  • Bottom Right Blocker 60%
  • “Rail-Ring” Gasket Mount System
  • 6.9 Degree Typing Angle
  • Low Front Height (≈17.4mm)
  • Seamless Case Design
  • Centered USB-C Unified C3 Daughterboard (Designed by ai03 and friends)
  • Solder PCB - Compatible with QMK and VIA (Designed by Gondolindrim)
  • Supported Layouts (ANSI & ISO):


What’s in the box?
  • Nazaré 1-60 Keyboard
  • Default Aluminum Plate (of either ISO or ANSI layout)
  • PCB, USB-C Daughterboard, and JST Cable
  • All Necessary O-Rings, Bumpons, and Screws

Extras/Addons
  • Extra PCBs (each comes with a USB-C Daughterboard and JST Cable)
  • Extra Plates (of Different Materials)
  • Current candidates for plate materials are forged carbon fiber, brass, and copper. Make sure to fill out the IC form, so I can pick the plate materials with most interest.

Sale Info
  • Prices are TBA (I am trying very hard to keep the price of the keyboard as low as possible. However, keep in mind that this design uses multiple materials that increase QC costs, material costs, and machining costs. So do not expect a low price.)
  • Quantities are TBA
  • Vendors are TBA
  • Group buy format(s)/date(s) are TBA

Answers to Possible Questions
  • Why no tsangan bottom row?
    Sorry guys, I really wanted to support 7u, but I eventually decided to fix the bottom row to 6.25u for a number of different reasons.
    Reason #1) To make the bottom right blocker/badge look more square and less rectangular. I basically wanted the board to look more like a top right blocker board and less like a HHKB, as I feel like this would give the board its own signature look never before seen on a 60% keyboard.
    Reason #2) To make the aesthetic of the board more symmetrical in spite of the bottom right blocker, as fixing the bottom row to ANSI allows the space bar to have three keys on both the left and right of it. If I were to support tsangan, the board would have three keys on the left and only two on the right. This would also force me to design two different tops, as the blocker would have to be a different size in order to support tsangan.
    Reason #3) To lower the number of SKUs for this first run.

Prototype #1 Information
  • The color for this prototype is E-White Top w/ E-Black Bottom (The production units will be Anodized Black instead of E-Black, so keep this in mind.).
  • The stainless steel pieces (badge and backplate) for this prototype are both Bead-Blasted.






Connect With Nazaré Engineering
To stay up to date with this project and any future projects, follow the instagram page and join the discord server below!
Instagram Page: https://www.instagram.com/nazare.engineering/
Discord Server: https://discord.com/invite/qtmRtdCBJv

Special Words
I would like to thank the whole rat pack, the entire Nazaré discord, all the fellow homies from the S+R discord, Pikku for doing all of the renders, and anyone else who helped support this project along the way<3 Without you all, this project wouldn't have been possible.
« Last Edit: Thu, 15 April 2021, 18:00:08 by Invezting »

Offline RatRave

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Board looks really good!

Offline sunnysidecali

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Wow!!! I'm ready to ride the wave ;D

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Offline eniigma

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Looks awesome!

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  • Why are you even reading

Offline C_L | Soup

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Beautiful! GLIC, can't wait to see this progress and more designs come from you!
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Offline vheissu

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LET'S GOOOOOO

Offline MisterWaffle

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very well designed and creative. this is gr8

Offline novelflyer

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It looks awesome!

Offline KneeDeep

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Dig the side profile and three material accent weights. GL with IC!

Offline Nuap

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Finally an innovative 60% GB.

How about a few underglow LED's on the bottom of the PCB so the blue polycarb wave piece glows?


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Aight this is pretty cool
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Offline Invezting

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Finally an innovative 60% GB.

How about a few underglow LED's on the bottom of the PCB so the blue polycarb wave piece glows?

The PCB will have lighting compatibility!

Offline byfuryattheheart

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Hey I know that wharf and beach!

Offline YMwoo

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finally a different 60% that looks nice.
GLWIC!

Beautiful board. Can't wait for the group buy!

Offline NoxNoxNox

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I'm dying to experience how this feels and sounds to type on compared to typical gasket and o-ring designs.

Sign me up.

Offline Nuap

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Finally an innovative 60% GB.

How about a few underglow LED's on the bottom of the PCB so the blue polycarb wave piece glows?

The PCB will have lighting compatibility!

Can you confirm that underglow compatibility? For that the PCB would need to have pads for LED's like the WS2812B.

Offline MelonBred

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This is super neat! With the proto in hand, does the design meet your expectation/goals or do you think you might have to do some tweaking?

Offline SDKCAMPING

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for those curious about the mounting feel, I think the squishy 65 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=111401.0)  is something that you can refer to or ask people about the feel. I think the feels may be similar since it uses the same concept, maybe a little harder since it has side mounting as well

I love the weight design, it is so unique for this board!

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Definitely an unique approach. Something worth considering.   :)

Offline Chippy

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I have only seen this mount once before, always wanted to try it.
This and the swiss cheese keyboard is the next generation of keyboards

Offline yuutsu

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Will there be non-blocker available as an option? Kinda messes with symmetry...

Offline lewisflude

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Looks great!

Offline Izeri

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I really like this, that mounting is definitely interesting!
Also awesome renders by pikku once again :)

Offline RoyalOak88

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It really saddens me when I see someone being inspired by the culture of a country and then not showing a little love for it.
Not sure why you don't include an ISO version, when your inspiration comes from a country which uses ISO, in a continent where everybody uses ISO. I'm sure that most of people which relates with Nazaré (or at least know it better) are ISO users.
That being said, love the design and this could probably be my fist 60% keyboard. But no ISO, no love.

Offline Invezting

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Finally an innovative 60% GB.

How about a few underglow LED's on the bottom of the PCB so the blue polycarb wave piece glows?

The PCB will have lighting compatibility!

Can you confirm that underglow compatibility? For that the PCB would need to have pads for LED's like the WS2812B.

I was told by Gondo that he would indeed do this for the PCB. However, just to make sure I messaged him so that he can clear up your question, as I am sure he can do so better than I can.

Offline Invezting

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This is super neat! With the proto in hand, does the design meet your expectation/goals or do you think you might have to do some tweaking?
The prototype has surpassed my previous expectations and I am very happy with how it turned out. However, I still have some more testing to do, so I plan to improve upon it as much as I can, as I want this keyboard to be perfect before the group buy :)

Offline Invezting

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for those curious about the mounting feel, I think the squishy 65 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=111401.0)  is something that you can refer to or ask people about the feel. I think the feels may be similar since it uses the same concept, maybe a little harder since it has side mounting as well

I love the weight design, it is so unique for this board!
Oh wow! I have never actually seen this keyboard before! Thanks for linking this, as I am sure there is some helpful information here for those wondering about the mounting system. I guess great minds do think alike lol! I will say however that there could definitely be some differences in both sound/feel due to various different factors like the mounting point positions, the material(s) of the keyboard, the compression from the case, and the durometer softness, size, tightness, and material of the o-ring. Luckily I will be sending out some prototypes to various content creators and streamers to review and provide further information.

Offline Invezting

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Will there be non-blocker available as an option? Kinda messes with symmetry...
I completely understand that the blocker isn't for everyone. I initially considered allowing for this option, but after some pondering I ended up deciding against it, as I feel like this blocker gifts the board with its own recognizable and special look. I do understand that it could be a bit polarizing though and am willing to reconsider this option in the future when I am able to comfortably pump out more SKUs.

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Looks awesome!

Offline Invezting

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It really saddens me when I see someone being inspired by the culture of a country and then not showing a little love for it.
Not sure why you don't include an ISO version, when your inspiration comes from a country which uses ISO, in a continent where everybody uses ISO. I'm sure that most of people which relates with Nazaré (or at least know it better) are ISO users.
That being said, love the design and this could probably be my fist 60% keyboard. But no ISO, no love.
Thank you for bringing this to my attention. It is only right for this keyboard to have ISO support, so I will get straight to working on it!

Offline Nuap

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Finally an innovative 60% GB.

How about a few underglow LED's on the bottom of the PCB so the blue polycarb wave piece glows?

The PCB will have lighting compatibility!

Can you confirm that underglow compatibility? For that the PCB would need to have pads for LED's like the WS2812B.

I was told by Gondo that he would indeed do this for the PCB. However, just to make sure I messaged him so that he can clear up your question, as I am sure he can do so better than I can.

Great news, I am very keen for this - will definitely be buying during GB.

Offline RoyalOak88

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It really saddens me when I see someone being inspired by the culture of a country and then not showing a little love for it.
Not sure why you don't include an ISO version, when your inspiration comes from a country which uses ISO, in a continent where everybody uses ISO. I'm sure that most of people which relates with Nazaré (or at least know it better) are ISO users.
That being said, love the design and this could probably be my fist 60% keyboard. But no ISO, no love.
Thank you for bringing this to my attention. It is only right for this keyboard to have ISO support, so I will get straight to working on it!

Great news and thank you!
As someone who growth seeing Nazaré and also surfs, this have an emotional attachment to me  :)

Last request, is it possible to do some renders with key sets related with the sea/surf/beach down the line? (Ex.: KAT Great Wave, GMK Sunset Surfing, KAM Ocean Font, KAM Aquanaut etc.)

Really excited for this  :cool: GW

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Killer design, can't wait to ride the wave!

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Offline Invezting

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It really saddens me when I see someone being inspired by the culture of a country and then not showing a little love for it.
Not sure why you don't include an ISO version, when your inspiration comes from a country which uses ISO, in a continent where everybody uses ISO. I'm sure that most of people which relates with Nazaré (or at least know it better) are ISO users.
That being said, love the design and this could probably be my fist 60% keyboard. But no ISO, no love.
Thank you for bringing this to my attention. It is only right for this keyboard to have ISO support, so I will get straight to working on it!

Great news and thank you!
As someone who growth seeing Nazaré and also surfs, this have an emotional attachment to me  :)

Last request, is it possible to do some renders with key sets related with the sea/surf/beach down the line? (Ex.: KAT Great Wave, GMK Sunset Surfing, KAM Ocean Font, KAM Aquanaut etc.)

Really excited for this  :cool: GW
Glad I could help!  :thumb: I have never been to Nazaré, but I hope to one day, as it looks very beautiful and fascinating! I will definitely look into getting some more renders done before the group buy! Thanks for your support and for your feedback!
« Last Edit: Wed, 07 April 2021, 13:10:53 by Invezting »

Offline Dunne

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Nice- this checks a lot of innovative things off the list!

Offline kabocha

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awwwww yeaaa. sign me up! wait I already am! Congrats on the IC!

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Yeah this looks dope.

Offline yenel

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as a right control user the blocker location saddens me

Offline rokon07

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Great design; The only suggestion I would give would be maybe to move the logo up top and do split backspace with one key removed. Even without the suggested change, the board looks great. Looking forward to GB.

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So what is the difference between this and one o ring that goes around the whole assembly
Also I want to know difference between this and normal strip gasket

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Offline Havattack

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Another 60 with a pointless coroner blocker... Well, I guess that's what the people want.

Offline Invezting

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So what is the difference between this and one o ring that goes around the whole assembly
Also I want to know difference between this and normal strip gasket

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I will be sending prototypes out to multiple content creators and streamers who I am sure will do a great job at explaining these differences. Stay tuned!


Offline dRnRcRr

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Another 60 with a pointless coroner blocker... Well, I guess that's what the people want.
Please link us your keyboard IC.

Offline Ustinj

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Another 60 with a pointless coroner blocker... Well, I guess that's what the people want.

l've had thoughts of a WKL left blocker and an HHKB right blocker a few times but never dared to act on it because of symmetry... but I feel like a bottom right blocker on a 60% actually brings practical benefits. For those who use HHKB arrows (with split right shift FN), having no key in the bottom right makes it a lot easier to locate that FN key. A couple times I try hitting FN on a full tsangan layout, I need to be more precise to not hit the bottom right CTRL key.

On topic, nice work OP, I like the aesthetic you've got going on and the multi-colored weights

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i think the mini o-rings are kind of cute  ;)

Offline Zetina

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Very very nice

Offline finalarcadia

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If you add ISO pls make a separate plate for it  Great looking board here.
« Last Edit: Thu, 08 April 2021, 02:34:37 by finalarcadia »