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[GB] GMK Klassiker - Waiting for Production - 4/5 Colors approved
« on: Wed, 29 September 2021, 07:51:51 »


Guten Tag,

I've teased this set a bit already, but here is the official announcement for it. The idea is pretty simple, I like old sets and an all time classic is OG Beige, but instead of running yet another L9/U9 dual color beige set, I opted to create one with a single base color. It's a light beige tone that is roughly between L9 and U9, and will be matched to a RAL tone. For accents, I really like the RGB accents that some IBM Model M keyboards have, and were featured in several other keysets already, but I was never too fond of their deep saturation. For this set, I picked lighter tones that aren't as strong, but still colorful, I think they fit really well.

GMK Klassiker will launch on October 15th across multiple vendors with a simple 3 kit approach. An International kit is available as it felt mandatory for this project. I wanted to do as few kits as necessary to make sure all MOQ's are easily hit, as we still have quite high lead times with GMK.

TL;DR: Boring beige office keyset is boring.

Vendors
Asia - monokei.co
Canada - deskhero.ca
China - zfrontier.com
Europe - oblotzky.industries
Oceania - dailyclack.com
South Korea - swagkeys.com
United Kingdom - prototypist.net
United States - omnitype.com

Pricing
See individual vendor pages when the group buy is live, regular GB pricing is to be expected.

Timeline
Group Buy: From October 15th 2021 to November 15th 2021.
Delivery: Roughly 12 months after the group buy has ended.

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« Last Edit: Wed, 13 July 2022, 16:47:23 by Oblotzky »

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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 29 September 2021, 08:29:28 »
Very lit

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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 29 September 2021, 08:39:32 »
Klassiker!

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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 29 September 2021, 08:44:39 »
Congratulations on an excellent idea and for keeping it elegant. It's an interesting take on a classic, featuring Norde+ support from the start and covering the basic layouts; I'd say that depending on shipping costs—that is insane, recently—I'd be in.

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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 29 September 2021, 09:15:58 »
if only it had icon mods, would be an instant buy!
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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 29 September 2021, 09:30:12 »
Is it possible to know what ral are you running with?

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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 29 September 2021, 09:34:41 »
vorsprung durch plastik

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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 29 September 2021, 09:44:31 »

I'm in :cool:

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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 29 September 2021, 10:13:27 »
this is so boring

gotta have to buy in i guess

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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 29 September 2021, 10:47:06 »
ne mod pipe avail?

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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #10 on: Wed, 29 September 2021, 11:41:50 »
Was looking for a beige set to throw on a Kuro Thermal+ | The alternate mods work perfectly.

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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #11 on: Wed, 29 September 2021, 11:45:30 »
german mods would be a real Klassiker. come on, you guys know the caps and don't need to read them  :cool:

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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #12 on: Wed, 29 September 2021, 11:53:12 »
Oblotzky I love you, but why must you do me dirty like this? No 1.5U Supers is so sad :(

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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #13 on: Wed, 29 September 2021, 11:58:47 »
Am very enjoy.

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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 29 September 2021, 12:39:32 »
Oh my, another beige set, and and another RGB mod kit.
My wallet can't keep up, please proceed.

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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #15 on: Wed, 29 September 2021, 14:16:42 »
No "Ñ" in Europa kit?
Sad for Spain I guess

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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #16 on: Wed, 29 September 2021, 14:39:50 »
Can we know the RAL? even if it’s an estimate?

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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #17 on: Wed, 29 September 2021, 14:42:25 »
6u spacebars?

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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #18 on: Wed, 29 September 2021, 15:29:30 »
Every day I tell myself "no more GMK until their queue dies down" and then you all keep dropping these bombs

Sigh. Opens wallet :blank:
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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #19 on: Fri, 01 October 2021, 15:46:46 »
>EUROPA SET!!
>it contains only UKNorDE

Yeah. Typical.

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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #20 on: Fri, 01 October 2021, 16:05:01 »
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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #21 on: Fri, 01 October 2021, 16:28:03 »
Sad to see that R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn are missing for 65% users. I like it otherwise.

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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #22 on: Fri, 01 October 2021, 16:34:10 »
I believe the R1 Page Up besides the R1 End and Delete keys should be an R1 Page Down.

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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #23 on: Fri, 01 October 2021, 18:35:15 »
It's nice to see a classic-inspired set with a new take on beige - this will be lovely on silver and black ano.  I'm in.

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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #24 on: Fri, 01 October 2021, 20:02:02 »
yes. yes. yes. yes. yes.

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« Reply #25 on: Fri, 01 October 2021, 21:23:23 »
 Oblotzky does it again ... klassiker indeedee :)

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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #26 on: Sat, 02 October 2021, 18:12:57 »
No "Ñ" in Europa kit?
Sad for Spain I guess


ñÑ sucks. ¿? sucks more. ¡! insanely sucks. áéíóú and àèìòù, as well—Everything written with no "Español" keyboard, but with a Danish international (My own version).

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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #27 on: Sun, 03 October 2021, 06:25:53 »
if only there were r0 available  :(

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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #28 on: Sun, 03 October 2021, 07:04:56 »
nice, step on it.

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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #29 on: Sun, 03 October 2021, 15:00:54 »
You never miss!  ;D In for every kit. Very excited for this.

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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #30 on: Mon, 04 October 2021, 04:00:38 »
No "Ñ" in Europa kit?
Sad for Spain I guess

>EUROPA SET!!
>it contains only UKNorDE

Yeah. Typical.

I understand the frustration, but international kits for GMK sets are just too expensive with the existing languages already. Adding Mediterranean layouts to that, which have a very low adoption rate going by previous sets (I'll have to make a statistic for Milkshake, it supported those languages as well), just makes it too cost prohibitive.

Is it possible to know what ral are you running with?

Can we know the RAL? even if it’s an estimate?

Currently I have multiple RAL tones selected as candidates for the beige color, as I have to see how they turn out as ABS plastic when we do the samples. 080 90 05 Japanweiss one, but RAL 1013 Perlweiss (the beige from GMK Noire) is also a potential candidate, I'll be able to evaluate that one when that set ships as Japanweiss might be a touch too light.

Oblotzky I love you, but why must you do me dirty like this? No 1.5U Supers is so sad :(

6u spacebars?

Sad to see that R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn are missing for 65% users. I like it otherwise.

Those would be keys for a Extension kit, which I opted to drop for the first round of the set to keep it condensed and easier to hit MOQ.

I believe the R1 Page Up besides the R1 End and Delete keys should be an R1 Page Down.

You are correct! Thanks for spotting that error.

if only there were r0 available  :(

I did strongly consider it, and I do like a fully sculpted Cherry profile, but I'm always worried that it's too aggressive for the broader audience. And I want this set to have a wide appeal to ensure it hits the targeted MOQ's.

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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #31 on: Tue, 05 October 2021, 10:56:05 »
Dear Oblotzky, I suggest you rename the Europa kit to Norde or something in that line because calling it Europa implies that it may cover most European countries, which is not the case. The name produces expectations that it does not intend.

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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #32 on: Tue, 05 October 2021, 12:58:47 »
>EUROPA SET!!
>it contains only UKNorDE

Yeah. Typical.
Was about to say it, a ISO-DE kit is understandable, Germany is the most populated european country, but nordic kit ? The nordic countries have a combined population of 26 millions...
France ? 67 millions. Italy ? 59 millions. Spain ? 47 millions. Poland ? 37 millions. I think you get my point.

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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #33 on: Tue, 05 October 2021, 13:05:20 »
Me likey.

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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #34 on: Tue, 05 October 2021, 17:13:50 »
Dear Oblotzky, I suggest you rename the Europa kit to Norde or something in that line because calling it Europa implies that it may cover most European countries, which is not the case. The name produces expectations that it does not intend.

The idea was to have German names for all the kits, so I went with Europa instead of International. Technically International should be a worse name when it comes to implied coverage, because International would be every layout in the world. But given that International is a German word as well, and people are used to that kit name for the coverage, I will change the name for the kit. Just remember to pronounce it in German when you read it out loud!

>EUROPA SET!!
>it contains only UKNorDE

Yeah. Typical.
Was about to say it, a ISO-DE kit is understandable, Germany is the most populated european country, but nordic kit ? The nordic countries have a combined population of 26 millions...
France ? 67 millions. Italy ? 59 millions. Spain ? 47 millions. Poland ? 37 millions. I think you get my point.

Population does not directly correlate to participation. People from the Nordic region have been very involved in the keyboard hobby. I just checked the sales for the past 12 months. Orders to Denmark, Norway, Sweden and Finland (a combined Population of 27m) are 2.8x the sales of Spain (47m people), 4.87x if adjusted per capita. You could argue that the sets with International kits have higher sales in the Nordic countries compared to Spain as their layout is covered, but I would guesstimate that when accounted for that, it brings the factor down to 2.5x or so as sets with International kits are few compared to all the items I sell.
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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #35 on: Tue, 05 October 2021, 23:09:13 »
That is solid logic, and I agree that people from south European countries are not well represented in MK group buys, maybe because so few of them include special kits for their layouts. It may be hard to say if the offering limits their involvement or their lack of participation limit the offerings.

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« Reply #36 on: Wed, 06 October 2021, 07:58:21 »
That is solid logic, and I agree that people from south European countries are not well represented in MK group buys, maybe because so few of them include special kits for their layouts. It may be hard to say if the offering limits their involvement or their lack of participation limit the offerings.
From my own experience IT sector is much more developed in Nordic countries compared to Italy and Spain, considering a lot of people in the community are either programmers or at least related to IT, it makes sense.

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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #37 on: Wed, 06 October 2021, 08:44:01 »
From my own experience IT sector is much more developed in Nordic countries compared to Italy and Spain [...]

as an Italian programmer, this is BS (:
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« Reply #38 on: Wed, 06 October 2021, 15:10:47 »
From my own experience IT sector is much more developed in Nordic countries compared to Italy and Spain [...]

as an Italian programmer, this is BS (:


Jeje, yet, personal experience does not represent a trend. The fact is that GB with other than Norde+UK sets had not had enough demand. Again, either demand commands offer or the opposite the bottom line is to include such sets in a double shot GB does not make sense. Sorry.

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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #39 on: Thu, 07 October 2021, 08:13:52 »
Legend error corrected in base kit, SwagKeys added as South Korean proxy  :thumb:

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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #40 on: Mon, 11 October 2021, 07:39:35 »
No1/60 renders added! See you on Friday  :thumb:






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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #41 on: Mon, 11 October 2021, 13:05:11 »
isn't the usb port centered on a 1/60?

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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #42 on: Mon, 11 October 2021, 15:50:56 »
isn't the usb port centered on a 1/60?

Not on the initial revision, which was the version available to pikku for the renders. The latest one has a centered port and also KC logo engraved on the back. A keen eye!

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« Reply #43 on: Tue, 12 October 2021, 08:10:07 »
Boy howdy this looks fantastic, count me in! Nice work!!!
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« Reply #44 on: Sat, 16 October 2021, 12:33:39 »
Could you elaborate on the decision to use two row mod text for "Page Up", "Page Down", "Num Lock". But left the "Print", "Scroll", and "Pause" keys as single row text?

It just seems kinda weird
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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #45 on: Mon, 18 October 2021, 15:45:59 »
Deskhero overslept a bit but all vendors are now live!

Could you elaborate on the decision to use two row mod text for "Page Up", "Page Down", "Num Lock". But left the "Print", "Scroll", and "Pause" keys as single row text?

It just seems kinda weird

Those legends are something I am going back and forth on. I do like single line legends, but don't really like abbreviations like Pg Up.

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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #46 on: Tue, 19 October 2021, 05:17:50 »
Population does not directly correlate to participation. People from the Nordic region have been very involved in the keyboard hobby. I just checked the sales for the past 12 months. Orders to Denmark, Norway, Sweden and Finland (a combined Population of 27m) are 2.8x the sales of Spain (47m people), 4.87x if adjusted per capita. You could argue that the sets with International kits have higher sales in the Nordic countries compared to Spain as their layout is covered, but I would guesstimate that when accounted for that, it brings the factor down to 2.5x or so as sets with International kits are few compared to all the items I sell.

not true, GMK Nordeuk++ was already created and bought without any hassles.
Recent GMK Electric GB also contained Nordeuk++ addon ($59). It's still a mystery to me why a regular Norde addon costs the same in so many GBs, and why GB runners don't choose the Nordeuk++ kit as a standard instead, which was developed by GH users in common effort/discussion/colaboration (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=99984.0).
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« Reply #47 on: Tue, 19 October 2021, 15:52:38 »
It's soooo clean! I'm in

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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #48 on: Fri, 22 October 2021, 14:32:21 »
I really like this! Great work

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Re: [GB] GMK Klassiker - Launches October 15th 2021
« Reply #49 on: Sat, 23 October 2021, 11:44:46 »
Klassiker refreshing

No Numpad sub legends

⏎ Return for a bit of flavor

Caps
Lock


Page
Down
etc

OG. Line break legends are great. Unlike abbreviated 'Caps' on a stepped caps lock.


On brand — love the details put in here and previous sets Oblo (similarly for T0mb3ry and Hiney keysets with them line breaks)

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