Is a German layout bearable for someone use to US ANSI ?

[Moogle Stiltzkin]

Not sure if i've asked this, but does anyone else who not speak German, but uses a German layout keyboard find it tolerable ?

The reason i ask is that seems there lots of vintage keyboards and they are all in the German layout.

So before i plump down some moolahs on one, i would like to know other peoples experiences with it.



The French Azerty to me is plain evil, that i already know. But what about the German layout ?



Also is it possible to replace the keycaps with English ones, and convert it to US ansi ? or is that not possible ?

[itlnstln]

Your command of the English language is such that I, personally, don't think any keyboard layout will affect you.

[keyboardlover]

Moogle + moolah = "mooglah"

[Soarer]

Swapping keycaps gets you most of the way there. Still ISO enter and small left shift... depends how you find those. I like them.

[sixty]

Personally I can hotswap between both of them. I use ANSI US 80% of the time, but I have no issues with the European Enter and small shift either. Only thing I really miss is my wide | \ key.

[sixty]

Oh, also I should mention that I have long forgotten how to actually type on the German layout. So when I say hotswap, I mean I use a German keyboard and its set to US QWERTY anyway, since I touch type. The physical layout should be no problem to adjust to.

[Moogle Stiltzkin]

@soarer

So basically everything is us ansi, but enter remains ISO L shaped, and small left shift ?

Yeah i could live with that :}




@sixty

The thing is i just stick to qwerty since i'm very used to it. I wouldn't enjoy switching between us and german layout :/

[Soarer]

The brackets are so misleading... on 8,9 vs 9,0.

Otherwise I can ignore the markings, but that one always makes me pause!

[7bit]

Not sure if i've asked this, but does anyone else who not speak German, but uses a German layout keyboard find it tolerable ?

The reason i ask is that seems there lots of vintage keyboards and they are all in the German layout.

So before i plump down some moolahs on one, i would like to know other peoples experiences with it.

The French Azerty to me is plain evil, that i already know. But what about the German layout ?

I typed a lot on German-layout keyboards with the system set up to US-layout. It is a bit tricky with those charakter at the number-row, if you look at it and that J-shape enter in the place of \|.

You can swapp all the keys with 6bit's set, and except for enter you get quite a good US-ANSI-layout.

[calavera]

When I bought a cherry keyboard with german layout a long long time ago, I remember that the Z and Y keys were swapped.

[bugfix]

When I bought a cherry keyboard with german layout a long long time ago, I remember that the Z and Y keys were swapped.

That's why it's called QWERTZ.

[itlnstln]

My watch is qwertz-driven.

[bugfix]

Jackdaws love my big sphinx of qwertz.

[itlnstln]

I see your qwertz is bigger than mine.

[Moogle Stiltzkin]

Ok seems it's doable using Soarer's method. Small left shift and big shaped L but to me that hardly seems a problem at all.

If you want to convert, there is 7bit's method but seems to be a lot of modding involved :/

Requirement: sixty's us ansi doubleshot set



Anyway sadly the problem is the pricing :/ Sadly it isn't economically viable for me at this point. Can be done but it's out of my budget.


And just the other day i saw a G80-1000 in US ansi floating around, but it got sold :{

[Moogle Stiltzkin]

Noticed another thing.






You see where the left shift is, there is this >< key. So that will be a dead key ?

So when i set win7 to use US ANSI, what does that <> key there do exactly ?


*update


bottom left and the keys near to the enter is slightly ****ed :/ so i gave up on the idea.

Could probably work 7bit's way but i'm not gonna do hardcore modding :{

[woody]

So when i set win7 to use US ANSI, what does that <> key there do exactly ?

Probably pipe/backslash, but not sure and too lazy to try. Could well be <>.