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Offline aegrotatio

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HHKB Lite 2 keybounce
« on: Fri, 15 October 2010, 09:05:07 »
I'm noticing keybounce trouble with my HHKB Lite 2, mostly from the shift key, so I get THe and HEllo all the time.

Is this something endemic to these keyboards?  Do they use the same controller as the regular HHKBs do?  Do HHKBs have trouble like this?

THanks in advance
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Offline Moogle Stiltzkin

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« Reply #1 on: Fri, 15 October 2010, 09:38:33 »
are realforce full nkro ?

oh nm.

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Topre Realforce: 6KRO under USB. Can not be used with PS/2 purple adapter. Source.
« Last Edit: Fri, 15 October 2010, 09:50:31 by Moogle Stiltzkin »
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Offline aegrotatio

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HHKB Lite 2 keybounce
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 15 October 2010, 10:29:20 »
I wonder if "keybounce" is the right term for this symptom.  I don't think it is anymore.  Maybe it's just the break of the shift key is slower than I'm used to.  I do this on other keyboards, too.

Oh, and obligatory transposition test:

qwer
qwer
qwer
uiop
uiop
uiop

But when I type "if" or "it" it often ends up "fi" and "ti."  GO figure.
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Offline Moogle Stiltzkin

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« Reply #3 on: Fri, 15 October 2010, 10:31:54 »
What is key bouncing ?
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Current gaming keyboard: Ducky DK-9008 with Cherry Beige/White doubleshots (Cherry Mx Brown)

For my 2nd pc: Cherry G80-1095 HAU Revision 00 (Cherry Mx Black)

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Offline ch_123

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« Reply #4 on: Fri, 15 October 2010, 12:26:31 »
AFAIK, the lite uses particularly poor rubber domes.

And no, they don't have the same controller as the Pro. Capacitive keyboards have all sorts of magick going on in the controller.
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Offline elservo

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« Reply #5 on: Fri, 15 October 2010, 12:46:51 »
It can't be as bad as the Gigaware domes.
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Offline Arc'xer

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« Reply #6 on: Fri, 15 October 2010, 15:19:27 »
Quote from: Moogle Stiltzkin;234188
are realforce full nkro ?

oh nm.


They have a nestled hierarchy PCB matrix. So they actually have full NKRO i.e. redundancy all over the keyboard, just USB spec limited 6+4. Unfortunately, Topre seems to have dropped PS/2 support for most newer boards, which is a shame cause I'm sure there's some who would just like it to work directly with the CPU rather than be polled.

Can't really blame them as they are mostly a business/professional/enthusiast keyboard and they cut back on certain things. But who knows maybe in the future they will come out with some wish list keyboard, they did make a gaming specific keyboard so they probably like to dip their feet into it.
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HHKB Lite 2 keybounce
« Reply #7 on: Fri, 15 October 2010, 15:28:42 »
Quote from: ripster;234178
No keybounce EVAH! on a Topre capacitive.  Nature of the beast.

Sez so on the box too.....

And I thought it was talking about my wife and her friends!  (one of the advantages of over 20K posts is she will never find this one)


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Let's hope they don't all cook your goose.
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