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Offline 8_INCH_FLOPPY

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« Reply #50 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 01:04:39 »
From what I hear, it either prevents cancer, cures disease, and grants immortality, or it causes brain damage and a shortened lifespan.  Researchers haven't decided yet.
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Offline RickyJ

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« Reply #51 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 03:04:34 »
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I always assumed that your inability to quit caffeine without torturous consequences is probably because your lifestyle isn't suitable without it (something else must change, be it less work/stress or more sleep).

That's what caffeine does right? Just acts as a clever substitute to suppress that feeling of impending death that you otherwise didn't fix (by sleep debt recovery most likely).


Um, no.  It's a stimulant for our central nervous system, a psychoactive substance.  The effect leading to dependence/tolerance is it dampens/blocks adenosine (a neurotransmitter chemical) receptors, so your body counters this by increasing the number of the receptors in your nervous system, thus developing a tolerance to caffeine.  Remove the caffeine, and the excess receptors make your body way more sensitive to your standard amount of adenosine (one of its jobs is regulating blood pressure), resulting in reduced blood pressure (mainly in the head) which then causes headaches.

In short, caffeine causes a physical dependence, not a psychological/habitual dependence.
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Offline wellington1869

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« Reply #52 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 03:05:57 »
i've tried quitting coffee a few times. usually for the first 5-7 days I have *massive* headaches, and I pop advils. After that i'm totally fine.  Then I start drinking coffee again.

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« Reply #53 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 03:07:31 »
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I know you guys are probably right, intellectually I know it.  But yet....  It's time for another cup of fresh ground Kona! :wink:.


kona is one of my favs. Very smooth, not as bitter.

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« Reply #54 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 04:23:40 »
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I'll often ask a lady out for coffee.

Me: "You like coffee? Yeah, so do I. It really helps you wake up. Maybe we should wake up together some time?"


In all seriousness, I do. Sitting there, in a comfortable chair, with over priced coffee; give me a intelligent, attractive female, and I can sit and talk for hours, and have done numerous times.

Coffee is something I don't really get, I like it, but I often forget about my warm beverages when on my computer, and rage at myself when I realise that it is cold.

Energy drinks are even worse for you chemical wise, by the way. I'd go back to coffee if I were you, aspartame isn't exactly what I signed up for.

What wellington said about it being psycological is no word of a lie either, you have it in your daily life, and you will have to get over that too.

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« Reply #55 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 05:11:00 »
All of my solutions assume the person who wants to quit coffee doesn't have an personality for addiction and also involves new drugs perhaps more suitable than caffeine.  Well, except the last one.

• next-day air some coca leaves from columbia, taking cocaine in moderation and the way it is meant to be taken, alongside the other coca alkaloids
• brew cacao drinks.  I found it incredibly easy to take cacao nibs, grind them in my thai spice mortar/pestle/watevs (the bowl is large and both grinding components are heavy) into a fine powder/paste, pop that into my espresso machine, and receive cacao, which was better than my previous attempt which was to stuff the grinds into a coffee filter and tea-brew like that or even just drink with cacao grinds in my drink (which is fine with me but...)  Personal preference to add honey, dissolve, then milk, so there's your theobromine and theophylline.
• nicotine patch
• adrafinil/modafinil
• adderall/ritalin
• man the **** up.

I think I actually provided you with a weeks worth of drug choices that, because they vary, will prevent the kind of stupid-robot-coffee-drinking the West apparently engages in.  Of course, it's not for anyone, you might just get an addiction for 6 out of 7 of them...

Maybe you're just drinking coffee for fear of what you hate, or in conjunction with what you love.  So just stop already!  Titrate until physical symptoms show but not when you're hating or loving, until you aren't conditioned anymore, and find a new hobby to associate with those strong emotions that are being evoked for whatever reason (and dont get caught.)

EDIT: when i talk about 7 choices, im including coffee since you're not a crazyman drinking it only once a week.
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« Reply #56 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 05:40:45 »
Quote from: pex

I think I actually provided you with a weeks worth of drug choices that, because they vary, will prevent the kind of stupid-robot-coffee-drinking the West apparently engages in.


Where are you from? People drink coffee all over the world. How is the west any different?

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« Reply #57 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 08:15:16 »
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I'll often ask a lady out for coffee.

Me: "You like coffee? Yeah, so do I. It really helps you wake up. Maybe we should wake up together some time?"


I am not quite sure as to whether this is a joke. I can imagine the whole "wake up together some time" is a joke due to the obvious sexual connotation that would clearly be inappropriate (however funny) for a first interaction.

Offline itlnstln

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« Reply #58 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 08:43:02 »
I was in Dallas working with some consultants, and they had a VKI Latte Lounge.  It's a pretty sweet machine.  It would grind, brew, create the coffee drink all in one interaction and you would just select the drink you want (cappuccino, mochaccino, latte, etc.) from the screen and the whole process would complete in about 30 seconds.  It's wasn't the best I have ever had, but it was at least Starbucks quality.



Offline TexasFlood

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« Reply #59 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 08:47:36 »
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I was in Dallas working with some consultants, and they had a VKI Latte Lounge.  It's a pretty sweet machine.  It would grind, brew, create the coffee drink all in one interaction and you would just select the drink you want (cappuccino, mochaccino, latte, etc.) from the screen and the whole process would complete in about 30 seconds.  It's wasn't the best I have ever had, but it was at least Starbucks quality.

When I first glanced at your post I though it said "It would grind, brew, create and drink the coffee all in one interaction", :wink:.

Offline Lanx

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« Reply #60 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 09:24:52 »
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kona is one of my favs. Very smooth, not as bitter.


in 08 when i was quitting coffee and went to maui i tried one cup of kona and spit it out. Then this year i went to waikiki and tried kona every day (by this time i haven't had a lick of coffee in more than a year) and still spit it out.

long story short if you want to quit coffee for good try hawaii kona coffee!

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« Reply #61 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 09:25:47 »
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« Reply #62 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 09:30:00 »
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Ah, in grad school.  Her parents were professors at Waterloo.

They didn't think much of me.


Did you introduce yourself as "Rispter"?
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« Reply #63 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 09:33:49 »
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No, my college nickname was Rip though.


Was that because you would often rip one after falling asleep in class? :D

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« Reply #64 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 09:43:34 »
Quote

Her parents ... didn't think much of me.


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... I'm gay with a lisp.



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« Reply #65 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 10:45:13 »
MUST ... RESIST ... LAMEME ... GAAAAAAAAAHHH:

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Hey, you're starting to  pick up Welly's techniques from all those Off-Topic debates!

  • Always Misquote
  • Always pivot the post from content to the poster's penis
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sorry.


Technically though, I didn't misquote, I just SELECTIVELY quoted. Also, when I completely change a quote, it's for the lulz. Don't take it personal, it's all in good fun.
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Offline wellington1869

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« Reply #66 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 11:05:39 »
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Where are you from? People drink coffee all over the world. How is the west any different?


seriously. you should see how much coffee they drink in india.  And stronger stuff than starbucks. And ever have turkish coffee? Its like delicious spicy espresso.  Much stronger than western coffee.

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« Reply #67 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 11:07:28 »
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Hey, you're starting to  pick up Welly's techniques from all those Off-Topic debates!

  • Always Misquote
  • Always pivot the post from content to the poster's penis
  • Don't bother reading.  Who has time for that.  But make the reply long to sound better


i prefer ripster's technique, its much simpler:

1. Always veer the conversation towards convincing the OP to buy a blue cherry filco. Ignore everything else in the thread. Submit lego pics if in danger of being found out.

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Offline wellington1869

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« Reply #68 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 11:08:12 »
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Was that because you would often rip one after falling asleep in class? :D


this is why i call him rippy.

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Offline zefrer

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« Reply #69 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 11:08:30 »
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seriously. you should see how much coffee they drink in india.  And stronger stuff than starbucks. And ever have turkish coffee? Its like delicious spicy espresso.  Much stronger than western coffee.


Just don't drink the deposit on the bottom of the cup (turkish coffee). And let it sit for a few minutes before you start drinking.

Offline instantkamera

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« Reply #70 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 11:08:57 »
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« Reply #71 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 11:09:28 »
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Just don't drink the deposit on the bottom of the cup (turkish coffee). And let it sit for a few minutes before you start drinking.


supposedly very awesome, I havent ever had it.
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Offline wellington1869

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« Reply #72 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 11:20:06 »
indian coffee in general is smoother (less bitter) than the south american beans we get in the US. This is probably why i like kona.  Also in india they boil milk rather than water, makes for a smoother creamier coffee experience, very delish.

But starbucks has warped my coffee sensibilities with its 'gasoline' blends. I've gotten used to the bitter and stronger starbucks style now.

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« Reply #73 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 11:20:26 »
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supposedly very awesome, I havent ever had it.


Oh yeah I recommend it if you like coffee. It's espresso sized and can be made with any type of beans as long as they are ground finely enough (powder fine). Most grinders cannot do this but places that sell beans will usually grind them for you specifically to make turkish coffee if you ask.

Google preparation instructions on how to make, it's not hard and you don't need any special appliances. It is hard to make a really good cup tho :)

It's funny cause lots of places have their own variants and call it Armenian coffee or Greek Coffee etc. They're all variants of Turkish Coffee.

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« Reply #74 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 11:24:54 »
when i was little, maybe 3 or 4 years old, whenever my parents had a dinner party, i'd walk around the house to find the empty coffee cups that people had left behind, and i'd drink the remaining 'dregs' of coffee in each cup :)

talk about disgusting. :)

Once my mom discovered that i was habitually doing that she'd scurry around trying to collect all the coffee cups before I got to them :)

But yea, so I absolutely loved the taste of coffee ever since I can remember.

It was a real treat for me in college when I could drink a cup whenever I wanted. (in my household coffee was considered an 'adult' drink and us kids rarely got to drink it until we left home).  As a result I also always associated coffee drinking with some kind of 'grownup' behaviour.

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« Reply #75 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 11:29:10 »
Bringing this back on topic. I suspect that coffee causes transposition errors.

(Sorry couldn't resist)

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« Reply #76 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 11:34:03 »
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Filcos>Das.


oh dems fighting words

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« Reply #77 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 11:52:36 »
I'll send you a pic of my old Filco Zero. :P

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« Reply #78 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 12:13:05 »
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Oh yeah I recommend it if you like coffee. It's espresso sized and can be made with any type of beans as long as they are ground finely enough (powder fine). Most grinders cannot do this but places that sell beans will usually grind them for you specifically to make turkish coffee if you ask.

Google preparation instructions on how to make, it's not hard and you don't need any special appliances. It is hard to make a really good cup tho :)

It's funny cause lots of places have their own variants and call it Armenian coffee or Greek Coffee etc. They're all variants of Turkish Coffee.


I have an unopened burr grinder waiting for me when I move into my new place. I think I will be drop this tea kick Im on once I have room for a proper espresso maker. Im dying to try turkish coffee now though ...
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« Reply #79 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 12:50:21 »
Yea I know, I have friends at work who are mad into it. We actually have several ESE pod machines at work, they are not the best, but better than store bought for lattes (as you can prepare the milk yourself PROPERLY). Since I have moved I have been on the tea since I don't bother with a moka pot without properly steamed milk. I HAVE been eyeing a Racillio Silvia for a while but a buddy told me I can probably get a similar machine from lelit for cheaper, so we'll see.

I may have asked before, but what are you using Rip?
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« Reply #80 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 13:16:13 »
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You don't wanna know.  Trust me.

a ****ing Breville? or saeco? TASSIMO? Nespresso?? Dolche GUSTO???  TELL ME MAN!
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« Reply #81 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 13:30:29 »
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A Anita.

This is about as low as you can go for good pours.  And the exchange rate was much much better when I bought mine.


**** son. I thought you were saying you had a POS.

I feel so inadequate (here I go, back to the penis).

I do understand indefinite articles though, so when I own one I'll be sure to call it "an Anita". ;)
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« Reply #82 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 13:37:08 »
Im sure there is a joke about pressure in there somewhere ...

Edit:

that was in regards to your post about your penis. Even funnier joke surely applies to the subsequent post.
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« Reply #83 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 13:40:47 »
Quote from: instantkamera;237366
I have an unopened burr grinder waiting for me when I move into my new place. I think I will be drop this tea kick Im on once I have room for a proper espresso maker. Im dying to try turkish coffee now though ...


there's a new type of coffee machine thats all the rage. (or at least, i didnt find out about it recently and suddenly i'm noticing it everywhere). My sister bought one and was raving about it. I forget the name (something with a K). Basically its made for individual cups (like in a small household, or in an office/corporate setting). Basically you buy these individual cups that have the beans. You pop the cup into the machine and it brews one cup and then you toss it. Seems kind of wasteful but the coffee isnt bad and there's no cleanup (the cup acts as holder and filter, both).

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« Reply #84 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 13:44:05 »
keurig k-cup machine. I should state, for the record, that I HATE drip coffee of all sorts, there is no craftsmanship to brewing a pot 'o coffee. My wife will drink any old swill, and I recommended she try the keurig. Consistent coffee for yourself, and the k-cup system is fairly wide-spread.
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« Reply #85 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 13:45:41 »
my coffee machine has a name too, its called 'welly'.


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Its actually pretty good :) Well, with 3 spoons of brown sugar in it anyway.

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« Reply #86 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 13:45:44 »
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So....funny story (but true).

I talk my business exec friend into one.  He buys identical model.  Can't use it worth **** because.... he's a business exec.   Gets divorced.  Wife gets the espresso machine.

Bwahahahaha!

As you can see I have a pretty sick sense of humor.


This is epic.  Unfortunately, that's what happened to my wine fridge.  I would go get that **** back.  I would go get my wine fridge back, but I can't keep wine around long enough to put in a fridge, and it would only get as cold as 50 F, and I like my whites a little colder.  It's OK, I have a BIG fridge.


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« Reply #87 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 13:47:52 »
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keurig k-cup machine. I should state, for the record, that I HATE drip coffee of all sorts, there is no craftsmanship to brewing a pot 'o coffee. My wife will drink any old swill, and I recommended she try the keurig. Consistent coffee for yourself, and the k-cup system is fairly wide-spread.


yea, thats the one. Keurig.  Its convenient, I'll give it that.


I used to have a coffee press-pot thing.  It was neat (and I suppose the coffee was stronger that way) but the problem I had with it was by the time the coffee was ready, the water in it wasnt really hot anymore. I had a hard time getting a really hot cup of coffee out of it (partly because I put a lot of milk in my coffee, so i need it extra hot coming out of the machine).


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« Reply #88 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 13:48:41 »
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This is epic.  Unfortunately, that's what happened to my wine fridge.  I would go get that **** back.  I would go get my wine fridge back, but I can't keep wine around long enough to put in a fridge, and it would only get as cold as 50 F, and I like my whites a little colder.  It's OK, I have a BIG fridge.



red. no fridge. Warm and fuzzy. Goes well with steak. Problem sloved.



ya, sloved. Joo gtta porblam/?
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« Reply #89 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 13:50:29 »
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yea, thats the one. Keurig.  Its convenient, I'll give it that.


I used to have a coffee press-pot thing.  It was neat (and I suppose the coffee was stronger that way) but the problem I had with it was by the time the coffee was ready, the water in it wasnt really hot anymore. I had a hard time getting a really hot cup of coffee out of it (partly because I put a lot of milk in my coffee, so i need it extra hot coming out of the machine).

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french press is nice with some good fresh beans, a great, ritualistic (hands on) way to make coffee. That I can get behind.
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« Reply #90 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 13:54:10 »
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french press is nice with some good fresh beans, a great, ritualistic (hands on) way to make coffee. That I can get behind.


yea, coffee rituals are soothing.

When studying for exams I have this ritual of boiling the water in a kettle when i needed a break. You can put coffee grounds right in there. You can put some milk and sugar right in it too. Comes out really nice and hot and well-mixed.

I usually dont bother to filter out the grounds, tho you can do that with a simple handheld mesh strainer as you pour it into the cup.  Else just leave the grounds at the bottom (let it sit for a minute and they'll settle, turkish style).

Then, if there's a gypsy around, you can have your fortune read by turning the grounds over onto a table (again, turkish style ;)

rituals are cool.
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« Reply #91 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 13:58:53 »
lol, but seriously, nescafe (is that instant??) + coffee mate?

I feel as though we were in the beer thread talking about GOOD beer and someone said "ya man, coors light ..." :D
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« Reply #92 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 14:02:26 »
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lol, but seriously, nescafe (is that instant??) + coffee mate?

I feel as though we were in the beer thread talking about GOOD beer and someone said "ya man, coors light ..." :D


lol well I have the tasters choice on the shelf at all times, its very easy and quick to make (I have a single-cup coffee maker but usually only use it to give me hot water). So I can have a cup in my hand in less than 60 seconds with no cleanup whatsoever.

of course i'd prefer a real machine... one of these days when I move out of college housing :)

I did try nearly every available brand of instant coffee out there though, and i find tasters choice is definitely a cut above the rest, as far as instants go.

Have you tried starbuck's instant coffee by the way? I think its called "viva" or something. THey sell packets of it in starbucks. I tried one, its really not bad, comes pretty close to regular starbucks coffee. But at a dollar a pop, kind of pricey for instant (I think my per-cup cost with tasters choice is like 10 cents).

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« Reply #93 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 14:11:46 »
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lol well I have the tasters choice on the shelf at all times, its very easy and quick to make (I have a single-cup coffee maker but usually only use it to give me hot water). So I can have a cup in my hand in less than 60 seconds with no cleanup whatsoever.

of course i'd prefer a real machine... one of these days when I move out of college housing :)

I did try nearly every available brand of instant coffee out there though, and i find tasters choice is definitely a cut above the rest, as far as instants go.

Have you tried starbuck's instant coffee by the way? I think its called "viva" or something. THey sell packets of it in starbucks. I tried one, its really not bad, comes pretty close to regular starbucks coffee. But at a dollar a pop, kind of pricey for instant (I think my per-cup cost with tasters choice is like 10 cents).


VIA ... I was just about to mention that. They arent cheap, but my wife swears by them for work, and has started making them in the AM too for herself so she doesnt have to brew a pot. Brother in law said so as well, apparently really good. Like I said, I don't generally drink "coffee" coffee, except the odd Timmies every once in a while!
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« Reply #94 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 14:14:48 »
My coffee machine............


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« Reply #95 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 14:18:22 »
I used to have this self-stirring coffee mug.  To avoid having to even clean the spoon.
It worked really really really well (and was a hoot to use) -- for about 3 weeks :) At which point it stopped working :)  I got the impression from online reviews that that was a lot of people's experience with it. Its too bad, I absolutely loved it :)



see how the girl is giggling in this video as she uses the mug?  I giggled like that every morning while it worked
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« Reply #96 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 14:30:12 »
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keurig k-cup machine. I should state, for the record, that I HATE drip coffee of all sorts, there is no craftsmanship to brewing a pot 'o coffee. My wife will drink any old swill, and I recommended she try the keurig. Consistent coffee for yourself, and the k-cup system is fairly wide-spread.


Is this anything like Senseo?

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I think I'll stick with my fresh ground local roast run through a french press.
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« Reply #97 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 14:42:29 »
similar, im sure, but not as bad as described. Senseo seems more along the lines of the (very popular) tassimo and (much less popular) Dolche Gusto. They suck.

IMO, the only single serving cup/pod systems worth using are the k-cup for drip coffee and ESE pods for espresso. This is mainly because they are somewhat more "open" formats, if you will, which allows one to chose:

a) a machine that suits their needs

b) from a LARGE selection of coffee
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« Reply #98 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 14:44:49 »
Kopi luwak FTW!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kopi_Luwak

It cost about 30$ per 100g... but it's totally worth it... best coffee there is. I use about 100g per month. So it's totally affordable.
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« Reply #99 on: Fri, 22 October 2010, 15:34:35 »
@ripster:
Er.... what? Is it my post you are talking about? Cause I really do use Kopi luwak... and yes, I could take a picture on the beans or a cup of it... but neither of them look any different then any other coffee.
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