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Offline Guuuf

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Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
« Reply #50 on: Fri, 30 May 2025, 15:58:37 »
Fair point on the 1.5u Super keys, I’ve already got a few myself. But a stepped Super to match the stepped Alt/Ctrl in the kit? That would totally seal the deal for me. Would love to see it, but I’m in either way!

I would also appreciate if stepped super keys are added. My typical bottom row is:
Hhkb ctrl
[super (win)] - [blocker] - [alt] - [space] - [angry alt] - [blocker] - [super (fn)]

But i also get that it might not be feasible since the majority uses ctrl or caps lock.

Your layout is chaotic good, respect!
I’ll keep flying the flag for stepped Super, even if the vintage gods never intended it.  ;D


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Offline Dingo_Seven

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Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
« Reply #51 on: Sat, 31 May 2025, 13:07:21 »
Lookin good! I thneed me some stepped CTRL, nipple keys, and snacc pacc.

Offline mcmcmc

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Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
« Reply #52 on: Thu, 05 June 2025, 08:25:51 »
update:
added complete list of vendors
changed skidata accented geekhack to normal colored

edit: added wob 2000s as well
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Offline JucheCatgirlTS

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Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
« Reply #53 on: Tue, 15 July 2025, 19:06:40 »
absolutely based as hell

in for all kits :3

Offline mcmcmc

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Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
« Reply #54 on: Tue, 29 July 2025, 00:04:13 »
i got some news on stepped keys, but waiting for 10u. i’ll share them when i heard back.

Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
« Reply #55 on: Mon, 18 August 2025, 21:33:50 »
Do we have an estimated month for when this GB starts yet?

Offline mcmcmc

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Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
« Reply #56 on: Tue, 19 August 2025, 00:46:24 »
Do we have an estimated month for when this GB starts yet?

as soon as i hear back from gmk, i will be able to give you a date. currently i got nothing.

Offline Mikhail

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Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
« Reply #57 on: Tue, 19 August 2025, 02:30:09 »
Jeez, the GMK… They told “we need brand new molds” but their new ansi stabbed BAEs contains old vertical stab traces and even “holes” for vertical stab on the south side of inner wall >:D >:D >:D

Offline maelkesnot

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Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
« Reply #58 on: Tue, 02 September 2025, 11:05:18 »
No plans for Dolch 2000's I presume?

Offline mcmcmc

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Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
« Reply #59 on: Wed, 03 September 2025, 05:18:21 »
No plans for Dolch 2000's I presume?

currently not planned.

Offline mcmcmc

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Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
« Reply #60 on: Wed, 10 September 2025, 02:34:55 »
Earlier Update
Where we’re at right now
    • We need a fresh render with all the latest changes.
    • After that, we’ll send everything back to GMK for a new quote.
    • Depending on the price they give us, we might have to cut some molds/keys.

Kit changes
    • Banana kit: No more 10u. Stepped caps are now R4 and no LED.
    • 2000s kit: No R5 — those keys are now R4. S1–S12 caps will be UV top + UV front.

Current Update from CK:
    1.Banana kit – The adjustments that were shared earlier are final and will remain as they are.
    2.S keys – These will be done with UV printing, not doubleshot.
    3.R5 discussion (Banana + 2000s kits) – From CK conversion with GMK, they said that creating a new R5 mold would be extremely expensive. GMK are still using the original molds due to cost.

However, I asked if there’s a workaround: instead of a new mold, could we add R5 in the 2000s kit using UV print? This would let us offer the layout without going through the huge cost of new tooling.

The poll is up in my discord, please go vote. Thanks!

Offline Gemmmmmmmmmmmmmy

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Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
« Reply #61 on: Wed, 10 September 2025, 03:23:56 »
Earlier Update
Where we’re at right now
    • We need a fresh render with all the latest changes.
    • After that, we’ll send everything back to GMK for a new quote.
    • Depending on the price they give us, we might have to cut some molds/keys.

Kit changes
    • Banana kit: No more 10u. Stepped caps are now R4 and no LED.
    • 2000s kit: No R5 — those keys are now R4. S1–S12 caps will be UV top + UV front.

Current Update from CK:
    1.Banana kit  :( :( :(– The adjustments that were shared earlier are final and will remain as they are.
    2.S keys – These will be done with UV printing, not doubleshot.
    3.R5 discussion (Banana + 2000s kits) – From CK conversion with GMK, they said that creating a new R5 mold would be extremely expensive. GMK are still using the original molds due to cost.

However, I asked if there’s a workaround: instead of a new mold, could we add R5 in the 2000s kit using UV print? This would let us offer the layout without going through the huge cost of new tooling.

The poll is up in my discord, please go vote. Thanks!

noooooooooo not the 10u  :(
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Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
« Reply #62 on: Thu, 11 September 2025, 13:56:49 »
Sad to see both the Vintage Banana 10U space and R5s go. For me, the 10U space was the primary draw of this gb, closely followed by the R5 stepped keycaps. Even so, best of luck and thanks for your work.

Offline meowoofun

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Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
« Reply #63 on: Thu, 11 September 2025, 20:12:45 »
10u was worth a try, maybe one day.

Offline Mikhail

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Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
« Reply #64 on: Thu, 11 September 2025, 23:23:33 »
Can we switch to keykobo for this set?

Offline mcmcmc

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Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
« Reply #65 on: Fri, 12 September 2025, 14:48:57 »
Sad to see both the Vintage Banana 10U space and R5s go. For me, the 10U space was the primary draw of this gb, closely followed by the R5 stepped keycaps. Even so, best of luck and thanks for your work.
Unfortunate, but it has to be done :(

10u was worth a try, maybe one day.
:fingerscrossed

Can we switch to keykobo for this set?
nope, my intention was to run this set with GMK. although we had to cut some stuff out, i still feel like GMK is the manu for this project.

Offline TjarleN

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Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
« Reply #66 on: Sun, 14 September 2025, 16:16:54 »
It is a bummer that the stepped caps wont be r5… a lot of gmk beige gbs were specifically run with r5 and even though r4 can be picked up directly from gmks shop now I plan on using r5 on my boards and i am probably not the only one.

Might still pick up a set but most likely wont use those keys if run in r4.

Offline mcmcmc

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Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - 10U Spacebars & Stepped Bottom Row
« Reply #67 on: Mon, 15 September 2025, 06:05:43 »
It is a bummer that the stepped caps wont be r5… a lot of gmk beige gbs were specifically run with r5 and even though r4 can be picked up directly from gmks shop now I plan on using r5 on my boards and i am probably not the only one.

Might still pick up a set but most likely wont use those keys if run in r4.

Yea i’m also one of the ppl plan on using this on r5, but it is what it is. im glad to hear that you may still support this project. <3

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Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - Stepped Bottom Row!
« Reply #68 on: Tue, 16 September 2025, 22:03:49 »
Any desire to get the M keys from the CYL OG kit? With the 21XX just having finished GB, I'm sure you'd get tons of orders for them since most of those sets from the last CYL OG GB are out of stock.


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Offline mcmcmc

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Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - Stepped Bottom Row!
« Reply #69 on: Wed, 17 September 2025, 02:10:22 »
Any desire to get the M keys from the CYL OG kit? With the 21XX just having finished GB, I'm sure you'd get tons of orders for them since most of those sets from the last CYL OG GB are out of stock.


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Probably no, I think that space is already covered and Icon Beige already offers something similar.

Offline BossKeebs

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Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - Stepped Bottom Row!
« Reply #70 on: Sun, 28 September 2025, 04:38:54 »
I am glad that keyboard community history is still represented today.

Offline Sneaky_roomba

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Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - Stepped Bottom Row!
« Reply #71 on: Tue, 30 September 2025, 21:58:07 »
I have to be honest it's really dissappointing how much this set keeps getting pared back from the ambitions of the IC. Losing 10u, R5, windowed keys, and now UV print for all those S keys...it just doesn't have the same instant appeal.

I thougt the major appeal of this set lay in all the new molds it would unlock for future projects in the community, particularly the development of a GMK 10u mold. The bannana bar is such a neat visuaul option for designers to incorporate into their keysets and boards, but we don't see more of it because the gold-standard keycap manu can't make it anymore. CK are an experienced vendor, clearly fans of vintage stuff, and have a decent amount of financial weight to throw behind a project like this, so I assumed you all were going into this with at least some rough idea about what the cost would be for tooling and a shared understanding about why the initial reception to this was so overhwhelmingly positive.

Please forgive me if I sound totally foolish. I just led myself into thinking the real pitch with this project was that CK and GMK were looking to invest in some cool new tooling as a capital expenditure to expand what designers can make even after this particular set runs. Based on the multiple rounds of back-and-forth betwen the stakeholders here, though, it seems that they are specifically interested in having this set stand on its own commercially.

I love novelty keys and vintage kit as much as the next guy, but I figured it would be obvious to everyone at the table for this project that a set like this as originally proposed would never, ever be popular enough to justify multiple major tooling investments on its own. So, now this all feels like a bait & switch. Like, if CK needed this to be commercially viable without them eating what can only be tens of thousands in tooling cost, is this not basically months of time wasted on quotes that were bound to be overbudget?

Offline KOBO ISSHI

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Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - Stepped Bottom Row!
« Reply #72 on: Thu, 02 October 2025, 03:57:33 »
That R3 stepped control is different level. Send this to GB with haste.

Offline mcmcmc

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Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - Stepped Bottom Row!
« Reply #73 on: Sat, 11 October 2025, 05:47:26 »
we got da quotes!

Offline TjarleN

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Re: [IC] GMK CYL Vintage Keys - Stepped Bottom Row!
« Reply #74 on: Mon, 13 October 2025, 10:14:07 »
Is dimple numpad-5 something to be considered?

Edit: Just saw that icon beige is supposed to run with dimple 5, so I am personally fine without it being added here :D
« Last Edit: Mon, 13 October 2025, 10:18:53 by TjarleN »