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Offline duq

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« Reply #100 on: Thu, 13 January 2011, 16:35:17 »
What a bummer that it isn't being distributed :(. This is quite a great idea... props for starting something really great! But, blaaaaah to someone not following the rules and ruining something so great...
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« Reply #101 on: Fri, 14 January 2011, 00:45:51 »
this sucks...

it would've taken a while but i was lookin fwd to receiving this
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« Reply #102 on: Fri, 14 January 2011, 11:15:17 »
STOP PRESS STOP PRESS

I finally contacted exhuma.twn -> it turned out he was on holiday and the mails that were sent to him never reached him due to a crashed mail server. ( The GH forum doesn't detect bounced mails apparently )

If all is well, it will be sent this coming friday or monday. Next on the list : senor_carmenez.....

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« Reply #103 on: Fri, 14 January 2011, 13:51:06 »
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STOP PRESS STOP PRESS

I finally contacted exhuma.twn -> it turned out he was on holiday and the mails that were sent to him never reached him due to a crashed mail server. ( The GH forum doesn't detect bounced mails apparently )

If all is well, it will be sent this coming friday or monday. Next on the list : senor_carmenez.....

Regards

Who can we blame now? :(

On serious note, good to here it's on it way soon...
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« Reply #104 on: Thu, 27 January 2011, 15:33:38 »
can i am on the list ?
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« Reply #105 on: Fri, 28 January 2011, 04:40:40 »
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Who can we blame now? :(

On serious note, good to here it's on it way soon...


me :D

I received it on monday or tuesday, forgot. I checked it out real quick, nice one SirClickAlot :D
I will post a pic and write my 2 cents probably tomorrow, contact SirClickAlot for the next address and send it on its way on saturday or monday.

Sorry if I kept it too long, work is a ***** right nah :(
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« Reply #106 on: Fri, 28 January 2011, 08:11:14 »
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can i am on the list ?

Please read the start of this thread :-)
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« Reply #107 on: Fri, 28 January 2011, 09:14:36 »
Am also seriously contemplating to send the STB to the US since there are less problems with posting it around than in Europe.
Europe has some serious postal delivery problems which I expect aren't there in the US.

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« Reply #108 on: Fri, 28 January 2011, 12:22:23 »
Today I cut the knot :
I will have the STB sent over to the US. The rest of the list from Europe will have to wait... Sorry about this guys, but this is still a prototype of open-sink and I trust the mail delivery in the US a whole lot more than the European ones going from country to country. As an example :  A package from sixty sent end of last year from Germany to me in The Netherlands is completely lost -> this doesn't instill trust in the european delivery quality....

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« Reply #109 on: Thu, 03 February 2011, 22:21:45 »
Sweet, looks like i will get a chance much sooner than i thought.  The USPS small flat rate box would be ideal for this thing.  Big enough to fit the STB with plenty of room for packing material to be sure it arrives there safe.  $5.00 ships anywhere domestically using priority mail, which from my experience normally takes 2 days of shipping time.  Now, the next trick is getting people to not procrastinate sending it out =X
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« Reply #110 on: Fri, 04 February 2011, 00:35:52 »
Should have a GPS signal in the board... just in case!
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« Reply #111 on: Fri, 04 February 2011, 01:31:33 »
Just a quick thumbs up on a great idea ;)
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« Reply #112 on: Fri, 04 February 2011, 12:21:22 »
Just got my hands on some Cherry MX Blacks.  Need some other switches to compare it to.  Do I just PM SirClickAlot with my address to get on the list?  Thanks.
« Last Edit: Fri, 04 February 2011, 13:30:15 by Bern »
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Offline Senor_Cartmenez

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« Reply #113 on: Tue, 08 February 2011, 10:49:09 »
sup pardy ppl :)

I hoarded the STB for the last couple o' weeks, apologies for that. It's on the way to the US now (great, why did I have to be the one to pay more? :D ).

I got a few minutes so I wanna post my pic and drop my 2 cents:



First off: This thing is golden. Yes you only get 1 key per switch and yes, that's hardly perfect for making a decision on what switch type is best for you. But it's damn near close and certainly closer than any other option out there, specially in europe!
So again: Thumbs up to SirClickAlot for this genius gadget.

I already own a board with MX Clears and Blues so nothing new for me there. To be totally honest, I asked to be included on this sinklist solely for the purpose of trying out the Browns and Reds :) had the blacks before and don't really care for the ALPS.

To sum up my experience:
I didn't care much for the ALPS after trying them out, either. Certainly not as bad as u hear some places and actually feel pretty similar to some of the MX switches (grey clicky ALPS I believe it was felt similar to the blues). So if I saw an ALPS board I was interested in, I wouldn't shy away from it after trying them on the STB. But I wouldn't go looking for them either.

Which leads us to the browns:
I honestly don't understand why those are so popular! I was always under the impression that they feel pretty much like the blues and are just not clicky. The STB helped me greatly in this regard as I now think the browns are entirely over-rated. From all the switches they felt the closest to rubber domes (aside from the ML of course) and the most "unspectacular". I certainly found a new appreciation for my Blues.

The next remarkable switch were the Reds, THE main reason I wanted the STB :)
If I ever find a cool board with reds I will buy it. I think reds really are the holy grail. I do like the blacks and their resistance but I do think it is nicer to have a smooth and light key stroke and linears are very interesting to me. Trying out the reds was really what made the STB an awesome thing for me.

On a sidenote, I also decided to buy a Deck after all, now that I found those EurKey drivers and since I had the STB I could easily compare MX Blacks and Clears (which are the options from Deck), which was nice as well.

Only thing I was missing was a Topre switch. Jam that sucker on the STB and u would have a thoroughly awesome Gadget that should be on display in any major electronics store :)

Thanks again SirClickAlot and have fun @ the next recipient
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« Reply #114 on: Tue, 08 February 2011, 10:59:11 »
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... the browns are entirely over-rated. From all the switches they felt the closest to rubber domes (aside from the ML of course) and the most "unspectacular"

Neither MX brown nor ML have anything similar to rubber domes.
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« Reply #115 on: Tue, 08 February 2011, 11:07:31 »
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Neither MX brown nor ML have anything similar to rubber domes.


out of all the switches I've tried, I've gotta say my realforce feels closest to a rubber dome, lol.
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« Reply #116 on: Tue, 08 February 2011, 12:40:57 »
Quote from: Senor_Cartmenez;291767
sup pardy ppl :)

I hoarded the STB for the last couple o' weeks, apologies for that. It's on the way to the US now (great, why did I have to be the one to pay more? :D ).


Excellent writeup Senor_cartmenez -> a good impression of the STB(!)

Regards.
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« Reply #117 on: Tue, 08 February 2011, 16:59:42 »
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out of all the switches I've tried, I've gotta say my realforce feels closest to a rubber dome, lol.

I was gonna say that about the HHKB, but I didn't want the cult police on my trails.
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« Reply #118 on: Wed, 09 February 2011, 04:53:26 »
Well I didn't have the topre switches to compare.

I also didn't (or didn't mean to) say that Browns or MLs have something in common with Rubber Domes. My point was that out of all the switches they felt the closest to a rubber dome.
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« Reply #119 on: Sun, 13 February 2011, 11:45:57 »
I'm curious how the other switches feel, all I have tried as far as mechanical boards go is a broken Model M and the Cherry Blues that I'm typing on now.
Also curious how a Topre switch feels, but it's basically a glorified rubber dome with a spring in it right? Might have to join both sinklists.
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« Reply #120 on: Sat, 19 February 2011, 06:45:34 »
FINALLY it arrived at the US.

Now this little testing device can move around a lot quicker. On average the posting of it inside Europe takes at least a week from person to person, sometimes even longer than that!

For anyone receiving it : DON"T remove the key caps. Kill Will pointed out that some  keys are getting loose. You can see what each key is by looking at the little enclosed laminated card.

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« Reply #121 on: Sat, 19 March 2011, 23:00:47 »
Any update on where this thing is?  Kill Will still have it?
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« Reply #122 on: Sun, 20 March 2011, 04:39:56 »
Oh man, I wish I'd seen this thread earlier :D Can I still sign up for it?
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« Reply #123 on: Sun, 20 March 2011, 14:01:26 »
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Any update on where this thing is?  Kill Will still have it?


Yes, Kill Will still has it.

Hope he will send it on soon....
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« Reply #124 on: Sun, 20 March 2011, 14:35:44 »
Thanks, I can blame you for an other keyboard...

Hope it haven't gotten lost...
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« Reply #125 on: Sun, 20 March 2011, 16:21:59 »
Would have been nice to try this, but I guess being in Europe kind of rules that out for the near future. Too bad they don't sell something like this, would save people a lot of money in the long run (maybe that's why they don't sell something like this!).
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« Reply #126 on: Sun, 20 March 2011, 16:28:09 »
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Would have been nice to try this, but I guess being in Europe kind of rules that out for the near future. Too bad they don't sell something like this, would save people a lot of money in the long run (maybe that's why they don't sell something like this!).


You should subscribe to the Switch try keyboard.
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=12405&page=2
It is in the EU currently, and the shipping is about 10€.
This way you can try a full size keyboard with all of the Cherry switches in them.
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« Reply #127 on: Tue, 22 March 2011, 07:06:42 »
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Oh man, I wish I'd seen this thread earlier :D Can I still sign up for it?

Yes, you can....

Regards.
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« Reply #128 on: Tue, 22 March 2011, 13:31:12 »
*sigh*

Somehow I get the feeling I need to create a new version of the STB since the sinklist chain is broken :-(

I might as well make 2 extra -> one for the US and one for Europe...
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« Reply #129 on: Tue, 22 March 2011, 13:40:19 »
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Kill Will?  Hmmmm.......


Was thinking the same thing.
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« Reply #130 on: Tue, 22 March 2011, 15:05:52 »
Sounds like he had a bad day.
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« Reply #131 on: Tue, 22 March 2011, 15:38:24 »
Yeah, I remember him.  I wonder what his deal was. I don't remember him being volatile like that.  Whatever it was screwed up his mastery of English.
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« Reply #132 on: Tue, 22 March 2011, 15:54:06 »
Yeah Ripster, why are YOU so defensive!?
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« Reply #133 on: Tue, 22 March 2011, 16:13:01 »
So did that sociopath actually make it onto the mailing list?

Best case scenario is he reports back with an extremely negative review on all the keyswitches.

Worst case he posts a video of himself destroying the switch try board.
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« Reply #134 on: Wed, 23 March 2011, 21:46:57 »
Sucks, sorry mr interface, all it takes is 1 bad apple to ruin it for everyone.

Really appreciate the time and effort you have put into these sinklists though.

Id actually prefer he post a video of himself destroying it vs it just vanishing.  At least a video would honor the memory of the first stb ;p
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« Reply #135 on: Fri, 25 March 2011, 12:03:45 »
Work on the second and third STB has started. I pulled 6 keys from each of the harvester keyboards. Coming week I want to find time to solder them to a piece of PCB.
So for those on the STB sinklist : Keep the faith! :-)

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« Reply #136 on: Thu, 07 April 2011, 03:35:50 »
STOP PRESS STOP PRESS.

The original STB popped up again! :-)

Celery notified me that he received it. Nadger is next on the list.

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« Reply #137 on: Mon, 11 April 2011, 15:58:44 »
I did finally get this last week. Doesn't seem to be any worse for the wear for all that drama. Some of the keycaps have been curiously reoriented though.

I was mainly interested in the Alps switches. I have a few boards, but they're in some need of cleaning/lubrication. The Alps switches are nice--can't say if they're exactly better or worse than the Cherries, but off-center presses are still frictiony. The Cherry clear was nice; I don't mind seeing it become the next Cherry red.

Should send it out later this week.
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« Reply #138 on: Mon, 11 April 2011, 16:52:14 »
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The Alps switches are nice--can't say if they're exactly better or worse than the Cherries, but off-center presses are still frictiony.


I have the same problem with the Cherries.
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« Reply #139 on: Mon, 11 April 2011, 16:53:15 »
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I have the same problem with the Cherries.

I only seem to have that problem with red switches.
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« Reply #140 on: Mon, 11 April 2011, 17:10:41 »
We definitely need a MO on RO-59.
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« Reply #141 on: Mon, 11 April 2011, 17:13:44 »
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I only seem to have that problem with red switches.


Do you feel it with your black Filco? The difference is extremely noticeable compared to my Realforce.
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« Reply #142 on: Mon, 11 April 2011, 22:02:33 »
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Do you feel it with your black Filco? The difference is extremely noticeable compared to my Realforce.


I don't remember ever feeling that with the black switches.  It was one thing that really stood out about using reds.
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« Reply #143 on: Fri, 22 April 2011, 20:12:56 »
I have received the STB.  I will take a photo with it and post my full thoughts on each of the key switches soon.

The two things that stand out to me the most after a quick try are:

1.  Grey Clicky Alps surprised me, they feel better than i thought they would
2. Clears feel much stiffer than I had imagined, it actually feels stiffer than the black on the STB.
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« Reply #144 on: Mon, 25 April 2011, 18:00:41 »
1 Cherry Clear: Stiffer than i had imagined.  Too stiff, the tactile feedback is a bit more pronounced than a brown.  I thought i would like this one the best.
2 Cherry Red: Feels almost exactly like my noppo brown but without the tactile bump.  I like it actually.
3 Grey Clicky Alps: Extremely tactile, i actually like this switch.  Its click is much lower pitched than the blues.  Not very stiff but feels stiffer than browns/reds.
4 Cherry Blue: Feels great, but the click i cant stand.  Wish i could have a non clicky blue with the same tactility/feeling.  Or at least make the pitch of the click lower.
5 Cherry Brown: I already have a board with these in it and i gotta say my Noppoo feels MUCH better than the brown on the STB.  The brown on the stb feels more like a red, i dont notice the tactile bump hardly at all.  My noppoo browns are much more tactile.
6 White Complicated Dampened: Feels good, a little sloppy but i thought this is how a cherry clear would feel.  Good tactility, quiet, medium force.
7 Cherry Black: Feels less stiff than the cherry clear oddly enough, has a smooth feeling, no tactile other than bottoming out but glides super smooth. Still a little too stiff for comfort for me though.
8 Cherry ML: Has a nice feel for a compact switch.  I think I like this better than scissor switch on my laptop.  Feels almost like the grey clicky alps but shorter travel time and no click.
9 Black complicated nonclicky: Feels good, like a slightly stiffer brown, but has a louder bottom out sound. Very similar to grey, with a little less resistance and a lower pitch sound.

Overall: I like the feeling of the blue mx, grey clicky and black complicated alps but they are tad too noisy. White dampened and mx brown are my favorites, then cherry reds.  The rest are okay but either too stiff or too loud for me.

And here is a photo with the stb with a local Utah landmark in the background, though you can barely see it, theres a Y on the mountain in the background.  Here all the mountains have letters on them as a tradition schools/cities started.  The Y is for BYU, a mormon university near here.
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I will try to make it to the post office before it closes tomorrow
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Offline Nadger

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« Reply #145 on: Tue, 26 April 2011, 18:03:11 »
sent to next in line
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« Reply #146 on: Sat, 30 April 2011, 17:20:19 »
tracking number shows it was delivered on april 29th manbeardo has it now
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Offline SirClickAlot

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« Reply #147 on: Tue, 03 May 2011, 06:21:29 »
Quote from: Nadger;339685
tracking number shows it was delivered on april 29th manbeardo has it now

Manbeardo confirmed receiving it. He will post soon...
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« Reply #148 on: Sat, 21 May 2011, 02:07:33 »
Impressions: I really like the potential reds have for gaming (blacks are definitely too stiff for my liking), but the blue remains my favorite for day-to-day typing. Also, the laptop key is so much nicer than standard membrane scissor switches! I wish I could get a laptop with those keys!

A number of the keycaps weren't oriented the way the were in the photo, so I took the liberty of rearranging them. In rearranging, the brown switch and a few others had very noticeable play between the switch and the board so I added some solder. Replaced the tape on the back after repairs. It's blue now.

Sent the board to the next recipient.

Me with the board:
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« Reply #149 on: Sat, 21 May 2011, 16:56:01 »
Lol, you look really happy! Must be the cherry reds.
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