This year may be biblical

[tp4tissue]

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 The world could breach 1.5 degrees of warming for the first time

El Niño (This year) could -- for the first time -- push the world past 1.5 degrees Celsius of warming above the pre-industrial levels of the mid-to-late 1800s.

Compared to pre-industrial temperatures. Scientists consider 1.5 degrees of warming as a key tipping point, beyond which the chances of extreme flooding, drought, wildfires and food shortages could increase dramatically.

A strong El Niño could push the planet to that point, Scaife said, even if only temporarily.

"We will probably have, in 2024, the warmest year globally on record," Josef Ludescher a senior scientist at Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research
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Australia due to their latitude breached 1.52 Celcius in 2019, climate change will affect them more quickly before the Americas. This breakthrough there brought upon "Black Summer." where an area of ~250,000 km^2 burned, the size of wyoming.  this was also the spark of their major climate upheaval, student protests.

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For the past 3 years, despite record setting temperatures each year, we had the luck of La-Nina 3x in the row, a cooling (weather) event in the ocean,  THIS YEAR, it's going to be El-Nino, a potentially apocalyptic warming event.

Tp4 highly recommends "Burning (2021)" Documentary

[CaesarAZealad]

Aren't you a ray of sunshine :\

[tp4tissue]

[tp4tissue]

OMG...  SUPER EL' Niño

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/apr/12/climate-models-warn-of-possible-super-el-nino-before-end-of-year

[fohat.digs]

The one thing that has tended to be true about forecasts of future global warming is that they usually dramatically underestimate what actually happens.

[CaesarAZealad]

Gotta stay positive in the face of certain doom, so here's my silver lining: At the rate this is going the billionaires won't have enough time to escape into space by the time the world ends.
I'm not actually gonna start prepping for the end of the world, but I will say that I'm gonna start valuing each day a bit more than I used to.

[tp4tissue]

people fail to grasp "Exponential" , disasters will become "Exponentially WORSE"

[fohat.digs]

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-37649-9

TL;DR - sea level around New Orleans has risen 8 inches = 20 centimeters since the time of Hurricane Katrina

[tp4tissue]

their replacement levee system isn't even up to the spec of the original which busted wide open, it's only enough to minimally qualify for insurance.

[CaesarAZealad]

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-37649-9

TL;DR - sea level around New Orleans has risen 8 inches = 20 centimeters since the time of Hurricane Katrina

If I lose Massachusetts to global warming I will dedicate the rest of my life to destroying everything that took my home from me

[fohat.digs]

If I lose Massachusetts to global warming

Massachusetts gets up to a thousand thousand meters high in the west, you will probably only lose the first meter or 2 during your lifetime.
Revenge is a fool's errand, the past has passed. Expend your energies and rescue the future from the Republicans.

[CaesarAZealad]

If I lose Massachusetts to global warming

Massachusetts gets up to a thousand thousand meters high in the west, you will probably only lose the first meter or 2 during your lifetime.
Revenge is a fool's errand, the past has passed. Expend your energies and rescue the future from the Republicans.

You're assuming death will stop me.

[fohat.digs]

Ft Lauderdale, Florida (a little North of Miami) got almost  2  FEET  (2/3 of a meter) of rain in just seven (7) hours yesterday.

Their previous record was about a foot and a half (half a meter) of rain in 3 days ....

https://www.thenextmiami.com/the-2022-list-of-every-supertall-tower-currently-being-planned-in-miami/

[pixelpusher]

Just another great year for records   

[chyros]

I'm gonna drown if this keeps up D; .

[tp4tissue]

This might be it gekhfam..  we' in it now !!

Scientists scratching their heads.  Is this the tipping point ? Have we maxed out the ocean's absorption potential.

Ocean Temperature

[fohat.digs]

We may also find out how utterly dependant on satellites and GPS we have become when solar flares fry the electronics in them.
https://www.businessinsider.com/sun-more-active-solar-storms-auroras-power-outages-grounded-flights-2023-2

If you haven't read about the Carrington Event  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrington_Event  you should.

[tp4tissue]

BTW,  the Dust Bowl is back..

https://www.cnn.com/videos/weather/2023/05/01/illinois-deadly-dust-storm-i-55-vpx.cnn

[tp4tissue]

They've resorted to Prayer in Spain for RAIN.

Olive groves parched due to only receiving 1/5th of the average amount of rainfall.

Yields decimated, 55% lower than previous year,  commodity food oil prices at highest levels.

[yiuoterw]

Hey, look at the silver lining.
If climate change is getting worse, at this rate we won't have to worry about Florida for much longer!

[tp4tissue]

Hey, look at the silver lining.
If climate change is getting worse, at this rate we won't have to worry about Florida for much longer!

I get your funny yiuoterw, damn that florida.

But I must caution fellow humans,  it's going to take the net efforts of EVERY person's climate responsible actions to turn this disaster around.  All hands on deck.

[Rhienfo]

I want to stay hopeful about this, but I'm not very optimistic about this, not only does it seem we have to change a lot of the aspects of living (we as a society may not want to do some of that) but we also need to convince corporations to stop damaging the planet, but of course that would mean losing some profit, but they don't want to do that sadly.

[fohat.digs]

we won't have to worry about Florida for much longer!

Well, Orlando is 20-40 meters above sea level, so it will take a while before the water gets that high.

[tp4tissue]

I want to stay hopeful about this, but I'm not very optimistic about this, not only does it seem we have to change a lot of the aspects of living (we as a society may not want to do some of that) but we also need to convince corporations to stop damaging the planet, but of course that would mean losing some profit, but they don't want to do that sadly.

It's both  top down and bottom up.

Animal agriculture is the biggest single polluter accounting for up to 87% of net green house emission, the key difference in statistics is that the typical number you hear between 15 and 30% does NOT account for the opportunity cost of LAND USE which would otherwise be forest instead of corn,soy.

SOURCE: Salesh Rao,   https://climatehealers.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/JES-Rao.pdf

Animal agriculture in growing feed-crop is responsible for 90% of amazon deforestation.

From the top down, the producers have to switch to alternative protein product other than animals.

From the bottom up, we as consumers have to stop buying destructive livestock. That's our vote.

[tp4tissue]

we won't have to worry about Florida for much longer!

Well, Orlando is 20-40 meters above sea level, so it will take a while before the water gets that high.

It doesn't take that much, + the tide, another meter will decimate florida. They already have uncontrollable flooding in many urban areas.

The damage will be exponential and cascade,  the insurance companies are already pulling out, much like new orleans. The new orleans's new levy is lower spec than the previous levy which failed. It was only built to minimally qualify for insurance.

Rel-estate is a bubble economy because it has a floating value, in every case Yale/Harvard studies have shown that it's grossly overvalued by several trillion, as to not account for climate risk of properties in danger of unsustainable water, burning forests, severe catastrophic storms.

[tp4tissue]

Alberta canada righ nao.. various provinces of canada experiencing 10-15 degrees above normal seasonal temperatures.

This color has rgb value, 220, 190, 138, css, Burly Wood.

Zoom in, ENJOY the Burly wood !!

[fohat.digs]

+ the tide, another meter will decimate florida.

Can you believe this crap? What are they thinking?

https://www.condoblackbook.com/blog/february-2023-miami-s-new-development-and-pre-construction-condo-news/

[tp4tissue]

Florida is a stronghold of mob and cartel money. They're not exactly forward looking.

Their primary ideology is apathy. Our own government that's in bed with these people are identical, so everyone is to blame.

[chyros]

we won't have to worry about Florida for much longer!

Well, Orlando is 20-40 meters above sea level, so it will take a while before the water gets that high.

Meanwhile at 1 m above sea level....  :')

[fohat.digs]

at 1 m above sea level

Do you rent or own?

[chyros]

at 1 m above sea level

Do you rent or own?

Rent, no way I can buy a house.

[fohat.digs]

Rent, no way I can buy

I was being snarky, I have a friend with a house at the beach, actually on a small island, that will go under early.

You Dutch have always been very clever, but I suppose that this new task might be looking insurmountable.

[tp4tissue]

Sky Color, rgb 255, 219, 163, css, Navajo White.

Sun Color, rgb 244, 154, 164, css, Dark Salmon

[tp4tissue]

Northern Italy, Emilia Romagna region

20,000 now homeless, 13 dead.

[tp4tissue]

Shabelle River, Beledweyne, Somalia, burst banks, 250,000 people have fled homes.

Peoples who contributed the least to climate change will pay the most devastating price.

[Rhienfo]

Northern Italy, Emilia Romagna region

20,000 now homeless, 13 dead.

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Shabelle River, Beledweyne, Somalia, burst banks, 250,000 people have fled homes.

Peoples who contributed the least to climate change will pay the most devastating price.

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This is actually so tragic, I hope these people will be ok

[tp4tissue]

This economic system is stupid. They've reached deals in the Western States to cut water use to "SAVE" the Colorado river/lake system.

That deal involves PAYING ~1 BILLION dollars to the various industries to "conserve" water through the inflation reduction act.

The Tax payers are paying them to NOT do something?

It's like being paid not to do work.

[tp4tissue]

God damn it, the bad news doesn't end,

Upper atmosphere Rapidly Cooling at the result of Lower atmosphere Warming has knock on effects from irreparable Arctic Ozone hole to Satellite collision.

Big article, difficult to summarize.

https://www.wired.com/story/the-upper-atmosphere-is-cooling-prompting-new-climate-concerns/

[fohat.digs]

! ! !

one excerpt:

One of the most turbulent of these phenomena is known as sudden stratospheric warming. Westerly winds in the stratosphere periodically reverse, resulting in big temperatures swings, during which parts of the stratosphere can warm by as much as 90 degrees F (50 degrees C) in a couple of days.

This is typically accompanied by a rapid sinking of air that pushes onto the Atlantic jet stream at the top of the troposphere. The jet stream, which drives weather systems widely across the Northern Hemisphere, begins to snake. This disturbance can cause a variety of extreme weather, from persistent intense rains to summer droughts and “blocking highs” that can cause weeks of intense cold winter weather from eastern North America to Europe and parts of Asia.

[tp4tissue]

150 wildfires in Quebec Canada right now, 110 deemed out of control by forestry service.

Haze covers large swaths of east coast USA. Smoggy Smoke smell fills the air,  Purple Air quality index, NYC enveloped, RED SUN.

[Aquarius]

it's hot today

[fohat.digs]

Who knew?

[Rhienfo]

Who knew?

People have known this was an issue for ages, but they don't care because they are making a lot of money. corporations will only do something if it affects them.

This video sums it up perfectly (and it's really funny too)

[TerryMathews]

It's God's punishment for ignorning the teachings of Jesus Christ and hating the LGBTQ+ community.

(Hey, if the right gets to claim every natural disaster as an indictment against the left, why not the opposite)

[fohat.digs]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events

[kurplop]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events

That’s great. In 200 years they will be able to add all of the current green-zealots to the list of apocalyptic doomsayers. How silly things look in hindsight.

[tp4tissue]

Up to 500 refugees died off a sunk migrant boat headed form libya to greece, including 100+ children.

The boat was overloaded with 750 passengers. ~100 rescued, ~78 dead, the rest missing at sea (probably dead).

So it seems, even for water route, future climate refugees can expect pretty poor odds of survival.

[tp4tissue]

Let's GOOOOOOO !!

temperature update.

[nitrosonic]

The world could breach 1.5 degrees of warming for the first time. El Niño (This year) could -- for the first time -- push the world past 1.5 degrees Celsius of warming above the pre-industrial levels of the mid-to-late 1800s. Compared to pre-industrial temperatures. Scientists consider 1.5 degrees of warming as a key tipping point, beyond which the chances of extreme flooding, drought, wildfires, and food shortages could increase dramatically. Regarding the fact that this year can be biblical, I think that this is pure manipulation. Religion has always been used as a tool for crowd control, I read about it here https://writingbros.com/essay-examples/manipulation-of-religion-in-handmaids-tale/  when looking for materials for my college studies. I think that everything will be the same as in 2012, that is, no way. A strong El Niño could push the planet to that point, Scaife said, even if only temporarily. "We will probably have, in 2024, the warmest year globally on record," Josef Ludescher a senior scientist at Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research.

Let's live until the end of 2023 first... 

[tp4tissue]

Texas Heat Dome, Several days of 100F heat already, which typically does not occur until AUGUST, it's not even July.

What Texas really needs to prepare for is Super Flood Risk.  What moisture goes up, must come Down.

[tp4tissue]

The writing on the fever patches says, I don't have a fever.

Shanghai Heatwave

[tp4tissue]

Meanwhile if Florida,  MALARIA is BACK..

Don't get bit, skeets

[kurplop]

On a positive note, California is no longer in a drought condition. In fact, most of the reservoirs are full or near full. Had the state spent money on water infrastructure instead of bullet trains to nowhere, we would be exporting water in times of need. Here in SoCal, this has been one of the most pleasant years on record.

[tp4tissue]

The train is part of the decarbonization process.  We need alot more trains.

As for reservoirs,  this is a good year out of a multi decade long drought.  WHICH, is itself part of the desertification process occurring in the west.

Deserts follow civilization, this has always been the case, and we're at that tail end.

[kurplop]

So what you’re saying is that all news is bad news. Even if it looks good.

[fohat.digs]

A very wet winter certainly helped buy the SW some time, but the groundwater there is still severely depleted.

Water is a very precious resource that we all grew up taking for granted and considering almost "free" ....

[tp4tissue]

So what you’re saying is that all news is bad news. Even if it looks good.

Yes, but Tp4 is quite at peace with this, if you think about it, witnessing the-very-END of human civilization in the coming 5-10 years is SUPER Lucky.

Takes 100s of thousands of years for us to come this far, and we got to try all the best stuffs.

If you were born even 100 years ago, the best we had then was some pieces of wood on another piece of wood, the pinnacle of entertainment.

[kurplop]

A very wet winter certainly helped buy the SW some time, but the groundwater there is still severely depleted.

Water is a very precious resource that we all grew up taking for granted and considering almost "free" ....

Yes, I agree. California has had cyclical drought/abundant rainfall years for quite some time. By now California politicians should have recognized the need for more reservoirs and collection areas to replenish the aquaphors which have been critically compromised because of bad policies. This is not a new problem.

So what you’re saying is that all news is bad news. Even if it looks good.

Yes, but Tp4 is quite at peace with this, if you think about it, witnessing the-very-END of human civilization in the coming 5-10 years is SUPER Lucky.

Takes 100s of thousands of years for us to come this far, and we got to try all the best stuffs.

If you were born even 100 years ago, the best we had then was some pieces of wood on another piece of wood, the pinnacle of entertainment.

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These are exciting times, for a number of reasons. It is important to appreciate the times we live in whether good or bad, do what we can to help, and recognize that some things are out of our control. Personally, I would rather focus on more immediate needs that threaten the public good than apocalyptic predictions that are decades or centuries away.

[tp4tissue]

These are exciting times, for a number of reasons. It is important to appreciate the times we live in whether good or bad, do what we can to help, and recognize that some things are out of our control. Personally, I would rather focus on more immediate needs that threaten the public good than apocalyptic predictions that are decades or centuries away.

Agreed Kurplop, Check out these diagrams based on IPCC data. Remember the food industry actively lobbied them to prevent the IPCC from recommending a plant-based diet as a means of rectifying climate change.

Notice, that Animal Agriculture (growing feed crop), 39 grams of food goes in for 1 gram of meat out, uses up an enormous 37% of the land surface. A deficit of 3 Trillion Trees opportunity cost.

98% of carbon sequestered on Land is in the PLANTS in the white circle.  That is ~3x as much as in the atmosphere.

Because of the deficit in Trees (3 trillion),  the Feed crop we grow for animals only sequester ~2% of carbon.

Animal agriculture is the #1 root cause of climate change.

85% of what humans eat, is grown in that green corner on the right.  The giant RED blob is what we FEED to LIVESTOCK which only accounts for 12% of food, we then bottom trawl 4 billion acres of ocean (size of Russia) to obtain only 3% of food from fish, that is the size of africa



Land Surface Distribution

[kurplop]

TP, I  may not be properly understanding your map and charts but it looks like you may be confusing grazing land with land used for animal crops. Much grazing land isn’t suitable for forests or much of anything but for growing native prairie grasses. These areas require some water but are rarely irrigated. It is incorrect in assuming that much of this land could be transformed into forests. The map shows the North American continent to be a major carbon sequestered of CO2 which supports forestry numbers showing that US forests are as well or better  populated with trees than before 1910.

Animals continues to be an excellent source of protein as well as other needed nutrients for humans. The animals turn plants that are indigestible for humans into food. You may argue about the inhumane treatment of livestock but the land use argument is pretty weak.

[tp4tissue]

TP, I  may not be properly understanding your map and charts but it looks like you may be confusing grazing land with land used for animal crops.

NO, that is not what grazing land is. The vast majority of grazing land is FOREST that we CUT and BURNED over the Millennia, we've done this for roughly 10,000 years.

The Map is only blotched off in color to explain SCALE,  in real life,  It's distributed across the earth's surface with exception of the desert.

It is 100% possible to assume this much land was forest, because we have records of modern deforestation in America, Forest was all there was..

The REVERSE,  reforestation is also true, because again, we've done this to vast areas, and the Trees grow back without human intervention.

[kurplop]

TP, I  may not be properly understanding your map and charts but it looks like you may be confusing grazing land with land used for animal crops.

NO, that is not what grazing land is. The vast majority of grazing land is FOREST that we CUT and BURNED over the Millennia, we've done this for roughly 10,000 years.

In the US?

[tp4tissue]

In the US?

YES, for america the Indians didn't have that capacity. The invaders did.

What is less talked about is, we continuously BURN grazing land, because otherwise the TREES start to grow back.

[kurplop]

In the US?

YES, for america the Indians didn't have that capacity. The invaders did.

What is less talked about is, we continuously BURN grazing land, because otherwise the TREES start to grow back.

How do you explain the increased forests then?

[kurplop]

In the US?

YES, for america the Indians didn't have that capacity. The invaders did.

What is less talked about is, we continuously BURN grazing land, because otherwise the TREES start to grow back.

How do you explain the increased forests?

[fohat.digs]

Huzzah!
Yesterday, July 3, 2023, was the hottest day ever recorded on the Planet Earth.

[tp4tissue]

Record broke only a day after. Apocalyptic Famine soon.

[tp4tissue]

3rd hottest day ever record broken

The end of times is near.

/Veggies

[tp4tissue]

4th day record broken.

[Rhienfo]

Wow... that's extremely morbid info, maybe this will be the sign for the people in charge to actually do something (Probably not sadly)

[fohat.digs]

Here on Earth, we can only blame ourselves.

The Sun doesn't care what we are doing, and has its own behavior. Maybe the northern US will get a show this week.

https://www.npr.org/2023/07/09/1186525577/northern-lights-aurora-borealis-2023

[tp4tissue]

Our grid is also not remotely ready for a CME.

It could quite literally be the end of Humanity, because the failure cascade as all the solid state controllers burn out in our grid, we'll have multiple me1td0wns across the country.

Without proper p0wr infrastructure working, repairs/ coordination can easily become impossible. Each rea(tor in america is equivalent of 6 (hernoby1s worth in the fuel pools alone because they're overfilled.

[tp4tissue]

One wonders if in the distant future, short shorts would become socially acceptable for men to wear, because it'd be too hot otherwise where regular shorts won't cut it..

[Rhienfo]

One wonders if in the distant future, short shorts would become socially acceptable for men to wear, because it'd be too hot otherwise where regular shorts won't cut it..

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I don't know I feel that people will still call it gay or something.

All of this news makes me wants to invest in a sunscreen companies.

[tp4tissue]

So right now, Canada fires have already burned ~20,000,000 acres. That is currently the size of South Carolina.

For perspective, Australia's recent Black Summer, among the most devestating fires mankind has ever witnessed, was ~60,000,000 acres,  that's the size of an entire Wyoming.

Canada fires began 1 month earlier than the normal fire season,  fingers are crossed that they get some "earlier" rain as well,  But the reality may be, it's Canada's Turn for Black Summer.

For perspective, usa's official records began in 1983, recent peaks at 10mil acre in a year.



USA acre burned per year.

[yz]

One wonders if in the distant future, short shorts would become socially acceptable for men to wear, because it'd be too hot otherwise where regular shorts won't cut it..

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that used to be the norm in the NBA in the 60s, gotta bring that back in fashion  :D

[tp4tissue]

Vermont flood,  NICE !! climate change is fake news !!

[fohat.digs]

climate change is fake news

You would think that all those working class guys who have collected arsenals would start going after Republicans for lying to them all these years.

[tp4tissue]

You would think that all those working class guys who have collected arsenals would start going after Republicans for lying to them all these years.

Specific to COAL,  this is going to sound wildly unpopular, but we might need to significantly increase coal burning in the mean time as a temporary measure to stabilized the climate, while we convert the energy FROM said burning into Solar Panels and Wind Power.

Many new scientific papers recently has come out indicating that the pandemic shutdowns which dramatically reduced  Aerosol cover from burning fossil fuels, is what triggered the intense drought and flood situations across asia/ europe/ australia.  and now NOW , USA.

[Rhienfo]

You would think that all those working class guys who have collected arsenals would start going after Republicans for lying to them all these years.

Specific to COAL,  this is going to sound wildly unpopular, but we might need to significantly increase coal burning in the mean time as a temporary measure to stabilized the climate, while we convert the energy FROM said burning into Solar Panels and Wind Power.

Many new scientific papers recently has come out indicating that the pandemic shutdowns which dramatically reduced  Aerosol cover from burning fossil fuels, is what triggered the intense drought and flood situations across asia/ europe/ australia.  and now NOW , USA.

Yeah I could see why we would need to do that, while we definitely need to phase out all of this stuff quickly, we have the infrastructure to speed up coal harvesting and to have a stockpile of it while we build more solar/wind turbines.

We can't comprise or do half measures when it comes to the climate, so if we need to run coal to completely implement the more renewable energy sources than we have to.

[fohat.digs]

Siberia over 100F/38C above the Arctic Circle.

Again.

ps - it was above 90F/32C on the beach at the Arctic Ocean

[tp4tissue]

Siberia over 100F/38C above the Arctic Circle.

Again.

ps - it was above 90F/32C on the beach at the Arctic Ocean

Starting to think 5 to 20 years left of humanity is an over-estimate.

It's probably 2-10 years tops. Once the methane loop pops,  it's nearly game over.

[noisyturtle]

Arizona gonna be 120+ tomorrow
yuck

[Leslieann]

Arizona gonna be 120+ tomorrow
yuck

Arizona heat isn't the same as the rest of the country because it has such insanely low levels of humidity (often single digit humidity).

Typically, 120F in Arizona feels about the same as roughly 100F or so in the midwest.
Not saying it's pleasant or that it won't blast you in the face like a blow dryer when you walk outside but it's not the 120f you would expect.

*I've lived all over the southwest, including Arizona.

[chyros]

Worst weather I've had yet was in Singapore. 32 C in 100 humidity is incredible, all you want to do is flee. It's like it activates a primal instinct in you or something.

45 in Vegas and the Sahara was nowhere near as bad.

[tp4tissue]

Feline Corononavirus killed 300,000 cats in Cyprus,  has likely already left the country, too late for containment.

Good thing cats are typically indoors, but you know, stay away from other cats if you have cats.