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This project has been in the works for quite some time now, and we are glad to be finally ready to share it!
Introducing the Wildlife Switches line. It comprises two switches, one linear and one tactile.


Origin
We have been long fascinated by long stem pole frankens such as BCP (Black Cherry Pie) / Creampacas [Linear] and Zykos [Tactile]. While we are not looking to exactly replicate the aforementioned frankens, we want to provide a similar long stem pole experience with a slight twist. That was how the project came to life.

Naming
We wanted something meaningful and impactful at the same time. After some consideration, we decided on the names “Harimau” (Tiger) and “Penyu” (Turtle). It is a tribute to two increasingly endangered animals, the Malayan Tiger and the Marine Turtle. Coming from Malaysia ourselves, we wanted to raise awareness on this issue and make an impact ourselves at the same time. This is why we are committed to donating a set amount from the total sales of these switches to local wildlife conservation funds (TBD). We are also considering a themed deskmat sale in which all proceeds will be heading to the same wildlife conservation funds.

Switches
Now, moving onto the switches themselves. Here are the details:

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Harimau (Tiger)
- Tactile Switch
- 67g Spring
- Long Pole POM Stem
- Nylon Top Housing
- Nylon Blend Bottom Housing

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Penyu (Turtle)
- Linear Switch
- 62g Spring
- Long Pole POM Stem
- Nylon Top Housing
- Nylon Blend Bottom Housing


Both of these switches bottom out on the centre pole, which provides a fuller bottom out sound, similar to the frankens that inspired these switches. We have the samples at hand, and can say that we are impressed so far with the feel and sound of the switches, especially Penyu. It has a really crisp and noticeable bottom out sound, while feeling smooth even without lube. Harimau on the other hand has just the right amount of tactility in our opinion, not jarringly harsh yet not extremely weak, a smooth yet strong bump is how we would best describe it. There would be some travel distance left after the tactile event, but if you choose to bottom out while typing they would have a similar ‘explosive’ tactile feel to Zykos, albeit a little more subdued. Sound tests will be included later on in the timeline to show just how good these switches sound stock, and even more so lubed and filmed.

One frequent complaint with long pole frankenswitches such as the BCP that makes them not favoured by some is the noticeably reduced travel distance, which in turn disrupts feel. While the Harimau and Penyu also have a shorter travel distance than your usual MX style switch, the travel is slightly longer compared to BCPs and other cream-stem frankens, which in turn feels quite a bit more comfortable and easier to get used to when coming from ‘regular’ switches.

Housing and Stem Colours
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The stem will be a pure white colour.

Sound Tests
The main sound tests were recorded with the mic placed quite far away, so they might sound slightly thinner compared to if the mic was closer. But they are accurate in terms of that POV. We will be uploading close-up audio sound tests as well!

Harimau(Stock)

Harimau (Lubed and filmed)

Harimau (Lubed and Filmed, Better Mic Placement, Audio Only)

Penyu (Stock)

Penyu (Lubed and filmed)

Penyu (Lubed and Filmed, Better Mic Placement, Audio Only)

BCP and Zyko comparisons

Vendors
US - ThocKeys
CA - Mech.land
AU - ALLCAPS
UK - Proto[Typist]
EU - CandyKeys
SEA (PH) - Zion Studios
SEA (MY/SG) - Rebult Keyboards
IN - StacksKB
MX - RHESET
CN - Zfronfier


Group Buy Period
8/8/2021 - 31/8/2021


Timeline
4/5/2021 - IC Announced
1/6/2021 - Stock Sound Tests
3/6/2021 - Lubed and Filmed Sound Tests
CURRENT STATUS - GB Starts 8/8 and ends on 31/8

To Do List
Uncolored samples
Sound tests
Pricing
Colored samples
Vendors - Contact us if you’re a vendor and are interested in this project!
Reviews - If you're a reviewer/content creator and you're interested in covering the switches, do contact us!



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Force Curve Graphs measured by Pylon, big thanks!

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I love the fact that you are using the national language to name the switch.

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interesting project! glwic  :thumb:

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This linear switch looks promising. I’m a big fan of creamsicles and black cherry pies so I’ll be keeping an eye on this one for sure :)

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I will TAKE your ENTIRE STOCKKK

jk. looks so damn good tho. definitely count me in.

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This looks really great.

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Proprietary hmmm

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I know sound tests do not do justice of any kind to the switches, but could you post one if you have the samples at hand?

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Are these similar to Naevy switches?

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I'm gonna save so much money from frankenswitching.

EDIT: While I’ve got you here, since you’ve offered these switches lubed and filmed, I might as well request if we can get these springs swapped for TX ones (particularly the 16mm ones).
You’ve gotten us this far with bypassing so many switches, what’s one more little thing right 👀
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glwic! looking forward to it! always nice to have a good cause.
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I know sound tests do not do justice of any kind to the switches, but could you post one if you have the samples at hand?

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It is coming soon! :)

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I'm gonna save so much money from frankenswitching.

EDIT: While I’ve got you here, since you’ve offered these switches lubed and filmed, I might as well request if we can get these springs swapped for TX ones (particularly the 16mm ones).
You’ve gotten us this far with bypassing so many switches, what’s one more little thing right 👀

The lubed and filmed is just for sound test purposes, we are doing that ourselves manually :)

As for springs, we will definitely consider!

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In! Waiting for the sound test for both! :D

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Love it! Good luck with the ic. Looking forward to the Harimau switch!

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I'm gonna save so much money from frankenswitching.

EDIT: While I’ve got you here, since you’ve offered these switches lubed and filmed, I might as well request if we can get these springs swapped for TX ones (particularly the 16mm ones).
You’ve gotten us this far with bypassing so many switches, what’s one more little thing right 👀

The lubed and filmed is just for sound test purposes, we are doing that ourselves manually :)

As for springs, we will definitely consider!

Damn, misunderstood it. Either way, I appreciate it. At the very least, some tests with different springs might be useful.
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How is the tactility compared to the t1? Also love the 2 tone housing.

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How is the tactility compared to the t1? Also love the 2 tone housing.

I would say similar but it is a slightly sharper bump compared to the T1

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How is the tactility compared to the t1? Also love the 2 tone housing.

I would say similar but it is a slightly sharper bump compared to the T1
Is it using an existing stem mold—perhaps the Rara stem, which is sharper but with some pretravel before the bump, with a T1 leaf making this similar to the Twilight switch—or is this a completely new stem mold?

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How is the tactility compared to the t1? Also love the 2 tone housing.

I would say similar but it is a slightly sharper bump compared to the T1
Is it using an existing stem mold—perhaps the Rara stem, which is sharper but with some pretravel before the bump, with a T1 leaf making this similar to the Twilight switch—or is this a completely new stem mold?

I believe these stems are relatively new, not sure if they are used in any switches yet, though they are not exclusive to us.

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Thanks everyone for the interest! We have basically gotten 5-digit interest for both switches already in under 2 days!
Do continue to fill in the form if you are interested! That allows us to better gauge numbers and work with vendors!

Up Next:
Sound Tests
Vendors

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Thanks everyone for the interest! We have basically gotten 5-digit interest for both switches already in under 2 days!
Do continue to fill in the form if you are interested! That allows us to better gauge numbers and work with vendors!

Up Next:
Sound Tests
Vendors

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How is the tactility compared to the t1? Also love the 2 tone housing.

I would say similar but it is a slightly sharper bump compared to the T1
Is it using an existing stem mold—perhaps the Rara stem, which is sharper but with some pretravel before the bump, with a T1 leaf making this similar to the Twilight switch—or is this a completely new stem mold?

I believe these stems are relatively new, not sure if they are used in any switches yet, though they are not exclusive to us.
Thanks!

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✅ nice color theme
✅ raising wildlife awareness
✅ available in linear and tactile
✅ cute switch name

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Count me in! I'll buy both if the price is the same or even cheaper than alpaca.

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Looks interesting! But I was curious, what is the travel distance for the Penyu switch? Will be shorter than 4mm like the Frankenstein switches (creampacas and creamsicles)?

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Looks interesting! But I was curious, what is the travel distance for the Penyu switch? Will be shorter than 4mm like the Frankenstein switches (creampacas and creamsicles)?

Slightly shorter but not as short as the mentioned frankens. We find it more comfortable but still provides the same nice bottom out as the frankens.

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Discord link seems to be expired, also when is the expected GB/in-stock sale?

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The stem will be a pure white colour.

Aw, will it? I was kinda hoping it was a cream for the Harimau and a very light pastel green for the Penyu, the way it looks in the renders...  :-X
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The stem will be a pure white colour.

Aw, will it? I was kinda hoping it was a cream for the Harimau and a very light pastel green for the Penyu, the way it looks in the renders...  :-X

I think they're pure white in the renders, they just look the way you described because of the background.

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The stem will be a pure white colour.

Aw, will it? I was kinda hoping it was a cream for the Harimau and a very light pastel green for the Penyu, the way it looks in the renders...  :-X

I think they're pure white in the renders, they just look the way you described because of the background.

Ah, yeah I figured that’s what it was. I just thought if it was a lightly colored stem, that would be cuter looking and a bit more unique. But white is a safe bet.
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I think they're pure white in the renders, they just look the way you described because of the background.

Ah, yeah I figured that’s what it was. I just thought if it was a lightly colored stem, that would be cuter looking and a bit more unique. But white is a safe bet.

I think it would be a good thing though if they were different colors so you wouldn't accidentally mix them up when lubing, modding, etc.

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I think it would be a good thing though if they were different colors so you wouldn't accidentally mix them up when lubing, modding, etc.
That’s a good point, for sure! God knows I’ve mixed up Raeds and Naevies like that ._.
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Updated the Discord link.

Working hard to get the sound tests up soon! Will work on vendors after we get that done, sorry for the wait everyone! 🙏🏻

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Re: [IC]Harimau and Penyu Switch - Stock Sound Tests!!!
« Reply #38 on: Tue, 01 June 2021, 12:32:23 »
Stock sound tests are out! They are sound tests after all so it is not everything, but hopefully they give a good enough idea on how they will sound. Working on lubed and filmed next! Will also record BCP and Zykos with the same setup as a benchmark afterwards.

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Re: [IC]Harimau and Penyu Switch - Stock Sound Tests!!!
« Reply #39 on: Tue, 01 June 2021, 14:41:41 »
Stock sound tests are out! They are sound tests after all so it is not everything, but hopefully they give a good enough idea on how they will sound. Working on lubed and filmed next! Will also record BCP and Zykos with the same setup as a benchmark afterwards.

So far so good :)

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Re: [IC]Harimau and Penyu Switch - More Sound Tests!
« Reply #40 on: Thu, 03 June 2021, 14:37:36 »
Lubed and Filmed sound tests now out!

Also included a bonus close-up sound test outside of case :thumb:

Do share around if you liked them!

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Re: [IC]Harimau and Penyu Switch - More Sound Tests!
« Reply #41 on: Thu, 03 June 2021, 14:57:48 »
Thanks for the new sound tests! The mic sounds too far away though, is it possible to have a test with the mic closer? I can just be an audio file. Thanks!

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Re: [IC]Harimau and Penyu Switch - More Sound Tests!
« Reply #42 on: Thu, 03 June 2021, 15:37:10 »
Thanks for the new sound tests! The mic sounds too far away though, is it possible to have a test with the mic closer? I can just be an audio file. Thanks!

Added for Penyu for now, you're in for a treat ;)
The mic was indeed placed at a distance so it sounds slightly thinner compared to if the mic was to be placed closer. We will get the close-up audio sound tests out ASAP!
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Re: [IC]Harimau and Penyu Switch - More Sound Tests!
« Reply #43 on: Thu, 03 June 2021, 19:00:49 »
Thanks for the new sound tests! The mic sounds too far away though, is it possible to have a test with the mic closer? I can just be an audio file. Thanks!

Added for Penyu for now, you're in for a treat ;)
We will work on better sound tests soon, the mic was indeed placed too far for the main sound tests, hopefully this will do for now!

Noice. Thank you!

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Re: [IC]Harimau and Penyu Switch - More Sound Tests!
« Reply #44 on: Thu, 03 June 2021, 19:18:40 »
Would like to see force graph.
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Re: [IC]Harimau and Penyu Switch - More Sound Tests!
« Reply #45 on: Thu, 03 June 2021, 21:38:38 »
Ah, dang it, that close up Penyu audio is really good! Please tell me group buy price for these switches will make them cost less than in-stock JWK D:
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Re: [IC]Harimau and Penyu Switch - More Sound Tests!
« Reply #46 on: Fri, 04 June 2021, 09:43:02 »
Interested.  Consider Prototypist for UK vendor.
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Re: [IC]Harimau and Penyu Switch - More Sound Tests!
« Reply #47 on: Fri, 04 June 2021, 11:28:54 »
Will be interesting to see a comparison between these two switches and bcp & zyco. There’s been some recent efforts to replicate these frankens, but afaik, or imo at least, no actual substitutes yet. No info on the springs though, stock JWK/Durock? Springs are very much preference so it’s not a deal breaker if they’re not all that, but it would be interesting if you did some experimentation with the usual suspects.
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Re: [IC]Harimau and Penyu Switch - More Sound Tests!
« Reply #48 on: Fri, 04 June 2021, 20:56:23 »
Any idea of time for GB?

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Re: [IC]Harimau and Penyu Switch - More Sound Tests!
« Reply #49 on: Sat, 05 June 2021, 14:42:56 »
After the sound tests....c-mon, put a price tag on it and lets go with the GB! :)