healthcare benefits starting to kick in

[keyboardlover]

keyboard lover is using an inductive reasoning (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductive_reasoning ) which means that the only thing that counts is his own experience, it's totally non refutable and can always bring some more arguments till infinite.
this kind of reasoning has been put down by all epistemologists as it can't prove anything

i think debating furthermore can be just for fun as nothing really interesting can come from it

Makes sense to me. You're probably right.

[wellington1869]

nyt editorial tears republican "pledge to america"  platform a new *******.

[wellington1869]

Some smarter folks already understood my point and didn't post further (like Patrick mentioned).

you mean where he said you suffer from the availability heuristic? yea, he's right.

[keyboardlover]

you mean where he said you suffer from the availability heuristic? yea, he's right.

Yea. that's clearly the case. As you say "hurr hurrrrrrrrr"


Obama's plan is a much tougher sell than Welly would have you believe with all his bull****.

[wellington1869]

i dont know keyboard, look at your 'opposition' for instance. it seems mainly based on the insistence that the poor and the sick are 'whiners'.  I'm sure some percentage of americans will buy that, but not sure you're going win elections with it.

as far as whats a tougher sell, when 75% of americans are against the status quo in healthcare, and the repubs are campaigning on a platform of returning to the status quo, well, that gives the dems selling opportunities. Whether they successfully run with them and bring them home is another matter, but its nice to have them.

[keyboardlover]

i dont know keyboard, look at your 'opposition' for instance. it seems mainly based on the insistence that the poor and the sick are 'whiners'.  I'm sure some percentage of americans will buy that, but not sure you're going win elections with it.

as far as whats a tougher sell, when 75% of americans are against the status quo in healthcare, and the repubs are campaigning on a platform of returning to the status quo, well, that gives the dems selling opportunities. Whether they successfully run with them and bring them home is another matter, but its nice to have them.

This guy definitely gets it.



pikapika was right...continuing to post in this thread IS fun!

[wellington1869]

you're making even less sense than usual... not that you've completed a single thought in this entire thread. Oh well.

[keyboardlover]

you're making even less sense than usual... not that you've completed a single thought in this entire thread. Oh well.

[keyboardlover]

There are so many hilarious ones...I had no idea

[keyboardlover]

Only problem is that ObamaCare doesn't cover constipation



Supposedly, Obama's condition developed from constantly lying through his teeth every day for years and years. That's just a rumor though.

[wellington1869]

lol, keyboard, so your true colors are coming out.  All this was for you was an opportunity for some cheap obama bashing.  No wonder you're against healthcare.

[wellington1869]

so keyboard, do you think obama is a US citizen?   Come on, surprise me!

[keyboardlover]

lol, keyboard, so your true colors are coming out.  All this was for you was an opportunity for some cheap obama bashing.  No wonder you're against healthcare.

Nah, I already made my point. Since you continue to troll, I figure the most fun way to fight trolling is with more trolling.

Plus, I think that

YOU'RE AWESOME =)

[wellington1869]

says the troll.

this was a thread about healthcare until you derailed it. if you dont want to talk about healthcare (you never did, obviously) why are you still posting on this thread?

all my posts have to do with healthcare of its consequences - yours dont. So who's trolling? Douchebag.

Feel free to go start your own thread called "my favorite pics of obama". Why the **** are you posting them here?
Asswipe.

[keyboardlover]

says the troll.

this was a thread about healthcare until you derailed it. if you dont want to talk about healthcare (you never did, obviously) why are you still posting on this thread?

all my posts have to do with healthcare of its consequences - yours dont. So who's trolling? Douchebag.

Who's trolling? Well, who created the troll-bait thread in the first place?

Well, you did buddy

[wellington1869]

this is brilliant. So to cap off his stellar run of sociopathic nonsense, keyboardlover has just accused me of trolling:
a) in my own thread
b) and because i was staying on topic.

what the **** is wrong with you?!

[wellington1869]

want to bring it on keyboard? I'm looking forward to the next thread that you open.

[keyboardlover]

want to bring it on keyboard? I'm looking forward to the next thread that you open.

Bring it on?! Oh it's already been bah-rought!



Seriously Welly, don't get sentimental. It's only teh Internets.

[keyboardlover]

this is brilliant. So to cap off his stellar run of sociopathic nonsense, keyboardlover has just accused me of trolling:
a) in my own thread
b) and because i was staying on topic.

what the **** is wrong with you?!

Dude, I can't be a sociopath. I like ice cream. Sociopaths don't like ice cream.

Do you like ice cream? Hell, even Obama likes ice cream.



Getting back on topic, Obama recently completely rewrote his bill. The title has changed from 'Healthcare for everyone' to 'Ice cream for everyone' after senior advisors told him that the original bill wasn't feasable. Unfortunately, healthcare will remain the same but the ice cream WILL be a reality. Expect a 15% tax increase however, as the import of all this ice cream from China will NOT be cheap.

[maclover]

Republicans: 0
Internet: 1

[ricercar]

we know from experience that anything can be done with hard work and drive. And I'm the one missing the point?

Levitate your body using only your mind. Teleport to my home today and show me. Come on, I want to see you.

There are less extreme things that can't be done. Your arguments in this vein are sloppy and easily proven wrong.

[keyboardlover]

Republicans: 0
Internet: 1

Clearly.

Levitate your body using only your mind. Teleport to my home today and show me. Come on, I want to see you.

There are less extreme things that can't be done. Your arguments in this vein are sloppy and easily proven wrong.

Two highly relevant and thought-provoking statements. Well done!

Obama approves:



There was a pretty famous guy once who said nothing is impossible...who was it...?
Oh yea, Albert Einstein.

[keyboardlover]

want to bring it on keyboard? I'm looking forward to the next thread that you open.

Seriously though, I don't get why you think I don't like Obama. I like Obama as a person. I just wish he'd spend more time creating policies that will have some kind of positive benefit (unlike free ice cream) and spend less time on his burgeoning movie career.

[Shawn Stanford]

[keyboardlover]

What an interesting Lolcat.



I wonder how many Lolcats Shawn has saved on his hard drive, just waiting for the right opportunity to use them?

[itlnstln]

After all of this, all I have to say is that Shawn Stafford wins the thread.

[keyboardlover]

After all of this, all I have to say is that Shawn Stafford wins the thread.

I agree. His lolcat was brilliant!

Edit: If the ice cream wasn't silly enough, now Obama wants to watch you fap.

[wellington1869]

a gen-u-ine troll. Kinda sad that thats all he is after carrying this thread 15 pages longer than it should have gone.

[wellington1869]

I wouldnt be surprised if he's a racist little **** too.

[keyboardlover]

5 star thread.

Agreed =)

[ricercar]

After all of this, all I have to say is that Shawn Stafford wins the thread.

It seems evident that the arguments opposing the majority of informed rational arguments is not itself informed rational argument.

[keyboardlover]

It seems evident that the arguments opposing the majority of informed rational arguments is not itself informed rational argument.

Exactly.

[itlnstln]

It seems evident that the arguments opposing the majority of informed rational arguments is not itself informed rational argument.

Exactly.

Uh huh.

[Shawn Stanford]

Hmm... After 30 years I'm brushing up on algebra so I can CLEP my way into some math credits I need for the Army. So, let me flex my newly-recovered match muscles...

It seems evident that the arguments opposing the majority of informed rational arguments is not itself informed rational argument.

Okay, if we let i represent 'informed rational arguments'...

and o represent those arguments opposing informed rational arguments...

Then we can say i ≠ o.

So, if i ≠ o, then clearly an argument opposed to an informed rational argument can not itself be a rational argument (o ≠ i).

Exactly.

For the record and speaking as an Obama supporter, this ****e is all WIN:

[keyboardlover]

Hmm... After 30 years I'm brushing up on algebra so I can CLEP my way into some math credits I need for the Army. So, let me flex my newly-recovered match muscles...

After 30 years you had to brush up on algebra in order to be able to compare two variables? I thought you were a programmer? And...what is a 'match muscle'?

The American education system has certainly not failed this guy!

For the record and speaking as an Obama supporter, this ****e is all WIN

Well duh, that's why I posted it. Glad to see we're on the same page. It took Welly a while, but I think he's come around too.

[keyboardlover]

Intelligence.



Obama haz it too.

[Shawn Stanford]

After 30 years you had to brush up on algebra in order to be able to compare two variables? I thought you were a programmer? The American education system has certainly not failed this guy!

Sadly, there's a difference between writing code and writing algebraic equations. Anyway, you try letting a middle-school science cool for 30 years and then try bootstrapping yourself to a college level in it.

Well duh, that's why I posted it. Glad to see we're on the same page. It took Welly a while, but I think he's come around too.

We both think Obama is awesome? Sweet! That means now we can start swapping recipes and wishing Bill Clinton could run again...

[keyboardlover]

We both think Obama is awesome? Sweet! That means now we can start swapping recipes and wishing Bill Clinton could run again...

Bill Clinton was pretty awesome. Remember when he bombed Afghanistan and got the Taliban all angry with us? That was an epic win.



Did you know Osama Bin Laden was a commander in this conflict?
And people wonder why he had such a big chip on his shoulder when he lead the 9/11 attacks...

[Shawn Stanford]

I love that man SO MUCH...

[ricercar]

Last time I was a board junkie, it was an NVIDIA fanboi site where they were all rich republican teenagers parroting their parents' conservative values and buying $400 video cards. They talked like this about Reagan/Bush.

[Shawn Stanford]

Conservatives still go on about Reagan like he was God's other son.

[ch_123]

You have to admit it - Reagan had pretty cool hair.

[keyboardlover]

Conservatives still go on about Reagan like he was God's other son.

I find that Democrats still do the same about Clinton and Obama (except for the smart ones I know, who've realized Obama is a liar and that Clinton was the one who brought on 9/11.) Funny how the same Democrats who claim Clinton was great complain about Bush starting innappropriate wars. When I tell them about Clinton bombing Afghanistan I like to sit back and listen to the sound of their brains melting out their ears.

Plus Clinton listens to Michael Bolton. That's just creepy.



Nancy Pelosi is bringing yet even MORE credibility to Obama's plans - by telling college grads to sit back and relax instead of going out to get jobs. Once they have you lazy and not working - that's when the mind control begins!

[lam47]

If we didn't have the NHS in this country I would be dead right now!

[Shawn Stanford]

I find that Democrats still do the same about Clinton and Obama (except for the smart ones I know, who've realized Obama is a liar and that Clinton was the one who brought on 9/11.)

1. Show me a President in the last thirty years who didn't lie. They're politicians...

2. "... Clinton was the one who brought on 9/11.) ..." Time to crimp a little more tinfoil on your antennae. (And don't bother ****ting a bunch of 9/11 conspiracy/blame sites at me, I don't have the time or patience.)

Funny how the same Democrats who claim Clinton was great complain about Bush starting innappropriate wars. When I tell them about Clinton bombing Afghanistan I like to sit back and listen to the sound of their brains melting out their ears.

Oh, I see what you did there. Happily, I'm a lifelong Republican and therefore immune to your cunning ploy.

Of course, I like to point out that corporation-busting, unionizing and environmental activism were all Republican values. Most GOPers with no sense of the history of our party (which is most GOPers) turn blue when that comes up.

Sadly for the GOP,  for the last twenty years or more the Democrats have championed traditional Republican values better than the Republican Party...

[keyboardlover]

Sadly for the GOP,  for the last twenty years or more the Democrats have championed traditional Republican values better than the Republican Party...

I always KNEW Obama was a Republican in disguise!

[itlnstln]

If we didn't have the NHS in this country I would be dead right now!

If you didn't have NHS in your country, my mom wouldn't be able to walk right now.

Glad to see you back, Lam.

[Shawn Stanford]

If we had healthcare reform two years ago, my son wouldn't have had to go to court to get his hospital, rehabilitation and medical equipment bills paid for.

[keyboardlover]

The inevitable question: why didn't these people already have healthcare?

[Shawn Stanford]

Because healthcare is neither affordable nor available to everyone, despite their best efforts. That's what the reform is supposed to fix, and it will.