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Offline erretter

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We know the memes "It's a money grave" "you can't stop" "it's an addiction" "it's a rabbithole". From my very own experience I can tell: This is all true (to a degree).
So did anybody really quit? I'm trying to slow things down, because too much other stuff is going on in my life, but it's really hard. Since I never smoked, I can't really compare this, but I feel like this is like quitting for a nicotine addict.

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Re: Is someone here, who quit the hobby and is only lurking now?
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 05 May 2024, 07:31:08 »
It's pretty natural for people to lose interest in hobbies, especially ones that are as materialistic as keyboards can be. I'm still wanting keyboards, but I doubt I will be actively purchasing keyboards in a few years, cause there really is only a few things I really want from this hobby. I'll definitely still be in the hobby if it's around (which I feel it will still be), like helping people or still rebuilding or building boards for other people (and of course resin for me)
plus I will probably still be talking to a lot of the cool people I have met in this hobby.

I feel like if you want to regain your passion in this hobby, you will need to engage more with in the diy aspect of the hobby. Creating cases - handwiring etc. If you've done that and you're still not fulfilled, just move onto something that you feel is worth your time, there really is no shame about it.

I don't really think a nicotine addiction is a very good comparison, it's not like keyboards chemically alter your brain to want more keyboards or something like that.
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lubed with tribosys 3203 | like topre a lot, prefer it lubed but did make less tactile but that might have been a skill issue. probably will get more tactile over time as the domes age.
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gateron yellows - lubed with 205g0 - 62g tx mediums - pc plate | probably my favourite keyboard already, feels super nice and sounds pretty good, it's got a great layout as well. probably gonna build this with mx browns, I feel like it would suit the board more.
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stock with silent reds | Pretty cool looking board, the silent reds are actually good, they are smooth and I don't mind the mushiness (it's not even that mushy as well). the layout is pretty weird, but is useable. will probably mod this in the future. maybe a pcb and plate swap, change the keycaps to something dolch like, and also spring swap the springs in the silent reds.


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Offline Tseg

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Re: Is someone here, who quit the hobby and is only lurking now?
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 06 May 2024, 02:17:16 »
I have rotated hobbies for several decades.  The only one I revisited for a few years with additional purchases was my watch collecting… oh, and did buy a specific high end knife after I finally won the maker’s “lottery” after a 4 year wait from my last purchase in the hobby (I could see me doing similar if/when I would get selected for a Key Cult raffle).  I still very much enjoy most of the pieces from most of the hobbies I collected over the years.  There was some downsizing in some hobbies to bare essential grail pieces, like with my camera hobby.

I currently have 7 keyboards (after having given one of my HHKB’s to my son) + waiting on 2 groupbuys (with one also including a numpad).  At this point I feel pretty satiated with keyboards, but pretty much enjoy all the keyboards I own and am glad I dabbled in this hobby, and will continue practicing my typing skills (with my speed having doubled in 3/4 a year and near 100% accuracy).  I imagine I’ll check out KB forums from time to time as I do revisit forums from other hobbies from time to time.  It is interesting how varied forum cultures are, depending what is being collected.  Probably the culture that is most particular that I have trouble getting along with is the snowblower collecting community.  They are crazy opinionated with lots of rules about what can and cannot be said.

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Re: Is someone here, who quit the hobby and is only lurking now?
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 06 May 2024, 05:04:56 »
Thank you two for sharing your thoughts on this topic. A snowblower community? OMG there really is nothing on this world that can't be turned into a hobby :D

For me the most time consuming part of the keyboard hobby is research. Searching for the next best thing, researching on others ideas and how they work out. Of course building stuff your self can be pretty time consuming too, but there is just sooooo much to discover. I mean how many switches are out there?!

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Re: Is someone here, who quit the hobby and is only lurking now?
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 06 May 2024, 08:19:19 »
Let’s just say I’ve spent much more money on fountain pens than keyboards.  At least my vacuum collection helps keep my house clean.

At a certain point my knowledge has become satiated on some hobby aspects, I mean how much can one learn about stabilizers? then Norbauer re-invents them  :confused: , but agree one can become obsessive about learning the nuances.  I do feel like I have come close to reaching the end of the internet on some topics I obsess about.
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Re: Is someone here, who quit the hobby and is only lurking now?
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 06 May 2024, 09:03:50 »
depends, keyboards gone, artisans? that **** is crack
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Re: Is someone here, who quit the hobby and is only lurking now?
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 06 May 2024, 12:41:14 »
I come and go. The hobby is far more sustainable if you let yourself lose interest every so often. It's also fun seeing all the new products / people / trends when you come back
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Re: Is someone here, who quit the hobby and is only lurking now?
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 06 May 2024, 18:20:21 »
Thank you two for sharing your thoughts on this topic. A snowblower community? OMG there really is nothing on this world that can't be turned into a hobby :D

For me the most time consuming part of the keyboard hobby is research. Searching for the next best thing, researching on others ideas and how they work out. Of course building stuff your self can be pretty time consuming too, but there is just sooooo much to discover. I mean how many switches are out there?!

That's not a problem I have now, I kinda know what I want now, and don't really deviate from it, I'll probably just use cherry blacks, browns or like gat x or nixies with like tx springs and a dry lube and nothing else really for all the other few boards that I want to get. For boards and keycaps I just browse geekhack and whatever gets sent in like discords and such. Once you know what you want it's gets a lot easier.

depends, keyboards gone, artisans? that **** is crack

Actually so true about resin

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cherry blacks - unlubed - filmed and springswapped with tx 55g mediums - alu Plate | pretty happy with this, the blacks were cherry picked so they weren't that scratchy to begin with, but currently breaking them in, may lube them with a dry lube like ro59 or ptfe powder.
| hhkb bt
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lubed with tribosys 3203 | like topre a lot, prefer it lubed but did make less tactile but that might have been a skill issue. probably will get more tactile over time as the domes age.
| m0115
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bad orange alps lol | definitely needs a restoration. planning on wax boiling them and maybe a replacement pcb because the board has only 2 key rollover apparently.
| praxis
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gateron yellows - lubed with 205g0 - 62g tx mediums - pc plate | probably my favourite keyboard already, feels super nice and sounds pretty good, it's got a great layout as well. probably gonna build this with mx browns, I feel like it would suit the board more.
| camo filco
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stock with silent reds | Pretty cool looking board, the silent reds are actually good, they are smooth and I don't mind the mushiness (it's not even that mushy as well). the layout is pretty weird, but is useable. will probably mod this in the future. maybe a pcb and plate swap, change the keycaps to something dolch like, and also spring swap the springs in the silent reds.


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Re: Is someone here, who quit the hobby and is only lurking now?
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 07 May 2024, 08:18:02 »
The KB hobby is still very much in its infancy.   Eventually, high end models will emerge (just look at the 6 and 7 figure watches, 5 figure pens, for example), coffee table books will produced, Christy auctions...  I'm sure when Norbauer launches his 3-figure stabilizers. most will roll their eyes, but the whales will salivate.   Within 5 years their will be a 5-figure keyboard in market, if one does not already exist.  Based on other obscure hobbies I follow there is still a lot of upside in this hobby and mint condition vintage boards will become crazy expensive.

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Re: Is someone here, who quit the hobby and is only lurking now?
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 07 May 2024, 09:02:13 »
The KB hobby is still very much in its infancy.   Eventually, high end models will emerge (just look at the 6 and 7 figure watches, 5 figure pens, for example), coffee table books will produced, Christy auctions...  I'm sure when Norbauer launches his 3-figure stabilizers. most will roll their eyes, but the whales will salivate.   Within 5 years their will be a 5-figure keyboard in market, if one does not already exist.  Based on other obscure hobbies I follow there is still a lot of upside in this hobby and mint condition vintage boards will become crazy expensive.

Now that is an interesting tought. It's really just a matter of time, until a billionaire like some oil sheikh will demand a luxury KB.

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Re: Is someone here, who quit the hobby and is only lurking now?
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 07 May 2024, 10:22:28 »
The KB hobby is still very much in its infancy.   Eventually, high end models will emerge (just look at the 6 and 7 figure watches, 5 figure pens, for example), coffee table books will produced, Christy auctions...  I'm sure when Norbauer launches his 3-figure stabilizers. most will roll their eyes, but the whales will salivate.   Within 5 years their will be a 5-figure keyboard in market, if one does not already exist.  Based on other obscure hobbies I follow there is still a lot of upside in this hobby and mint condition vintage boards will become crazy expensive.

Now that is an interesting tought. It's really just a matter of time, until a billionaire like some oil sheikh will demand a luxury KB.

This already exists. The price of OG Korean Kustoms already are in the mid 4 figures for just the case/plate,etc. Some artisans go for mad money as well. There are also countless videos on Youtube where someone is making a $5000 custom keyboard for <insert person>.

And we are in the infancy stages of the hobby in the way of nothing is "vintage" yet. Look up the price of an air cooled Porsche 911 in 2004. They were affordable. That same 911 is now worth 10X or more because enough collectors got together and bought up the market and now they are unobtainable to a large swath of drivers. I expect OG and very special run keyboards will command a premium that will never make sense. Same with keycaps. Looking at vintage Signature Plastic sets, most sets are in the low hundreds if not lower in amounts of sets. I have had private DMs for my SA Camping set. Well above the purchase price I made in 2017.

I won't ever sell my set, but similar to vinyl pressed in 2004 there are only a few hundred in the wild and 80% of people don't know what they have and the other 20% don't want to give it up. How many people got into the hobby, build their board(s) and left the online hobby of Keyboards?

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Re: Is someone here, who quit the hobby and is only lurking now?
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 07 May 2024, 11:03:58 »
Eventually, high end models will emerge (just look at the 6 and 7 figure watches, 5 figure pens, for example), coffee table books will produced, Christy auctions...

There's an interesting element to this though. Watches and pens are made by small families of highly trained craftsmen. Even in the automotive industry, the _variance_ is pretty small. Keyboards can and are made by anyone. Double down that one open source contributor is supplying the files, another manufacturer is fulfilling, and a third (usually untrained) builder is assembling the whole kit.

Funnily enough, the number of "should I assemble this, or keep the parts untouched" threads I've seen is increasing. People realize that building their keyboards actually might reduce their value. Buys will pay top dollar for new-old-stock, especially the high end boards.

I don't know if this will change, or matters. Keyboards sit somewhere between tradition art and the luxury items you listed. Kit cars are maybe the closest approximation?
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Re: Is someone here, who quit the hobby and is only lurking now?
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 07 May 2024, 11:13:39 »
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I don't know if this will change, or matters. Keyboards sit somewhere between tradition art and the luxury items you listed. Kit cars are maybe the closest approximation?

I think the closest parallel would be New Supercars/Hypercars. Even cars like the Porsche 911. It isn't bought by people who want to drive the cars. They are being bought by people who park them in a display garage, trailer them to car shows/events, and then trailer them home. People are specing their cars in such a way that when they sell it, it will be desirable for the next buyer, rather than their dream spec car.

There are near nobody in existence who can drive these cars like the Bugatti, Koenigsegg, McLaren, etc to their limits. These cars are just as much art as they are motor vehicles. So people buying these cars are more interested in the engineering, unobtanium materials to make the parts of the car, etc they actually using this as a tool that can do amazing things.
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Re: Is someone here, who quit the hobby and is only lurking now?
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 07 May 2024, 15:01:49 »
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I don't know if this will change, or matters. Keyboards sit somewhere between tradition art and the luxury items you listed. Kit cars are maybe the closest approximation?

I think the closest parallel would be New Supercars/Hypercars. Even cars like the Porsche 911. It isn't bought by people who want to drive the cars. They are being bought by people who park them in a display garage, trailer them to car shows/events, and then trailer them home. People are specing their cars in such a way that when they sell it, it will be desirable for the next buyer, rather than their dream spec car.

I don't disagree on the "specing for resale comment" but I think comparing keyboards to hypercars is off the mark. Hypercars aren't made by a hobbyist with some CAD experience in their free time. Ferrari doesn't solicit buyer feedback in a discord. You don't need to buy 4 Norbauer boards before you're invited to buy "the premium model". This community is more grassroots than any car manufacture could dream of being. Even on the most premium end of keyboards, there's plenty of community-minded engagement.
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Re: Is someone here, who quit the hobby and is only lurking now?
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 07 May 2024, 16:50:26 »

my vacuum collection helps keep my house clean.


I have not bought a keyboard in at least a couple of years, and I have at least half a dozen "favorites" which I really do like but don't use. I am spoilt by the 122 key layout and whenever I use anything smaller I feel deprived.

Rotating one of them in for a week or 2 every few months just reinforces this, and I have several late-1980s boards (Alps (mostly blue or orange/salmon), Monterey, Space Invaders (black), and even Acer) that I would use much more often except for the fact that they frustrate me in just 1 way - that stupid 1U "Backspace" key! Considerable cursing has made it clear that I almost always hit the left side of the 2U ....

If and when I drop down to a small desk, I already have a couple of nice TKL boards that I have transplanted Alps into.

For most of a decade I have been using 122-key terminal Model Fs - modded to [very near] ANSI configuration, and it just feels "right" - everything else now seems like a plastic toy. My laptop is something that I use rarely and just accept it as one of the frustrations of not being in my usual den ....

Oh yes, about the vacuum cleaners - probably 15-20 years ago we needed a new one, and my ex-, who MUST relentlessly research EVERY purchase discovered that there were 2 competing forums (fora?), like GH and DT? But no, there was considerably more acrimony between them. What did we end up with? I don't remember, even though I did the majority of the vacuuming. I think it was yellow and black, and it worked quite well!
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Re: Is someone here, who quit the hobby and is only lurking now?
« Reply #15 on: Tue, 07 May 2024, 22:10:45 »
The KB hobby is still very much in its infancy.   Eventually, high end models will emerge (just look at the 6 and 7 figure watches, 5 figure pens, for example), coffee table books will produced, Christy auctions...  I'm sure when Norbauer launches his 3-figure stabilizers. most will roll their eyes, but the whales will salivate.   Within 5 years their will be a 5-figure keyboard in market, if one does not already exist.  Based on other obscure hobbies I follow there is still a lot of upside in this hobby and mint condition vintage boards will become crazy expensive.

Now that is an interesting tought. It's really just a matter of time, until a billionaire like some oil sheikh will demand a luxury KB.

This already exists. The price of OG Korean Kustoms already are in the mid 4 figures for just the case/plate,etc. Some artisans go for mad money as well. There are also countless videos on Youtube where someone is making a $5000 custom keyboard for <insert person>.

And we are in the infancy stages of the hobby in the way of nothing is "vintage" yet. Look up the price of an air cooled Porsche 911 in 2004. They were affordable. That same 911 is now worth 10X or more because enough collectors got together and bought up the market and now they are unobtainable to a large swath of drivers. I expect OG and very special run keyboards will command a premium that will never make sense. Same with keycaps. Looking at vintage Signature Plastic sets, most sets are in the low hundreds if not lower in amounts of sets. I have had private DMs for my SA Camping set. Well above the purchase price I made in 2017.

I won't ever sell my set, but similar to vinyl pressed in 2004 there are only a few hundred in the wild and 80% of people don't know what they have and the other 20% don't want to give it up. How many people got into the hobby, build their board(s) and left the online hobby of Keyboards?

honestly I feel that we will be on the cusp on how "premium" keyboards will get imo. I don't think we'll ever get to a point where 10k keyboards are even a rarity. Also a lot of the prices are going down on a lot of things, with very few things retaining their value from the pandemic where things were at their highest. I don't think the hobby is as sustainable as cars because a lot less people are into keyboards than they are cars. Unless we get another global pandemic soon I don't think it's gonna get to that point.
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cherry blacks - unlubed - filmed and springswapped with tx 55g mediums - alu Plate | pretty happy with this, the blacks were cherry picked so they weren't that scratchy to begin with, but currently breaking them in, may lube them with a dry lube like ro59 or ptfe powder.
| hhkb bt
More
lubed with tribosys 3203 | like topre a lot, prefer it lubed but did make less tactile but that might have been a skill issue. probably will get more tactile over time as the domes age.
| m0115
More
bad orange alps lol | definitely needs a restoration. planning on wax boiling them and maybe a replacement pcb because the board has only 2 key rollover apparently.
| praxis
More
gateron yellows - lubed with 205g0 - 62g tx mediums - pc plate | probably my favourite keyboard already, feels super nice and sounds pretty good, it's got a great layout as well. probably gonna build this with mx browns, I feel like it would suit the board more.
| camo filco
More
stock with silent reds | Pretty cool looking board, the silent reds are actually good, they are smooth and I don't mind the mushiness (it's not even that mushy as well). the layout is pretty weird, but is useable. will probably mod this in the future. maybe a pcb and plate swap, change the keycaps to something dolch like, and also spring swap the springs in the silent reds.


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Re: Is someone here, who quit the hobby and is only lurking now?
« Reply #16 on: Wed, 08 May 2024, 13:55:27 »
I don't think the hobby is as sustainable as cars because a lot less people are into keyboards than they are cars.

Globally, a lot more people use keyboards than cars.  All hobbies ebb and flow in value, but as long as people use keyboards, they will remain relevant and collectable.  Coins are still collectable, meanwhile collecting stamps is waning, but there are are still some that collectors pay 10's of thousands (check that) MILLIONS OF DOLLARS for specific stamps or sets of stamps.  There are 6-figure collectable knives, for crying out loud.  My most expensive knife costs more than my Smith + Rune collector's edition copper keyboard and numpad combo I'm waiting on, and the knife is just (a cool) CNC'd piece of metal with some anodization.
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Re: Is someone here, who quit the hobby and is only lurking now?
« Reply #17 on: Wed, 08 May 2024, 14:14:10 »


Oh yes, about the vacuum cleaners - probably 15-20 years ago we needed a new one... I don't remember, even though I did the majority of the vacuuming. I think it was yellow and black, and it worked quite well!

Nice.  Sounds like a Miele U1 Jazz.  I still have one dedicated on my 3rd floor.


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« Reply #18 on: Wed, 08 May 2024, 14:32:00 »
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honestly I feel that we will be on the cusp on how "premium" keyboards will get imo. I don't think we'll ever get to a point where 10k keyboards are even a rarity. Also a lot of the prices are going down on a lot of things, with very few things retaining their value from the pandemic where things were at their highest. I don't think the hobby is as sustainable as cars because a lot less people are into keyboards than they are cars. Unless we get another global pandemic soon I don't think it's gonna get to that point.

I am not so sure. The cheapest driver/enthusiast oriented cars still run around $5k + all the upkeep, etc. The Cheapest keyboards are $40 or less, complete. Cars just have utilitarian value and mechanical keyboards offer "feelz" as we use our computers. We aren't into the realm of crazy materials or branding. If Ferrari released a carbon fiber/aluminum, painted keyboard it would easily cost over 10k. Have Hermes leather wrap a wrest rest, 10k. Engrave the Louis V logo in the case, make 200 and give 50 to celebrities to post on Insta and charge 20k, some people will buy it. Even brands putting a screenprinted logo on a white shirt can command hundreds/thousands (Supreme).

Every car person I've ever met drools over cars like the F40, McLaren F1, etc. They will likely never see the car IRL let alone drive it or own it. But they exists for certain circles who can afford them. I haven't seen any real luxury or boutique brands selling you a vision/lifestyle/etc through keyboards yet. Keyboards are very grass roots and very second hand friendly. Because of this the options for nice, but affordable keyboards are wide. This is largely a great thing.

I am not sure what a 10k keyboard would look like, but add enough fancy materials, finishes, and brand collabs and you are likely not far off.

Always looking for Alps SKCM/SKCL switches. Feel free to DM.
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Re: Is someone here, who quit the hobby and is only lurking now?
« Reply #19 on: Wed, 08 May 2024, 15:03:46 »
I don't think the hobby is as sustainable as cars because a lot less people are into keyboards than they are cars.

Globally, a lot more people use keyboards than cars.

"use" != "are hobbyists"
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« Reply #20 on: Wed, 08 May 2024, 19:54:10 »
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honestly I feel that we will be on the cusp on how "premium" keyboards will get imo. I don't think we'll ever get to a point where 10k keyboards are even a rarity. Also a lot of the prices are going down on a lot of things, with very few things retaining their value from the pandemic where things were at their highest. I don't think the hobby is as sustainable as cars because a lot less people are into keyboards than they are cars. Unless we get another global pandemic soon I don't think it's gonna get to that point.

I am not so sure. The cheapest driver/enthusiast oriented cars still run around $5k + all the upkeep, etc. The Cheapest keyboards are $40 or less, complete. Cars just have utilitarian value and mechanical keyboards offer "feelz" as we use our computers. We aren't into the realm of crazy materials or branding. If Ferrari released a carbon fiber/aluminum, painted keyboard it would easily cost over 10k. Have Hermes leather wrap a wrest rest, 10k. Engrave the Louis V logo in the case, make 200 and give 50 to celebrities to post on Insta and charge 20k, some people will buy it. Even brands putting a screenprinted logo on a white shirt can command hundreds/thousands (Supreme).

Every car person I've ever met drools over cars like the F40, McLaren F1, etc. They will likely never see the car IRL let alone drive it or own it. But they exists for certain circles who can afford them. I haven't seen any real luxury or boutique brands selling you a vision/lifestyle/etc through keyboards yet. Keyboards are very grass roots and very second hand friendly. Because of this the options for nice, but affordable keyboards are wide. This is largely a great thing.

I am not sure what a 10k keyboard would look like, but add enough fancy materials, finishes, and brand collabs and you are likely not far off.

Hmmm, wasn't really considering that mainstream brands would get into the luxury keyboard game. The only mainstream clothing brand that has sold a keyboard was tommy hilfiger, which sold some crappy oem for 150 dollars. But that is an interesting perspective. Maybe one luxury company will find out how much people are paying for customs and see dollar signs, and that's maybe when the retail price will be in 5 digits. But idk if they would ever care to put that much r&d into a product like that. I guess we will have to see.

"use" != "are hobbyists"

Yeah what I meant there was in a hobbyist sense, but It wasn't worded that explicitly so I can understand why someone would think otherwise.

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cherry blacks - unlubed - filmed and springswapped with tx 55g mediums - alu Plate | pretty happy with this, the blacks were cherry picked so they weren't that scratchy to begin with, but currently breaking them in, may lube them with a dry lube like ro59 or ptfe powder.
| hhkb bt
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lubed with tribosys 3203 | like topre a lot, prefer it lubed but did make less tactile but that might have been a skill issue. probably will get more tactile over time as the domes age.
| m0115
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bad orange alps lol | definitely needs a restoration. planning on wax boiling them and maybe a replacement pcb because the board has only 2 key rollover apparently.
| praxis
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gateron yellows - lubed with 205g0 - 62g tx mediums - pc plate | probably my favourite keyboard already, feels super nice and sounds pretty good, it's got a great layout as well. probably gonna build this with mx browns, I feel like it would suit the board more.
| camo filco
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stock with silent reds | Pretty cool looking board, the silent reds are actually good, they are smooth and I don't mind the mushiness (it's not even that mushy as well). the layout is pretty weird, but is useable. will probably mod this in the future. maybe a pcb and plate swap, change the keycaps to something dolch like, and also spring swap the springs in the silent reds.


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Offline Mandan

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Re: Is someone here, who quit the hobby and is only lurking now?
« Reply #21 on: Wed, 08 May 2024, 21:35:28 »
I've been collecting IBM keyboards since 1987.

I'm sure I could give it up any time, if I wanted to.

Offline Findecanor

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Re: Is someone here, who quit the hobby and is only lurking now?
« Reply #22 on: Thu, 09 May 2024, 02:32:54 »
I'm somewhat annoyed by some people's narrow definitions of "the hobby".

I'm on this board because I type a lot every day and want good tools and I like to create and modify things. That is what Geekhack was about when I registered a long time ago. But apparently there are people who are here only because they have been bit by a collecting bug. I avoid the shiny colourful stuff: it is not for me.

What I do like is that the widening of keyboards as a hobby has nurtured keyboard evolution, so that there not exist even affordable ready-to-buy keyboards with interesting useful features and technical solutions. Not many years ago, you couldn't buy a gasket-mounted keyboard with hot-swapping sockets, without having to solder it yourself, but now you can.
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Offline Rhienfo

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Re: Is someone here, who quit the hobby and is only lurking now?
« Reply #23 on: Thu, 09 May 2024, 02:50:58 »
I'm somewhat annoyed by some people's narrow definitions of "the hobby".

I'm on this board because I type a lot every day and want good tools and I like to create and modify things. That is what Geekhack was about when I registered a long time ago. But apparently there are people who are here only because they have been bit by a collecting bug. I avoid the shiny colourful stuff: it is not for me.

What I do like is that the widening of keyboards as a hobby has nurtured keyboard evolution, so that there not exist even affordable ready-to-buy keyboards with interesting useful features and technical solutions. Not many years ago, you couldn't buy a gasket-mounted keyboard with hot-swapping sockets, without having to solder it yourself, but now you can.

I mean I think the collection aspect will always be an integral part of being in the hobby, but I agree that it is narrow to think of the hobby like that. It's bound to happen especially with custom keyboards being such a core part now (though a better name might be customisable keyboards...)

I don't get annoyed but more confused when people just don't put that much effort into assembling the boards. I always tell people to actually take the time to mod switches properly (breaking them in, spring swapping them, lubing them), lube stabs properly and to solder, not only cause of the benefits but because it feels a lot more rewarding and engaging with the diy aspects of keyboards to solder rather than put them in and it's done (Not that hotswap is bad btw, it's amazing for experimentation and you probably should have one hotswap keyboard just for experimenting with new stuff). Plus you get to learn a pretty useful skill.

I get why some people don't, some people just want a keyboard but if you have several mx keyboards without putting that effort I think it's pretty antithetical to some of the core aspects of the "hobby" which are creating the best keyboard for you, while experimenting and customizing everything along the way. I don't even blame people for falling into that mindset of aesthetic and sound over function and feel, it's far more appealing to a person getting into everything and they are the only aspects that can transfer into an audio and visual medium like youtube or tiktok, which is how I feel most people are finding out about the hobby today.

My first reply in this thread is pretty representative of how I feel about what you said I feel, that the hobby is pretty fleeting if you exclusively engage with the materialistic aspects and the things that will engage you in the long term are the more diy aspects.
keyboard collection - fjell
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cherry blacks - unlubed - filmed and springswapped with tx 55g mediums - alu Plate | pretty happy with this, the blacks were cherry picked so they weren't that scratchy to begin with, but currently breaking them in, may lube them with a dry lube like ro59 or ptfe powder.
| hhkb bt
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lubed with tribosys 3203 | like topre a lot, prefer it lubed but did make less tactile but that might have been a skill issue. probably will get more tactile over time as the domes age.
| m0115
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bad orange alps lol | definitely needs a restoration. planning on wax boiling them and maybe a replacement pcb because the board has only 2 key rollover apparently.
| praxis
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gateron yellows - lubed with 205g0 - 62g tx mediums - pc plate | probably my favourite keyboard already, feels super nice and sounds pretty good, it's got a great layout as well. probably gonna build this with mx browns, I feel like it would suit the board more.
| camo filco
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stock with silent reds | Pretty cool looking board, the silent reds are actually good, they are smooth and I don't mind the mushiness (it's not even that mushy as well). the layout is pretty weird, but is useable. will probably mod this in the future. maybe a pcb and plate swap, change the keycaps to something dolch like, and also spring swap the springs in the silent reds.


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Offline phinix

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Re: Is someone here, who quit the hobby and is only lurking now?
« Reply #24 on: Thu, 09 May 2024, 07:07:32 »
I did not quit, but last year decided to reduce my collection, sold most of my keyboards and keycaps sets, left just 4 boards and maybe 7-8 sets of keycaps.
I simply felt overwelmed and kinda exhausted of constant chasing better keyboard.
I realised that biggest issue I've been having are stabilisers in all custom kits I had. After over 10 years of modding and building keyboards I ended up being unable to properly lube those ****ers... I dont know what I've been doing wrong but after some time every stab started to scratch again and I simply was too tired to do something with it. Such a simple thing put me off the entire hobby...

Anyway, I kept my favourite boards - Realforce r1 87u55 and CM Quickfire Rapid with MX Blacks. Those are for me personally immportal boards that will stay with me to the rest of my life. Other two are custom kits.
Stayed in our forum, of course mostly for chatting with tp :D and keeping in touch with our community - 90% of the time staying in Off Topic, but always read all other bits and keeping myself up to date with everything keyboards related :)
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Offline TomahawkLabs

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Re: Is someone here, who quit the hobby and is only lurking now?
« Reply #25 on: Thu, 09 May 2024, 10:55:27 »
I've been collecting IBM keyboards since 1987.

I'm sure I could give it up any time, if I wanted to.

I'd love to see your collection of keyboards collected in real time vs finding a vintage model. Kind of like large car collections that were build from new models vs second hand. Super cool.
Always looking for Alps SKCM/SKCL switches. Feel free to DM.
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Offline Rhienfo

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Re: Is someone here, who quit the hobby and is only lurking now?
« Reply #26 on: Thu, 09 May 2024, 11:16:38 »
I did not quit, but last year decided to reduce my collection, sold most of my keyboards and keycaps sets, left just 4 boards and maybe 7-8 sets of keycaps.
I simply felt overwelmed and kinda exhausted of constant chasing better keyboard.
I realised that biggest issue I've been having are stabilisers in all custom kits I had. After over 10 years of modding and building keyboards I ended up being unable to properly lube those ****ers... I dont know what I've been doing wrong but after some time every stab started to scratch again and I simply was too tired to do something with it. Such a simple thing put me off the entire hobby...

Anyway, I kept my favourite boards - Realforce r1 87u55 and CM Quickfire Rapid with MX Blacks. Those are for me personally immportal boards that will stay with me to the rest of my life. Other two are custom kits.
Stayed in our forum, of course mostly for chatting with tp :D and keeping in touch with our community - 90% of the time stying in Off Topic, but always read all other bits and keeping myself up to date with everything keyboards related :)

I understand why people feel overwhelmed in the hobby nowadays, so many different switches and boards that's hard to keep up, even as there are less options since like 2021/2022 cause the hobby is less popular than it is now. I've just given up trying to keep up and just stick to what I know when it comes to switches and keycap brands, but keyboards are far more manageable so I can keep up with that.

For stabs idk I just put a light coat kyrtox 205g0 on the stab housing and xht-bdz lube on the wire and that usually works fine, only issues I have that weren't just faulty stabs was spacebar ticking.

keyboard collection - fjell
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cherry blacks - unlubed - filmed and springswapped with tx 55g mediums - alu Plate | pretty happy with this, the blacks were cherry picked so they weren't that scratchy to begin with, but currently breaking them in, may lube them with a dry lube like ro59 or ptfe powder.
| hhkb bt
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lubed with tribosys 3203 | like topre a lot, prefer it lubed but did make less tactile but that might have been a skill issue. probably will get more tactile over time as the domes age.
| m0115
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bad orange alps lol | definitely needs a restoration. planning on wax boiling them and maybe a replacement pcb because the board has only 2 key rollover apparently.
| praxis
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gateron yellows - lubed with 205g0 - 62g tx mediums - pc plate | probably my favourite keyboard already, feels super nice and sounds pretty good, it's got a great layout as well. probably gonna build this with mx browns, I feel like it would suit the board more.
| camo filco
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stock with silent reds | Pretty cool looking board, the silent reds are actually good, they are smooth and I don't mind the mushiness (it's not even that mushy as well). the layout is pretty weird, but is useable. will probably mod this in the future. maybe a pcb and plate swap, change the keycaps to something dolch like, and also spring swap the springs in the silent reds.


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Offline erretter

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Re: Is someone here, who quit the hobby and is only lurking now?
« Reply #27 on: Thu, 09 May 2024, 13:01:09 »
I would have never tought, this topic would evolve to such a lively debate. But I like that.

For me the hobby means "discovering something new with every new board".
That means new switches, new stabs, new plate, new mounting system (ok last 2 are rather limited, but you get the point) etc.
I'm at something like 20 boards and still feel I haven't even scratched the surface.

Someone here mentioned "I know what I like and so every new board will hat that very same switches and stabs". Of course you could to that, there is nothing wrong with that! It's just now my way to go and ultimatly this is what keeps me captive in this hobby. It's so hard to quit when there comes something new and interesting on the market literally on a daily basis.

Offline Rhienfo

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Re: Is someone here, who quit the hobby and is only lurking now?
« Reply #28 on: Thu, 09 May 2024, 23:45:23 »
I would have never tought, this topic would evolve to such a lively debate. But I like that.

For me the hobby means "discovering something new with every new board".
That means new switches, new stabs, new plate, new mounting system (ok last 2 are rather limited, but you get the point) etc.
I'm at something like 20 boards and still feel I haven't even scratched the surface.

Someone here mentioned "I know what I like and so every new board will hat that very same switches and stabs". Of course you could to that, there is nothing wrong with that! It's just now my way to go and ultimatly this is what keeps me captive in this hobby. It's so hard to quit when there comes something new and interesting on the market literally on a daily basis.

I do think experimenting and trying new stuff is important, but to me stuff like buying new switches and new stabs aren't very appealing to me. Like there has been very few new switches that I have found were interesting, the haimu silents were probably the most recent ones, because of how the switch is redesigned to prevent a mushy bottom out that regular silents have.  I have experimented a lot with different plates, lubes and mounting style so I do know what  works and what doesn't for me, which is why I don't deviate that much, but I'm still into trying out new ways of doing things, and stuff like different spring weights as well, I still have a long way to go in this hobby.
keyboard collection - fjell
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cherry blacks - unlubed - filmed and springswapped with tx 55g mediums - alu Plate | pretty happy with this, the blacks were cherry picked so they weren't that scratchy to begin with, but currently breaking them in, may lube them with a dry lube like ro59 or ptfe powder.
| hhkb bt
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lubed with tribosys 3203 | like topre a lot, prefer it lubed but did make less tactile but that might have been a skill issue. probably will get more tactile over time as the domes age.
| m0115
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bad orange alps lol | definitely needs a restoration. planning on wax boiling them and maybe a replacement pcb because the board has only 2 key rollover apparently.
| praxis
More
gateron yellows - lubed with 205g0 - 62g tx mediums - pc plate | probably my favourite keyboard already, feels super nice and sounds pretty good, it's got a great layout as well. probably gonna build this with mx browns, I feel like it would suit the board more.
| camo filco
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stock with silent reds | Pretty cool looking board, the silent reds are actually good, they are smooth and I don't mind the mushiness (it's not even that mushy as well). the layout is pretty weird, but is useable. will probably mod this in the future. maybe a pcb and plate swap, change the keycaps to something dolch like, and also spring swap the springs in the silent reds.


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Offline _rubik

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Re: Is someone here, who quit the hobby and is only lurking now?
« Reply #29 on: Mon, 13 May 2024, 11:52:26 »
I'm somewhat annoyed by some people's narrow definitions of "the hobby".

I'm on this board because I type a lot every day and want good tools and I like to create and modify things. That is what Geekhack was about when I registered a long time ago. But apparently there are people who are here only because they have been bit by a collecting bug. I avoid the shiny colourful stuff: it is not for me.

I almost want to differentiate between "culture" and "hobby". I'll get flayed for saying this, but that's almost the distinction between Reddit and Geekhack respectively. There are shiny keyboards and there are custom, utility keyboards -- they rarely merge. I think that's why there is so much (helpful, constructive) disagreement in this thread in finding non-tech analogues to mechanical keyboards. Keyboards mean something different to everyone. Hell, they mean something different to me on an intra-daily a basis. I might choose different keyboards when I'm writing code vs when I'm browsing the web.

But I agree. I prefer keyboards on the shiny end of "creative utility". That's a smaller target on this forum so I'm often flipping back and forth between "culture" and "hobby"
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Offline erretter

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Re: Is someone here, who quit the hobby and is only lurking now?
« Reply #30 on: Tue, 14 May 2024, 09:14:49 »
So you put GH on the hobby side and Reddit on culture? Sorry if I got your post wrong.

My experience with Reddit is that there is an awful gatekeeping. Don't you dare to post something that is not a perfectly done shelf piece, made only for looks.
Then there is all the fake audio takes that are highly edited.

There is neither a welcome culture nor like any kind of acceptance of beginners. "You are new? Better get out there and learn the ropes all by yourself, pal. Come back, when you have something high end to show off!"
Honestly, I think r/mk is only a small step away from posting nothing more then AI generated renders and sound profiles. An utopia of fakes and mock ups.
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Offline _rubik

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Re: Is someone here, who quit the hobby and is only lurking now?
« Reply #31 on: Tue, 14 May 2024, 14:59:27 »
So you put GH on the hobby side and Reddit on culture? Sorry if I got your post wrong.

My experience with Reddit is that there is an awful gatekeeping. Don't you dare to post something that is not a perfectly done shelf piece, made only for looks.

Yes, that's my understanding too. I'm not sure if it's the different communities or the style of communication, but I find fora like geekhack for more amenable to longer conversations. To me, r/mk feels like window shopping or showing off perfectly polished boards. There's a time and a place for that, don't get me wrong, but it's not where I instinctively reach for keyboard content.
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Offline Pyre

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Re: Is someone here, who quit the hobby and is only lurking now?
« Reply #32 on: Sun, 16 June 2024, 18:13:55 »
So you put GH on the hobby side and Reddit on culture? Sorry if I got your post wrong.

My experience with Reddit is that there is an awful gatekeeping. Don't you dare to post something that is not a perfectly done shelf piece, made only for looks.

Yes, that's my understanding too. I'm not sure if it's the different communities or the style of communication, but I find fora like geekhack for more amenable to longer conversations. To me, r/mk feels like window shopping or showing off perfectly polished boards. There's a time and a place for that, don't get me wrong, but it's not where I instinctively reach for keyboard content.

I've found reddit is more for talking at people - so you show them what you have, and tell them how nice it is. People then give you internet points, or the usual "very nice, whats the setup?" and thats as far as a conversation goes. It's a similar story with headphones - I'd rather spend time now in Audio Science Review since r/headphones is just people posting topics like 'this is my endgame.. for now' and whatever expensive crap they bought.

Still working out how GH is given I'm new :)


For my contribution to the topic - I think I'm at a stage where I have enough keyboards - more than I can reasonably use, and since I don't have enough room to store any more, I'm more wanting to learn about tinkering with the internals - playing around with switches, foam, mods etc to get each keyboard 'perfect' - not sure if that counts as lurking?


Offline Rhienfo

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Re: Is someone here, who quit the hobby and is only lurking now?
« Reply #33 on: Mon, 17 June 2024, 01:04:35 »
I've found reddit is more for talking at people - so you show them what you have, and tell them how nice it is. People then give you internet points, or the usual "very nice, whats the setup?" and thats as far as a conversation goes. It's a similar story with headphones - I'd rather spend time now in Audio Science Review since r/headphones is just people posting topics like 'this is my endgame.. for now' and whatever expensive crap they bought.

Still working out how GH is given I'm new :)


For my contribution to the topic - I think I'm at a stage where I have enough keyboards - more than I can reasonably use, and since I don't have enough room to store any more, I'm more wanting to learn about tinkering with the internals - playing around with switches, foam, mods etc to get each keyboard 'perfect' - not sure if that counts as lurking?

I'd say if you are tinkering around with stuff than yeah I would say your still apart of the hobby and not just lurking, I thought I was done a while back and now I'm wanting a lot more when it comes to experimentation and other boards and such. Still got a while to go before I'm fulfilled now.
keyboard collection - fjell
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cherry blacks - unlubed - filmed and springswapped with tx 55g mediums - alu Plate | pretty happy with this, the blacks were cherry picked so they weren't that scratchy to begin with, but currently breaking them in, may lube them with a dry lube like ro59 or ptfe powder.
| hhkb bt
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lubed with tribosys 3203 | like topre a lot, prefer it lubed but did make less tactile but that might have been a skill issue. probably will get more tactile over time as the domes age.
| m0115
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bad orange alps lol | definitely needs a restoration. planning on wax boiling them and maybe a replacement pcb because the board has only 2 key rollover apparently.
| praxis
More
gateron yellows - lubed with 205g0 - 62g tx mediums - pc plate | probably my favourite keyboard already, feels super nice and sounds pretty good, it's got a great layout as well. probably gonna build this with mx browns, I feel like it would suit the board more.
| camo filco
More
stock with silent reds | Pretty cool looking board, the silent reds are actually good, they are smooth and I don't mind the mushiness (it's not even that mushy as well). the layout is pretty weird, but is useable. will probably mod this in the future. maybe a pcb and plate swap, change the keycaps to something dolch like, and also spring swap the springs in the silent reds.


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Offline Tseg

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Re: Is someone here, who quit the hobby and is only lurking now?
« Reply #34 on: Mon, 17 June 2024, 08:48:04 »
On one hand I "feel" like I am done with the keyboard hobby as I am not seeking to acquire anything and there is no next thing attracting me.  But I still rotate what board I use every day or two, I still time and practice my typing skills, and I'll be waiting through the end of the year for the 2nd of two outstanding group buys to show up.  But something changed with me a month or two ago when I got another set of switches and some more Sprit springs to go into those switches and I still have yet to dismantle and lube them... but they are for the year-end group buy arrival, so I have time.

Meanwhile I rotated back to my Barista hobby in the past couple of months and just dropped a pretty penny on a new espresso machine and grinder... but I really think I'm done there (end game?).  So right now I'm in a rare spot of being a bit in between hobbies and not really anything on the horizon... although there are some long-standing home improvement projects I keep reflecting on.

Offline zslane

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Re: Is someone here, who quit the hobby and is only lurking now?
« Reply #35 on: Mon, 17 June 2024, 10:17:28 »
I got into custom keyboards back in the Fall of 2015, mostly because I was obsessed with keycaps (tall sphericals, to be more precise). Since then I have acquired all they keyboards, switches, and keycaps sets that I want and haven't really poured any money into this for some time now. I lurk mostly because I still like keyboards and I like seeing what's going on, but I'm not chasing a grail keyboard anymore (and I've never been into building my own from parts). Moreover, the fact that full size keyboards are mostly ignored by the hobby means very little comes out that is of any interest to me.

Offline filefish

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Re: Is someone here, who quit the hobby and is only lurking now?
« Reply #36 on: Mon, 17 June 2024, 12:09:26 »
I've been in the hobby for about 5 years, and sometime last year ran out of room to practically engage in the hobby anymore; there's only so many boards one can store without becoming a hoarder.

For a while, I focused on collecting caps that optimally fit and matched with my existing boards. And when I finished with that project, I moved on to design - learning to make PCBs, plates, renders, and most recently keycap designs. I figure if I don't have room to participate directly anymore, I can still make things for others to enjoy.