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Offline MissileMike

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« Reply #50 on: Sun, 31 October 2010, 10:59:13 »
I have a few now, and there is something about them, not sure what it is, but I love them.  And the saddest part is I use filco browns as my daily keyboards, but I still want more minis!
BS: 5 Space Savers  ||  9 42H  ||  10 1391401 or similar  ||  1x 1390131  || AT&T 305b  ||  Dell Model M
Cherry: Leopold FC200RC/AB  ||  3 Ducky 1087  ||  PLU ML87 ||  Cherry G80-8113LUVEU-2  browns
Alps: Filco Zero Tenkeyless (fukka)  ||  ABS M1  ||  3x Dell AT101w  ||  Ancer KF-191  ||  6 Vivanco Compact
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Offline KillerBee

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« Reply #51 on: Sun, 31 October 2010, 12:24:59 »
I dont believe the hype... whats soo special about a smaller model M? Come on really it works in the same way as a normal model m and plus you get to keep the numpad section.

Why would you want to pay more for something that is not even complete!

In the same way that I can turn around and say that the m's from 1985 are the best!

this is just a rant dont take me seriously
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« Reply #52 on: Sun, 31 October 2010, 12:46:14 »
It seems you could save a whole lot of money buying a regular model M or endurapro and cutting off the numpad section.  But then it wouldn't be as sexy and isn't that the main reason we buy keyboards? :)
My keyboards: Filco Cherry Blue Tenkeyless(daily home), Compaq MX11800 (modded to blacks), Compaq "MX 84u",  Wellington\'s Dampened Endurapro, Pinkalicious Filco Blue Cherry, Chicony KB-5191, Chicony KB-5181, Desko MOS 5023 UP "elbowglue" spos (modded to blues), Siig Minitouch (monterey blue), SMK-88 (blue cherries), Ricercar SPOS
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KBC Poker: 11.6 x 3.9 - HHKB: 11.6 x 4.3 - Siig Minitouch (Geekhack Space Saver): 11.6 x 6 - Deck/Tg3 82: 12 x 6 - Noppoo Choc Mini 12.4 x 5.3 - Compaq "MX 84u": 13.1 x 7.5 - Filco Tenkeyless: 14 x 5.3 - Cherry "ricercar spos" G86-62410EUAGSA: 14 x 7.75 - Topre Realforce 86u: 14.4 x 6.65 - Desko "elbowglue spos" MOS 5023 UP: 14.5 x 8.4 - IBM Model M Spacesaver: 15.3 x 7 - G80-1800: 15.9 x 7.1 - Adesso MKB-125B: 16 x 7.3 - Compaq Mx11800, Cherry G80-11900: 16.25 x 7.5 - Filco Standard: 17.3 x 5.4 - Unicomp Endurapro: 17.9 x 7.1 - Adesso MKB-135B: 18.3 x 6.0 - Cherry G80-3000: 18.5 x 7.6 - IBM Model M, Unicomp Customizer: 19.3 x 8.27

Offline KillerBee

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« Reply #53 on: Sun, 31 October 2010, 12:51:28 »
Quote from: kishy;240781
stacking them on a shelf though...waiting for an opportunity to sell them for $500 each.


He is investing for the future

Quote from: elbowglue;240782
It seems you could save a whole lot of money buying a regular model M or endurapro and cutting off the numpad section.  But then it wouldn't be as sexy and isn't that the main reason we buy keyboards? :)


everything is sexy depending on how you look at them.

Ex. my wife is very pretty but only depends in what angle you are looking and what type of light is on.
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« Reply #54 on: Sun, 31 October 2010, 13:07:10 »
I like the Mini form factor better versus the full size. It takes up less space. I really like BS keys too. Unicomp makes a decent keyboard, but they don't have tenkeyless version, too bad, I would certainly buy one.
So if you like tenkeyless, and BS keys, than the IBM mini is the only choice out there.

I would think there is a very, very small group of people that would be that passionate about it, but they do exist. And it looks like they are willing to pay for it too.

I don't care too much for conspiracy theories. I suppose someone could be hoarding them to make a killing sometime in the future, but that doesn't seem very rational to me.
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« Reply #55 on: Sun, 31 October 2010, 13:29:19 »
Rip I'll trade you my wife for an Industrial Model M from 1985
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« Reply #56 on: Sun, 31 October 2010, 13:49:20 »
They didn't make an Industrial mini in 1985.  The only industrial Model M Space Saving keyboards had the oval label which didn't exist until later.  No silver label "mini" Model M was ever made.  (I'm talking a standard AT compatible Model M, not terminal keyboards)
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Offline MissileMike

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« Reply #57 on: Sun, 31 October 2010, 14:05:17 »
My wife is cute, so I won't trade her for your industrial mini, but I would happily offer my dog, a 12 year old "vintage" Jack Russell Terrier.  I suspect she will be easier to take care of than KillerBee's wife.
BS: 5 Space Savers  ||  9 42H  ||  10 1391401 or similar  ||  1x 1390131  || AT&T 305b  ||  Dell Model M
Cherry: Leopold FC200RC/AB  ||  3 Ducky 1087  ||  PLU ML87 ||  Cherry G80-8113LUVEU-2  browns
Alps: Filco Zero Tenkeyless (fukka)  ||  ABS M1  ||  3x Dell AT101w  ||  Ancer KF-191  ||  6 Vivanco Compact
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Offline KillerBee

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« Reply #58 on: Sun, 31 October 2010, 14:26:51 »
hahahaha!!

Mind you my wife is very understanding, she lets me have atleast 3 keyboards (home/office/office) (she did make me sell the other just because I was not using them) all the audio gear I have plus a hobby car!

I think ugly or not with a wife like this I think I'll hold on to her for now. Sorry rip no deal.
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Offline KillerBee

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« Reply #59 on: Sun, 31 October 2010, 14:28:58 »
Quote from: didjamatic;240799
They didn't make an Industrial mini in 1985


I know that, I was referring to a full size M.

Believe me if they did I'd probaly have it.
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Offline KillerBee

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« Reply #60 on: Sun, 31 October 2010, 14:31:47 »
MissileMike's wife

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Offline MissileMike

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« Reply #61 on: Sun, 31 October 2010, 14:35:46 »
Quote from: KillerBee;240823
MissileMike's wife

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I would like to add that I have 40 keyboards and she doesn't care.
BS: 5 Space Savers  ||  9 42H  ||  10 1391401 or similar  ||  1x 1390131  || AT&T 305b  ||  Dell Model M
Cherry: Leopold FC200RC/AB  ||  3 Ducky 1087  ||  PLU ML87 ||  Cherry G80-8113LUVEU-2  browns
Alps: Filco Zero Tenkeyless (fukka)  ||  ABS M1  ||  3x Dell AT101w  ||  Ancer KF-191  ||  6 Vivanco Compact
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« Reply #62 on: Sun, 31 October 2010, 14:38:47 »
Quote from: kishy;240770
You keep posting that, but it keeps not applying because it's still only one seller, one keyboard, and one person willing to pay for it.


It applies. Unicomp could build SSKs. As could anyone else; the patents are expired.

If demand were higher, they would be.

Demand is not so high. The Model M is a niche item and the SSK is a niche within a niche. The market is meeting that small demand with a small supply, reallocating existing SSKs to the people who want or need them most. It's an equilibrium.

I would like to imagine that a better equilibrium is possible. Dear Steve Jobs, please buy Unicomp, build the SSK, bundle them with new Mac desktops, and tell the world how great they are...

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Fun non-ergonomic things: bolt modded Model M Space Saving Keyboards with new springs, Kensington Expert Mouse v7, Unicomp Endurapro, Northgates

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« Reply #63 on: Mon, 01 November 2010, 10:11:08 »
Quote from: MissileMike;240807
... but I would happily offer my dog, a 12 year old "vintage" Jack Russell Terrier.

I can haz the dawg?
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« Reply #64 on: Mon, 01 November 2010, 17:29:18 »
Quote from: woody;241096
I can haz the dawg?
No, I can haz dat delicious dawg.

Is my eyesight becoming clearer or am I wrong in that Angel Kitty needs to shave armpit ?

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« Reply #65 on: Thu, 04 November 2010, 05:11:35 »
You're a monkey (no offense, I believe in equal rights for monkeys everywhere) and you're worrying about unshaved armpits? Metrosexual monkey?

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« Reply #66 on: Sun, 07 November 2010, 18:37:41 »
It is Sunday night after the off-week and old faithful has yet to erupt.  No mini from comptekw2k on ebay.
BS: 5 Space Savers  ||  9 42H  ||  10 1391401 or similar  ||  1x 1390131  || AT&T 305b  ||  Dell Model M
Cherry: Leopold FC200RC/AB  ||  3 Ducky 1087  ||  PLU ML87 ||  Cherry G80-8113LUVEU-2  browns
Alps: Filco Zero Tenkeyless (fukka)  ||  ABS M1  ||  3x Dell AT101w  ||  Ancer KF-191  ||  6 Vivanco Compact
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« Reply #67 on: Mon, 08 November 2010, 06:07:53 »
Maybe there are none left... : (

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« Reply #68 on: Mon, 08 November 2010, 15:07:56 »
Awesome...
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« Reply #70 on: Sun, 14 November 2010, 15:22:45 »
Quote from: ripster;246718
I think it will sell for market price.


That is incredibly insightful, I would have to agree :p
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« Reply #71 on: Sun, 14 November 2010, 17:53:05 »
I love conspiracy theories!

Who's behind the pernicious inflation of mini-M prices?
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« Reply #72 on: Mon, 15 November 2010, 01:21:58 »
Quote from: DesktopJinx;246813
I love conspiracy theories!

Who's behind the pernicious inflation of mini-M prices?


The guy that has been building steampunk model Ms?  ;-)
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« Reply #73 on: Sun, 21 November 2010, 08:51:58 »
Kishy: Does it hurt being wrong all the time? I bought the 4 previous NIB minis. I'm not a shill bidder. I've been working with computers since before they had keyboards and monitors. I started my own business 28 years ago; it's successful, & I do have that kind of disposable income. I used to be a participating member here, but dropped it when the forums turned into BS sessions. Only 1 person here thought to email and ask me what I was doing with the minis. The reason I started buying them on eBay is because the local supplier I had for them started selling them to Japan for about $1000 each. & no, I am not doing the same.

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« Reply #74 on: Sun, 21 November 2010, 09:51:46 »
A new account saying NIB's being re-sold for $1000.  Sounds like a shill bidding tactic to me. Well played.
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« Reply #75 on: Sun, 21 November 2010, 10:47:22 »
If you have bought the previous 4 Minis, congratulations that's awesome.  But that is also a good indicator of why the price has gone up.  That's the time frame that they have crossed the $200 mark by a significant margin.  Whenever 1 person decides to outbid everyone else on an item that has been relisted multiple times, it tends to drive the price up.  There's nothing illegal, immoral, wrong or problematic about it - that's how we determine market value.  Unless you know the seller personally of course, then that would be shill bidding.  If there were more than 1 of you that were dead set on winning the last 4, the value would be even higher.

A few years ago M13's were the cat's meow and getting up to $300.  Now you see them in the $50 range frequently and even a NIB that was just over $100.

M15's were going for very high prices, then quite a few went for $500 and below (with keypad even!), now they're back up high again.

NIB Mini price increase since August:
Sold for $172
Sold for $212
Sold for $255
Sold for $265
Sold for $300

One thing is for sure, they are very sought after.  It will be interesting to see what happens to their value when the current seller runs out.

Now that winter is here, more people will be indoors buying keyboards so that could add to their value as well.
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« Reply #76 on: Sun, 21 November 2010, 12:39:57 »
jwj1219 is legit.  He is definitely the bidder he claims to be, because I was the one who contacted him on ebay to see what he was doing with the minis.

Which is more logical: An elaborate conspiracy to drive up the price of space savers, or some guy who builds steampunk keyboards for clients.

PS: I am trying this on one of my 95$ terminal minis.
BS: 5 Space Savers  ||  9 42H  ||  10 1391401 or similar  ||  1x 1390131  || AT&T 305b  ||  Dell Model M
Cherry: Leopold FC200RC/AB  ||  3 Ducky 1087  ||  PLU ML87 ||  Cherry G80-8113LUVEU-2  browns
Alps: Filco Zero Tenkeyless (fukka)  ||  ABS M1  ||  3x Dell AT101w  ||  Ancer KF-191  ||  6 Vivanco Compact
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« Reply #77 on: Sun, 21 November 2010, 12:50:57 »
The Black M13's were really sought after before I got into mechanical keyboards.  I read a few articles on mechanicals and they mentioned the rarity of black M13's, which may have contributed to the price spikes.

Maybe it was just the timing of when I looked for them but they seemed to be very expensive every time I checked and the prices routinely reached high 200's.
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« Reply #78 on: Sun, 21 November 2010, 12:54:00 »
Wrong again, Kishy, on all counts. But think what you like. I'm not new to geekhack, either, as I said. I just had to set up a new account to reply to this nonsense. So tell me, if it's not possible to find out the identity of bidders, how did someone on this forum find my i.d.? Sorry, that's actually a rhetorical question, all anyone has to do is check the feedback ratings to see who bought something, then you can email the bidders. Or just ask the seller who's buying them - no, I don't know the seller. In case no one noticed, I didn't buy this last mini. For those who don't believe the prices these things are bringing overseas, try selling one there. So once again, Kishy, I have to ask, does it hurt being wrong ALL the time?
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« Reply #79 on: Sun, 21 November 2010, 13:01:28 »
Quote from: ripster;250113
Welcome To Geekhack!

I think "Welcome back to Geekhack" is more appropriate, but who was this masked lone-geeker ?
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« Reply #80 on: Sun, 21 November 2010, 13:04:51 »
Wrong all the time is pretty harsh and untrue as Kishy has made a great deal of knowledgeable contributions.  Why not pleasantly state facts rather than making it personal?  (Or is there more personal history here than I'm aware of?  Maybe I don't have the facts.)

Anyway, so are you steampunking these?  I'd love to see pics.

I've bought some old typewriters but can't bring myself to destroy them to do a steampunk mod. I end up shining up the typewriters and displaying them in my house instead.  I recently got an early 30's Royal that is absolutely stunning.  :)
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« Reply #81 on: Sun, 21 November 2010, 13:10:06 »
I already clarified that I misunderstood the term "shill" and happily ate my own words.

EDIT: I also stated that I have had conversations with the seller and didn't think he was in on anything like that so :p
« Last Edit: Sun, 21 November 2010, 13:13:31 by didjamatic »
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« Reply #82 on: Sun, 21 November 2010, 13:10:09 »
Quote from: ripster;250179
It's against forum rules to reveal the identity of a Geekhacker.

Curiosity killed the monkey, never expected anyone to reveal anything. I am only guilty of being having my curiosity stirred by self revelation.
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« Reply #83 on: Sun, 21 November 2010, 13:16:10 »
Let's move on and see a steampunk mini!
BS: 5 Space Savers  ||  9 42H  ||  10 1391401 or similar  ||  1x 1390131  || AT&T 305b  ||  Dell Model M
Cherry: Leopold FC200RC/AB  ||  3 Ducky 1087  ||  PLU ML87 ||  Cherry G80-8113LUVEU-2  browns
Alps: Filco Zero Tenkeyless (fukka)  ||  ABS M1  ||  3x Dell AT101w  ||  Ancer KF-191  ||  6 Vivanco Compact
Misc: NMB RT6855T+  ||  NMB RT101 Space Invader  ||  Dell Quietkey  ||  Ge Fanuc Industrial Metal

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« Reply #84 on: Sun, 21 November 2010, 13:20:19 »
Quote from: MissileMike;250187
a steampunk mini!


+1!

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« Reply #85 on: Sun, 21 November 2010, 13:20:30 »
Agreed!
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« Reply #86 on: Sun, 21 November 2010, 13:23:29 »
Yes and also more info on how to sell these NIBs to Japan. :madgrin:
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« Reply #87 on: Sun, 21 November 2010, 13:41:05 »
Quote from: ripster;250179
It's against forum rules to reveal the identity of a Geekhacker.

So revealing that ripster is really the North American Cherry keyboard distributor would be tacky? or just BS?

+1 to see more steampunks. I made one about three years ago and foolishly sold it before becoming a Geekhack member, where the gloating rights would gain rep +1.
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« Reply #88 on: Sun, 21 November 2010, 13:47:48 »
Quote from: ricercar;250193
So revealing that ripster is really the North American Cherry keyboard distributor would be tacky?

The truth is revealed?

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« Reply #89 on: Sun, 21 November 2010, 13:56:58 »
Ok, maybe Kishy isn't wrong ALL the time, but he's certainly been wrong about me - ALL the time. No, I did not appreciate my eBay i.d. being outed on this site - that shouldn't happen. It's that kind of thing that made me drop out of Geekhack the last time. Well, that and being told, when I had a Vista question, that I should go learn about computers before asking questions on a computer forum. Considering I learned how to program computers back in the days of Fortran and Cobol, that sort of wrankled me.

Selling overseas is a lot of fun... That's sarcasm, the NAFTA agreement stuff you have to go through is a pain, as are all the duty forms you have to fill out for each shipment. I have my business set up for overseas sales, but I dread it every time I receive an order. It may be possible to sell through eBay, but I don't know how well that goes.

I had a supplier in the Philadelphia area who had about 2 dozen minis that were NIB, or NOS to us older hackers (New Old Stock), and I bought them one at a time from him when he set up at a local trade fair. He literally had a Japanese buyer at one of the fairs approach him and agreed to take all his NIB keyboards for between $750 and $950 each, and he had minis, M-13s, M-15s, 401s, and who knows what else. So much for my supplier...

I do three things with the minis. First; I prefer them for my office computers - space is always at a premium on my desks. Second; I adapt the minis to old computerized engraving machines. Take them out of the case and they're close to an exact fit for the old machines, and they plug right in since the machines used similar keyboards. Third; about 15 years ago I used to make what I called Victorian keyboards from the minis - wood frames, leather backing, and engraved brass key caps. I think it's been about 10 years since I made one, but I have a customer who recently ordered 4, if I still made them, so I am. Personally, I like Datamancer's keyboards much better (and I've ordered one of his for myself). If people want to see a photo of them, I'll be happy to post one when they're done.

I am thinking about using old typewriter keycaps for the keys, but I also have a friend and part-time employee who makes jewelry from them - why I buy those. Those bracelets sell really well at flea markets. Who knew?