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Offline VTX_ENGINE

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[IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« on: Mon, 21 October 2024, 05:54:45 »
DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE






INTRO

VTX Engine have different departments, the ones you already know like TKD and VERTEX, but there are more coming soon, which are known as INTRO and VTX/SEL (Vertex selection) INTRO is going to bring more niche layouts at a budget price with VTX quality (100%, AT and 40%), aswell as other stuff that you will like for sure (DCS, switches...)

This time, we are going to show you our first keycap project, DCS INTRO,where we seek to get the best possible DCS prices in order to allow as many people as possible to try this wonderful key profile.

We will start with DCS INTRO BEIGE and DCS INTRO WOB

GB DATE AND PRICING

1 Nov-15 Nov

Price:69$

Price may vary depending on region

SPECIFICATIONS

Manufacturer: Signature Plastics
Material: Doubleshot ABS
Profile: DCS
Legends: Gorton
Number of kits: 2

KITTING

Renders made by MiKeyDigit






KEYBOARD RENDERS

Pangea Mini - Bowl









Intro AT- VTX Engine









VENDORS

United States: Bowl
Europe: DeltaKeyCo
China: NEXT
United Kingdom: Prototypist
South East Asia: Pantheonkeys
Korea: Swagkeys
Oceania: Keebz&Cables
Vietnam: Soigear
Canada: Minokeys

If you are an interested vendor, contact our international manager via discord: manukbs



« Last Edit: Fri, 01 November 2024, 12:15:31 by VTX_ENGINE »

Offline DivinaPapaya

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 21 October 2024, 05:57:15 »
Certified banger. Pole

Offline Jurapikahhh

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 21 October 2024, 05:58:44 »
Been waiting for this. Count me in.

Offline ggggggg

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 21 October 2024, 05:59:24 »
Do this but add decent 40s kits alongside and I'll never have to buy another keycap set again.

Unrelated, but petition to replace the uggo win key with an os-agnostic text mod.

Offline VTX_ENGINE

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 21 October 2024, 06:01:18 »
Do this but add decent 40s kits alongside and I'll never have to buy another keycap set again.

Unrelated, but petition to replace the uggo win key with an os-agnostic text mod.

This is a test to check the true interest of DCS if it's priced pretty cheap, if we recived a good feedback from the community, we will repeat this method with more colors and kittings.

Offline scorcher36

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 21 October 2024, 06:01:33 »
Yes, we want good quality caps to be affordable. Definitely in for both kits. I hope GMK and KKB will be able to follow the same footsteps. Geon made some kiting that are affordable, but this is the best kit I have seen for the value.  :thumb:

Offline DirtyGingy

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 21 October 2024, 06:12:19 »
Praise be to gorton

Offline marcowhatever

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 21 October 2024, 06:14:44 »
It would be nice to see front print nav, window keys and r3 control

Offline mul7i

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 21 October 2024, 06:20:36 »
dcs so goated, gorton so goated, maybe consider addon kits (extra support in general, windowed keys, 6u spacebar) after this run?

Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 21 October 2024, 06:43:49 »
You can count me in for both. This is a no-brainer for the price



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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 21 October 2024, 07:46:09 »
imagine skipping this

Offline mcmcmc

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 21 October 2024, 07:47:57 »
v good price  :thumb:

i think you missed mod pipe in beige kit.

Offline VTX_ENGINE

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #12 on: Mon, 21 October 2024, 08:02:47 »
v good price  :thumb:

i think you missed mod pipe in beige kit.

Yes we will add it soon and update the image!

Offline ggggggg

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #13 on: Mon, 21 October 2024, 08:18:08 »
Do this but add decent 40s kits alongside and I'll never have to buy another keycap set again.

Unrelated, but petition to replace the uggo win key with an os-agnostic text mod.

This is a test to check the true interest of DCS if it's priced pretty cheap, if we recived a good feedback from the community, we will repeat this method with more colors and kittings.

To play the devil's advocate:
  • if you ran this Intro kit as is, and then decide to run, say, a 40s extension kit down the line you limit your pool of potential buyers to those that got in on the original buy.
  • if you ran this Intro kit concurrently with extension kits you would be able to get more people on board from the get-go. This comes at the cost of complicating fulfiment of course.
I'm not sure if the install base of the 2022 WoB run is big enough to boost an extension kit run. Either way, my 2 cents.

Offline dskeeb

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #14 on: Mon, 21 October 2024, 08:24:03 »
In my view, testing for monetary value and popularity of DCS, as a profile, on a limited base kit would yield incorrect data.

For a SP offering, inherently being expensive, the offered kits are very reasonable value indeed but the base kit is somewhat limiting even for ANSI users alone. So, a true monetary value cannot be tested against only a limited portion of the market that you are trying to test.

Popularity means when the majority agree. To properly test if DCS is a popular profile or not then either the base kit must be larger or supplementary kits should be privided at the same reasonable price. For instance, having the missing five keys for ISO UK layout support included to the base kit would have added far more participants to the experiment.

While I really appreciate the effort, I, and others like me, cannot make a purchase so the experiment yield a precise data that SP is after.

I have never heard anything negative about DCS Profile for typing on but heard so many times how expensive DCS kits are, hence unreachable to own a set or two. No experiment is needed, just drop the price and provide descent colorways in the kits people want and we would purchase them.

Offline VTX_ENGINE

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #15 on: Mon, 21 October 2024, 08:44:51 »
Do this but add decent 40s kits alongside and I'll never have to buy another keycap set again.

Unrelated, but petition to replace the uggo win key with an os-agnostic text mod.

This is a test to check the true interest of DCS if it's priced pretty cheap, if we recived a good feedback from the community, we will repeat this method with more colors and kittings.

To play the devil's advocate:
  • if you ran this Intro kit as is, and then decide to run, say, a 40s extension kit down the line you limit your pool of potential buyers to those that got in on the original buy.
  • if you ran this Intro kit concurrently with extension kits you would be able to get more people on board from the get-go. This comes at the cost of complicating fulfiment of course.
I'm not sure if the install base of the 2022 WoB run is big enough to boost an extension kit run. Either way, my 2 cents.

I totally understand your point but we are willing to reduce (even more) our profit for next runs if that means to have those covered, but right now with the high MoQ that we are doing, we prefer to keep it that way for the first attempt

Offline VTX_ENGINE

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #16 on: Mon, 21 October 2024, 08:47:45 »
In my view, testing for monetary value and popularity of DCS, as a profile, on a limited base kit would yield incorrect data.

For a SP offering, inherently being expensive, the offered kits are very reasonable value indeed but the base kit is somewhat limiting even for ANSI users alone. So, a true monetary value cannot be tested against only a limited portion of the market that you are trying to test.

Popularity means when the majority agree. To properly test if DCS is a popular profile or not then either the base kit must be larger or supplementary kits should be privided at the same reasonable price. For instance, having the missing five keys for ISO UK layout support included to the base kit would have added far more participants to the experiment.

While I really appreciate the effort, I, and others like me, cannot make a purchase so the experiment yield a precise data that SP is after.

I have never heard anything negative about DCS Profile for typing on but heard so many times how expensive DCS kits are, hence unreachable to own a set or two. No experiment is needed, just drop the price and provide descent colorways in the kits people want and we would purchase them.

Forgot to mention above, all the orders from Prototypist will include a ISO-UK kit for free, thanks as always to the goat Jae

Offline chimichanguh

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #17 on: Mon, 21 October 2024, 09:27:29 »
Sounds like playing it safe since this is the first time I have heard of VTX Engine doing IC for a DCS set which is understandable.

Offline dskeeb

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #18 on: Mon, 21 October 2024, 09:41:37 »
In my view, testing for monetary value and popularity of DCS, as a profile, on a limited base kit would yield incorrect data.

For a SP offering, inherently being expensive, the offered kits are very reasonable value indeed but the base kit is somewhat limiting even for ANSI users alone. So, a true monetary value cannot be tested against only a limited portion of the market that you are trying to test.

Popularity means when the majority agree. To properly test if DCS is a popular profile or not then either the base kit must be larger or supplementary kits should be privided at the same reasonable price. For instance, having the missing five keys for ISO UK layout support included to the base kit would have added far more participants to the experiment.

While I really appreciate the effort, I, and others like me, cannot make a purchase so the experiment yield a precise data that SP is after.

I have never heard anything negative about DCS Profile for typing on but heard so many times how expensive DCS kits are, hence unreachable to own a set or two. No experiment is needed, just drop the price and provide descent colorways in the kits people want and we would purchase them.

Forgot to mention above, all the orders from Prototypist will include a ISO-UK kit for free, thanks as always to the goat Jae

Thank you for the imperative info. Pleased to report DCS Beige Intro will be ordered, from ProtoTypist, as my first ever DCS profile set.

How thick the keycaps will be please?

Offline anson42

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #19 on: Mon, 21 October 2024, 09:48:44 »
Unrelated, but petition to replace the uggo win key with an os-agnostic text mod.

Alas, even with the great pricing I'm not willing to put Win keys on my keyboard. These two sets are instant cop if those 4 keys were OS agnostic. Code, Super, Sys, anything but Windows-themed legends. There aren't enough keys in the kitting to make for suitable replacements.

Granted, I could install the sets onto one or two WKL boards that I have...

Offline Jampot_298

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #20 on: Mon, 21 October 2024, 09:50:05 »
any other kits? extension? uk iso? xt? maybe icon mods?

Offline LavenderB

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #21 on: Mon, 21 October 2024, 11:35:21 »
Very nice :thumb:
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Offline scorcher36

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #22 on: Mon, 21 October 2024, 11:49:23 »
Okay I cannot unsee the off-center windows key. Pls do something about it or remove it completely.

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #23 on: Mon, 21 October 2024, 12:03:22 »
Classic dcs colorways at a great price. All it takes to make me happy :thumb:
« Last Edit: Tue, 22 October 2024, 03:50:14 by LMarci »

Offline dskeeb

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #24 on: Mon, 21 October 2024, 12:14:36 »
any other kits? extension? uk iso? xt? maybe icon mods?

If you place your order with ProtoTypist, you will get ISO UK keys (kit) for free. A practice ProtoTypist has done in the past for the community.

Offline HubertThemad

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #25 on: Mon, 21 October 2024, 12:38:52 »
Beigeeeeeeee (and WoB)  :thumb: Good pricing! GLWIC

Offline quaks

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #26 on: Mon, 21 October 2024, 14:28:31 »
Okay I cannot unsee the off-center windows key. Pls do something about it or remove it completely.

oh god, why have you done this to me?

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #27 on: Mon, 21 October 2024, 14:40:47 »
who the **** is bowl

Offline Jurapikahhh

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #28 on: Mon, 21 October 2024, 14:45:14 »
Okay I cannot unsee the off-center windows key. Pls do something about it or remove it completely.

I respectfully disagree. The alignment is consistent, and to suggest it is a glaring issue wholly inaccurate.
« Last Edit: Tue, 22 October 2024, 05:41:10 by Jurapikahhh »

Offline NoWrinkles

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #29 on: Mon, 21 October 2024, 18:13:58 »
Love it, Beige and WoB are staples and price is good. Count me in.

Looking forward to what else INTRO has to offer down the road.

GLWIC!

Offline bowlkeyboards

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #30 on: Mon, 21 October 2024, 18:22:13 »

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #31 on: Mon, 21 October 2024, 22:37:22 »
hey are these guys on mktrust.org i hear that's a great place to vet my vendors
i'm zhol

Offline Damage

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #32 on: Mon, 21 October 2024, 23:05:29 »
Interesting. Please consider adding Alice/split support in the base kit (a second B plus short bars.) Thanks!

Offline Dingo-07

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #33 on: Mon, 21 October 2024, 23:15:03 »
I'm looking forward to this, happy that it can do most conventional boards of 60s and above. Hoping that there are some extension kits that can be considered for some of the folks who make other layouts their home.

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #34 on: Mon, 21 October 2024, 23:25:14 »
Very stoked to see more DCS, especially at this price. Wanna echo concerns about US vendor though.

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #35 on: Tue, 22 October 2024, 01:46:16 »
I buy both.

Offline mul7i

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #36 on: Tue, 22 October 2024, 02:10:46 »
i said it in discord and i'll say it again here, please dont take away the icon winkeys, its one of the defining keys that got me wanting this set

Offline mul7i

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #37 on: Tue, 22 October 2024, 02:15:27 »
Interesting. Please consider adding Alice/split support in the base kit (a second B plus short bars.) Thanks!

DCS mini bars are blank shift keys, better off getting color matched mini bars from other manufacturers

Offline Gemmmmmmmmmmmmmy

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #38 on: Tue, 22 October 2024, 03:01:33 »
Life seems so much smaller
Swim to the moon

Offline Jurapikahhh

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #39 on: Tue, 22 October 2024, 05:37:44 »
i said it in discord and i'll say it again here, please dont take away the icon winkeys, its one of the defining keys that got me wanting this set

I second this.

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #40 on: Tue, 22 October 2024, 07:11:26 »
To all winkey haters, join the discord and vote.

Offline bowlkeyboards

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #41 on: Tue, 22 October 2024, 07:46:01 »
who the **** is bowl

who the **** is bowl

hey are these guys on mktrust.org i hear that's a great place to vet my vendors

Very stoked to see more DCS, especially at this price. Wanna echo concerns about US vendor though.

Hello everyone, your skepticism is totally fair, I just wanted to come here and say that I know quite a lot of people don't know who I am, but I've been around the hobby a lot for the past few years running my own designs and designing keyboards for other people/vendors and branching out to vendoring other projects in addition to my own is the direction I want to head to bring more projects to the community. To be fully transparent, VTX Engine and I have an excellent working relationship as I went to visit their studio in China this past august and we discussed working together in the future so me vendoring these keycaps is a product of that working relationship. I've previously fulfilled 5 public keyboard GBs and I think anyone that has ordered a keyboard fulfilled by me can vouch for the communication and transparency throughout the GB, but if you still aren't comfortable feel free to wait for extras to purchase it Instock. I'm not doing fulfillment alone and have ample space for storage/fulfillment as well so larger projects like this are not overwhelming  :D If you have any questions feel free to discuss them with me on discord or in email!  :thumb:

who the **** is bowl

Hello I am bowl

Hi bowl  :)

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Offline linearscringe

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #42 on: Tue, 22 October 2024, 08:06:21 »
tbh while i understand the goal of this set and the effort put into keeping costs low, I'm not willing to pay for it without concrete plans to extend the kitting. Maybe if you coordinated with Carter or someone to promote a child kits gb along side this. But I'm not going to sit around for 6 years waiting for a couple 1.5u super keys planned to run soon(tm)

Offline scorcher36

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #43 on: Tue, 22 October 2024, 15:06:17 »
Okay I cannot unsee the off-center windows key. Pls do something about it or remove it completely.

I respectfully disagree. The alignment is consistent, and to suggest it is a glaring issue wholly inaccurate.

I wasn't specific so it's on me. Yes all the alignment are consistent but winkey seems to stand out like a sore thumb. The kit will look clean with super and people are neutral about super. This is suppose to be low price high moq to satisfy as many users as possible. Thus it feels forced. Either a bigger base kit or push it to the novelties or super is what I would like to see. There is a reason why every beige kit I have seen recently don't do this and for a good reason. Winkey support down the line is more reasonable ask then a super kit. Asking winkey for a kit like this feels selfish. Again whatever the outcome. For the price is a great set.

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #44 on: Tue, 22 October 2024, 16:40:12 »
Make DCS great again! :p Awesome work on getting the price down, at this price point I'll be grabbing both sets for sure. The only thing beyond the current kitting I'd like to see is a small child kit offering an extra B & mini space bars for Alice layout.

Offline Rico

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #45 on: Tue, 22 October 2024, 16:57:03 »
The pricing is unreal  :eek:

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #46 on: Wed, 23 October 2024, 00:22:27 »
next intro,wyse pce tsangan :llama:
« Last Edit: Wed, 23 October 2024, 10:41:50 by dsanda52 »

Offline KenGuru

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #47 on: Wed, 23 October 2024, 06:09:30 »
Love this, great job! Even though I don’t love the winkey personally, I think the kitting is pretty good and the price is amazing. Definitely picking this up!

Offline Nuap

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #48 on: Wed, 23 October 2024, 06:24:36 »
Excellent price and I am really happy you're making an entry into DCS attainable for every hobbyist - with that in mind I support the set and think it's an excellent idea.


I would however encourage you to run some child kits with lower MOQ (and make it clear that MOQ is required for the kit to be produced). It'd be great if I could buy a few sets of each to cover a few of my boards but without at least an R3 control I just can't use this. People who have boards that aren't strictly ANSI TKL or 100% are used to paying at least $120 USD if not more for a double shot ABS base kit from GMK or SP, so if you can offer a $70 base kit, why not offer a child kit for $30-$50 that covers significantly more layouts?

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Re: [IC] DCS INTRO WOB AND BEIGE
« Reply #49 on: Wed, 23 October 2024, 08:23:21 »
Great price, will allow a lot of people to try dcs and learn cherry is superior